From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 2:23 pm Subject: re: Pinhas interview........ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'willfred' ummm, errrrr.................that Pinhas interview also showed-up in Audion no.22, 1992+ADs- in its entirety. there was an Earthstar album that was released on a tiny label before the three on Sky records. I do not know the title. Klaus Schulze produced the second Earthstar album, French Skyline. The other two Earthstar albums on Sky are, Atomkraft ? Nein Danke and Humans Only. The main guy behind Earthstar was Craig Wuest, I believe. As far as I know, the Earthstar albums were not re-released on cd, except for one track on a Sky cd sampler that came out in the eighties. According to the Heldon/Pinhas homepage there will be a new Heldon album out this year and three other cds of Pinhas collaborations. bill2 n.p.....Richard Pinhas - De l' Un et Du Mutiple From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 11:59 am Subject: Re: mpeg3 fileas ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes Michael Fox wrote: >Hi all, >Got a friend fixed up with winamp and he's having fun. He's looking for >some Pink Floyd, and other, mpeg3 files. Anyone know where I can point him >to such things? There's always lots of mpeg3 files at the usenet newsgroup alt.binaries.sounds.mp3 I've seen lately a few Pink Floyd files there, including from PF b**ts. Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 2:15 pm Subject: Richard Pinhas & Heldon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'FREDERIC YARGUI' Hi, everybody, and especially Mr Steven Feldman! I recognized parts of the RP interview you quoted yesterday. I read an excerpt once in CRYSTAL INFO, a french information bulletin from the association CRYSTAL LAKE. There is an excerpt in the 'Autumn 1992' issue of this magazine/fanzine... Can you please tell me if your quotation is part or entire interview, and where did it come from? You say that RP is german, I always thought he was french. And for those who already know RP, note that he released the following albums since 1992: CYBORG SALLY, with John Livengood (1994) DE L'UN ET DU MULTIPLE, featuring Duncan Nilsson (1996) RHIZOSPHERE & LIVE AT BOBINO, PARIS (1982) released 1994 this latest release includes the whole RHIZOSPHERE album (5 tracks) and the following tracks: -6- Livre 5 : L'ethique (8:39) -7- Toward Belfast (6:41) -8- Polywaves Intermed (2:10) -9- Last Coda from The Western Trail (15:15) -10- 1992 : Iceland : The Fall (4:37) Another question : the tracks of 'AGNETA NILSSON' are named 'PERSPECTIVE', 1 to 4 (I to IV). So, does the album you quoted 'PERSPECTIVE' really exists? I did not see it anywhere... Hope that serves even if TD is not mentionned anywhere! Dream on and on. Fred np : Towards the evening star, blue gravity mix (in my head, not on the player) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:05 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:36:07 +0100 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Wouter Bessels > > > Hi tadreamers, > > Is there somebody on the list who can burn me a CDR of *all* the rare > tracks that were included in Jerome's radio show ?? > > Please contact me if you have the possibility of doing this ! > > Thanks a lot, > Wouter What an excellent idea! Would anyone be able to burn a CD-R? Dennis Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11268 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Dave Brewer Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB 11273 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Robert Grabowsky Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:16 pm Subject: Re: Quichotte ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:56:27 +0100 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Michael Schuelke > > This Concert was issued by Virgin under the name 'PERGAMON' (Quichotte > Part I and II) from Caroline Records Inc. 5 Crosby Street, New York > N:Y: 10013. It's really the same original copy, believe me i have the > LP!!! Does that mean to say that the music on 'Pergamon' (which I have) is precisely the same as the music on the original 'Quichotte' pressing? Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:19 pm Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER News ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:08:00 -0800 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > hope there's a 25:1 ratio of 70s-80s-material-to-90s, heh heh. And, guys, > please, NO MORE TOUCHWOOD REMIXES!!!!!!!!!!! > > E-Man > np: Wishbone Ash, 'Illuminations' I've had about enough of 'Little Blonde Remixes', too.... Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:23 pm Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER News ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:20:54 -0500 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > > > Hilmar > (who is not affiliated with Dream Collector in any way but has been very > pleased with the quality and speed of information presented therein). How can you subscribe, then? Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:11 pm Subject: Fwd: Film Music Network March 2 Event Info Sorry to trouble you, but I thought either this might be of interest to you, or someone you might know. Ford A. Thaxton From: Mark Northam Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 12:16 am Subject: Film Music Network March 2 Event Info To: FILMUS-L@L... The Film Music Network, sponsored by CinemaTrax, presents Film Music Network Nights, a monthly networking series for professionals in the film music business. The events take place the first Monday of every month at 6:30pm at the Beverly Garland Holiday Inn, 4222 Vineland Avenue, Studio City, CA and feature guest speakers who focus on specific issues and challenges in the film music business. After these brief presentations, attendees are encouraged to network. Admission is $10, memberships are available. Guest speakers for the next event on Monday, March 2, 1998 are Jay Chattaway - composer (The Star Trek Series, National Geographic, various feature films) and president of the Society of Composers and Lyricists will discuss working with producers, current issues in the film and television music business, and the upcoming Film and TV Music Conference. Joe E. Rand - music editor (Titanic, The Saint, Clear and Present Danger) will discuss the role of music editors today and how composers can successfully choose and work with a music editor. ***** TECHNICAL SPOTLIGHT: The first in our series of monthly technical spotlights will feature WESTLAKE AUDIO, who will showcase their line of pro audio electronics, speakers, and their state-of-the-art recording studios. Come early (doors open at 6:30) and learn more about Westlake Audio's products and services ***** To RSVP or receive more information, call (818) 771-7778. For questions, call (818) 507-4900. Best Regards, Mark Northam and Lisa Anne Miller co-founders, The Film Music Network ************************************************************************* To leave FILMUS-L, send the command SIGNOFF FILMUS-L to LISTSERV@L... or send an e-mail message to FILMUS-L-request@L... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 4:54 pm Subject: Re: Film Music Network March 2 Event Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... Uh yeah, I found this to be of NO interest to me personally. Even though I live just an hour from there...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 6:08 pm Subject: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' This week we would like to hear comments on the World Tour CD 1997 / Das Maedchen auf der Treppe Please make the subject 'D:World Tour CD' when replying. Thanks, Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11310 Re: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 matt knudson Mon 2/23/1998 3 KB 11311 Re: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 2/23/1998 3 KB 11317 Re: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 Plumer, Scott Mon 2/23/1998 2 KB 11354 D: World Tour CD Dennis Nigbur Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 6:27 pm Subject: For Sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1@a... I have TD's 'Dolphin Dance' LP for sale. Tracks include Dolphin Dance, Dolphin Smile and Ride on the Ray. It's the Relativity release and it's in good condition. Send offers via email to AslanFan1@a... if you're interested. Thanks! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 13950 For Sale AslanFan1 Tue 5/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 6:49 pm Subject: D:World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' Nice updated version of White Eagle (madchen auf die Treppe). Although when I put the original version on I find a better version. I don't find too much difference between the first 2 tracks, btw. They could have left the last track off the cd, IMO it's not a very good track. TD is not too good in techno kind of tunes, imo (as well as Jarre and other great EM-bands). But this little CD has a nice memory for me, because I bought it at the Amsterdam concert (hi Lars!) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11267 Re: D:World Tour CD feldon@p... Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB 11277 D:World Tour CD Lawry Simm Sun 2/22/1998 4 KB 11282 Re: D:World Tour CD Jeffrey Au-Yeung Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB 11448 D:World Tour CD Tom Gerardy Thu 2/26/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 7:20 pm Subject: Dream Roots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Patrick, Perhaps if you played them you would hear considerable differences and may not want to sell them.... MJ >>> Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) I just purchased the import box set:The Dream Roots Collection. I did it to obtain that 5th cd with unrealeasd material. I have all the music on the first 4 cds....hence this message. Each cd is unplayed, >>> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 8:21 pm Subject: RE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:21 AM 2/20/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > 2. Rather than trying to buy bootlegs, you may have more success >trading tapes of said shows/boots with others on the list. You'll also >be helping TD by hurting the bootleggers. Mind if I puke at this statement? Thank you. Guess you don't like Electronic Orgy... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 8:29 pm Subject: Re: Revvin' on Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40)....killer vintage Berlin School >track, beautiful sound quality. This would be my fave, but it's one-upped >by Track Two. Um, this wouldn't be a segment of the 14:00 long encore from the Jan 31st, 1980 concert, would it? (I've got this segment on tape, just wondering)... Oy vey... that's gonna be a big MP3. feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 8:33 pm Subject: Re: Cds for sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:34 PM 2/20/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) > >I just purchased the import box set:The Dream Roots Collection. I did it >to obtain that 5th cd with unrealeasd material. I have all the music on >the first 4 cds....hence this message. >Each cd is unplayed, contains >over 1hr music per cd, is remastered...and in some cases rerecorded by >EF . You just conflicted yourself here. At the top, you say you have all this material... then in the 2nd paragraph, you say it's remastered and in some cases re-recorded... They don't sound like the same thing to me... Hence the reason I bought it (the unreleased disc 5, and the original 1987 Tyger segments were great too). >There is a 60 >pg booklet and a beautiful slip case to complete the set. And you're selling it? Um... ok. Must be really pinched for $$ >BTW ,I would >be happy to tape the >5th cd for you...just provide a quality 90 min cassete. I am asking >$45.00 which includes shipping. Heh, they're new for $44... feldon@p... np: Electronic Orgy disc 2 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 8:37 pm Subject: Re: D:World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 07:49 PM 2/21/98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > >Nice updated version of White Eagle (madchen auf >die Treppe). Although when I put the original version >on I find a better version. >I don't find too much difference between the first 2 tracks, btw. >They could have left the last track off the cd, IMO it's not a very >good track. This CD was the best $21 I ever wasted. 17 minutes long if memory serves? feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 9:21 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: Dennis Nigbur > > > Really-From: Wouter Bessels > > > > Is there somebody on the list who can burn me a CDR of *all* the rare > > tracks that were included in Jerome's radio show ?? > > > What an excellent idea! Would anyone be able to burn a CD-R? > I agree! I'd love to get a copy of this! I could easily supply the blank disc and shipping costs there and back. Dave Brewski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11273 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Robert Grabowsky Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 9:49 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' I don't undertand people here. There was a guy organizung a tree to distribute this radio show and aswered less than eigth persons.... just amazed, you know... Francisco tadream mailing list wrote: > > Really-From: Dave Brewer > > > Quoted From: Dennis Nigbur > > > > > Really-From: Wouter Bessels > > > > > > Is there somebody on the list who can burn me a CDR of *all* the rare > > > tracks that were included in Jerome's radio show ?? > > > > > What an excellent idea! Would anyone be able to burn a CD-R? > > > I agree! I'd love to get a copy of this! I could easily supply the blank > disc and shipping costs there and back. > > Dave Brewski Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11272 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Dave Brewer Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB 11353 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Dennis Nigbur Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Track List for the 25 CDs Requested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 08:20:54 -0500 you said: >Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER News >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > >Yesterday I received the latest Dream Collector edition and couldn't >believe what I saw!!! > >[. . .] The latest Dream Collector contains [. . .] full information >about 25 CDs of old and new material that will come out over the next >months from TDI. Every single CD is already listed with its name and >short info what's going to be on it, plus several scanned images of the >covers and more. INCREDIBLE!!! [. . .] Yup. Sure is. Enough teasing, now. Give us some specifics! >[. . .] And to make our mouths drool [. . .] And from what other bodily orifice, pray tell, might we drool, other than our mouths, might I ask? ;) >[. . .] there's already some advance info on extending these 25 CDs to >36 CDs... D'oh! Here we go: down to the pharmacy for some more K-Y. :( ;) >No, I'm not going to post all this info here. [. . .] Why not? If the tracklist for E. ORGY could get posted, what's stopping you? ;) >[. . .] Over time this info will surely appear in other places [. . .] Ah, I see: time constraints; you don't want to type all of it in. How about photocopying it all and snail-mailing it to someone with a scanner, then? Any volunteers, anyone? ;) :) :) :) Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, R. Carty, Greinke, Serrie. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Track List of Jerome's Radio Show Requested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:42:42 -0800 you said: >Subject: Re: Revvin' on Radio Eins*Electrobeats >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Elias Granillo, Jr. > >'On Cranes Passage' (demo~4:09) >'Brighton 1986 Guitar Part (Ride On The Ray)' (10:27) >'Brighton 1986 Legend Leftover' (3:43) >'Mandala' (4:49) >'Unicorn Theme (with Suzanne Pawlitzki)' (3:07) >'Girl On The Stairs '97/Thief Yang & the Tangram Seal '97 (Brussels)' > (12:17) >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40) Okay, I confess: I'd been deleting all the posts with 'Radio Eins' in the header for a few days until I absently looked at one and found out that a for-real track list seems to have been posted at one time or another. Is there a complete listing of all the 'rarities' that were played, or are the seven above all of it? -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11274 Re: Track List of Jerome's Radio Show Requested Patric Donaghy Sat 2/21/1998 2 KB 11278 Re: Track List of Jerome's Radio Show Requested Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 2/22/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 10:39 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > I don't undertand people here. > There was a guy organizung a tree to distribute this radio show and > aswered less than eigth persons.... I'm sorry! I must have missed it somehow. (don't ask me how!) With how busy I've been these days, I tend to just glance at things and then hit delete so my inbox doesn't explode. I try to catch things that are important (just barely caught all the stuff about Electronic Orgy and was able to order it in time), but I guess some things get by me. Ach! > just amazed, you know... Yeah, this whole 'life' thing is pretty damned amazing! :-) Dave B. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 10:50 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky Where were you guys 2 weeks ago when Hilmar Kraft made a post that he had this and would be willing to do trades for a copy of the Rare tracks from the show? THE HIGHLANDER >Really-From: Dave Brewer > > >> Quoted From: Dennis Nigbur >> >> > Really-From: Wouter Bessels >> > >> > Is there somebody on the list who can burn me a CDR of *all* the rare >> > tracks that were included in Jerome's radio show ?? >> > >> What an excellent idea! Would anyone be able to burn a CD-R? >> >I agree! I'd love to get a copy of this! I could easily supply the blank >disc and shipping costs there and back. > > Dave Brewski > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 11:19 pm Subject: Re: Track List of Jerome's Radio Show Requested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) I think the official TD web site has the listing. Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 6:35 pm Subject: ATTN: Nick Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Welcome to the list, but PLEASE DO NOT SHOUT! It makes things really hard to read. :-) Also, there are many tape traders on the list who will be only too willing to help you out on your quest. You may notice that some tape trees are just starting up, and if you hang on in for a couple of weeks, requests for subscribers to the next tree will be forthcoming (right Tom?). Sit back and enjoy the ride, Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11279 Re: ATTN: Nick Adams TWeibre361@a... Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 21, 1998 11:50 pm Subject: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' As there were no other takers on this one, here are my (barely coherent at this time of night) thoughts on one of the better albums that TD has produced in the 90's. Oasis TDI007CD 1. Flashflood 7:00 2. Zion 5:43 3. Reflections 5:08 4. Cliff Dwellers 5:06 5. Waterborne 7:20 6. Cedar Breaks 5:07 7. Summer Storm 6:06 8. Hopi Mesa Heart 5:51 Total running time 47:21 I'm always disappointed when a CD has less than 74 minutes worth of music on. Less than 60 minutes is distressing. Less than 50 is almost criminal. It's somewhat like wanting a pint of beer, paying for a pint of beer, but only getting 3 quarters of a pint. One feels cheated. I'd sooner have 4 albums with 60 minutes of good music, than 6 albums with only 40 minutes each on. Same hat, different bloke, I know... anyway, enough useless rambling, on to the music (well, maybe this is just another load of useless rambling too). First, let's deal with the low points. There are two weak links on this album IMHO, and for a 90's TD album, that isn't bad at all. The first is Cedar Breaks. Don't get me wrong here. I think the track is really pleasant, with it's slow moving string sounds, but it's precisely that. Slow moving. In fact, so slow that the track doesn't actually lead anywhere. It's 5 minutes of wasted space, quite out of keeping with the rest of the album. It's just not dynamic at all. This track would be better presented amongst tracks of a similar style on a separate CD. I feel that it just breaks up the momentum generated by the earlier tracks. The second waste of space is Hopi Mesa Heart, for much the same reason. It's 5 minutes of going nowhere. I think good E-music should take the listener on a journey. If all my journeys were like this I'd demand my money back. Right, on to the highlights. Pretty much the rest of the album. :-) Flashflood starts off sounding as though it could have been an extra cut for the Goblin's Club album, with the faint, almost subliminal sequence running behind the rhythm and strings. (No doubt, some of you will see that as a disparaging comment, bas as previously stated on the list, I love GC). When the strings and pads drop out briefly after 2 minutes, the rhythm really starts to pick up, and the whole feeling of movement and momentum starts to gather. I could listen to a whole album's worth (74 minutes Mr Froese! :-) ) of this stuff. _This_ is the journey I'm looking for. After a brief respite, (the first one and a half minutes of Zion), the journey picks up again. The sequenced ramblings don't sneak in here, but immediately stomp on your brain. Time to get moving. The best track on the album though has to be Waterborne. Similar to Flashflood in execution, but much more effectively delivered. Again, overtones of Goblin's Club, in fact the faint piano melody running through the first couple of minutes sounds almost like it's a direct rip off Towards the Evening Star. The 3:20 mark sees a change of pace. A dancing sequence swirls up and leads us on to the conclusion of the track. For the next four minutes, a series of moods and themes overlay this sequence, creating, once again, the dynamic feeling of movement. Overall, I'd cut out about 11 minutes from this album, making a total worthwhile running time of only 36 minutes, which at £14 (UK Pounds, $21 USD) is a tad expensive. Still, being TD, I had to have it, and I don't regret the purchase. If only they could produce music to the standard of Flashflood and Waterborne consistently, the world would be a better place and we'd all live in peace and harmony. :-) np - Oasis... obviously. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11280 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Sun 2/22/1998 4 KB 11298 Re: Oasis Jim Moore Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB 11309 Re: Oasis Mark Jones Mon 2/23/1998 6 KB 11351 Re: D: Oasis Dennis Nigbur Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB 11355 Re: D: Oasis Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11383 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11371 Re: D: Oasis Gabe Yedid Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11375 Re: D: Oasis Greg Heil Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11379 Re: D: Oasis Gabe Yedid Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 12:17 am Subject: D:World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Not much to say on this one, being only 3 tracks, but here goes anyway. Limited World Tour Edition 1997 TDI005CD 1. Maedchen on the stairs (Rien ne va plus - sunset radio mix) 4:08 (Froese/Schmoelling/Franke) 2. Maedchen on the stairs (Rien ne va plus - sunrise club mix) 6:55 (Froese/Schmoelling/Franke) 3. Order of the ginger gild 9:04 (Froese/Froese) Total running time 20:07 This CD has a limited edition status, with a run on 5000 copies. (Mine is number 1621) I must say that I like the way that the disc itself is designed. At first glance it looks like a square. The disk is clear with the burned section of the disk covered by square label print. Quite effective. Onto the music. Maechen auf der treppe, Maedchen on the stairs, The Girl on the Stairs, White Eagle... this track has appeared in many guises over the years, but these two mixes have to be my favourite. The three tracks here wouldn't be out of place on the Dream Mixes album. Obvoious really, as two of the tracks are remixes :-) but OOTGG is from the same mould. This one probably came from the son of Odin, rather than the great viking himself... (hey, does anyone else reckon that Cloud's hairstyle from Final Fantasy VII was based on Jerome's ???) I'm too tired to bother to critically appraise the composition (not my strongpoint anyway), so I'll just say that if you ever get the opportunity to buy this, do so, purely for it's 'limited edition' status, and the fact that being a single, it's less than half the cost of an album. If you don't like it, you could always use it as a rather neat coaster. Finally, there is a note inside the sleeve that these tracks may appear on future Tangerine Dream albums. np......(suspense)..... aww, you guessed it! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 12:23 am Subject: Re: Track List of Jerome's Radio Show Requested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 05:14 PM 2/21/1998 EST, Feldman wrote: > Is there a complete listing of all the 'rarities' that were played, >or are the seven above all of it? > Here it is, from the TD Official HomePage (no idea how the formatting is gonna come off): Electro Beats, February 1st, 1998 --------------------------------- Program: 01:00 - 02:00am 1. Tangerine Dream Timesquare Timesquare 2. Hooverphonic Cinderella A new stereophonic sound spectacular 3. Bentley Rhythm Ace Something to keep your 12' Midlander Vinyl Maxi sandwiches in 4. Coldcut Timber Let us play 5. Tangerine Dream Warsaw in the Sun 12' Vinyl Remix 1983 6. Elite Force Serenity Blown 12' Mainframe Wrekka Vinyl Maxi 7. A ndreas Dorau Die Sonne scheint 12' Die Sonne scheint Maxi Mouse on Mars Remix 8. Babyfox Rain (Cygnus X Remix) Rain Remixes Maxi CD 9. Plaid Headspin 333 Not for threes 10. Tangerine Dream Digital Sister Timesquare Program: 02:00 - 03:00am Jerome in the Mix Tracktitle: Albumtitle: Artist: 1. 7' Promo Single Precision Maxi 03: Ono Sendai (1998) Ono Sendai (?) 2. Techno Funk Twisted Anger Volume 5 Maxi (1997) Penny Black (?) 3. Sector 3 Sector 3 Maxi (1997) Ed Rush 4. Perceptron Perceptron Maxi (1997) Klute 5. Unlock the secrets No Mistake Maxi (1997) Concept 2 6. Cosmik Cosmik Maxi (1997) Motiv One 7. Redeemer Redeemer Maxi (1997) Underwolves 8. Wolf Wolf Maxi (1997) Tertius & Professor Smalls 9. Revelations Light years Maxi (1997) Cybotron feat. Dillinja 10. Terradaktil Terradaktil Maxi (1997) Pascal & Phantasy Program: 03:00 - 04:00am 'TD Rare Items' 1. On cranes passage DEMO 2. Brighton 1986 Guitar Part (Ride on the Ray) 3. Brighon 1986 Legend Leftover 4. Mandala 5. Unicorn Theme from Legend with Susanne Pawlitzki on Vocals 6. Girl on the Stairs 97 / Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal Live in Brussels 1997 7. Beach Theme 97 Live in Glasgow 8. Live in Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980 Program: 04:00 - 05:00am 1. Curve Cuckoo Cuckoo 2. Smashing Pumpkins 1979 Moby Remix 1979 CD Maxi 3. Spooky Hypo Allergenic Found Sound 4. Photek K.J.Z. Modus Operandi 5. Eat Static Dionysiac Epsylon EP 6. Portishead Scorn (Glory Times Rmix) Glory Times Double Maxi CD 7. Saint Etienne Railway Jam So tough 8. Sneaker Pimps 6 Underground(Fila Brazilia Mix) 6 Underground Remixes CD Maxi 8. Funki Porcini Going Down Coldcut / DJ Food Fight From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 1:06 am Subject: Re: ATTN: Nick Adams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-21 19:21:36 EST, you write: << requests for subscribers to the next tree will be forthcoming (right Tom?). >> yup....it is the ultimate orgy....just started running tape tree 1 and i realized that all this bs about keeps and oasises and ghosts and ost is just that: bs,,, the dream is living, and its prime exponent is live....one can say what they want about the studio, but 4 me the ultimate test is live....long live the live dream...amen.... np: (blasting) - td rheims.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 1:48 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:50 PM 2/21/98 -0000, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > >As there were no other takers on this one, here are my (barely coherent at >this time of night) thoughts on one of the better albums that TD has >produced in the 90's. Dream Mixes <--- best TD since Livemiles Oasis <--- 2nd best TD since Livemiles >Oasis TDI007CD > >1. Flashflood 7:00 >5. Waterborne 7:20 Bordering on the orgasmic here. Haven't heard sequencing this good since Poland concert. >I'm always disappointed when a CD has less than 74 minutes worth of music >on. Less than 60 minutes is distressing. It's a soundtrack. 'Nuff said! >First, let's deal with the low points. There are two weak links on this >album IMHO, and for a 90's TD album, that isn't bad at all. The first is >Cedar Breaks. Let's face it, I've heard more exciting dishwashing machines. >Flashflood starts off sounding as though it could have been an extra cut for >the Goblin's Club album, with the faint, almost subliminal sequence running >behind the rhythm and strings. As far as I'm concerned, the sequencing here is finally getting to be on par with where TD was 10 years ago =) >The best track on the album though has to be Waterborne. Similar to >Flashflood in execution, but much more effectively delivered. Right on! >Overall, I'd cut out about 11 minutes from this album, making a total >worthwhile running time of only 36 minutes, which at £14 (UK Pounds, $21 >USD) is a tad expensive. I can afford $14, but not $21 for this album. (Local shop) Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 2:13 am Subject: Re: Fripp Blowing Off Froese in Bowie's Berlin Studio in 1977 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600@a... ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????HOW DO YOU PEOPLE KNOW THIS STUFF???????????????????? ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? IS IT 90 % HEARSAY AND 10% BS???????????????????????????????????????? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 2:18 am Subject: Re: D:World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Limited World Tour Edition 1997 TDI005CD 1. Maedchen on the stairs (Rien ne va plus - sunset radio mix) 4:08 (Froese/Schmoelling/Franke) 2. Maedchen on the stairs (Rien ne va plus - sunrise club mix) 6:55 (Froese/Schmoelling/Franke) 3. Order of the ginger gild 9:04 (Froese/Froese) First listened to the 2nd track as the first encore of the 97 tour. Quite fond of this new danceable version, but have a strange idea...wondered if Edgar had one more son (i.e. TD again as a trio but with 2 sons), would the CD include one more extra long ambient version of White Eagle (sort of like KS' Crystal Lake, for instance)?? Anyway how strange my first TD record was White Eagle in '82, and then my first ever TD concert in '97 coincided with a new version of White Eagle :) Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 6:36 am Subject: RE: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40)....killer vintage Berlin School > >track, beautiful sound quality. This would be my fave, but it's one-upped > >by Track Two. > > Um, this wouldn't be a segment of the 14:00 long encore from the Jan 31st, > 1980 concert, would it? (I've got this segment on tape, just wondering)... Not *exactly* sure, I'd have to double-check. It may indeed be from the Palast sets. Anybody know offhand? E-Man np: (Electrobeats) 'Brighton '86 Guitar Part' (so LOUD that my sis just came and shut my bedroom door, hehe) Elias Granillo, Jr. upnsm0ke@g... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11316 Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats Plumer, Scott Mon 2/23/1998 3 KB 11318 Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 2/23/1998 3 KB 11322 Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats DJS Mon 2/23/1998 4 KB 11324 Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats Plumer, Scott Mon 2/23/1998 2 KB 11334 Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats DJS Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 6:36 am Subject: Fwd: New Mailing List (rec.music.newage post) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' Just in case anybody's interested. If ya are, ya are. If yer not, yer not :-) > Hello, > > I just started a mailing list that discusses the music of enigma, deep > forest, delerium, enya, tangerine dream and related groups. I have also > created a new web site with tons of links to these musical groups at: > http://netnet.net/~geispc27 > > To join my new mailing list, simply send email to me at: > (geispc27@n...)and I will subscribe you. > > Thanks and I hope to see you on the mailing list, > > Pete Geisheker > Elias Granillo, Jr. upnsm0ke@g... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11285 Re: Fwd: New Mailing List (rec.music.newage post) Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB 11294 Re: Fwd: New Mailing List (rec.music.newage post) Antonio Nunes Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:13 am Subject: Re: Fwd: New Mailing List (rec.music.newage post) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:36 PM 2/21/1998 -0800, E-man wrote: >Just in case anybody's interested. If ya are, ya are. If yer not, yer not >:-) > >> >> I just started a mailing list that discusses the music of enigma, deep >> forest, delerium, enya, tangerine dream and related groups. I have also >> created a new web site with tons of links to these musical groups at: >> http://netnet.net/~geispc27 Thanks, E-man. Now if we could only prevail on Peter to drop Yawni and Enya, we would be in business. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:25 am Subject: IRC Chat with Vangelis Biographer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gary Davis Well, it's a new year and time The Artist Shop to get back into IRC Chats. Our first for 1998 is a chat with Mark Griffin, the author of the biography, Vangelis - The Unknown Man. This chat will be held at 4pm EST on Sunday, February 22. Vangelis is one of the most creative musicians of our time. Mark Griffin has documented his life from early childhood and his part in such bands as Forminx and Aphrodite's Child to his extremely successful solo career, his partnership with Jon Anderson of Yes and his many musical endeavors that have NEVER been recorded! This special session has been set for a Sunday afternoon so that our friends in Europe will be able to join the chat, too. Meet us at the Talk City IRC server on channel <@Music>. For those of you who are IRC impaired, Talk City also has a website interface that works beautifully. Just go to and click 'Chat' in the button bar at the top of the page. I tested this myself and was able to join a chat through a Netscape browser. I was even able to do it through a lowly AOL browser! Full details on this chat are at . To find out more about the Vangelis biography, go to . Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@a... phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 8:07 am Subject: Spirit Of The Age ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Just found this UK compilation CD with a TD extract: 'Spirit Of The Age', Castle Communication RENCD 118 1. Starship Trooper - Yes 2. Brain Salad Surgery - ELP 3. Back Street Love - Curved Air 4. America - The Nice 5. Master Of The Universe - Hawkwind 6. Do It - Pink Fairies 7. Devil's Answer - Atomic Rooster 8. Funk Angel - Brinsley Schwarz 9. Love Like A Man - Ten Years After 10. Locomotive Breath - Jethro Tull 11. Fire & Water - Free 12. Debora - T.Rex 13. Mocking Bird - Barclay James Harvest 14. I Am The Walrus - Spooky Tooth 15. Oh Yeah - Can 16. Zeit - TD (about 3:34) The extract is believed the same music on The Dream Roots Collection. The title of the sampler seems coming from a Yes song off theTormato album, though I forgot the name of it. Jeffrey Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11288 Re: Spirit Of The Age Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 8:37 am Subject: Re: Spirit Of The Age ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' > > > Just found this UK compilation CD with a TD extract: > > 'Spirit Of The Age', Castle Communication RENCD 118 > > The title of the sampler seems coming from a Yes song off theTormato album, > though I > forgot the name of it. Actually, 'Spirit of the Age' is a Hawkwind song from their QUARK, STRANGENESS & CHARM LP. E-Man np: Black Sabbath, *Eternal Idol* (demo version w/ Ray Gillen--vox--instead of Tony Martin) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 8:49 am Subject: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' These are the albums scheduled for release in March as found from Music Boulevard http://www.musicblvd.com/ ''69-'73-Analogue Space Years' Tangerine Dream Cleopatra , Scheduled for Release 03/03/98 2 CD SET   Scheduled for Release on 03/03/98 'Collection' Tangerine Dream Castle Communications , Scheduled for Release 03/10/98   Scheduled for Release on 03/10/98 ___________________________________________________ S/T Tangerine Dream Disky , Released 12/17/96 IMPORT - HOLLAND ---Anyone know what this is? At Music Boulevard they had a album cover photo which is found here with album info... http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2589725888136598_43_434793 Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11290 Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB 11303 Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. feldon@p... Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 9:12 am Subject: Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > S/T > Tangerine Dream > Disky , Released 12/17/96 > IMPORT - HOLLAND > ---Anyone know what this is? At Music Boulevard they had a > album cover photo which is found here with album info... > http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2589725888136598_43_434793 Hey, Greg, I just saw that cover, and it's just ANOTHER compilation that's been out for awhile. Despite the coll Franke/Froese/Baumann hippy cover-pic, it has tunes from other line-ups. Save your money, dude! We're going to need it if TDI is going to release the Mother of All Archival Compact Discs *series* this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11303 Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. feldon@p... Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 9:56 am Subject: Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info + (Humour) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' Hi there, >> S/T , Tangerine Dream , Disky , Released 12/17/96 >> IMPORT - HOLLAND >> ---Anyone know what this is? >Despite the coll Franke/Froese/Baumann hippy >cover-pic, it has tunes from other line-ups. Nope, it includes the complete Phaedra album plus Rubycon (part one) and the track Stratosfear, running over 60 minutes and is quite cheap over here (about 7 bucks, 4 quid). > Save your money, dude! Absolutely (if you already have Phaedra). >We're going to need it if TDI is going to release > the Mother of All Archival Compact Discs *series* this year!!!!!! Seeing is believing. Ob: Tangentizing: Unlike the Tangents release we´re NOT able to compare between the tangentized *soft chord* and the original *unreleased* versions, or ? To Hilmar: Tell NOONE about the new releases, please. Keep your lips sealed ! Jens np: The Force Chain - Ich weiss was, was Du nicht weisst, nur zum Spass mach ich Dich heiss. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11297 Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info + (Humour) Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 2/22/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 11:07 am Subject: Re: Quichotte ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Schuelke tadream mailing list schrieb: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > > On Fri, 20 Feb 1998 19:56:27 +0100 tadream mailing list > wrote: > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Really-From: Michael Schuelke > > > > This Concert was issued by Virgin under the name 'PERGAMON' > (Quichotte > > Part I and II) from Caroline Records Inc. 5 Crosby Street, New York > > N:Y: 10013. It's really the same original copy, believe me i have > the > > LP!!! > > Does that mean to say that the music on 'Pergamon' (which I > have) is precisely the same as the music on the original > 'Quichotte' pressing? > > Dennis Exactly !!!!! one condition performing in east berlin was to give the copyrights AMIGA. (so they did'nt need to pay hard deutschmarks for it) But surely gave TD the rights to another record label.....that was Pergamon is! bye -- _______________________________ EVERY MAN DIES, NOT EVERY MAN REALLY LIVES. _______________________________ Michael Schülke braveheart@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 11:07 am Subject: Re:undulation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Schuelke tadream mailing list schrieb: > > ---------------------------- Forwarded with Changes > --------------------------- > From: Nick Adams at Cottam > Date: 2/17/98 12:23AM > To: internet tadream-request@c... at MultiMessage > Receipt Requested > Subject: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ______________________________ Forward Header > __________________________________ > Subject:DREAMING > Author: Nick Adams at Cottam > Date: 17/02/98 00:23 > > HI, IVE BEEN INTO T DREAM NOW FOR A GOOD 25YRS AND IN MY OPINION > 90% > OF WHAT THEY PRODUCED UP UNTILL LIVE MILES WAS SUPERB,APART FROM > A FEW > TO MANY SOUNDTRACKS.SINCE THEN 220 VOLT AND TOURNADO AND MAYBE > GOBLINS > CLUB ON A GOOD DAY HAVE BEEN REASONABLY OK.IT SEEMS NOW THE ONLY > WAY > TO GET GOOD DREAM MUSIC IS TO SEARCH OUT ALL THE MANY BOOTLEGS > ABOUT. > SOME OF THE BOOTLEGS IVE PICKED UP RECENTLY ARE > > PATROLLING SPACE BORDERS - A GREAT ALBUM, SOUND QUALITY NOT SO > GREAT > SOMNAMBULISTIC IMAGES - GOOD ALBUM, SOUND QUALITY NOT VERY GOOD > STRANGE ATTRACTIONS - A GREAT ALBUM,SUPERB SOUND QUALITY > RATIKON - ANOTHER GOOD ALBUM, GOOD SOUND QUALITY > DONT WALK DREAM NOW - SHIT HOT ALBUM, SHIT SOUND QUALITY > DANGER LIVE - BLOODY GREAT ALBUM, GOOD SOUND QUALITY > COEFFICIENT OF AURAL EXPANSION PT 1 - GREAT ALBUM, GOOD SOUND > QUALITY > COEFFICIENT OF AURAL EXPANSION PT 2 - GREAT ALBUM, GREAT SOUND > QUALITY > LIVE IMPROVISED - GOOD ALBUM, GOOD SOUND QUALITY > THREE TIER DREAM - GREAT ALBUM,GOOD SOUND QUALITY > THREE TIER DREAM ON - ANOTHER GREAT ALBUM,GOOD SOUND QUALITY > > NOW THIS IS WHERE ALL YOU T DREAMERS COULD HELP ME.I AM LOOKING > FOR > OTHERS, BELOW IS A LIST OF WHAT IM AFTER. > ME-RAD > AMERICANA ARGONAUTICA > THESE 2 AND ANOTHER I DONT KNOW THE TITLE OF, MADE UP A TRILLOGY. > ORANGES FROM FRANCE > BEYOND THE WALL > STAATGRENGE WEST (DODGY SPELLING ALERT) > UNDULATION > DREAMING ON DANFORTH AVENUE > SPHERICAL HARMONICS 1 & 2 > QUINOA > FIRST HALF OF TOURNADO CONCERT > IM SURE THERE ARE OTHERS IF ANY BODY KNOWS ANY. > > IF ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE I COULD GET ANY OF THESE ALBUMS I WOULD BE > TRULY GRATEFULL. > YOU CAN E MAIL ME OFF LIST IF YOU LIKE ON > NICK ADAMS@C... I have a copy of 'Undulation' (Soundtrack for fantasy-live in detroit)and the second part 'The Emerald beyond' (Acoustic LSD-live in seattle). Have you some of the stuff mentioned in your mail? Perhaps we can make a deal? Bye -- _______________________________ EVERY MAN DIES, NOT EVERY MAN REALLY LIVES. _______________________________ Michael Schülke braveheart@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 12:15 pm Subject: Re: Fwd: New Mailing List (rec.music.newage post) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' wrote: > > Just in case anybody's interested. If ya are, ya are. If yer not, yer not > :-) > > > Hello, > > > > I just started a mailing list that discusses the music of enigma, deep > > forest, delerium, enya, tangerine dream and related groups. I have also > > created a new web site with tons of links to these musical groups at: > > http://netnet.net/~geispc27 > > > > To join my new mailing list, simply send email to me at: > > (geispc27@n...)and I will subscribe you. > > > > Thanks and I hope to see you on the mailing list, > > > > Pete Geisheker That's funny, I've seen a similar post from this guy at alt.emusic but he doesn't mention Tangerine Dream there. Perhaps he thinks TD is not an emusic group?! Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Flemming Larsen unsubscribe tadream subscribe tadream-digest Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11296 Re: DAVENTURA@a... Sun 2/22/1998 2 KB 11304 george? burns Sun 2/22/1998 2 KB 11305 george? burns Sun 2/22/1998 2 KB 11343 Stephen, Frank Tue 2/24/1998 2 KB 11642 Stephen Yensen Thu 3/5/1998 4 KB 11648 Stephen Yensen Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 12235 feldon@p... Mon 3/23/1998 3 KB 12462 Doug Daughtry Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12749 Marek Mastalerz Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 2:56 pm Subject: Re: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-22 08:39:42 EST, you write: << Really-From: Flemming Larsen unsubscribe tadream subscribe tadream-digest >> Don't these people ever read the little paragraph above every letter?...duh. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 4:19 pm Subject: Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info + (Humour) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > >> S/T , Tangerine Dream , Disky , Released 12/17/96 > >> IMPORT - HOLLAND > >> ---Anyone know what this is? > > >Despite the coll Franke/Froese/Baumann hippy > >cover-pic, it has tunes from other line-ups. > > Nope, it includes the complete Phaedra album plus Rubycon (part one) > and the track Stratosfear, running over 60 minutes > and is quite cheap over here (about 7 bucks, 4 quid). Oops! > > > Save your money, dude! > > Absolutely (if you already have Phaedra). > > >We're going to need it if TDI is going to release > > the Mother of All Archival Compact Discs *series* this year!!!!!! > > Seeing is believing. And buying K-Y (for Steven, haha) :-) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 4:45 pm Subject: RE: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Overall, I'd cut out about 11 minutes from this album, making a total >worthwhile running time of only 36 minutes, which at £14 (UK Pounds, $21 >USD) is a tad expensive. Still, being TD, I had to have it, and I don't >regret the purchase. If only they could produce music to the standard of >Flashflood and Waterborne consistently, the world would be a better place >and we'd all live in peace and harmony. :-) Since you don't seem to have the American release, I would have to recommend the track 'Chia Maroon' to you. As Sammy Davis, Jr., would say: 'This is one cookin' tune, man!' Several have said that it doesn't work well with the rest of the songs on the album, which is true in that it does not deal solely with a specific aspect of the landscape subject material, but this song is a macro view of the southwest desert like racing through it in a small jet. - jimbo 'If you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11309 Re: Oasis Mark Jones Mon 2/23/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 3:34 am Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) I'll burn copies once I get mine if anyone wants it. Contact me off list, but don't expect a reply until next weekend as I'm not picking up mail until then. On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 11:36:07 +0100, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: Wouter Bessels > > >Hi tadreamers, > >Is there somebody on the list who can burn me a CDR of *all* the rare >tracks that were included in Jerome's radio show ?? > >Please contact me if you have the possibility of doing this ! > >Thanks a lot, >Wouter > -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12207 Steven is right about the Keep 1986 (?) LP!! Dennis Nigbur Sun 3/22/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 5:47 pm Subject: New Listee ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TadreamUSA@a... Hello Everyone... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 5:52 pm Subject: Hey It's DAVENTURA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TadreamUSA@a... Hey, Dreamers check out my cool new name...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 6:52 pm Subject: Re: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' Really-From: 'Jim Moore' Since you don't seem to have the American release, I would have to recommend the track 'Chia Maroon' to you. As Sammy Davis, Jr., would say: 'This is one cookin' tune, man!' Several have said that it doesn't work well with the rest of the songs on the album, which is true in that it does not deal solely with a specific aspect of the landscape subject material, but this song is a macro view of the southwest desert like racing through it in a small jet. - jimbo 'Chia Maroon' is quite an awesome tune--I think I said before about its relation to Logos Blue with more percussion. I say that because of the sweeping 'non-breaking' synth line at the latter half of the song. This is TD at its best with a dominant synth playing rather than an array of harpsichord or other quirky notes as the dominant theme. I think 'Flashflood' and 'Zion' are the albums two best tracks and I have a simmilar disinterest 'Cedar Breaks' as the idea is good, but it just seems endless and directionless. I'm used to skipping this track, but I figure if I'm ever going to understand it, I'll have to listen to it over and over! This is a soundtrack, yet when we get a new *real* album, it 'Goblin's Club' I think GC has too much going on, as compared to 'Oasis' which has just enough and what it does have, it is good sound creation. I think TD needs to lay low on the samplers and get more into song structure. 'Waterborne' is probably the best soundscape TD has done in a long while.. They certainally got the water and waterfall effects down with sounds! Everything on this track speaks the atmosphere its trying to create--I don't need the pictures to see this one :) Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 15098 Oasis Richard Bilek Sun 6/28/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:15 pm Subject: Re: 2 New TD Albums of Old Stuff Info. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 01:12 AM 2/22/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > >> Really-From: 'Greg Heil' >> >> >> S/T >> Tangerine Dream >> Disky , Released 12/17/96 >> IMPORT - HOLLAND >> ---Anyone know what this is? At Music Boulevard they had a >> album cover photo which is found here with album info... >> http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2589725888136598_43_434793 > >Hey, Greg, I just saw that cover, and it's just ANOTHER compilation that's >been out for awhile. Despite the coll Franke/Froese/Baumann hippy >cover-pic, it has tunes from other line-ups. Save your money, dude! We're >going to need it if TDI is going to release the Mother of All Archival >Compact Discs *series* this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have this disc (and yes I bought it on purpose, I had lost my Rubycon disc)... It's all of Phaedra (Phaedra, Mysterious semblance, Moments of a visionary) Rubycon (part one) and Stratosfear. Not a bad disc. It's kewl to listen to in one setting. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:37 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'george? burns' subscribe Glenn Harrison ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:37 pm Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'george? burns' subscribe Glenn Harrison ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 22, 1998 7:53 pm Subject: Interest for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune@a... Yes, I am interested!! Let me know how to repay you!! Marcelo G. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 12:29 am Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-02-21 16:53:00 EST, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' I don't undertand people here. There was a guy organizung a tree to distribute this radio show and aswered less than eigth persons.... just amazed, you know... Francisco >> You are correct and I was one of them that joined, but I can't remember who organized it and am still interested in making the trade. If someone remembers who or if that person is reading this, would you contact me off line so I can send you my address and get yours, please? Thanks, Dell (aoutland@a...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 2:41 am Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Hanna > I signed up for the tree too. I've tried sending a couple of messages to the > person running it but they keep coming back as undeliverable. > Really-From: AOutland@a... > > In a message dated 98-02-21 16:53:00 EST, you write: > > << > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > > I don't undertand people here. > There was a guy organizung a tree to distribute this radio show and > aswered less than eigth persons.... > > just amazed, you know... > > Francisco > >> > You are correct and I was one of them that joined, but I can't remember > who organized it and am still interested in making the trade. If someone > remembers who or if that person is reading this, would you contact me off line > so I can send you my address and get yours, please? Thanks, Dell > (aoutland@a...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 4:54 am Subject: RE: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Jones Much of the criticism leveled at TD of late has been in response to the surface appearance of things. The perceived change of TD's style over the past 10 years is that the music has become more pop-oriented, and the philosophy behind the various projects is now one of creating a better music machine rather than better music. Edgar's gotten a bit lite in the loops, complain some listeners, and too reliant on factory presets. Others point out that 'Goblin's Club' tracks have too many changes, never focussing on one theme or sequence for any appreciable length of time. This of course makes the band seem whimsical rather than merely observant. There is no proof or argument to run to the contrary which I can offer; I'm not terribly good at debating others. But please note: 'perceived change,' 'seem whimsical.' But if sounds are objects, and the music a model of an unconscious mind at work, then TD seems to be given to a good deal of froth. Subatomic particles are also froth of a different nature. (AA Attanasio explains it better. Also, quantum phsysicists, please don't shoot; I'm a writer, not a scientist). I would hazard the supposition that a great deal of what we believe about ourselves is based on the same kind of froth: fragmented images which slide into one another with no apparent organization; half-heard sounds that might have been words; vague pieces of unspecific recall that have been reordered, restructured, and reinterpreted into a more reasonable and understandable form that we call 'memories,' or 'stories,' or 'music.' So perhaps what has been done is not so much a focus on marketing or on the lite side of TD, but rather, to start reflecting more of what we make of the world in which we live. More of a cultural statement or a zeitgeist than museum pieces to worship the latest piece of software or hardware. That's what I've liked a lot about TD: the whole of them is always more than the sum of their parts. I've been listening to Oasis for a month now, wondering what I thought about it. I guess the deal is that Oasis is, in my opinion, a good perception of the desert. The sonic effects are subtle and powerful (the slices of whispering thunder on 'Summer Storm' is a masterpiece, as is that long bell ringing through the introduction); there's a sense of manipulating odd textures and patterns in order to understand the froth that they have been made out of. What I like most about Oasis is that it doesn't try to evoke the 'natural wonders of the desert in all its spectacular beauty' (ack gag!) like one of those saccharine Nicholas Gunn albums, but rather, it tries to get down to the existence, the substance, of the desert. There's water, there's heat, wide open spaces, lots of sand, some weird green things we insist on calling 'plant life,' yadiyadiyada. Underneath that is a struggle for things to live in a land which is inherently hostile to life, a strange mix of hypertech Western with Native spiritualism; yeah, froth, that's the word I was looking for. A dry froth. It's good to be here; glad to still be listening and reading. ************************************* Mark --- mjones@j... '... the only open fields were heavens, mechanical heavens, chemical heavens, mathematical heavens where the signs of the zodiac went round and round, each in its own element ... ' Andre Breton, _Soluble Fish_ (20) ************************************* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 5:52 am Subject: Re: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) For the absolute fastest internet access on the planet, check out: www.interjetnet.net On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 18:08:44 -0000 tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) writes: >This week we would like to hear comments on the World Tour CD 1997 / >Das Maedchen auf der Treppe >Please make the subject 'D:World Tour CD' when replying. >Thanks, >Lawry OK, where does one purchase this CD and for how much? _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 6:32 am Subject: Re: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) > > > >This week we would like to hear comments on the World Tour CD 1997 / > >Das Maedchen auf der Treppe > >Please make the subject 'D:World Tour CD' when replying. > >Thanks, > >Lawry > > > OK, where does one purchase this CD and for how much? $18 from Jack Wolak's *Rare Necessities* in Syracuse, New York (they're reliable & legit, I got the *Thief Yang* single from them)....they take VISA/MC/AE....call 315-452-1355 E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 10:31 am Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hilmar Kraft >>No, I'm not going to post all this info here. [. . .] >Why not? If the tracklist for E. ORGY could get posted, what's stopping you? ;) But I already did, my friend! Yes, I did type in the *tracklist* of Dream Collector....i.e. an overview of what is inside the latest edition! I did *not* post the entire edition itself , just as nobody posted the entire E. ORGY itself as MP3 file here! >>[. . .] Over time this info will surely appear in other places [. . .] > Ah, I see: time constraints; you don't want to type all of it in. >How about photocopying it all and snail-mailing it to someone with a >scanner, then? Any volunteers, anyone? ;) :) :) :) Steve (and also Jens): I don't know about the smileys in your post, but the reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or not, the copyright Dream Collector has on this text! Now if this article appeared in the Sunday Times or something, I would be the first to post it here, but in this case we have a small group of dedicated TD fans who have a good connection to the tadream office and band members and who put this newsletter together in their spare time! If all the info would appear here on tadream immediately, what interest would they have in continuing to invest their time and money (the subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover postage and materials but not the time to produce it!). It is quite simple...if you care about information like this, you subscribe and support them. If not...you wait a few days/weeks until the info appears on the TD homepage or elsewhere. I realize my message was a teaser, but I felt these guys deserve a little advertising for their project. And at least my message did contain *some* useful info, if you want more, contact the DC guys. >>[. . .] And to make our mouths drool [. . .] >And from what other bodily orifice, pray tell, might we drool, >other than our mouths, might I ask? ;) Ahhmmm....don't know, but why don't you write your next posting in German so I get to make fun of it? Hilmar Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11319 Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news John M. Poer Mon 2/23/1998 5 KB 11320 Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news TangerineC@a... Mon 2/23/1998 3 KB 11323 Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Mon 2/23/1998 4 KB 11331 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB 11352 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 11:22 am Subject: undulation etc ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... hi michael I am interested in undulation and emerald beyond,the only problem is i want to keep my dream albums and didnt really want to swop any. I was hoping that someone somewhere may have these albums and others i am looking for,for sale. Also I dislike tapes, so the format would have to be cd or lp, some may regard this as shortsightedness but what the hell,im a perfectionist. regards nick. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 11:33 am Subject: Dome of Yelloe Turtles.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles HI, Do I presume that the spelling of yellow in the above title is typo? (On BtSorm BTW :-)) Or is Edger (is there such a thing as a norse god of music?) trying to say something obscure? I reckon its a typo myself.. Colin Off to paint my house purpule! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 2:25 pm Subject: RE: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> 2. Rather than trying to buy bootlegs, you may have more success >>trading tapes of said shows/boots with others on the list. You'll also >>be helping TD by hurting the bootleggers. >Mind if I puke at this statement? Thank you. Guess you don't like >Electronic Orgy... Go right ahead. I was just trying to keep it legal. I don't have EO, but I already have 90% of what's on it. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 2:38 pm Subject: RE: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40)....killer vintage Berlin School >> >track, beautiful sound quality. This would be my fave, but it's >> Um, this wouldn't be a segment of the 14:00 long encore from the Jan >31st, >> 1980 concert, would it? (I've got this segment on tape, just >wondering)... >Not *exactly* sure, I'd have to double-check. It may indeed be from the >Palast sets. Anybody know offhand? If it was, why would they call it Dresden? I seem to remember a date at the Hygienemuseum, but my book only shows one date in Dresden, in 1983, and of course my book is the final authority on all TD concerts. :-) Might it have been in Voices? Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 2:48 pm Subject: RE: D:List , Addendum Week 2 - 22nd Feb, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>Please make the subject 'D:World Tour CD' when replying. >OK, where does one purchase this CD and for how much? > I think I got mine from either CDNow (http://www.cdnow.com) or RPM > (http://www.rpmrecords.com) . Musically, I don't think it was worth > it, but it's a nice collectible. > Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 3:55 pm Subject: Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > >> >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40)....killer vintage > > >> Um, this wouldn't be a segment of the 14:00 long encore from > the Jan > >31st, > >> 1980 concert, would it? (I've got this segment on tape, just > >wondering)... > > >Not *exactly* sure, I'd have to double-check. It may indeed be > from the > >Palast sets. Anybody know offhand? > > If it was, why would they call it Dresden? I seem to remember a ^^^^^^^^^^ Because that's the *specific* set they took it from. This track, just like 'Silver Scale/Horns of Doom' isn't just from the Brussels show, etc. I meant that it's a similar/identical piece performed as part of their 1980 Euro Tour setlist... > date at the Hygienemuseum, but my book only shows one date in Dresden, > in 1983, and of course my book is the final authority on all TD ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It is? [A little sarcasm...] E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 5:22 pm Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 05:31 AM 2/23/1998 -0500, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > > >>>No, I'm not going to post all this info here. [. . .] >>Why not? If the tracklist for E. ORGY could get posted, what's stopping >you? ;) > >But I already did, my friend! Yes, I did type in the *tracklist* of Dream >Collector....i.e. an overview of what is inside the latest edition! I did >*not* post the entire edition itself , just as nobody posted the entire E. >ORGY itself as MP3 file here! > >>>[. . .] Over time this info will surely appear in other places [. . .] > >> Ah, I see: time constraints; you don't want to type all of it in. >>How about photocopying it all and snail-mailing it to someone with a >>scanner, then? Any volunteers, anyone? ;) :) :) :) > > >Steve (and also Jens): I don't know about the smileys in your post, but the >reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or not, the >copyright Dream Collector has on this text! Now if this article appeared in >the Sunday Times or something, I would be the first to post it here, but in >this case we have a small group of dedicated TD fans who have a good >connection to the tadream office and band members and who put this >newsletter together in their spare time! > >If all the info would appear here on tadream immediately, what interest >would they have in continuing to invest their time and money (the >subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover postage and materials >but not the time to produce it!). It is quite simple...if you care about >information like this, you subscribe and support them. If not...you wait a >few days/weeks until the info appears on the TD homepage or elsewhere. > >I realize my message was a teaser, but I felt these guys deserve a little >advertising for their project. And at least my message did contain *some* >useful info, if you want more, contact the DC guys. > For What It's Worth..... I, for one, would be most pleased to subscribe to DC and be able to get the information. However, after a month of E-mails to them I still can't get the information necessary to subscribe. I don't know if that's a complaint, but it sure is a frustration. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 6:07 pm Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC@a... Why not write it in small doses then? For instance, maybe tell us about one release every couple of days and say,'I heard this was coming out soon' or something to that effect. This way you wouldnt be taking it directly from Dream Collector. Tom In a message dated 98-02-23 05:34:20 EST, you write: << Steve (and also Jens): I don't know about the smileys in your post, but the reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or not, the copyright Dream Collector has on this text! >> Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11323 Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Mon 2/23/1998 4 KB 11331 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB 11352 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 7:45 pm Subject: Re: trading/bootlegs/hypocrites ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS --------------------------------------- > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >> 2. Rather than trying to buy bootlegs, you may have more > success > >>trading tapes of said shows/boots with others on the list. > You'll also > >>be helping TD by hurting the bootleggers. > > >Mind if I puke at this statement? Thank you. Guess you don't > like > >Electronic Orgy... > > Go right ahead. I was just trying to keep it legal. I don't have > EO, but I already have 90% of what's on it. > > Scott Blah blah blah...legal schmegal. As if YOU don't own at least 5-10 bootlegs yourself. So you are saying you don't own any Mr. Diplomat? Oh wait, by saying you own 90% of what's on the Orgy it means that you DO own some bootlegged stuff. Shame on you, ;-) Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11325 Re: trading/bootlegs/hypocrites Plumer, Scott Mon 2/23/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 7:49 pm Subject: Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >> >'Live Dresden Hygienemuseum 1980' (8:40)....killer vintage > Berlin School > >> >track, beautiful sound quality. This would be my fave, but > it's > > >> Um, this wouldn't be a segment of the 14:00 long encore from > the Jan > >31st, > >> 1980 concert, would it? (I've got this segment on tape, just > >wondering)... > > >Not *exactly* sure, I'd have to double-check. It may indeed be > from the > >Palast sets. Anybody know offhand? > > If it was, why would they call it Dresden? I seem to remember a > date at the Hygienemuseum, but my book only shows one date in Dresden, > in 1983, and of course my book is the final authority on all TD > concerts. :-) Might it have been in Voices? > > Scott Now Scott, you don't have this CD do you? That would be a....er....a bootleg? ;-) Dano np: Midnight Express-chase (Faltermeyer/Moroder) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 7:11 pm Subject: Andy Pickford - Finally! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Just when I thought I had uncovered all of the cool CD shops in the Toronto area, I uncovered yet another last month. It had escaped my attention because from the outside it's just an incense-filled second hand book store specializing in eastern religions and government conpiracies. But it also has a music section. And well, to my shock it proved to have the best selection of electronic music I've seen in this city. Never judge a book store by its cover! This is the first time I've seen artists like Radio Massacre International or Andy Pickford on a store shelf. Speaking of which, I snagged a copy of Pickford's 'Works II - Live at Derby Hall' album. This is the first time I've had a chance to hear a Pickford album...and well, I can certainly see why people complaining about 'TD's current direction' have been encouraged to check this guy out. One can already draw comparisons to mid-80s TD live material (except more Franke-ish than Froese-ish), with a touch of late-80s Vangelis thrown in. Listening to this now reminds me a bit of when I played disk 5 of Dream Roots for the first time. Heck, if someone played a track like 'Solitude's Shadow' and told me it was unrleased TD, I'd have believed them. This is classic, textured electronic music, unmarred by saxophone, harpsichord or pointless guitar riffing. Great stuff. And hey...that looks like Andy's actual signature on the disk...did he sign *all* of them? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11331 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB 11352 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 8:31 pm Subject: RE: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> If it was, why would they call it Dresden? I seem to remember a >> date at the Hygienemuseum, but my book only shows one date in Dresden, >> in 1983, and of course my book is the final authority on all TD >> concerts. :-) Might it have been in Voices? >> >Now Scott, you don't have this CD do you? That would be a....er....a >bootleg? ;-) No way! Tape! Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 8:30 pm Subject: RE: trading/bootlegs/hypocrites ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Blah blah blah...legal schmegal. As if YOU don't own at least 5-10 >bootlegs yourself. So you are saying you don't own any Mr. Diplomat? Oh >wait, by saying you own 90% of what's on the Orgy it means that you DO >own some bootlegged stuff. Shame on you, ;-) I own NO TD boots, but I have loads of stuff on tape. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 8:27 pm Subject: Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >And hey...that looks like Andy's actual signature on the disk...did he >sign *all* of them? Nope. Speaking of Pickford: There´s *maybe* still one copy of 'Works I' (limited to 500 copies) in a local record store (Hanover, Germany). It won´t be cheap, but if anyone really wanna have it I´d be happy to check&buy&send it. I´m not sure if it´s still there, though. OFF-LIST´s the keyword. I for one much prefer his collaboration with Ian Boddy, entitled Symbiont. Kicks a bit more. Works II includes lots of 'Terraformer' tunes, btw. BTW: Anyone visiting the forthcoming Alfa Centauri festival in the Netherlands ? Don´t miss acts like Mark Shreeve&Ian Boddy (aka ARC) and Keller&Schoenwaelder ! ARC will have two HUGE modular systems under control ! Wanna see and hear a BIG MOOG Modular ? No ? Oh, well ;-) ta ra Jens Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11333 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 2/24/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 10:09 pm Subject: RE: DJS/Scott NO TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Now Scott, you don't have this CD do you? That would be a....er....a bootleg? ;-) Dano np: Midnight Express-chase (Faltermeyer/Moroder) YOU GO BOY!!!!!!! (This would be me yelling) Chris. n.p. Flash Gordon/Queen- GO FLASH GO! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 15:30:22 -0500 you said: >Subject: RE: trading/bootlegs/hypocrites >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Plumer, Scott The Illustrious Dano, Man Among Men, said: >>[. . .] by saying you own 90% of what's on the Orgy it means that >>you DO own some bootlegged stuff. Shame on you, ;-) whereupon the Scrupulous Scott, Compiler of Compilers, said: > I own NO TD boots, but I have loads of stuff on tape. which, in turn, caused the KEEP-addled Steve, Lover of the Tune 'Desert Train' (a joke for Lars), to bellow: You *OWN NO BOOTS*?!? What do you do when there's three inches of slush outside, then? I mean, it *is* the Winter, ya know! All kidding aside, I find it really hard to believe that someone so rabidly into 'live recordings' (a virtual synonym for 'boots,' in some circles) could truly own not a single LP nor CD boot. I myself have one LP boot, about five CD boots, seven CD-R boots and -- WATCH OUT FOR *THIS ONE*! -- one MC boot: STAATSGRENGE WEST. Yes, I actually have a bootleg cassette. What does that say, then, about all your on-cassette 'live recordings'? Do you differentiate the live tapes YOU have from Bootleg Cassettes on the basis that your tapes weren't *bought* from a used record store and/or bootlegger, or on the basis that the tapes you have don't have snazzy graphics produced by parties expressedly intent on charging for their tapes? I'm just trying to say that an 'unauthorized tape' (nobody got our buddy Edgar's permission to release any of them, did they?) is not inherently different from a bootleg. What you have are 'fan tapes.' Quite often, bootlegs are called 'fan recordings' -- or even *more* coyly (at some stores I've been too, at least), 'import records' -- so I think we're sorta splitting hairs, here. (And the term 'underground recordings' isn't much better, as it implies the opposite of 'above-board recordings' -- which is synonymous to . . . 'legit recordings.') Sorry to be a wet blanket by implying that a book you are connected to is essentially a guide to bootleg tapes, but hey, if the shoe (or sandal or pump or sneaker, or . . . boot?) fits, what can I say? -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unidentified flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts the Air Force has silenced it personnel.' --Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the 1st director of the CIA, quoted in THE NEW YORK TIMES, February 28, 1960. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11347 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Plumer, Scott Tue 2/24/1998 5 KB 11350 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings feldon@p... Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB 11349 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings DAVENTURA@a... Tue 2/24/1998 2 KB 11360 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Plumer, Scott Tue 2/24/1998 2 KB 11362 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings TWeibre361@a... Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11364 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Dave Brewer Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11367 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Vic Rek Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11368 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Vic Rek Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11369 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings Plumer, Scott Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 05:31:37 -0500 >Subject: Re: Dream Collector with KILLER news >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > >>>No, I'm not going to post all this info here. [. . .] >>Why not? If the tracklist for E. ORGY could get posted, what's >>stopping you? ;) > >But I already did, my friend! [. . .] Huh?!? Where? When? >[. . .] Yes, I did type in the *tracklist* of Dream Collector....i.e. >an overview of what is inside the latest edition! [. . .] Oh, ba-RU-ther! :( ;) I meant the tracklist of the 25 albums, not the *contents* of the issue of DREAM COLLECTOR. Jeesh. >[. . .] I did *not* post the entire edition itself, just as nobody >posted the entire E. ORGY itself as MP3 file here! This, we know, and yet . . . SOMEONE *DID* POST THE ENTIRE TRACK LIST FOR E. ORGY. ^^^^^^^^^^ >[. . .] the reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or >not, the copyright Dream Collector has on this text! [. . .] This is dorky; I don't see how one can copyright the track listing of a record that is published/pressed by another company. Granted, it can be argued -- as it was by the producers of the book, VOICES IN THE DUNES -- that the precise *manner* in which the discographical data is arranged/ordered/listed can be copyrighted, but beyond *that*, gimmee a break! So, if DREAM COLLECTOR listed them as Track One, Track Two, and Track Three, list them as Track 1, Track 2, and Track 3, or as a, b, and c, or as 1.), 2.), and 3.). Get my point? I don't see what the problem is, fer chrissakes. >If all the info would appear here on tadream immediately, what interest >would they have in continuing to invest their time and money [. . .] It could be argued that the more the magazine's worth is proven, the more impetus folks would have to subscribe. >[. . .] (the subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover >postage and materials but not the time to produce it!). [. . .] What? It's $30 a year for four issues, isn't it? I can almost do better by subscribing to ROLLING STONE (which would get me, what--twelve issues a year, or it is more than that?)! >>>[. . .] And to make our mouths drool [. . .] >>And from what other bodily orifice, pray tell, might we drool, >>other than our mouths, might I ask? ;) > >Ahhmmm....don't know, but why don't you write your next posting in >German so I get to make fun of it? I didn't mean to imply that your English as a non-native speaker was substandard anything like that; I was just having fun with the possibilities created by imagining what other body parts might be involved in drooling. At a French restaurant where I worked, we had fun referring to the morney (sp???) sauce -- which is white and lumpy -- as 'fresh squeezed,' 'cock lava,' and 'man chowder.' Personally, I found it funny. Yes, it's gross, but it was funny at the time. Sorry. >Hilmar -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11330 Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR Lars R. Jones Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11340 Re: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR DAVENTURA@a... Tue 2/24/1998 2 KB 11345 Re: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR TangerineC@a... Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 2:28 am Subject: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> OK I'm not going to print the cd list either because, as a DC subscriber, I do want to support their efforts; but I will tell you this (followed by a short plug on how to subscribe); don't get your hopes up about these 25 cds. as far as I can tell 13 are previously released albums; 5 are about to be released; 2 are unreleased OST comps; 2 are unreleased studio material comps (covering 70-82 & 83-97); 2 are concerts (1 of which exists commonly on boots/tapes); 1 is a live compilation; 1 is an 83 concert (not the greatest year for live material since much of what was played was poland-ish, logos-ish etc...) so, that's the bad news; the good news is that the tape trees will still be around to provide that new-music fix the rest of this year... here's how to subscribe to dream collector: 30DM or $20 US in cash or 33DM by euro cheque or IMO; this covers 12 issues in europe or 8 issues overseas. send to Rolf Sonnemann, Am Silbersegen 4, 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, Germany questions: contact Peter.Stoeferle@t... this is the source for you collectors and wanna-knows; there's lots more info here than ever makes it onto the list... lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 3:07 am Subject: Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 02:11 PM 2/23/1998 -0500, Sean wrote: >Just when I thought I had uncovered all of the cool CD shops in the >Toronto area, I uncovered yet another last month. It had escaped my So, Sean, friend, old buddy, chum....are you going to keep us in suspense or actually tell us the name of the store. What? >Speaking of which, I snagged a copy of Pickford's 'Works II - Live >at Derby Hall' album. This is the first time I've had a chance to hear >a Pickford album...and well, I can certainly see why people >complaining about 'TD's current direction' have been encouraged to check 'Works I' may be even better, IMHO, especially if you like a bit of beat with your listening pleasure. > >And hey...that looks like Andy's actual signature on the disk...did he >sign *all* of them? Sho' did...on 'Works I' he used a ball point pen on the paper label, so you can feel the groove the pen left on the surface. The signatures on the two disks are identical. BTW, so that folks around here don't get bent out of shape, you may want to take your non-TD interests to the GoldTri list. Just send a message to: majordomo@a... with the note (in the body of the message) subscribe goldtri your@e... If it tickles your fancy, of course. Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11352 Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 23, 1998 8:51 pm Subject: Dream Mixes 1-2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Alan Mitchell I know this has been covered, but I can't find it in back Digests. I have Dream Mixes, the single US CD on Mirarmar. I'm told the European version of Dream Mixes was 2 CDs. Is 'Times Square' the second CD of that set or a completely new CD? If not, any suggestions as to where to order Dream Mixes 2 CD set and Times Square? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11338 Re: Dream Mixes 1-2? Colin Knowles Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11359 Re: Dream Mixes 1-2? TWeibre361@a... Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 3:09 am Subject: Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 09:27 PM 2/23/1998 +0100, Yense wrote: >> >>And hey...that looks like Andy's actual signature on the disk...did he >>sign *all* of them? > >Nope. So who did? :-(( Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:11 am Subject: Re: Radio Eins*Electrobeats ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >> If it was, why would they call it Dresden? I seem to > remember a > >> date at the Hygienemuseum, but my book only shows one date in > Dresden, > >> in 1983, and of course my book is the final authority on all > TD > >> concerts. :-) Might it have been in Voices? > >> > > >Now Scott, you don't have this CD do you? That would be > a....er....a > >bootleg? ;-) > > No way! Tape! > > Scott Ahh...a tape bootleg instead of a CD bootleg. Heh heh. Tomato, tomahto. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:51 am Subject: SF Rant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Steven Feldman OK, here's another ranting SF post. I'll try to put out the fire. Sorry Steve, well not really. >SOMEONE *DID* POST THE ENTIRE TRACK LIST FOR E. ORGY. > ^^^^^^^^^^ >>[. . .] the reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or >>not, the copyright Dream Collector has on this text! [. . .] > > This is dorky; I don't see how one can copyright the track listing >of a record that is published/pressed by another company. Granted, it >can be argued -- as it was by the producers of the book, VOICES IN THE >DUNES -- that the precise *manner* in which the discographical data is [...] Respect your fellow fan publications. >>If all the info would appear here on tadream immediately, what interest >>would they have in continuing to invest their time and money [. . .] > > It could be argued that the more the magazine's worth is proven, the >more impetus folks would have to subscribe. Do you subscribe to this? You ALWAYS YELL when someone thinks that this list is the authority because it's a cyberspace place. You always argue for the non-Internet folks. So what about those non-Internet TD fans - this is precisely where they get their up-to-date info. And as you once said 'some of them are the most intense!' > >>[. . .] (the subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover >>postage and materials but not the time to produce it!). [. . .] > > What? It's $30 a year for four issues, isn't it? I can almost do >better by subscribing to ROLLING STONE (which would get me, what--twelve >issues a year, or it is more than that?)! WRONG! Where did you get your facts from? If you want to subscribe, contact me off list. No, I will not send you a copy of the magazine. But I may have a bootleg laying around somewhere (just one and my LAST ONE may I add) ;-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 5:59 am Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #201 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Anthony G. Francis, Jr.' Just picked up 'Ambient Monkeys' and 'Dream Mixes II: TimeSquare'. I have to say I like TimeSquare on many levels, but haven't really warmed to AM. Of course, AM *is* just a tape of ambient music TD played before concerts, so criticism is perhaps unwarranted. TimeSquare and the remix of 'Toward the Evening Star' are quite nice, however... -Anthony -- Anthony G. Francis, Jr. | cen.taur \'sen-.to.(*)r\ n AI/Cognitive Science Group | [ME, fr. L Centaurus, fr. Gk Kentauros] College of Computing | 1: one of a race fabled to be half man Georgia Institute of Technology | and half horse and to dwell in the Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0280 | mountains of Thessaly. Phone: (404) 894-2590 | 2: nickname for this AI grad student Net: centaur@c... - http://www.cc.gatech.edu/ai/students/centaur/ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 9:44 am Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi people The tree structure for this show is ready and hopefully running. Since there are a more persons interested, maybe you could organize a complimentary tree. As soon as I get the copy I'm willing to provide the seed. Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 10:29 am Subject: Re: Dream Mixes 1-2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Alan Mitchell > > I know this has been covered, but I can't find it in back Digests. I > have Dream Mixes, the single US CD on Mirarmar. I'm told the European > version of Dream Mixes was 2 CDs. Is 'Times Square' the second CD of > that set or a completely new CD? If not, any suggestions as to where to > order Dream Mixes 2 CD set and Times Square? No. The 2nd DM CD is not Timesquare. It contains additional mixes of Touchwood, Little Blond and Catwalk, along with another couple of new tracks. As for ordering..I don't do that much CD ordering so can't help you there.. Then again try Super Collector, they seem to most things (allegedly!). Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 10:53 am Subject: Just Wondering... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... Who the Hell is Andy Pickford? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11341 Re: Just Wondering... Colin Knowles Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11342 Re: Just Wondering... jpeschke@s... Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11344 Re: Just Wondering... Colin Knowles Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11346 Re: Just Wondering... Colin Knowles Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 10:56 am Subject: Re: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 03:42:16 EST, you write: << 30DM or $20 US in cash or 33DM by euro cheque or IMO; this covers 12 issues in europe or 8 issues overseas. >> Why is it that I get burned for 4 issues? Postage? Just wondering....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 12:48 pm Subject: Re: Just Wondering... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > Who the Hell is Andy Pickford? Got me... Colin n.p. Ozzie Ozburne- Bark at the Moon From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 12:56 pm Subject: Re: Just Wondering... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Really from Colin Knowles >> Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... >> >> Who the Hell is Andy Pickford? >Got me... Andy Pickford is one of the highly overlooked EM artists. As many stunning acts he is British. Guess you don´t know Ian Boddy, Mark Shreeve, Airsculpture, rmi, Paul Lawler, T-Bass UK, Paul Nagle, Asana et all too ? There´re a lot more interesting new acts from the UK and other European countries (esp. The Netherlands & Germany) as well. ob: TD: Content - well it´s quite easy to release better (1) stuff than TD in the 90s. (1) IMO, more innovative, musically better. Captain Edgar - the axe swinging norseman - would even sell more copies of raw electronic screw driver effects than any of the mentioned artists, sadly but true. I for one rate TD´s output of the 90s not that low, but there´s almost nothing that really kicks me. DM I+II are nice but neither innovative nor ass kicking, IMO. Too sweetish. TD isn´t the innovative leader of the EM movement anymore, nor any other of the big names. Poland was their lastest innovative album, IMO. The track *Poland* is a blue print of Ambient House... Cheers Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Stephen, Frank' Could somebody please send me the following digests: 199, 200 and 201. We had a major server crash and I missed these volumes. thanks. Frank From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 2:21 pm Subject: Re: Just Wondering... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: jpeschke@s... > > Guess you don´t know Ian Boddy, Mark Shreeve, Airsculpture, > rmi, Paul Lawler, T-Bass UK, Paul Nagle, Asana et all too ? Err..Nope, never heard of any off them. Slight lie: I've heard Mark Shreeve's name banded about a few times (he's the one that wrote of Td yes?) but not heard any off his music. Are they easy to get hold off or do they need serious searching for? Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 2:53 pm Subject: Re: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC@a... Exactly Steve! If the titles are copywrited, then we are all guilty of infringment. We are not asking to post any articles, just titles to songs. I guess the people on this list who have the list of tunes,have the atittude of superiority over us lowly peasants who cant afford $30 a year for four issues of a magazine that's probably thinner than toilet tissue. Oh well. Tom In a message dated 98-02-23 19:09:46 EST, you write: << This is dorky; I don't see how one can copyright the track listing of a record that is published/pressed by another company. Granted, it can be argued -- as it was by the producers of the book, VOICES IN THE DUNES -- that the precise *manner* in which the discographical data is arranged/ordered/listed can be copyrighted, but beyond *that*, gimmee a break! So, if DREAM COLLECTOR listed them as Track One, Track Two, and Track Three, list them as Track 1, Track 2, and Track 3, or as a, b, and c, or as 1.), 2.), and 3.). Get my point? I don't see what the problem is, fer chrissakes. >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 2:24 pm Subject: Re: Just Wondering... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Really-From: Colin Knowles >> Really-From: jpeschke@s... >> >> Guess you don´t know Ian Boddy, Mark Shreeve, Airsculpture, >> rmi, Paul Lawler, T-Bass UK, Paul Nagle, Asana et all too ? >Are they easy to get hold off or do they need serious searching for? You should use a mailorder company instead of searching them in shops - if not living in a city like London. A good source is Synth Music Direct (SMD), PO Box 152, Nottingham, NG9 7DX, England. There´s are offering an internet membership and lots of reviews on their web page (huh, it´s in my favourites at home, I´m afraid) as well. I´ve forgotten to mention Node, btw. Most fans of late 70´s TD loves their stuff. Almost scary analogue stuff, one EP is recorded live at Paddington Station, a stonker as some Brits tend to say... Cheers Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 3:18 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' I do this rant every few months. Please bear with me. > You *OWN NO BOOTS*?!? What do you do when there's three inches of No TD boots. I have some Floyd & Genesis boots, but those were purchased before I saw the light, and are of filthy-rich rock stars. > Yes, I actually have a bootleg cassette. What does that say, then, >about all your on-cassette 'live recordings'? Do you differentiate the >live tapes YOU have from Bootleg Cassettes on the basis that your tapes >weren't *bought* from a used record store and/or bootlegger, or on the >basis that the tapes you have don't have snazzy graphics produced by >parties expressedly intent on charging for their tapes? Yes, I do differentiate. Say, for example, you made me a tape copy of Staategrenze. I wouldn't have to buy it (assuming I could actually _find_ it!) and thus deprive the bootlegger of a sale, no? It's the equivalent of home taping of albums: don't buy it, tape your friend's copy. Two other bands I collect tapes of, Grateful Dead and Phish, allow taping of their concerts but vigorously pursue for-profit bootleggers. They'd be fools to think that no one who tapes them makes bootlegs, but allowing taping effectively shrinks the market for bootlegs. Plus, many of the best shows never make it to boots, and if they do, the show is often not complete. > I'm just trying to say that an 'unauthorized tape' (nobody got our >buddy Edgar's permission to release any of them, did they?) is not >inherently different from a bootleg. I beg to differ. Fan tapes don't profit from TD's efforts or name. > Sorry to be a wet blanket by implying that a book you are connected >to is essentially a guide to bootleg tapes, but hey, if the shoe (or >sandal or pump or sneaker, or . . . boot?) fits, what can I say? Absolutely true. And in the revised edition, I make the distinction between boots, fan tapes and pirates. I don't disagree with the original philosphy behind boots - bringing previously unavailalbe music to the fans. In the '70s, when I first started buying boots, they were truly labors of love. They had real artwork, not just some picture lifted from the 'net or from a legit source and an effort was made to get the best quality. Now, at least with bigger-name bands, I think they're only in it for the money. I've heard several that were mastered from the LP's! I have a Floyd CD boot from '75 that has a picture of Syd Barrett on it! Plus they cut between the songs! I've seen a lot that have just a picture scanned from a book (page numbers and all) or some garish concoction made by some teenager with a PC who's had too much Jolt Cola. I long for the days when an artist actually put oen to paper. I must say, though, that TD boots, what little I've been exposed to, are generally much better than the average boot. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11350 Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings feldon@p... Tue 2/24/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:26 pm Subject: Are We Having Fun Yet? +ADwAIQ-DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC +ACI--//W3C//DTD W3 HTML//EN+ACIAPg- +ADw-HTML+AD4- +ADw-HEAD+AD4- +ADw-META content+AD0AIg-text/html+ADs- charset+AD0-utf-7+ACI- http-equiv+AD0-Content-Type+AD4- +ADw-META content+AD0-'+ACI-MSHTML 4.72.2106.6+ACI-' name+AD0-GENERATOR+AD4- +ADw-/HEAD+AD4- +ADw-BODY bgColor+AD0AIw-ffffff+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4-It is so nice to have all the bitchiness back on the list+ADs- I was getting cold........FLAME ON+ACEAPA-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4-Nice to see you back and in such good voice Dano. +ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4-Thanx for duh laffs guyz.+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4APA-/FONT+AD4AJg-nbsp+ADsAPA-/DIV+AD4- +ADw-DIV+AD4APA-FONT color+AD0AIw-000000+AD4-bill2+ADw-/FONT+AD4APA-/DIV+AD4APA-/BODY+AD4APA-/HTML+AD4- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11408 Re: Are We Having Fun Yet? Lawry Simm Wed 2/25/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 3:56 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... OK, Scott, so what exactly was YOUR point? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:19 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... > Say, for example, you made me a tape >copy of Staategrenze. I wouldn't have to buy it (assuming I could >actually _find_ it!) and thus deprive the bootlegger of a sale, no? It's >the equivalent of home taping of albums: don't buy it, tape your >friend's copy. > I must say, though, that TD boots, what little I've been exposed >to, are generally much better than the average boot. > > Scott I am truly surprised that people still think TD bootleggers are in this to make money... Sure, 'Rare Trax' is a money making scam... but that is the exception. And with the rumors flying around that Herr Froese actually assisted in the process of Logotypes being made, I'm certainly not gonna lose any sleep over buying a $25 disc (or whatever it costs) since I have supported the band as much as anyone else on this list with official purchases. I've never understood the concept that bootleggers hurt the industry... Especially since bootleg CDs almost always cost twice what the official releases cost. It's just that musicians need to realize that when they perform live, the energy and the rawness of it translates better to CD than a 'perfect, refined Studio recording'. I have gone to a couple concerts.. Clarence Gapemouth Brown and Arlo Guthrie to name a couple that sounded infinately better live than anything they have released. Electronic Orgy, since it is produced in such small quantity, seems to be done for cost or pretty close to it. I have no qualms about buying TD bootleg albums or any other artist for that matter *AFTER I have purchased all their official releases worth buying*. And as for fantapes, I'll take a CD over a tape any day. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 23:50:09 -0000 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > > First, let's deal with the low points. There are two weak links on this > album IMHO, and for a 90's TD album, that isn't bad at all. The first is > Cedar Breaks. Don't get me wrong here. I think the track is really > pleasant, with it's slow moving string sounds, but it's precisely that. > Slow moving. In fact, so slow that the track doesn't actually lead > anywhere. It's 5 minutes of wasted space, quite out of keeping with the > rest of the album. That's precisely what I find pleasant about it. I think it's wrong to say it's not going anywhere...it's just taking a few steps backwards and forwards, staying in the same place, but still being in motion. It can be nice to strioll around for a change, looking about reflectively, and not _having_ to go anywhere... Anyone know what I mean? Dennis Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11355 Re: D: Oasis Sean Montgomery Tue 2/24/1998 3 KB 11383 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:21 pm Subject: Re: Andy Pickford - Finally! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >Just when I thought I had uncovered all of the cool CD shops in the > >Toronto area, I uncovered yet another last month. > > So, Sean, friend, old buddy, chum....are you going to keep us in suspense > or actually tell us the name of the store. What? It's called Seekers, and is on Bloor Street in the Annex, right around Dooney's. > 'Works I' may be even better, IMHO, especially if you like a bit of beat > with your listening pleasure. Ah yes....if you can still find one! I understand that there are only 500 of them! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:26 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:49:35 +0000 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > > I don't undertand people here. > There was a guy organizung a tree to distribute this radio show and > aswered less than eigth persons.... > > just amazed, you know... > > Francisco Bad experiences with tape trees? As far as I remember, at least the US version of the last tree went seriously wrong. And then of course, there's loads of technical jargon in the usually not very brief how-to-use-our-tape-tree posts; something like 'and then all you need to do is to take your CD-R burner and...' As if we all had a CD-R burner! I never had the impression that you could aspire to take part in the tree if you haven't even got a double tape deck to your name. Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:32 pm Subject: D: World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur Apart from the nice CD design and the collector's value, nothing too special really. People on this list have been enthusiastic at times about the 'Order of the Ginger Guild' track and mentioned parallels to 'Convention of the 24'. I for myself have not found any similarities between the two, and wouldn't play OotGG at all if it weren't a habit of mine not to skip tracks. The two re-mixes are quite well done, and the second version especially is very well done and wouldn't be misplaced on the Dream Mixes...mostly, though, I like this CD due to fond memories of a good TD concert. Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 4:57 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > First, let's deal with the low points.... The first is > > Cedar Breaks....Slow moving. In fact, so slow that the track doesn't > > actually lead anywhere. > > That's precisely what I find pleasant about it. I think > it's wrong to say it's not going anywhere...it's just > taking a few steps backwards and forwards...Anyone know what I mean? I do. After all the scorn that had been heaped upon this track by early reviews, I was prepared for the worst, but it turned out to be quite pretty...somewhere between 'Sudden Revelation' and, say, 'Mysterious Sembalance and the Strand of Nightmares'. Okay, it's no classic. It's nowhere close to 'Flashflood'...or 'Zion', for that matter. But calling it the worst TD track ever is a bit harsh! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11383 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 5:00 pm Subject: RE: Pickford Works Vol I & II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' (Crossposted to the GoldTri list, where Mr. Pickford is more on-subject. Come join us, if you want a wider view...) I checked my copies of the Works series and while the Vol. II CD seems to have been signed with a permanent marker, the Vol. I is clearly silk-screened. I did read that there were two different covers for the Vol. I CD ( I have the b&w, more common cover art). Vol. I is pretty much TERRAFORMER in a live setting. Vol. II is a bit more varied in the releases that the material was taken from. Now that your appetite has been whetted, go snag MAELSTROM, his magnum opus. XENOMORPH ain't bad either, especially the studio version of 'Solitude's Shadow'. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Craig Shipley craigs@s... Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc. 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE Suite 400 Atlanta, Georgia 30342 (404) 845-3404 Corporate Voice Mail (800) 333-5754 x-2023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Lars is Right; I'll Subscribe to DREAM COLLECTOR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 21:28:36 -0500 >Subject: Re: Track List of 25 TD CDs in DREAM COLLECTOR >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Lars R. Jones <105411.3107@c...> > >don't get your hopes up about these 25 cds. as far as I can tell 13 are >previously released albums [. . .] Huh?!? I don't get it. How they call an already-issued album a 'new' CD? (Am I being dense again?) >here's how to subscribe to dream collector: >30DM or $20 US in cash or 33DM by euro cheque or IMO; >this covers 12 issues in europe or 8 issues overseas. $20 for 8 issues of an *overseas* magazine? And I haven't been a subscriber all along?!? Fuck!!! :( I had assumed that since it was from overseas, it would cost more like $40. I never subbed to TDIFC because I thought $30 was a rip for four issues (I think it was just 4 issues, anyways). Okay, I confess, maybe I'm even confusing TDIFC with BEYOND THE HORIZON. X-0 (Okay, so I can be a real lame-o sometimes.) >send to Rolf Sonnemann, Am Silbersegen 4, 38678 Clausthal-Zellerfeld, >Germany >questions: contact Peter.Stoeferle@t... Will do. Thanks for the info. I'll have to ask him about back- issues, too. >this is the source for you collectors and wanna-knows; there's lots more >info here than ever makes it onto the list... I can't wait. I imagine it to be a TD-only version of DREAMS WORD, and that is a very tantalizing thing! :) >lars Thanks for clearing this up for me, Lars. I'll subscribe tomorrow. Everybody else: sorry about badmouthing DREAM COLLECTOR by saying that it was too expensive. I take it all back and humbly apologize. I have seen the error of my ways. I'm serious. Steven Feldman ^ ^ ^ SUBSCRIBED TO: Space Music, ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ________ ^ ^ 33 Brook St #3 ^ ^ ^ Tadream, CNI News, P.E.E.R. ^ ^ ^ __--- ---_ Brookline Mass ^ ^ ^ Perspectives, The MUFON UFO ^ ^ - _ \ 02146-6913 USA ^ ^ ^ Journal, the Nausicaa list, ^ ^ | /_/ \ | (617) 232-3876 ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ and Nutrition News. ^ ^_- __/_// __ |/ BITNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ - (|/ '()` <()/ ^ INTERNET: ar402004@b... ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ \_ O .> | ^ HAYAO MIYAZAKI DISCUSSION GROUP: nausicaa@b... ^ /--_/ -__ -- / ^ <*> Address for subscribing: listserv@b... <*> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ --- ^ ^ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: SF: Caught with His Foot in His Mouth Again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 23:51:56 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: SF Rant >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Vic Rek > >>>[. . .] (the subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover >>>postage and materials but not the time to produce it!). [. . .] >> >> What? It's $30 a year for four issues, isn't it? I can almost do >>better by subscribing to ROLLING STONE (which would get me, what--twelve >>issues a year, or it is more than that?)! > >WRONG! Where did you get your facts from? Fuzzy memory. I'm guilty. I confess. I repent. I'll subscribe to DREAM COLLECTOR post haste. My thanks to you both, Vic and Lars! >If you want to subscribe, contact me off list. [. . .] Will do. Thanks. -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:02 pm Subject: Re: Dream Mixes 1-2? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 05:34:38 EST, you write: << No. The 2nd DM CD is not Timesquare. It contains additional mixes of Touchwood, Little Blond and Catwalk, along with another couple of new tracks. As for ordering..I don't do that much CD ordering so can't help you there.. Then again try Super Collector, they seem to most things (allegedly!). >> try the above first, and if that fails go to cdnow and/or ab-cd...they got em.... tom w np: orbital live 1994 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:23 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >OK, Scott, so what exactly was YOUR point? Fan tapes help the artist, bootlegs rip off the artist. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:19 pm Subject: Re: Lars...[Subscribe to] DREAM COLLECTOR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >this is the source for you collectors and wanna-knows; there's lots more > >info here than ever makes it onto the list... > > I can't wait. I imagine it to be a TD-only version of DREAMS WORD, ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Now *there's* a blast from the past...the *final* issue never even made it into the mailboxes of subscribers. (No, Elana, this is not a slam, it's simply a *remark.*) E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11387 Re: Lars...[Subscribe to] DREAM COLLECTOR. DJS Wed 2/25/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:20 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 11:19:28 EST, you write: << And as for fantapes, I'll take a CD over a tape any day. >> so ull spend 25 bucks for the cd of my master tape? sounds illogical... tom w np: essence of ambient From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:24 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 11:31:34 EST, you write: << I never had the impression that you could aspire to take part in the tree if you haven't even got a double tape deck to your name. >> u can take part in the current 6,000+ minute tape tree even if u dont have a deck! would be illogical also, but hey, who am i to psychoanalyze... sp: essence of ambient (disc 3) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11405 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Francisco Salgado C. Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11412 Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's TWeibre361 Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 7:07 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > How would the musicians who contributed to Network 388 feel if I made > CD's of that and sold them? Isn't that more like pirating than bootlegging?? (and I would not be too happy if ya did that! :-) ) Dave B. (had to get my two cents in while I had a little time...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 7:59 am Subject: Thanks abound ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Stephen, Frank' Thanks to all those for sending vol 199, 200 and 201. Frank From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: German REPEAT REPEAT LP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, I bought a German pressing of Peter Baumann's REPEAT REPAT album (for $1.00!) yesterday, and noticed two differences from its American- issued counterpart: o instead of a green border on the front and back cover, there is a purple cover o after about the third track, the rest of the tracks on the album are in a different order. Is this in this list's Discography? (I don't know how to access a recent copy of said discography since I'm not sure if its at an FTP site anymore. Is it?) Do *you* know about and/or have this pressing of this album, Vic? -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unidentified flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts the Air Force has silenced it personnel.' --Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the 1st director of the CIA, quoted in THE NEW YORK TIMES, February 28, 1960. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11434 Re: German REPEAT REPEAT LP Vic Rek Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 8:51 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >OK, Scott, so what exactly was YOUR point? > Fan tapes help the artist, bootlegs rip off the artist. All of this really amuses me since I recently saw a TD live tape (as in cassette) at a record show selling for $20, and I think it was from the Optical Race tour or later ;-) So maybe we should simplify Scott's statement to: 'Fans help the artist, bootleggers rip off the artist'. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 8:56 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Dave Brewer > > > Quoted From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > How would the musicians who contributed to Network 388 feel if I made > > CD's of that and sold them? > > Isn't that more like pirating than bootlegging?? (and I would not be too > happy if ya did that! :-) ) Hey Dave, but I'm sure you wouldn't mind if someone sold the Network 388 cassettes instead of the CD, now would you? ;-) Vic (who just couldn't resist making a 'smart' comment) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 6:35 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I am truly surprised that people still think TD bootleggers are in this to >make money... Sure, 'Rare Trax' is a money making scam... but that is the >exception. TD and the small-following bands are the exception: they truly are labors of love. It's the big bands like Pink Floyd, et al. Where people make boots to make money. >I've never understood the concept that bootleggers hurt the industry... They don't hurt the industry, but they profit from an artist's efforts and reputation. Granted, record companies, people who wrote books about them, ad infinitum have also profited, but that's part of the business that artists knew about when they signed their contracts. How would the musicians who contributed to Network 388 feel if I made CD's of that and sold them? >Especially since bootleg CDs almost always cost twice what the official >releases cost. It's just that musicians need to realize that when they But that's only since CD boots came out. LP boots typically cost LESS than regular release LP's. I remember buying boots for $5 for a single LP, and buying LP's in the store for $6.50 to $7. >perform live, the energy and the rawness of it translates better to CD than >a 'perfect, refined Studio recording'. I have gone to a couple concerts.. >Clarence Gapemouth Brown and Arlo Guthrie to name a couple that sounded >infinately better live than anything they have released. Some enlightened bands have, and thus allow taping. >Electronic Orgy, since it is produced in such small quantity, seems to be >done for cost or pretty close to it. I have no qualms about buying TD >bootleg albums or any other artist for that matter *AFTER I have purchased >all their official releases worth buying*. And as for fantapes, I'll take a >CD over a tape any day. My biggest qualm with boots is the cost. $20 for a single disc is way too much. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: Dream Collector info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hello Tadreamers, I admit that I am quite astonished and also a little bit proud that an article in 'Dream Collector' on forthcoming TD releases caused that much sensation... Thanks to all those who have already sent some lines about the role of our newsletter to the Tadream Mailing List...: Hilmar, Vic, Lars... However, I fell some questions are still left and I'll try to answer them in summarized form: > Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > > > And at least my message did contain *some* useful info, if you want more, > > contact the DC guys. > > For What It's Worth..... > > I, for one, would be most pleased to subscribe to DC and be able to get the > information. However, after a month of E-mails to them I still can't get > the information necessary to subscribe. > > I don't know if that's a complaint, but it sure is a frustration. If this happened, it must have been a fault and I am sorry for that. If anybody out there had made a similar experience, please drop me a line. > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > > (...) > > How can you subscribe, then? Anybody who is interested in subscribing 'Dream Collector' should please drop a line to my e-Mail-address: ---> peter.stoeferle@t... I will answer all inquiries as soon as possible, and I have a 5 KB info about our newsletter available, including a subscription form. Feel free to ask. > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > Oh, ba-RU-ther! :( ;) I meant the tracklist of the 25 albums, not the > *contents* of the issue of DREAM COLLECTOR. Jeesh. We have not published the track listing of the 25 CDs - it is not known yet. We only mentioned the album titles and the origin of the recordings (re-release, soundtrack, release of previously unknown material and so on...) > > the reason why I don't type it in or scan it is...believe it or > >not, the copyright Dream Collector has on this text! [. . .] > > This is dorky; I don't see how one can copyright the track listing > of a record that is published/pressed by another company. Granted, it > can be argued -- as it was by the producers of the book, VOICES IN THE > DUNES -- Dorky... not a compliment?!? - By the way, the publishers of 'Dream Collector' and 'Voices in the dunes' are widely identical... > It could be argued that the more the magazine's worth is proven, the > more impetus folks would have to subscribe. And it could be argued that in the end we produce *one* copy of the newsletter will be enough and all the information included there will be distributed by one fan to dozens of fans, by dozens of fans to hundreds... Would it then make sense to continue our efforts? > > [. . .] (the subscription fee is so small it can surely only cover > > postage and materials but not the time to produce it!). [. . .] > > What? It's $30 a year for four issues, isn't it? I can almost do > better by subscribing to ROLLING STONE (which would get me, what--twelve > issues a year, or it is more than that?)! $30 is for *twelve* issues (in Europe) or *eight* issues (overseas, due to higher potal charges) of the newsletter. However, if you feel better informed about TD by 'Rolling Stone', you should of course prefer reading this. ;-) (I read and like their magagazine, too, but if felt well-informed about TD by doing so, be sure I would not have been the editor of a fanzine / newsletter since August, 1992...) Peter --------------------------- Peter Stoeferle Dream Collector newsletter peter.stoeferle@t... --------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:41 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > Isn't Cedar Breaks the track where someone is throwing forks and and knives > down stairs? Uh, no, you're thinking of 'Hopi Mesa Heart'. (A track which I prefer to 'Zion', actually.) 'Cedar Breaks' is the one that sounds (to me) like the second coming of 'Mysterious Semblance....' > Morgan > feldon@p... > > Gabe real email address: remove the 'nospam' to get my real address. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legit Vinyl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 13:35:52 -0500 >Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Plumer, Scott > >[. . .] LP boots typically cost LESS than regular release LP's. [. . .] Are we talking about the same planet (said the guy who's read some dozen books on UFO abductions in the past two years), here?!? Since when? The only vinyl TD boot I have is THE FASSBINDER MEMORIAL 10', and I bought that the week it came out (about ten years ago) for $12. Now, where have you seen a brand-new 10' for as much as $12??? Where I come from, bootleg records nearly always cost almost exactly double the price of a non-boot record. >[. . .] I remember buying boots for $5 for a single LP, and buying >LP's in the store for $6.50 to $7. The *only* time I've ever seen a boot (vinyl or otherwise) sell for less than the of a legit boot is when the boot is used and/or in bad shape and/or of an artist that is out of or never was in favor with the general buying public (or at least the store in which said boot has been marked-down so noticeably). For example, I suspect that boots for, say, REO Speedwagon and Whitney Houston don't fetch top dollar in some spots. >[. . .] I have no qualms about buying TD bootleg albums or any other >artist for that matter *AFTER I have purchased all their official >releases worth buying*. [. . .] Feh. I used to have five Led Zep albums, but I paid someone at a record shop to tape a vinyl boot of Led Zep for me (this shop did this as a matter of course: they actually advertised that they copied boots onto tape) because it was better than most legit Led Zep albums--legit or otherwise. Besides, I buy used CDs and promo CDs all the time. The artist never makes a cent on either of these transactions. Do I feel bad about it? No; I don't have much money, and when necessary, my money goes to the very same band(s) that I buy used and promo items from in the first place. > My biggest qualm with boots is the cost. $20 for a single disc is >way too much. I paid $18 for DESTINATION BERLIN on *vinyl* when it came out. I paid $18 for a copy of SHEPERDS BUSH (and there are only *two* songs on it that total less than 15 minutes, remember). I paid $23 for ZONING, and that's because I had a $3.00-off coupon and the clerk gave me an additional $2.00 off because he felt sorry for me spending so much for a single CD. I paid close to $50 for my copy of the TDI Ltd. Ed. of THE KEEP. I paid about $25 each for AMBIENT MONKEYS and TIMESQUARE. And here you're crying about $20 for a single-disc boot?!? Pardon me if I groan. I guess you *weren'* kidding when you said you don't own any boots. Try buying a bootleg CD-R sometime and seeing how much *that* runs you! (I realize that not all bootleg CD-Rs are exorbitantly priced, but some are far from cheap. Myself, I'll settle for a copy of a boot CD-R, or a copy of a copy, or a copy of a copy of a copy if need be--as long as step down had a CD or CD-R as its source.) -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11374 Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legi Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11386 Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legi matt knudson Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11396 Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legi Sean Montgomery Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11395 Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legi Plumer, Scott Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 8:33 am Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > say The Keep, then I have no problem if someone releases an unlicensed > copy. Usually the case is: > > It will never get released because the masters are lost. But why did you eat the Streethawk DATs? > It will never get released because no one gives a damn in the first > place. Hey, I care that Laser Blast will be released, haha! > It will never get released because some fatass producer won't give up > the rights because he's a greedy assface. Don't say that about Edgar! He's kept himself in good shape, haha! > It will never get released because the artist thinks it sucks (can we > say, Horner's Battle Beyond The Stars?) Too bad that wasn't the case with ZONING or GC... > It will never get released because it was live and no one recorded it > professionally! That's what TD would like us to think, haha! Those weiners! > So, IMO, release it, sell it if you want to, and if you don't like > it....don't buy it. My life's to short to go without hearing music such ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ In *full* agreement, there.... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:56 am Subject: Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legit Vinyl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > from, bootleg records nearly always cost almost exactly double the price > of a non-boot record. I agree...CDs are even more, but we fans gotta have the music, haha! > > My biggest qualm with boots is the cost. $20 for a single disc is > >way too much. > > I paid $18 for DESTINATION BERLIN on *vinyl* when it came out. I > paid $18 for a copy of SHEPERDS BUSH (and there are only *two* songs on > it that total less than 15 minutes, remember). I paid $23 for ZONING, > and that's because I had a $3.00-off coupon and the clerk gave me an > additional $2.00 off because he felt sorry for me spending so much for > a single CD. Gee-whiz, Steve! Where do you shop for discs at? Dan and I picked up ZONING for $15.99 at none other than Circuit City (and that cruddy release still wasn't worth the money! hahaha) > I paid close to $50 for my copy of the TDI Ltd. Ed. of THE KEEP. ^^^^^ That's why some of us settle for CDRs :-) [Addendum: You're missing out, Scott. By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can only be burned once. Not to mention CDR units cost some bucks, too....that's why I, unfortunately, am not able to own one.] E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 11:14 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > Isn't Cedar Breaks the track where someone is throwing forks and and knives > down stairs? > > Morgan > feldon@p... Heehee!! No that would be too exciting! Seriously, it's a single instrument track-- someone had said it was much like a solo mellotron work. I'm not sure I like the stringness of the instrument, I think if something else was used--it would have turned out better. Maybe Edgar is turning into a Classical composer? Greg H. np: Jet Moto 2 (Playstation) Soundtrack Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11379 Re: D: Oasis Gabe Yedid Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:38 am Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > >OK, Scott, so what exactly was YOUR point? > > Fan tapes help the artist, bootlegs rip off the artist. > > All of this really amuses me since I recently saw a TD live tape (as in > cassette) at a record show selling for $20, and I think it was from the > Optical Race tour or later ;-) So maybe we should simplify Scott's > statement to: > > 'Fans help the artist, bootleggers rip off the artist'. > > Vic Well, I like to classify bootlegs as something that has already been licensed and released also released by an unlicensed company. I also like to consider releases that are not licensed nor have they appeared in any form, pirated copies. If it's licensed...leave it alone. If it's never been released offically (especially after decades!!!), for example say The Keep, then I have no problem if someone releases an unlicensed copy. Usually the case is: It will never get released because the masters are lost. It will never get released because no one gives a damn in the first place. It will never get released because some fatass producer won't give up the rights because he's a greedy assface. It will never get released because the artist thinks it sucks (can we say, Horner's Battle Beyond The Stars?) It will never get released because it was live and no one recorded it professionally! So, IMO, release it, sell it if you want to, and if you don't like it....don't buy it. My life's to short to go without hearing music such as Excalibur, The Bounty, Blue Thunder, Logos Type, Electronic Orgy, Buckaroo Banzai, Day Of The Dead, etc, etc. Bottom line....who cares. It's not like any of these bands are really losing money to any extent that it matters....and it's not like anyone is getting rich selling bootlegs. If someone like Edgar cries about it then he needs to get off his nordic ass & release the stuff getting bootlegged. He's got enough money to release everything in his vaults (including the old viking hymns)....if only he'd stop trying to be so damn mysterious & just spill the crap he's got locked away. Hell, Street Hawk, unreleased concert she-ite, unreleased OST goodies....well Edgar? Stop crying and put that crap out....or let some of the soundtrack producers do it for you so you can sleep, do nothing and get richer! Cheers, (see Andy...I'm picking up your habits hehe) Dano np: Creepshow (Harrison) (Poor ol Jordi) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 11:37 pm Subject: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... N.P. The Alan Parsons Project...Tales of Mystery and Imagination Edgar Allan Poe Just wanted to let you guys know that I, for one, listen to other things than TD. This is the cool reissue with voice-overs by the late Orson Welles. Some fantastic music here....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11378 Re: Now Playing Colin Knowles Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11411 Re: Now Playing Michael Fox Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11568 Now Playing DAVENTURA Tue 3/3/1998 2 KB 11572 Re: Now Playing Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11575 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11589 Re: Now Playing Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11576 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11595 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11577 Re: Now Playing Greg Heil Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 10:49 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > N.P. The Alan Parsons Project...Tales of Mystery and Imagination Edgar Allan > Poe > > Just wanted to let you guys know that I, for one, listen to other things than > TD. This > is the cool reissue with voice-overs by the late Orson Welles. Some fantastic > music here....David You're not *the* only one! :-)) Agree with you about Tales though. Sounds even better, as does alot of TD, with 3 speakers! Colin n.p. Nothing...Can't decide between IQ's 'Subterranea' and Pallas's 'The Sentinal'.. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:46 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > > Heehee!! No that would be too exciting! > Seriously, it's a single instrument track-- > someone had said it was much like a > solo mellotron work. Well, there are some other sounds underneath it, the second time the main theme repeats, something like what I can best describe as some low-register electronic harp with some faint flute sounds mix in--which you can actually hear very prominently in the last 5 seconds. > I'm not sure I like the stringness of > > the instrument, I think if something > else was used--it would have turned > out better. > Maybe Edgar is turning into a Classical > composer? I would go so far as to suggest he always had those leanings. Think back to 'Epsilon'. Although, in terms of his recent offerings in this area, I don't know why it is he now seems to think that he needs to do this to be taken seriously. > Greg H. > np: a comparative listen between Eno's _The Drop_ and Bartok's 'Mikrokosmos' (vol. III-VI) Gabe real email address: remove the 'nospam' to get my real address. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 11:22 am Subject: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hilmar Kraft E-Man wrote: >By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can >only be burned once. No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! Hilmar Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11391 Re: Recordable CDs feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11402 Re: Recordable CDs DJS Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11406 Re: Recordable CDs Tom Gerardy Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11404 Re: Recordable CDs DJS Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11418 Re: Recordable CDs feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11409 Re: Recordable CDs Francisco Salgado C. Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11413 Re: Recordable CDs Marcel Engels Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB 11423 Re: Recordable CDs DAVENTURA@a... Thu 2/26/1998 2 KB 11431 Re: Recordable CDs DJS Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: Dream Collector info; correction ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hello Tadreamers, just discovered an error in the short info about 'Dream Collector' I sent to the Mailing List: Someone asked: > > What? It's $30 a year for four issues, isn't it? I can almost do > > better by subscribing to ROLLING STONE (which would get me, what--twelve > > issues a year, or it is more than that?)! I answered: > $30 is for *twelve* issues (in Europe) or *eight* issues (overseas, due to > higher potal charges) of the newsletter. ... This is not correct; I had just looked at the amount, not at the currency...: 'Dream Collector' costs 30 *DM* (German Marks) or $20 for twelve issues (in Europe) / eight issues (overseas). This is about the price of one CD for about one year of information. If you want more information about 'Dream Collector' or if you would like to subscribe, feel free to ask. Please e-mail me privately. Greetings Peter --------------------------- Peter Stoeferle Dream Collector newsletter peter.stoeferle@t... --------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 2:42 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 11:23:44 EST, you write:Dennis << It can be nice to strioll around for a change, looking about reflectively, and not _having_ to go anywhere... Anyone know what I mean? >> I, too, will defend Cedar Breaks. It happens to be my favorite on the entire album, but then I am partial to sweeter melody anyway like Elf June, Death of a Nightingale, etc. Besides this song is about trees isn't it? The don't exactly go roaring over cliffs or do any Indian dances. They just stand there, blowing in a slight breeze, smelling really good in the hot sun. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11385 Re: D: Oasis matt knudson Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11388 Re: D: Oasis AOutland@a... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11390 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11427 Re: D: Oasis Nigel Merrick Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11429 Re: D: Oasis Gabe Yedid Thu 2/26/1998 4 KB 11432 Re: D: Oasis Francisco Salgado C. Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11445 Re: D: Oasis Greg Heil Thu 2/26/1998 4 KB 11451 Re: D: Oasis Marcel Engels Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 10:12 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:57 AM 2/24/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >> > First, let's deal with the low points.... The first is >> > Cedar Breaks....Slow moving. In fact, so slow that the track doesn't >> > actually lead anywhere. >> >I do. After all the scorn that had been heaped upon this track by early >reviews, I was prepared for the worst, but it turned out to be quite >pretty...somewhere between 'Sudden Revelation' and, say, 'Mysterious >Sembalance and the Strand of Nightmares'. Isn't Cedar Breaks the track where someone is throwing forks and and knives down stairs? Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 11:50 am Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> I reaaaaaallllly tried not to get into this, honest >> morgan doth say: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>I've never understood the concept that bootleggers hurt the >>industry... >They don't hurt the industry, but they profit from an artist's >efforts and reputation. >> And as for fantapes, I'll take a >>CD over a tape any day. morgan, tom is right... where do you think most of those cd/cdr boots (like logostype) came from? (answer: tapes) and just how many of those cd/rs came from master fan tapes? (answer: not very many) sure, some are enhanced, sure sometimes people have added indexing etc. sure I don't have to worry about my son unwinding my favorite MC and flushing half of it... of course cd/rs are convenient... but the letters 'cd/r' are no guarantee of quality--especially at the price... and sometimes the material is fake or the discs have added noise or drop outs, etc just like with tape trading. whether you get tapes or cds, it's always best to find a trustworthy and an informed/connected source. >My biggest qualm with boots is the cost. $20 for a single disc >is way too much. -- scott, with all these latest td releases that have, in general, been priced up the wazoo (eg: well over $20 import); are you going to buy them or will you be hearing them on tapes??? ok, scott, so fess up, HOW MANY official TD releases do you have (or have you had) on tape? aren't those pirate copies? all that stuff on orgy, and you're saying you have it all in the legitimate original format?? don't those tape copies hurt the artist as well???? has a tape copy ever helped you decide NOT to buy an official album/cd etc?? if so, then you have to admit that tape trading hurts the musicians! part of my point is that to criticize EO is ridiculous... virtually all of that material is from limited release/out of print material. td already made their money on it once and the rest of it will probably never see the light of day... (unless it is on the other 9 cds that ef is hinting about releasing ;-) sure, on puritanical grounds (where this thread is really headed), buying anything other than what edgar chooses to spoon-feed us is morally wrong to some degree; the same argument could even be made about tape trading (I might disagree but it could be made). if you're going to criticize this stuff, then don't participate in it at any level (tapes, books, etc). your arguments just don't hold water for me and never have -- (sorry ) and how do you draw the line on second-hand bootlegs (eg collectibles?); I mean, the profit (if any!!) was already made by the bootlegger so you just can't seriously mean that buying one second hand or trading for it (like trading for a tape) takes money from EF's pocket?? moreover, you tend to lump all boots together as if they all had massive press runs and cut into ef's pocket... many of these things exist in runs of under 100 copies and are really about the same as fan tapes. In fact, there are plenty of boots out there which exist in smaller numbers than the average number of fan tapes for a particular show. I won't even go into the argument about edgar knowingly using bootleggers to release his material.... by participating in this, you are buying into the demand/taste for illegitimate works... maybe you didn't bootleg it, maybe you didn't buy it, but you'll trade something to whomever owns one for a copy of it and, in doing so (and in the strictest sense of definition) they've profited from it. If I paid $20 for a bootleg, and traded 10 tapes of it to 10 people in exchange for 10 other tapes, I'd say that was a handsome profit... for only $20 + the cost of 10 tapes, I've now got 11 new pieces of music... trading tapes might help td in some sense as promoting them but it also creates and drives the market for illegitimate recordings. it all depends on how you look at it. every one of those 50-100 td tapes that you have scott is, in essence, a commodity and they do have a certain intrinsic value that exceeds the cost of the tape itself; and every time you trade for another one, you're are accumulating wealth.... and I, of course, am not one to be throwing stones. (of course, we can both legitimize our interests as 'research' ;-) it's just like the art market; say the corner museum buys an illegitimately excavated greek bronze from lebanon and puts it on display. now you are really really into greek bronzes and there are hardly any at all still remaining from antiquity and you really want to see it. so you go to the museum, what the heck, you didn't steal it, you didn't sell it, and you didn't buy it, you just want to see the damn thing, that can't be bad... but the museum counts up all those people who came to see it and says, wow! that was really popular, we'll just have to buy some more stolen art, it really keeps those donations rolling in.... so the dealers encourage looters and thieves yatayatayatayatayatayata. maybe you thought that what you were doing was innocent but you've contributed to the taste for stolen art simply because you were being self-righteous and weren't aware that you actions could have other consequences .... I'm not arguing for or against tape trading but let's call a spade a spade, all of this stuff is on the legal fringes and maybe, with the new laws, they've put it just over the fringe.... if I'm going to argue anything, it is simply that fans deserve access to the music and that while I recognize the potential for damage to td exists, I think in td's case and in our case as hard core fans and collectors who have supported edgar for years, actual claims of damage can't really be justified. edgar knows how to get more of my money, and he's doing it. lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:08 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) Still looking for OASIS on laserdisc. From what I have heard, most of the footage of Oasis was filmed in my own state of UTAH! For the absolute fastest internet access on the planet, check out: www.interjetnet.net _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 1:09 pm Subject: Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legit Vinyl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) Talking about expensive boots, how about '70/90'? I paid more for that than I have paid for cd players. It was a dumb move, but it is a sweet cd! For the absolute fastest internet access on the planet, check out: www.interjetnet.net _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11396 Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legi Sean Montgomery Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:49 am Subject: Re: Lars...[Subscribe to] DREAM COLLECTOR. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > > >this is the source for you collectors and wanna-knows; there's lots more > > >info here than ever makes it onto the list... > > > > I can't wait. I imagine it to be a TD-only version of DREAMS WORD, > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Now *there's* a blast from the past...the *final* issue never even made it > into the mailboxes of subscribers. (No, Elana, this is not a slam, it's > simply a *remark.*) > > E-Man Well you know, she's just contributed so much to the electronic community I don't know what we'd all do without her, heh heh(sarcasm of course). Seriously, I've got a friend who did a newsletter for Babylon 5 for a while (called The B5 Sentinel) which he did a fantastic job publishing. The thing was, when he ran out of what he had wanted to say he ended it. Why can't these TD publication NL's do the same instead of ripping off the subscriber? I refuse to sub to any 'fan' NL mag anymore because the shipping schedules just never cut it, the content is lackluster and the truth is, how much can you write after a year or so about any band? It finally gets to the point where you're discussing what kind of sauce the members use on their chicken nuggets. The thing that also cramps fiercely is that they NEVER tell you when they bomb and go under. Hmm, did TDNAN tell anyone? Nope, they just sent Quinoa & called it even. Did Dreams Word say anything? Nope, they just ignored their subs & hoped they forgot about it. Yoiu can tell where the class begins...and where it ends. It all comes down to committment...and few are ready to cut it. Regards, Dan np: still Creepshow (Leslie can hold his breath....a looooong time) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:04 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-02-24 17:14:40 EST, you write: << Isn't Cedar Breaks the track where someone is throwing forks and and knives down stairs? Morgan feldon@p... >> No, I think that's Hopi Mesa Heart. I believe the raucus sound is meant to simulate the Indian dance which uses bells tied around the ankles of the dancers. Unfortunately, the song doesn't do justice to the actual rhythmic dance itself which I once saw at Disney World. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11390 Re: D: Oasis feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 2:27 pm Subject: Want Your Poster + Ticket!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Hi all As a collector of TD memorabilia, I keep tracking down items like used ticket stub and concert poster. If you have such unwanted items and are interested in any of the following (all CDs), contact me off list for a swap!! Greetings, Jeffrey Richard Burmer - On The Third Extreme (Gaia 13-9016-2, USA) Camel - A Compact Compilation (Rhino R2 75900, ?) David Wright - Ocean Watch (AD6CD, UK) Enya - How Can I Keep From Singing? (Single, WEA YZ635CD, Germany) Jean Michel Jarre - Oxygene 8 (Single, Epic 664074-5, Austria) Juno Reactor - Samurai (Hypnotic CLP 9807-2, US) Osamu Kitajima - FM Shrine (Epic ESJ 5049 2, HK) Neuronium - Alma (DRO 9D-489, Spain) Philip Glass & Foday Musa Suso - The Screens (Point Music, 432-966-2, Germany) Philip Glass - Music With Changing Parts (Elektra Nonesuch 79325-2, USA, NO cover i.e. disc only) Rush - Exit...Stage Left (Mercury 822 551-2 M-1, Germany, seriously scratched but playable) Steve Roach - Suspended Memories / Forgotton Gods (CDGLP 040, Mexico) Johannes Schmoelling - Wuivend Riet (Erdenklang IRS 971.160, Germany) TD - Thief (Virgin Tand12, Holland) Terry Riley - A Rainbow In Curved Air (Columbia 477849 2, US) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 2:57 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 10:04 PM 2/24/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: AOutland@a... > >In a message dated 98-02-24 17:14:40 EST, you write: > ><< Isn't Cedar Breaks the track where someone is throwing forks and and knives > down stairs? > > Morgan > feldon@p... > >> > No, I think that's Hopi Mesa Heart. I believe the raucus sound is meant >to simulate the Indian dance which uses bells tied around the ankles of the >dancers. Unfortunately, the song doesn't do justice to the actual rhythmic >dance itself which I once saw at Disney World. Dell Oh, right... I'll have to give Cedar Breaks another listen. feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:05 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 06:22 AM 2/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > >E-Man wrote: > >>By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can >>only be burned once. > >No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore >cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not >only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! I get my blank CDs at Sam's Wholesale club for $1.69 each. These Verbatim Datalifeplus are perfect for music, data, etc, etc. And you can safely burn at 2x on them with no warbling. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:29 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >OK, Scott, so what exactly was YOUR point? >> Fan tapes help the artist, bootlegs rip off the artist. >All of this really amuses me since I recently saw a TD live tape (as in >cassette) at a record show selling for $20, and I think it was from the >Optical Race tour or later ;-) So maybe we should simplify Scott's >statement to: $20?!?!? What a rip! >'Fans help the artist, bootleggers rip off the artist'. To prove my statement, here's what transpired between myself and a fellow trader: FT: 'I've heard of TD but never heard their music. What are they like?' SP: blah blah blah 'I can put some of their stuff on a tape as filler if you want.' FT: 'OK.' later, after hearing Montreal 77: 'Hey, that was really cool! Let me know some good albums so I can start buying this stuff!' A fan is born. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:55 pm Subject: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>My biggest qualm with boots is the cost. $20 for a single disc >>is way too much. >-- scott, with all these latest td releases that have, in general, been >priced up the wazoo (eg: well over $20 import); are you going to buy them >or will you be hearing them on tapes??? Gees, and I thought I was long-winded! I do own several regular release TD titles on tape, that I've taped from CD's, LP's etc. the only reason being that that was the only way it was available to me at the time. I had DM only on tape, but later bought it. I plan on buying all the others I have on tape as well. Regardless of what you might think, I'm not trying to be holier-than-thou on this issue. TD boots are the exception rather than the rule. Runs are short, quality is generally pretty good, and litle profit is probably made. What I have a problem with is the bigger-name bands that are popular on boots: Pearl Jam, Pink Floyd, Smashing Pumpkins, etc. Runs are BIG on those, profits are high, and quality varies from good to sounds-like-it-was-recorded-at-the-bottom-of-a-swimming-pool. Those guys are the slimeballs who give tapers a bad name. I'll post some stuff on boots from Phish's page in my next post. Some may find it interesting. It kinda explains my position. After that, I think we've beat this to death. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 3:57 pm Subject: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' From http://www.phish.net, Phish's fan site: 3. Why Bootleg CDs are a Bad Thing Bootleg CDs are illegally produced and imported (mostly from Italy). The band and Elektra have been kind enough to allow us to tape shows legitimately, and this should be the means of enjoying this great music. Neither the band nor Elektra receives any profit for the CDs, which are a blatant copyright infringement. This alone should be enough to disuade any real Phish fan from this purchase. In at least one specific case, the availability of illegal bootleg CDs has meant restricted ability of fans to record high quality copies of a show. Ultimately, continued availability of bootleg CDs may end fan taping priveleges altogether. Also, it is unlikely that an illegal CD can top the sound quality of tapes, because of the crummy sounding tapes they start with. For every CD netters have seen available, higher quality copies are available, often as the result of one of more tape trees being run of high quality tapes of the same material. Note that the word 'bootleg' is an old, old word referring to illicit activity. If you're talking about Phish tapes which are recorded with the permission of the band, they're not bootlegs. The tapers are the ones who make all this wonderful Phish music available to us and we certainly don' t want to imply that they're criminals! If you're talking about illegal CDs, bootleg is definitely the correct choice of words. 'What happens if people continue to buy bootleg CDs?' Last updated: Sunday, 01-Feb-1998 01:45:16 EST There is a very real and strong possibility that it could lead to the downfall of legitimate taping. In the beginning, taping Phish shows was a great way to get their music heard by many ears and to earn them the live recognition for which they're now known. We have enjoyed this like fans of only a few other bands, in that a great concert experience can be relived time and time again. The taping network as it is now provides those willing to do a little work, access to any Phish show recently, and many older shows. The .net has allowed many trees to be run and many trades to be set up so this great music can be enjoy by all. Phish is unique in that every time a song is played it is a new experience. Phish is at a point now that they are a business. The band and their following has grown faster than information about legit taping, and the bootleg discs can spread. ... As far as Phish needing tapers, that's a lie. They're huge now and will continue to grow by word of mouth and album sales. People involved in taping and trading are now a small percentage of people involved in seeing the band. Its extremely kind of them to allow it to continue like this, and I think that we should all try and repay that by doing what we can to curb the sale and purchase of bootleg discs. 'I bought a bootleg CD - what should I do now?' Last updated: Wednesday, 28-Jan-1998 01:03:23 EST Buy no more, realize your mistake and redeem yourself. How? Make copies of the CDs for the first five newbies that respond to your post on the net and send you blanks and postage. Then, when you get a chance, make the same offer again... and again... and again.... If the quality on the CD is worth having at all, make sure as many people get it as possible and do whatever you can to prevent foreign thieves from wrecking our community. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11399 Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes DAVENTURA@a... Wed 2/25/1998 2 KB 11403 Re: Cedar Breaks feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11416 Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB 11422 Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes TWeibre361@a... Wed 2/25/1998 2 KB 11425 Re: Ranjit Alvaro Castillo Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11443 Re: Ranjit Dave Brewer Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 4:15 pm Subject: RE: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legit Vinyl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >>[. . .] I remember buying boots for $5 for a single LP, and buying >>LP's in the store for $6.50 to $7. > The *only* time I've ever seen a boot (vinyl or otherwise) sell for >less than the of a legit boot is when the boot is used and/or in bad >shape and/or of an artist that is out of or never was in favor with the >general buying public (or at least the store in which said boot has been Here are some of the LP boots I own, mostly bought at record conventions: The Beatles - Spicy Beatles Songs: $5 The Beatles - On Stage in Japan: $5 Aerosmith - Look Homeward, Angel: $5 (Sold this one) Led Zeppelin - Going to California: $5 Led Zeppelin - Knebworth '79: $10 (2 LP) Pink Floyd - Omayyad: $5 Pink Floyd - Nocturnal Submission $8 (2 LP) Pink Floyd - Crackers: $18 (3 LP) Genesis - As Though Emerald City: $6 Genesis - Swelled & Spent $11 (2 LP) Genesis - Revelatory Genesis: $7 (2 LP, best $7 I ever spent!) There are others, but I don't remember what I paid for them. I started buying boots in 1978, when legit LP's cost $6.49 at Record Revolution in Cleveland. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 4:28 pm Subject: Re: Since When Were Vinyl Boots Cheaper than Legit Vinyl? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Talking about expensive boots, how about '70/90'? I paid more for that > than I have paid for cd players. It was a dumb move, but it is a sweet > cd! Well, it *was*...until Electronic Orgy came along, that is! :-) SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:03 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 10:26:26 EST, you write: << FT: 'OK.' later, after hearing Montreal 77: 'Hey, that was really cool! Let me know some good albums so I can start buying this stuff!' A fan is born. Scott >> And on the other side of that coin is, 'Hey that tape really sucked, you're not my friend anymore'....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:14 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 10:52:42 EST, you write: << I'll post some stuff on boots from Phish's page in my next post. Some may find it interesting. It kinda explains my position. After that, I think we've beat this to death. >> Is this the Phish mailing list now? Never liked them, never will. Please keep your Non-Tangerine Dream comments to a minimum. I am not going to jump into this arguement over Fan Tapes vs. Boots vs. Fan Recordings vs. Scott and Steve vs. The World. I own no bootlegs, but if someone wants to send me a tape or a CDR, I don't think Edgar will mind. Damn, he's rich enough. Wish I could just sit around and play with All my Midi equipment all day. Oh, wait...That's what I do...David n.p. Alan Parsons Project...I Robot..(Wishing that Edgar and Alan would get together and make something worthy of my impeccable tastes) Sorry for the Non-TD comment.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:17 pm Subject: Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 10:53:51 EST, you write: << wonderful Phish music >> If you like the Grateful Dead...People who liked Led Zeppelin also enjoy Def Leppard...hmm From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:47 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 06:52:55 EST, you write: << where do you think most of those cd/cdr boots (like logostype) came from? (answer: tapes) and just how many of those cd/rs came from master fan tapes? (answer: not very many) >> hehe...the worst is when u pick up a cdr of a concert recording and it turns out to be ur master....cant tell u how many times thats happened... bottom line for me is i get to re-live the whole concert experience when i throw on a master...i remember (sometimes hazily i admit) who i was with, where i went, what i went through to get there, what happened afterwards, etc etc...its alot more than just the music...which is, i suppose, one of the reasons we're all td fans... tom w np: gary clail and the on-u sound system = emotional hooligan From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 5:51 pm Subject: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: GRHail@a... Tournado was the first Tangerine Dream album I didn't buy as soon as it came out. I had good expectations for it. I was somewhat disappointed: the 'live' versions of the compositions are too close to the studio versions. Tournado sounds to me like a greatest hits album, like The Private Music of Tangerine Dream. I wanted something more like Encore, where upon the re-workings of studio material were different and intersting. * * * G R Hail grhail@a... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11435 Re: Tournado SRiser3600@a... Thu 2/26/1998 2 KB 11439 Re: Tournado TWeibre361@a... Thu 2/26/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:09 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > > E-Man wrote: > > >By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can > >only be burned once. > > No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore > cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not > only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! > > Hilmar True about the cost if you are a wholesaler but I've seen CDR's go for at least 5-7 bucks for the average Joe walking into a CD store. Wholesale cost is $2 though. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11406 Re: Recordable CDs Tom Gerardy Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 6:08 pm Subject: Re: Cedar Breaks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... Oasis 'Cedar Breaks' Ah yes... I thought Edgar had gotten this stuff out of his system with the beginnings and endings of half the tracks on the Tangents boxed set. I guess not. Oh well... This could be used for a soundtrack to a TV show, but um, it doesn't stand alone... I'll stick with Flashflood and Waterbourne Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:14 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: feldon@p... > > At 06:22 AM 2/25/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft > > > >E-Man wrote: > > > >>By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can > >>only be burned once. > > > >No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore > >cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not > >only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! > > I get my blank CDs at Sam's Wholesale club for $1.69 each. These Verbatim > Datalifeplus are perfect for music, data, etc, etc. And you can safely burn > at 2x on them with no warbling. > > Morgan > feldon@p... Keep in mind that if you are paying that low price, the quality will change vs the higher priced Pioneer or TDK. No, I'm not saying that name brands are better, I'm only saying that from experience I've used cheaper CDRs and there are faults, sometimes in the long run. I've had cheaper brands start skipping after several months. In some cases, the CDR machine rejects the cd altogether in the middle of operation. Of course, the cheapness of your player will also matter. Better players are indeed finicky heh heh. Dan np: Kuffs (Faltermeyer) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11418 Re: Recordable CDs feldon@p... Wed 2/25/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 24, 1998 8:22 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > > On Sat, 21 Feb 1998 21:49:35 +0000 tadream mailing list > wrote: > > > Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > > > > > I don't understand people here. > > There was a guy organizing a tree to distribute this radio show and > > answered less than eigth persons.... > > > > just amazed, you know... > > > > Francisco > > Bad experiences with tape trees? As far as I remember, at > least the US version of the last tree went seriously wrong. Yes it went. At least it was more than a 6 month delay. Hopefully now it's finished. > And then of course, there's loads of technical jargon in > the usually not very brief how-to-use-our-tape-tree posts; > something like 'and then all you need to do is to take your > CD-R burner and...' As if we all had a CD-R burner! I never > had the impression that you could aspire to take part in > the tree if you haven't even got a double tape deck to your > name. Mea culpa ( Im sorry) I didn't thought about the possibility of others not having the equipment to do a copy. As far as my time allow it, I can make copies for those who cannot apply for a tree.( as soon as my copy arrives) --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:31 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy >Really-From: DJS > > >True about the cost if you are a wholesaler but I've seen CDR's go for >at least 5-7 bucks for the average Joe walking into a CD store. >Wholesale cost is $2 though. > >Dano Try computer places (including mail order.) One reason the prices are droping is because CDR has become a low cost computer peripheral. A 10 pack at the local Computer City goes for $20 and you can do better if you shop around. --tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:32 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > If someone like Edgar cries about it then he needs to get off > his nordic ass & release the stuff getting bootlegged. He's got enough > money to release everything in his vaults (including the old viking > hymns).... Dano, you crack me up. :-)) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:12 pm Subject: RE: Are We Having Fun Yet? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' If possible, could you please turn off HTML when mailing to the list. Thanks From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:40 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: DJS > > Keep in mind that if you are paying that low price, the quality will > change vs the higher priced Pioneer or TDK. No, I'm not saying that > name Well, Verbatim is one of the better quality brands. Is the one beginning to use those blue-dyes perfect for music use and has a very resistant printable side so scratches are less probably on them. Other good brands are Maxell, Philips, KAO and TDK. But here in Spain, Verbatim prices are similar to other brands, including CDR data type made by Pioneer. Pioneer have, also, 'consumer' type Cdr.'s and are only usable on consumer CDR burner machines. Not for computer use. I don't see any reason to use those consumer types since price is high not to give you better quality but because their CDR burning machines are designed to accept only those types ( I see it as a way of paying some royalties to the record companies). I'm using Cdr.'s from MPO a big european manufacturer using a dark blue dye together with a gold ( yellow) reflecting surface so what you perceive is a dark green color. I've burned a lot of those at 2X with no problems at all. Here in Spain I get CDR's in quantities over 20 at about 250 ptas/each and a major store sell Verbatim 10-CDR boxes at 3000 ptas ( around 1.7 US$ and 2 US$ respectively each CDR) ---Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:22 pm Subject: Re: Cedar Breaks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: feldon@p... > > I'll stick with Flashflood and Waterbourne I'll add Summer Storm. Anyway this CD is a BIG LOT better than Goblins Club. --- Francisco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11419 Re: Cedar Breaks Greg Heil Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 2:47 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 06:37 PM 2/24/98 EST, you wrote: >N.P. The Alan Parsons Project...Tales of Mystery and Imagination Edgar Allan >Poe > >Just wanted to let you guys know that I, for one, listen to other things than >TD. This >is the cool reissue with voice-overs by the late Orson Welles. Some fantastic >music here....David I also have this--very cool music, indeed! Also have it on LP--gold vinyl with a parchment-like insert in the gatefold with the Poe poems printed on it. I think it was limited Ed--I've had it for a long time. Mike > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:05 pm Subject: Re: Looking for CDR of Rare Tracks from Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-02-25 14:06:32 EST, you write: << > Bad experiences with tape trees? As far as I remember, at > least the US version of the last tree went seriously wrong. Yes it went. At least it was more than a 6 month delay. Hopefully now it's finished. >> nope...still havent gotten a copy.... tom w np: witchman = heavy traffic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 8:16 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' Subject: Re: Recordable CDs >> >>By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can >> >>only be burned once. >> > >> >No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore >> >cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not >> >only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! >> >> I get my blank CDs at Sam's Wholesale club for $1.69 each. These Verbatim >> Datalifeplus are perfect for music, data, etc, etc. And you can safely burn >> at 2x on them with no warbling. Philips (or other brands) CDRs are about $1.75 over here (The Netherlands) And not only for wholesaler, this is the price for one CDR! 100 CDRs are even cheaper. Prices are very cheap now, which is great of course for spreading my music. (now if only the damn post/package didn't went higher this year!) When I bought my first CDRs about 2 years ago they were about $10 to $15!! >Keep in mind that if you are paying that low price, the quality will >change vs the higher priced Pioneer or TDK. No, I'm not saying that name >brands are better, I'm only saying that from experience I've used >cheaper CDRs and there are faults, sometimes in the long run. I've had >cheaper brands start skipping after several months. In some cases, the >CDR machine rejects the cd altogether in the middle of operation. Of >course, the cheapness of your player will also matter. Better players >are indeed finicky heh heh. Bought cheaper ones in the beginning and never had any problems with them, apart from a bad sector on my hard-drive which resulted in skipping of music (aarrgghh). Took me a few weeks to find out. But now that 'quality' CDRs are the same price as no-names I buy Philips. TD-content: Concert TD - CDR any time! (even when from tape) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 7:49 pm Subject: D:Live Discussion - Quality Rating Chart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Sorry, I snuck in one more paragraph on the tape vs. boot discussion... > Really-From: TWeibre361@a... > << where do you think most of those cd/cdr boots (like > logostype) came from? (answer: tapes) and just how many of those cd/rs came > from master fan tapes? (answer: not very many) >> > > hehe...the worst is when u pick up a cdr of a concert recording and it turns > out to be ur master....cant tell u how many times thats happened... Good, that means that there are good CD-Rs out there. I hope that by now most of us agree that CD-Rs can be compared to tapes (not pressed bootleg runs), but in a more convenient format that preserves the copy's generation. OK, enough on this, what I really want to say is.. I think it would be nice during the D:Live discussion to discuss the quality of the recordings and come up with an official tadream list rating system (are you reading Lars, Lawry, or Tom?) and then compile the statistics. Let's say that a particular show (such as Montreal '77 - this one seems to be popular) exists on cassettes, 2 different CD-R releases (one release with PC sonic enhancements, etc.), and one vinyl boot and a CD boot; I would like to know which one has the best quality. At the end of the discussion I'd like to know which release I should track down (if interested) instead of having to search out the various releases of the same show. Since I doubt that many on this list have multiple source releases of the same show to compare and rate, I hope we can come up with something that will be consistent and let us know the best of the best. As fo the non-live stuff, we know which is the best source for this, and it happens to be composed of 4 bootleg pressed CDs ;-) Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11415 Re: D:Live Discussion - Quality Rating Chart TWeibre361@a... Wed 2/25/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 8:00 pm Subject: Re: D:Live Discussion - Quality Rating Chart ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 15:42:47 EST, you write: << Good, that means that there are good CD-Rs out there. I hope that by now most of us agree that CD-Rs can be compared to tapes (not pressed bootleg runs), but in a more convenient format that preserves the copy's generation. OK, enough on this, what I really want to say is.. >> not necessarily...god knows what generation it is...but, a direct copy from a master onto cd is imo indistinguishable.... Let's say that a particular show (such as Montreal '77 - this one seems to be popular) exists on cassettes, 2 different CD-R releases (one release with PC sonic enhancements, etc.), and one vinyl boot and a CD boot; I would like to know which one has the best quality. interesting concept...be sure to bring it up...im even more interested in the difference between multiple masters... but then, no one on this list has ever admited being a taper so.... tom w np: praxis = 1984 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 9:02 pm Subject: Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > > << wonderful Phish music >> ^^^^^^^ > If you like the Grateful Dead...People who liked Led Zeppelin also enjoy Def > Leppard...hmm ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ Sorry for going off-topic, but Thin Lizzy, Santana & King's X kick all those bands asses.... OK, back to TD! E-Man np: Vanden Plas, 'The God Thing' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 4:03 pm Subject: Ranjit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox OK--sorry to butt in, but can someone give me a URL for Ranjit again? I _swear_ I won't lose it this time! Thanks, Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 9:08 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:14 AM 2/25/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS >> Really-From: feldon@p... >> >> At 06:22 AM 2/25/98 -0500, you wrote: >> >Really-From: Hilmar Kraft >> > >> >E-Man wrote: >> > >> >>By the way, recordable CDs cost at least 5 bucks apiece, and can >> >>only be burned once. >> > >> >No, blank recordable CDs cost less than 2 bucks nowadays and are therefore >> >cheaper than a good-quality blank tape, even on a per-minute basis! So not >> >only do you get better quality...you also save money over time! >> >> I get my blank CDs at Sam's Wholesale club for $1.69 each. These Verbatim >> Datalifeplus are perfect for music, data, etc, etc. And you can safely burn >> at 2x on them with no warbling. > >Keep in mind that if you are paying that low price, the quality will >change vs the higher priced Pioneer or TDK. Actually I use TDK and Verbatim. Verbatim is the best for 2x burning BAR NONE. Why do I use Verbatim? because even the TDK's can skip on really old 2x and 4x readers... I can get TDK's for $1.50 each with rebate. So actually, I consider Verbatim Datalifeplus to be premium discs. However, for 4x burning I have only had success with TDK 2x/4x/6x RATED MEDIA (the regular TDK discs won't do it). And yes, I've tested these discs on older 2x and 4x finicky systems. feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 9:09 pm Subject: Re: Cedar Breaks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > > > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > > > I'll stick with Flashflood and Waterbourne > > I'll add Summer Storm. > > Anyway this CD is a BIG LOT better than Goblins Club. > > > --- Francisco > I agree! But 'Zion' reminds me of a Franke/Frose track with great shifts/transitions and should be added too. I personally think.. Modern TD is MUCH better without the e-guitar and 'Oasis' shows that really well. Even 'DM' is guitarless and is successful at what it's doing. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 9:32 pm Subject: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' With all this talk about the new 25 CD's, we forgot the other news from DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11456 Re: Dream Collector Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11463 Re: Dream Collector Plumer, Scott Fri 2/27/1998 2 KB 11493 Re: Dream Collector Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11515 Dream Collector chris horn Sun 3/1/1998 2 KB 11541 Re: Dream Collector Plumer, Scott Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 10:21 pm Subject: TD 25 CD set? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka Someone told me recently that TD would be putting out a 25 CD set (a la Klaus Schulze) of live concerts. Can someone give me information about this? I'm brand new to the list, so perhaps I'm rehashing old material here, but I'd like to find out! John Majka flossbac@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11424 Re: TD 25 CD set? DAVENTURA@a... Thu 2/26/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Feb 25, 1998 10:31 pm Subject: Re: Precious little TD: Boots vs. tapes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 16:06:11 EST, you write: << , Santana kick all those bands asses.... >> hey..u have any live material from the 'caravanseri' era? let me know... tom w np: praxis = transmutation live Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11425 Re: Ranjit Alvaro Castillo Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11443 Re: Ranjit Dave Brewer Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 12:58 am Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... Do we HAVE TO keep going on and on about the price of godamned CDR's? My God, are we that cheap? Thank you for letting me vent...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 1:02 am Subject: Re: TD 25 CD set? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-25 17:23:41 EST, you write: << Someone told me recently that TD would be putting out a 25 CD set (a la Klaus Schulze) of live concerts. Can someone give me information about this? I'm brand new to the list, so perhaps I'm rehashing old material here, but I'd like to find out! John Majka flossbac@w... >> Oh no, here we go again. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 1:35 am Subject: Re: Ranjit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Alvaro Castillo Ranjit can be reached at ranjit@n... and http://www.webpage.com/progtron BTW, is he still 'alive'? I havent' heard from him in a while. -Alvaro. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11443 Re: Ranjit Dave Brewer Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 2:04 am Subject: OFF: Klaus Schulze 'In Blue'? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka I'm looking for a copy of the Klaus Schulze 'In Blue' CD. Does anyone perhaps have one lying about for sale, or know where I can get one? john majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 1:59 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Nigel Merrick' Hi All... It's interesting to see the discussion about Oasis and, especially, the track 'Cedar Breaks'... This is one track that suddenly leapt out from the others after hearing the CD for about the fifth time. It's certainly different from all the other tracks on that album, but has become one of my favourites. I've not had the fortune of seeing the video as yet, so can't comment on the visual aspects of this piece, but it did put me in mind of the movie 2001 for some odd reason - especially the music that accompanies the first image of the Discovery ship with Frank Poole doing his hamster impression, jogging around the inside. The original music was by Gyorgy Ligeti (I think) and is not all that similar to Cedar Breaks of course, but this track certainly evokes a similar atmosphere for me... All in all, though, Oasis is a great album with one major fault - it is way too short!!! Regards Nigel Merrick St George Bermuda Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11429 Re: D: Oasis Gabe Yedid Thu 2/26/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 2:58 am Subject: TD remasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka I'm hoping someone can answer my questions regarding tangerine dream remastered CDs. Recently PHAEDRA, RUBYCON, RICOCHET and STRATOSFEAR were reissued by Alliance. Can anyone tell me if these editions are remasters? Also--were Cyclone and Force Majeure ever released as remasters? If so, how available are they? John Majka flossbac@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11444 Re: TD remasters Dave Brewer Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:08 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 21:59:17 -0400 > Really-From: 'Nigel Merrick' > > > Hi All... > > It's interesting to see the discussion about Oasis and, especially, the > track 'Cedar Breaks'... This is one track that suddenly leapt out from the > others after hearing the CD for about the fifth time. It's certainly > different from all the other tracks on that album, but has become one of my > favourites. I've not had the fortune of seeing the video as yet, so can't > comment on the visual aspects of this piece, but it did put me in mind of > the movie 2001 for some odd reason - especially the music that accompanies > the first image of the Discovery ship with Frank Poole doing his hamster > impression, jogging around the inside. The original music was by Gyorgy > Ligeti (I think) and is not all that similar to Cedar Breaks of course, Mmmm....no ;). This piece is by Aram Khatchaturian, and is known as 'Gayne's Adagio' (among other things), from his score to the ballet, _Gayne_ (the same ballet from which issues the famous 'Sabre Dance'). I don't think Ligeti (the one who wrote the 'monolith music') would ever write anything so conventionally melodic. But yes, you're right, I also first thought that 'Cedar Breaks' resembled the Khatchaturian piece at first. It was only after 2 or 3 listens through that I first noticed its closer relation to pieces like 'Mysterious Semblance...' and 'Epsilon in Malaysian Pale'. > Regards > > Nigel Merrick Gabe real email address: remove the 'nospam' to get my real address. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 5:20 am Subject: Trading Links ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: webmaster@r... I just stumbled upon your site and I was wondering if you would be interested in swapping links? Please feel free to come over to my site before you make your mind up, my info is at the bottom. Just send your URL and how you would like your site listed and I’ll get it right up. Thanks and take care... Curt Round Flat Records http://www.roundflat.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 6:38 am Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > Do we HAVE TO keep going on and on about the price of godamned CDR's? > My God, are we that cheap? Thank you for letting me vent...David You're right davie, let's get back to talking about the really interesting stuff like...er...how much we like Love On A Real Train! NOT! Seriously, at least this topic hasn't been covered while I've been here. Oh, and regarding your language...I doubt most here appreciate it....so please...in all politeness...shut the hell up if you must speak that way. Try to be informative, constructive or at least witty with your statements. Regards, Dan np: Hard Boiled From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 8:43 am Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: 'Nigel Merrick' > All in all, though, Oasis is a great album with one major fault - it is way > too short!!! YES!! Let's ask for a double OASIS II. (:-DDD ( Dammit, my Oasis CD is the European version lacking that extra track american version has and that seems to be so good...) --- Francisco P.D. I qualify OASIS with a 4AS From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 7:36 am Subject: Music Link Request - www.ear1.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: roadie@e... (ear 1) Hello Webmaster! Have you linked to Ear 1 yet? Ear 1 (http://www.ear1.com ) is a vast music site featuring the affiliated record labels of the Warner Music Group, including Warner Bros. Records, Reprise, Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Maverick, Revolution, Sire, Curb Records, and others.  Through the combined efforts of these major movers in the music industry,  Ear 1 has made available a vast resource of interviews, videos, contests, tour dates, and links to over 1,000 official artist sites on the web.  Ear 1 offers an undeniable wealth of timely and entertaining information to fans of every musical genre: rock, jazz, blues, country, gospel, classical, rap, reggae, R&B, latin, new age and metal. If your site is about music, any music, and/or you feature any of the artists that fall under the WMG umbrella, please consider adding a link to http://www.ear1.com.  If you'd like, feel free to use one of the two Ear 1 graphics found on http://www.cnotes.com/promotions.html Thanks for listening! roadie@e... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 12:07 pm Subject: Re: German REPEAT REPEAT LP ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Steven Feldman > I bought a German pressing of Peter Baumann's REPEAT REPAT album >(for $1.00!) yesterday, and noticed two differences from its American- >issued counterpart: > > o instead of a green border on the front and back cover, there is a > purple cover > > o after about the third track, the rest of the tracks on the album > are in a different order. > Do *you* know about and/or have this pressing of this album, Vic? First of all - good deal! I don't have the German copy and no mention in 'Voices in The Dunes' of different track listings. I'm curious as usual. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 1:51 pm Subject: Re: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600@a... This is true.. I also am VERY disapointed in Tournado It's not near as good as other live dreams Hope a u.s. tour(if it ever really happens) is better From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 2:28 pm Subject: Re: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hammer1612@a... This note is a bit in response to Steven's question to Scott about the price of vinyl bootlegs. In Scott's defense, its pretty obvious that we are about the same age since I also remember buying both commercial release LPs for about $6 and then buying vinyl bootlegs for only about $5 per disc. In fact, I remember buying several TMOQ boots on colored vinyl for only about a buck more apiece and 4 disc boxes for $20-$25. This was back in the early 70s when bootlegs were really in their heyday (at least the FIRST time...). What wasn't commented on was the fact that most of these boots were of simply awful sound quality, little or no artwork or efforts at packaging & labeling, re-re- recycled vinyl that occasionally had ground up bits of paper from the old labels sticking out of it, etc, etc... Every now and again, you would find a real treasure but most of the time, well you get the picture. Kind of soured me for collecting very many of these since it was definitely a crap shoot on what you might get. Flash forward to the 80s/90s. Lets face it, all the really good boots come from overseas now, both wax & CD versions. It isn't cheap to import them or manufacture them. The exchange rate sucks, driving the costs even more artificially high ( I remember ordering UK import LPs in the 80s for as little as $6-$7 cost). Due to an even more lopsided split between tapes/LPs/CDs than it used to be, none of the formats is universally supported. Ad infinitium. BUT--we exchange that for computer technology to clean up and produce amazing quality CD-Rs and vinyl recordings, DAT and other formats to do the recording with, the internet to share and collect them, and (usually) pretty decent packaging and liner notes to go along with them. All in all, worth the extra $$ we have to give to listen to them all. Lets face it, I personally don't wish to go back to the old way. I'd almost rather not collect those old recordings than to have them cheap and never listen to them. True, I do have to be much more selective in what I choose to purchase but I find I enjoy it so much more when I do get a real honey. Just my opinion... Mike Surber From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 2:56 pm Subject: TD 25 CDs again... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka Since no one sees to have wanted to answer my question the first time, let me again ask, as a newbie to the list, what's the deal with the Tangerine Dream 25 CD set? I heard that such a thing would be released. If you don't want to answer me, can you at least tell me where I can find out about it? Give me some information please! A track listing/order address/price and all other relevant information would be much appreciated. Did you know that Hawkwind is among the greatest bands ever? John Majka flossbac@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11440 Re: TD 25 CDs again... TWeibre361@a... Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11447 Re: TD 25 CDs again... DAVENTURA@a... Thu 2/26/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 2:57 pm Subject: Babylon 5 Disc error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Hi everybody. If you recall when the B5 episodic cds first came out, one of the CDs was a bad pressing (with part of a track being silent). At that time Sonic Images said they would replace the defective disc at no charge when the new ones were pressed. Did anyone ever receive the corrected discs? (I didn't) MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11441 Re: Babylon 5 Disc error TWeibre361@a... Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:05 pm Subject: Re: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-26 08:52:51 EST, you write: << I also am VERY disapointed in Tournado It's not near as good as other live dreams Hope a u.s. tour(if it ever really happens) is better >> which is exactly why there are tape trees.... tom w np: sminds la 1991 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:14 pm Subject: Re: TD 25 CDs again... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-26 09:56:04 EST, you write: << Since no one sees to have wanted to answer my question the first time, let me again ask, as a newbie to the list, what's the deal with the Tangerine Dream 25 CD set? I heard that such a thing would be released. If you don't want to answer me, can you at least tell me where I can find out about it? Give me some information please! A track listing/order address/price and all other relevant information would be much appreciated. Did you know that Hawkwind is among the greatest bands ever? >> as with so many things td related (and life in general) its all rumor...an article from dream collector, synopsized on the list, stated that there were some sort of nebulous plans to release 25 discs of material in the coming year...no mention was made of a 'box'...for info, id check the bands web site...now, if ur interested in a 25 tape 'box' i think i can help you...and no, i wasnt aware that hawkwind was one of the 'greatest bands ever'? tom w sp: simple minds in la 1991 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:16 pm Subject: Re: Babylon 5 Disc error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-26 10:03:26 EST, you write: << Hi everybody. If you recall when the B5 episodic cds first came out, one of the CDs was a bad pressing (with part of a track being silent). At that time Sonic Images said they would replace the defective disc at no charge when the new ones were pressed. Did anyone ever receive the corrected discs? (I didn't) >> which disc had the problem? i thought the silences were the shadows cruising in space.... tom w np: muslimgauze - al-zulfiquar shaheed From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:25 pm Subject: Boots from the bad old days (was: RE: Fan Tapes vs. Fan Recording s) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >bootlegs were really in their heyday (at least the FIRST time...). What >wasn't commented on was the fact that most of these boots were of simply awful >sound quality, little or no artwork or efforts at packaging & labeling, re-re- >recycled vinyl that occasionally had ground up bits of paper from the old >labels sticking out of it, etc, etc... Every now and again, you would find a Really?!?! Sound quality was varied at best, but I never had defective pressings. My brother had a Stones boot that had some bubbles in it, but that was it. And artwork-wise, most, if not all the boots I've had have had really nice artwork, especially Dylan's Great White Wonder. :-) Spicy Beatles Songs, e.g., has a picture of Ringo as a pig, in the EC Comics style. Tales from the Who also had an EC-style cover. Lots of nice caricatures, etc. And I remember another Stones boot that had Farrah Fawcett sitting on a toilet. . . Ob. TD: I feature some TD boot covers in my book, and most of them I find kinda disappointing. Patrolling Space Borders is nice, Antarktis is OK except that it's the wrong lineup, and Undercover Dreams is OK, but The Emerald Beyond? 3 Tier Dream? Blech! Most of them are OK, but just that: OK. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:50 pm Subject: Re: Ranjit ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: Alvaro Castillo > > BTW, is he still 'alive'? I havent' heard from him in a while. > Yep, though a little water-logged with all the rain hitting California. I just got a mail from him yesterday, after asking him about the status of my order. (the Orgy is on its way! Yippee! :-) ) He's probably just been a little too busy lately. (I know I have) Dave B. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 4:00 pm Subject: Re: TD remasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: John Majka > > I'm hoping someone can answer my questions regarding tangerine dream > remastered CDs. Recently PHAEDRA, RUBYCON, RICOCHET and STRATOSFEAR were > reissued by Alliance. Can anyone tell me if these editions are remasters? As far as I know, the Virgin UK editions are the remastered ones. I haven't personally seen the Alliance versions, tho, so I don't know about them. > Also--were Cyclone and Force Majeure ever released as remasters? If so, how > available are they? See above. Any store with a decent import section (assuming you're in the States) should carry or order the Virgin UK versions. (lots of places on the web offer them as well) Dave Brewster From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 4:19 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Nigel Merrick' > > > Hi All... > > It's interesting to see the discussion about Oasis and, especially, the > track 'Cedar Breaks'... This is one track that suddenly leapt out from the > others after hearing the CD for about the fifth time. It's certainly > different from all the other tracks on that album, but has become one of my > favourites. I've not had the fortune of seeing the video as yet, so can't > comment on the visual aspects of this piece, but it did put me in mind of > the movie 2001 for some odd reason - especially the music that accompanies > the first image of the Discovery ship with Frank Poole doing his hamster > impression, jogging around the inside. The original music was by Gyorgy > Ligeti (I think) and is not all that similar to Cedar Breaks of course, but > this track certainly evokes a similar atmosphere for me... > > All in all, though, Oasis is a great album with one major fault - it is way > too short!!! > > Regards > > Nigel Merrick > St George > Bermuda I think 'Oasis' benefits from 'Cedar Breaks' even if it's so much different from the other tracks--TD likes to put in a classical track on their later albums ('Turn of the Tides', Tyranny of Beauty') but these were written by classical composers. IMO, 'Cedar Breaks' is better than those other two. I think a lot of thought went into percieveing 'Cedar Breaks' as it is one of those musical ideas that might not fit elsewhere. I for one, think it is a good transition point out of the 90's rockish period and into something more structured, thought out, and electronically based in classical composition. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 5:51 pm Subject: Re: Recordable CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-26 03:27:16 EST, you write: << so please...in all politeness...shut the hell up >> Shutting up, Sir. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 6:01 pm Subject: Re: TD 25 CDs again... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-26 09:56:04 EST, you write: << Did you know that Hawkwind is among the greatest bands ever? >> Actually, I wasn't aware of this. Who decided that? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 6:22 pm Subject: D:World Tour CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy I wanted to contribute to this discussion a comparison of the 2 versions of 'Maedchen on the stairs' from this CD to the Tatort version 'Das Madchen Auf Der Treppe' (thank you EO) and with the title track to White Eagle. This being the case I listened to each several times over the last few days and I discovered that my feelings vary significantly depending on the order I listen to them in! If I listen to WE or Tatort version first, it seems like a perfect, minimalist treatment of the song and the versions from the World Tour CD seem like needless complication and embelishment. On the other hand, if I listen the other way around, the WTCD versions sound very nice. I kind of like the heavy base line and drumming and unless I am paying very close attention I often miss the break between which makes it almost like one 10 min. version! Then when I listen to WE it sounds so thin, like a starving relative - wierd. Order of the ginger gild (third song on the WTCD) is OK, but not particularly distinctive to me so far... I also agree with someone earlier that WTCD has a nice physical design with TDI logo over silver with the rest of the disk clear. Biggest negative is too expensive, why do my musical desires pay no attention to my wallet? --tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 7:23 pm Subject: Canyon Dreams DVD sucks! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Kevin Baird I bought the Canyon Dreams DVD (http://www.simitar.com/video/7324.htm) a few weeks back, without any means to play it, and last night had an opportunity to check it out. I went to my local Good Guys and just helped myself, since that store is devoid of employees to help you, least of all informed employees. I played it on both a 2nd generation Toshiba DVD player on a projection TV, and on a Compaq Presario something or other with a DVD-ROM drive. What a disappointment! I haven't seen video compression that crappy since I was working with DVI in 1992! The video had the blurry, boiling look typical of very poor MPEG-1 compression, and the audio popped and clicked to different levels throughout. And that was on the TV. When I looked at it on a nice sharp RGB computer monitor, I nearly cried. What a waste of such beautiful imagery and music! At least at $20 I paid no more than I did for my (worn out) VHS copy. I want to know who compresses Simitar's stuff, and avoid them at all costs. I'm sure I was seeing it right, because I looked at Space Jam and Mask on both systems, and they were beautiful. Does anyone have the laserdisc version of it, and was it mastered as poorly? I suspect that it was just a shoddy compression job, and that the master is fine. So, you have to get Canyon Dreams because it's a TD title, or just for archival purposes, because you can probably make a decent refresher to your VHS from it. Just don't look at it on a GOOD monitor. Hopefully Oasis will be done better. >B _________________________________________________________________ Kevin Baird Presto Studios, Inc. vox (619) 622-0500 x145 5414 Oberlin Drive, Suite 200 fax (619) 622-0310 San Diego, CA 92121 mailto:KevinB@p... http://www.Presto.com/ The Journeyman Project 3 <<<<>>>> http://www.LegacyOfTime.com/ http://www.apple.com/thinkdifferent/journeyman.html Think wow. _________________________________________________________________ 'Journeyman 3 kicks ass ...with both feet!' -- Terrance Russell _________________________________________________________________ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 3:09 pm Subject: Microsoft attachment removal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox Her's how to turn off the HTML and MS Exchange attachments that plague, especially, the digest folks. Hope it helps! >Stop Exchange from Attaching WINMAIL.DAT > > Last Modified: 1/6/96 > > A good way to piss people off on the Internet is to repeatedly fill >their mailbox with the useless WINMAIL.DAT attachments that Microsoft >Exchange insists on including. Since Exchange supports rich-text email >(bold, italic, multiple fonts, etc.), and Internet email doesn't, any >email sent from Exchange to a non-Exchange mail reader will contain an >Attachment called WINMAIL.DAT. If you use Exchange, you won't see this >file, and the message will retain its formatting. However, it can be >confusing for those who don't use Exchange (the majority of the Internet >population), and have no use for this file. Here's how to turn it off: > >Step #1: > Double-click on the Mail and Fax icon in Control Panel. > Click on the Services tab, and select Internet Mail from the list. > If Internet Mail is not listed, click Add to add this service. > Click Properties, and then Message Format. > Turn off the option that reads Use MIME when sending messages. > Click OK and then OK again. > >Step #2: > Double-click on the name of each recipient in your Address Book. > Turn off the option that reads Always send to this recipient in >Microsoft rich-text format. > This option needs to be set for each recipient of a message - if >even one has this turned on, all recipients will still get the attachment. > > Note: Either of these methods should work for most users, but >sometimes nothing seems to work - yet another brilliant design strategy by >Microsoft. If you plan to be sending lots of internet email, you should >seriously consider using a mail program more suited to the task, such as >Eudora. > > Note: A bug in Exchange may cause line feeds to be replaced with >equal signs when rich-text mail is disabled. > >*********************************************** > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11452 Re: Microsoft attachment removal Kevin Baird Thu 2/26/1998 3 KB 11454 #tadream formed feldon@p... Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 5:19 pm Subject: Re: D: Oasis ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' about Cedar Breaks: >It was only after 2 or 3 listens through that I first noticed its >closer relation to pieces like 'Mysterious Semblance...' and 'Epsilon in >Malaysian Pale'. ??????? (you get the idea) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 9:41 pm Subject: Re: Microsoft attachment removal ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Kevin Baird At 03:09 PM 2/26/98, you wrote: >>email sent from Exchange to a non-Exchange mail reader will contain an >>Attachment called WINMAIL.DAT. If you use Exchange, you won't see this >>file, and the message will retain its formatting. However, it can be >>confusing for those who don't use Exchange (the majority of the Internet Typical of Microsquash to inflict their 'standards' on the rest of us. >B Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11454 #tadream formed feldon@p... Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Feb 26, 1998 10:39 pm Subject: Digest 204 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Could someone please send me digest 204. Mail server problems. Thanks, Lawry. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 12:33 am Subject: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... For those of you with free time on your hands, a #tadream channel has been formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you fancy real-time discussions about TD, please feel free to join us. The channel is small right now, so don't expect lots of people at 8am CST (4pm England time). You need an IRC client such as mIRC for Win3.1/95/NT or iRCLE for Macintosh. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Off-Topic: Moroder & Donna Summer Win Grammy for Best Dance Record of 1997!?! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven.Feldman--Moroder.Fan.Since.1977, Yes, I know: this is way off topic, but as a long-time Moroder fan (there aren't that many of us, alas), I found this astounding, since Moroder and Donna Summer's work together took place mostly from 1975- 1981 (from LOVE TO LOVE YOU BABY to THE WANDERER): -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + From: Jonas Warstad [Giorgio Moroder mailing list] Subject: VB: Moroder Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 21:20:13 +0100 Message-ID: <01bd42f3$f177fa60$LocalHost@j...> Philip Purcell says: >Giorgio & Donna won the Grammy Award for Best Dance Recording for >'Carry On'! Barry F Seidman says: >Just in case you did not hear; Giorgio and Donna won the Grammy for best >Dance record of 1997! Thanks both for the info! Moroder forever! Btw, the so called 12' version of Call Me from the American Gigolo soundtrack might be the same as the regular album version (8 min). Best to all, Jonas Warstad From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 1:10 am Subject: Re: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 04:32 PM 2/25/1998 -0500, the devil made Scott ask: >With all this talk about the new 25 CD's, we forgot the other news from >DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? > You DON'T want to know. :-(( Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 3:50 am Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: feldon@p... > > For those of you with free time on your hands, a #tadream channel has been > formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you > fancy real-time discussions about TD, please feel free to join us. The > channel is small right now, so don't expect lots of people at 8am CST (4pm > England time). > > You need an IRC client such as mIRC for Win3.1/95/NT or iRCLE for Macintosh. > > Morgan > feldon@p... Hmm, this might actually be interesting assuming there aren't powertripping ops in the Elana (Goldtri) vein. Nothing cramps me more than being booted from a chat room (Or newslist!!) because your humor is mistaken or because your view or opinion differs. Out of curiousity, who will be the head honcho of the room? If it's you I'll be sure to stop by. If Elana is ever in the room...I can finally tell her that her web pic bears a remarkable resemblance to Jerome. As Eric Cartman would say....'Coo!' Regards, Dan (who hopes that fish are banned from the room) np: Bekki Williams (Elysian Fields) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11458 Re: #tadream formed Vic Rek Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11462 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Fri 2/27/1998 4 KB 11460 Re: #tadream formed Greg Heil Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11461 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Fri 2/27/1998 4 KB 11465 Re: #tadream formed DJS Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11469 Re: #tadream formed AOutland Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11470 Re: #tadream formed Vic Rek Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11516 Re: #tadream formed Rich Maggio Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11517 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 5:27 am Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: feldon@p... >For those of you with free time on your hands, [...] ??? >a #tadream channel has been >formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you >fancy real-time discussions about TD, please feel free to join us. The >channel is small right now, so don't expect lots of people at 8am CST (4pm >England time). I think this is a bold initiative. But what's the point here? It sounds kind of competitive against this list - and I don't support this! Who's behind this effort? Please e-mail me off list and give me the details ;-( Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11462 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Fri 2/27/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 6:35 am Subject: FS: Tatort single/StreetHawk single ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS I have the Flock/Speed 12' & the Street Hawk 12' singles for sale if anyone wants them. I'm asking $15 each. I'll cover postage. Lemme know if ya want em, Regards, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 9:08 am Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: Vic Rek > I think this is a bold initiative. But what's the point here? It sounds kind > of competitive against this list - and I don't support this! Who's behind > this effort? Please e-mail me off list and give me the details ;-( > > Vic I don't think it will be much of a threat to this list.. you find many TD fans flowing in and out mostly to confess inner thoughts about TD and other things to themselves. Yah, I'm saying that it's not totally structured, the time zones are difficult to follow, and I'm sure there will be many that will go there and find no one to talk with (how depressing :..( Of course by doing this, you suddenly leave a number of those people who don't or can't have IRC access, as for those pople, just having access to a computer to use e-mail is all they have access to, or all they can afford. I don't think this list leaves anyone out... as it is, everyone has an equal ability to input. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 2:04 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 07:50 PM 2/26/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS > >tadream mailing list wrote: >> -- >> Really-From: feldon@p... >> >> For those of you with free time on your hands, a #tadream channel has been >> formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you >> fancy real-time discussions about TD, please feel free to join us. The >> channel is small right now, so don't expect lots of people at 8am CST (4pm >> England time). >> > >Hmm, this might actually be interesting assuming there aren't >powertripping ops in the Elana (Goldtri) vein. Nothing cramps me more >than being booted from a chat room (Or newslist!!) because your humor is >mistaken or because your view or opinion differs. Out of curiousity, who >will be the head honcho of the room? If it's you I'll be sure to stop >by. If Elana is ever in the room...I can finally tell her that her web >pic bears a remarkable resemblance to Jerome. As Eric Cartman would >say....'Coo!' Right now it's just me. We've got some protection bots to keep the channel from being taken over, but I am the only op there for now. As a result, the channel is quite sleepy from 11 PM through the night (USA time). In fact, I've already seen several people join, but I wasn't there to say hello: [4:18] *** atheissen (armin@a...) has joined #tadream [4:33] *** |Q| (~andre@s...) has joined #tadream [4:34] <|Q|> hi there [4:40] *** |Q| is now known as |Oasis [6:26] *** theissen (armin@a...) has joined #tadream [6:27] not too much going on at tadream.... [7:13] *** Ric0chet (sbm@p...) has joined #tadream [7:15] *** Ric0chet has quit IRC (Leaving) [7:49] *** WhiteWolf (HGHLNDR@1...) has joined #tadream [7:50] hello all [7:51] is anyone here from the Tangerine Dream mailing list? > >Regards, > >Dan (who hopes that fish are banned from the room) fish! hehehehe... Ya, I run a respectful channel, but I'm going to limit my 'kicks' to people who say that 'Tangerine Dream sucks' and flooding the channel. Morgan feldon@p... #tadream on EFNET From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 12:27 AM 2/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Vic Rek > >>Really-From: feldon@p... >>For those of you with free time on your hands, [...] > >>a #tadream channel has been >>formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you >>fancy real-time discussions about TD, please feel free to join us. The >>channel is small right now, so don't expect lots of people at 8am CST (4pm >>England time). > >I think this is a bold initiative. But what's the point here? It sounds kind >of competitive against this list - and I don't support this! Who's behind >this effort? Please e-mail me off list and give me the details ;-( This is a live in-person chat. This doesn't compete with the list AT ALL. I assume that only about 4% of the list has time time/effort to join such a chatroom. I created the chatroom myself as a place to go and talk about whatever, including favorite TD, etc. The TD list is more formal, discussing releases, concerts, tape trees, and where to get the latest information about *whatever*... Due to the format of the #tadream channel, it is NOT nearly as good a source for information as the tadream list and I encourage people in #tadream who aren't already on the list to get on it. Morgan feldon@p... > >Vic > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 2:16 pm Subject: RE: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >At 04:32 PM 2/25/1998 -0500, the devil made Scott ask: >>With all this talk about the new 25 CD's, we forgot the other news from >>DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? >> >You DON'T want to know. :-(( Oh yes I do! I assume they're not coming, but is there any reason why? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11493 Re: Dream Collector Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 3:22 pm Subject: OFF: Atlanta area members only! Prog weekend starts today @ 1500. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' Sorry to bother all of you other folks out there, but there is another edition of the 'Partly Pink (Floyd), Purely Progressive' starting today at 1500 on Z93 (92.9). Even though I have 80% of the stuff that they play, it is still cool to hear it on the radio... As this is crossposted to several lists, I'll try and make it specific to those that are getting this... Tangerine Dream; they generally play a heaping helping of the TANGENTS material (I counted 8 tracks last time around). And they mention TD on their homepage! Camel; haven't heard anything by them, but who knows??? BOC/Hawkwind; no HW so far, but I think I heard a BOC standard or two... Ozrics & Porcupine Tree; I wish... Again, I apologize to all of you out there getting Spammed by this or who can't listen in... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Craig Shipley craigs@s... Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc. 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE Suite 400 Atlanta, Georgia 30342 (404) 845-3404 Corporate Voice Mail (800) 333-5754 x-2023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > I think this is a bold initiative. But what's the point here? It sounds kind > of competitive against this list - and I don't support this! Who's behind > this effort? Please e-mail me off list and give me the details ;-( > > Vic Nah, I don't think it will effect this list at all. This is kinda like home to most of us as far as TD goes. It's just nice to be able to chat live with some list members about other things other than just TD which we are advised to only discuss here. I also agree that there will be few people going in and out, especially since half of us are in different time zones...or even countries. So, cheer up there Vicman, heh heh. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 5:43 pm Subject: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' I am looking for as good a copy of the 'twofold' Epsilon (Virgin V2040) vinyl. Mine went walking a year or so ago and I've never gotten into replacing it. Anyone out there got one spare? Contact me off list (jmpoer@i...) Thanks. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 26511 Re: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Thomas Bertilsson Sun 3/18/2001 3 KB 26512 Re: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Synthhtnys@a... Sun 3/18/2001 2 KB 26513 Re: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Phil White Sun 3/18/2001 2 KB 26516 Re: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Frank Arellano Sun 3/18/2001 3 KB 26518 Re: Epsilon in Malaysian Pale Mark Coyle Sun 3/18/2001 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 5:11 pm Subject: 2/28/98: New Soundtrack Releases ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Fordat1 INTRADA PRESENTS: New Compact Disc Releases Many of these CDs should be available from your regular retail outlet. If you have trouble locating any of them, you are more than welcome to order them from Intrada. Intrada 1488 Vallejo St. San Francisco, CA 94109 415.776.1333 FAX: 415.776.2666 e-mail: intradanet@a... http://www.intrada.com This announcement is divided into the following sections: I. Statistics II. New Releases III. Recent Releases IV. Coming Soon I. STATISTICS____________________________________ Albums announced available here for 1998 to date: 65 New this week: 20 II. NEW RELEASES________________________________ ELMER BERNSTEIN: The Great Escape Rykodisc 10711 -Same as Intrada album plus dialogue- Intrada release still available for only $3.99!!!! Return Of The Magnificent Seven Rykodisc10714 Sweet Smell Of Success TT 3002 (Germany) -Also: Walk On The Wild Side- Twilight Edel 3800 CARTER BURWELL: Big Lebowski Polygram 536903 (one score cut) CARMINE COPPOLA: Apocalypse Now Elektra 60826 (Germany) -Score Album with no dialogue- MASON DARING: Men With Guns Rykodisc 10437 ALFRED DEUTSCH: Some Like It Hot Rykodisc 10715 GEORGE FENTON: Dangerous Beauty Restless 72958 CHRISTOPHER FRANKE: New Music For Films Sonic Images 6509 G. FRIDAY/M. SEEZER: The Boxer MCA 11751 DUKE ELLINGTON: Paris Blues Rykodisc 10713 ELLIOT GOLDENTHAL: Sphere Varese 5913 TREVOR JONES: Dark City TVT 8160 Desperate Measures Velvet 79715 QUINCY JONES: In The Heat Of The Night/They Call Me Mr Tibbs 15.99 -Rykodisc 10712- ROBYN MILLER: Riven Virgin 45425 (CD-Rom game) STEVE PORCARO: The Sentinel Sonic Images 8802 GRAEME REVELL: Chinese Box MB 93285 VARIOUS: Classic TV Game Show Themes Varese 5881 -Wheel Of Fortune/Jeopardy/Price Is Right/etc- III. RECENT RELEASES______________________________ HARRY GREGSON-WILLIAMS: The Borrowers Universal 53125 VARIOUS: The Real Blonde Milan 35839 (Songs) IV. COMING SOON___________________________________ PLEASE DO NOT TRY TO ORDER ANY OF THESE DISCS AT THIS TIME!!! ------------------------------------------------------------- JOHN BARRY: Sophia Loren in Rome PEG The Knack and How to Get it Ryko The Whisperers Ryko The Living Daylights Rkyo MARCO BELTRAMI: Scream/Scream 2 Varese ELMER BERNSTEIN: The Great Escape Varese The Magnificent Seven Varese MICHAEL GIACCHINO: The Lost World - Sony Playstation Virgin *JAY CHATTAWAY: Star Trek - The Next Generation Vol. 4 Crescendo (The Inner Light, Fistful of Datas, Tin Man, Sub Rosa Birthright, Dark Page) NICK GLENNIE-SMITH: The Man in the Iron Mask Milan JERRY GOLDSMITH: Star Trek: The Motion Picture -Expanded- Sony U.S. Marshalls Varese HARRY GREGSON-WILLIAMS: The Replacement Killers Varese BERNARD HERRMANN: Torn Curtain (McNeely cond.) Varese Garden of Evil (Stromberg cond.) Marco Polo Citizen Kane (McNeely cond.) Varese Taxi Driver (expanded) Arista JAMES HORNER: Krull (expanded, 2-CD set) SuperTracks MICHAEL J. LEWIS: Ffolkes Promo JOEL McNEELY: Wild America Prometheus ANGELA MORELY: Watership Down PEG ENNIO MORRICONE: Bulworth ISC THOMAS NEWMAN: The Horse Whisperer MCA ALEX NORTH: Viva Zapata! Varese BASIL POLEDOURIS: Les Miserables Hollywood DAVID RAKSIN: Forever Amber Varese JOHN SCOTT: Cousteau Tribute JOS VARIOUS: Best of Godzilla 1954-1975 GNP Crescendo Best of Godzilla 1984-1995 GNP Crescendo JOHN WILLIAMS: Close Encounters (expanded) Arista *Saving Private Ryan Dreamworks VICTOR YOUNG: The Uninvited, etc. Marco Polo *Added or updated from last week Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11478 Re: 2/28/98: New Soundtrack Releases Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: From Dawn til Dusk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' What tracks are on the From Dawn. . . Till Dusk 1973 - 88 compilation? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11471 Re: From Dawn til Dusk PENFOLD Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 7:06 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-02-27 12:14:45 EST, you write: << It's just nice to be able to chat live with some list members >> I would love to be able to do this. Sorry to be so dense, but I am still fairly new to computers in general. I have visited chat rooms thru AOL, but do not know how to go to this new forum you are talking about. What do I have to do to get there? Thanks for your patience. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 7:10 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: DJS > Nah, I don't think it will effect this list at all. This is kinda like > home to most of us as far as TD goes. It's just nice to be able to chat > live with some list members about other things other than just TD which > we are advised to only discuss here. I also agree that there will be few > people going in and out, especially since half of us are in different > time zones...or even countries. So, cheer up there Vicman, heh heh. All right, all right... It was just an off day for me. I think I'm over it now and no hard feelings towards anyone. :-) Vicman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 7:34 pm Subject: Re: From Dawn til Dusk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 13:30 199802.27 -0500, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >What tracks are on the From Dawn. . . Till Dusk 1973 - 88 compilation? TDC07 · TANGERINE DREAM FROM DAWN ‘TIL DUSK 1973-1988 (MUSIC CLUB/MCCD 034) 1991 01· Song Of The Whale (Part 1: From Dawn) 02· Song Of The Whale (Part 2: From Dusk) 03· Boise De Boulogne 04· Ride On The Ray 05· Poland (Actually ‘Yellowstone Park’) 06· London 07· Le Parc 08· Live Miles (Extract) 09· Central Park 10· Zeit 11· Wahn ··Total Time·· [73:15] Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: RE: Dream Collector, 25 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hello Tadreamers, > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) > Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 10:14:51 EST > Subject: Re: TD 25 CDs again... > > Really-From: TWeibre361@a... > as with so many things td related (and life in general) its all rumor...an > article from dream collector, synopsized on the list, stated that there were > some sort of nebulous plans to release 25 discs of material in the coming > year... Be sure this is *not* a rumour but an official announcment by Edgar and Jerome Froese talking to Dream Collector some two weeks ago. The article was based on an official information by TDI Music, and we were already able to print some of the covers of the forthcoming CDs. There is nothing 'nebulous' about the whole thing, just go for the (Dream) roots of the information... ;-) Btw, *we* never mentioned a 25-CD-box in our newsletter. Perhaps someone mixed it up with another German electronic musician in the discussion on this mailing list... TDI plan to release 25 CDs one after another, some are re-releases of former records, some will contain previously unreleased old material, concert outtakes and soundtracks. Greetings, Peter --------------------------- Peter Stoeferle Dream Collector newsletter peter.stoeferle@t... --------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11473 Re: Dream Collector, 25 CDs Sean Montgomery Fri 2/27/1998 3 KB 11535 Re: Dream Collector, 25 CDs Colin Knowles Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Feb 27, 1998 9:30 pm Subject: RE: Dream Collector, 25 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > TDI plan to release 25 CDs one after another, some are re-releases of > former records.... I really hope they don't add a bonus track to each of them in an effort to get us to buy the re-issues (a la Rockoon, Tyranny, TOTT....) SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 12:02 am Subject: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Well, I live in the Atlanta area and I took Craig's advise and tuned in to 92.9 FM and sure enough on my drive home they played 'Logos (Blue version)' from Tangents. For some reason TD sounds different on the radio, maybe it's because you know it's not a private thing... This made me recall an old 'funny' thread (over a year ago) whereby someone in Florida saw a guy driving in a pick-up truck (as I recall) that had Tangerine Dream painted on it. The deal was that this guy didn't look like a TD fan and everyone started debated as to what a TD fan should look like. I'd say look in the mirror on a good day :-) Maybe we all look like Eli or Dano, heh heh? But what dawned on me about this was that this guy could have been part of the Tangerine Dream auto thing that's at www.tangerinedream.com. As far as TD fans in the Atlanta area, I think there are 5 on this list. Myself, Jim, Craig, and?, and?. Vic, who has nothing better to do on a Friday excecpt listen to the radio and TD music (thanks Lars). ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11479 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11480 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening TWeibre361 Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11487 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening DJS Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11491 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11537 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening Plumer, Scott Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB 11539 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening Plumer, Scott Mon 3/2/1998 2 KB 11544 Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening DJS Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 12:35 am Subject: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Some have you have jumped the gun slightly, but this week we would like to hear comments on Tournado. Please make the subject header D:Tournado when replying. Lawry. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11477 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 DJS Sat 2/28/1998 4 KB 11484 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 Gabe Yedid Sat 2/28/1998 4 KB 11483 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 TWeibre361 Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11490 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 DJS Sat 2/28/1998 5 KB 11497 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 Lars R. Jones Sat 2/28/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:36 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and list member pics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > - > This made me recall an old 'funny' thread (over a year ago) whereby someone > in Florida saw a guy driving in a pick-up truck (as I recall) that had > Tangerine Dream painted on it. The deal was that this guy didn't look like a > TD fan and everyone started debated as to what a TD fan should look like. > I'd say look in the mirror on a good day :-) Maybe we all look like Eli or > Dano, heh heh? Heh heh, there seems to be a controversy about what Eli & myself look like. There also seems to be several requests for some scanned pics of us (I think everyone wants us to prove that we are actually kids from the 70's). Well, heh, unfortunately Eli won't let me scan any of the pics I already have of him so you'll have to wait until he schedules an appointment at the nearest Walmart for some pro pics, hehehe. My company will have a website up soon enough dedicated to my music, comic book work and miniature wargame rules & writing. Stay tuned, I'll get a picture of Eli in there somewhere heh heh. Regards, Dano np: Kraftwerk-Autobahn (if my name was Florian I think I'd change it!) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11481 Re: Driving, Watching, and list member pics Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:41 am Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > Some have you have jumped the gun slightly, but this week we would like to > hear comments on Tournado. > > Please make the subject header D:Tournado when replying. > > Lawry. I know this isn't prolific...but this album just plain sucks. Take the last four albums, take a few tracks (exact tracks without changes!) from each one, bridge them together with the infamously boring oberheim voice bridges and presto...a live album! Zzzzz....220 volt is like Force Majeure compared to this tee-erd. ;-) JMO of course. Regards, Dan np: still Autobahn....did someone forget to tell these guys that they need to release albums at least once a decade to make money? Then again, there IS a Kraftwerk newslist. I can't imagine what they talk about considering KW's short album run. Week one: Man, Autobahn sure is great! Week two: Man, Man Machine rocks! Week eight: Man, Autobahn sure is great! ;-) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11484 Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 Gabe Yedid Sat 2/28/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 2:46 am Subject: Re: 2/28/98: New Soundtrack Releases ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Fordat1 > > > II. NEW RELEASES________________________________ > > STEVE PORCARO: The Sentinel Sonic Images 8802 Interesting....Toto's (& session) keyboardist/synthesist...I wonder if this is a good, melodic, electronic OST... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:04 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > This made me recall an old 'funny' thread (over a year ago) whereby someone > in Florida saw a guy driving in a pick-up truck (as I recall) that had > Tangerine Dream painted on it. The deal was that this guy didn't look like a > TD fan and everyone started debated as to what a TD fan should look like. > I'd say look in the mirror on a good day :-) Maybe we all look like Eli or > Dano, heh heh? Dano=*sinister-looking* Eric Clapton, hehe. Eli=kinda like a cross between Antonio Banderas & Lorenzo Lamas, just not quite as handsome, haha! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:35 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-02-27 19:05:18 EST, you write: << Vic, who has nothing better to do on a Friday excecpt listen to the radio and TD music (thanks Lars). ;-) >> vic my friend....where to begin? upstairs, as we speak, i have 3 couples...they know what a tangerine is, and they know what a dream is...but u know what they are listening to? tape 2 of tree 2....and guess what? they're not complaining! im feeding em cheap red wine, which may help, but so what? the mission, if u choose to accept it, is CONVERT! force them to dream the dream...coerce them...tell em u have no madonna, no gloria estefan, no spice girls, no fleetwood mac...this is it...td from some obscure german radio show...if they complain, give em headphones for christsakes...force them to accept the reality...be teutonic! (of course this goes for the rest of you) tom w np: (hehe) genesis - get em out by friday From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:35 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and list member pics ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > Heh heh, there seems to be a controversy about what Eli & myself look > like. There also seems to be several requests for some scanned pics of > us (I think everyone wants us to prove that we are actually kids from > the 70's). Well, heh, unfortunately Eli won't let me scan any of the > pics I already have of him so you'll have to wait until he schedules an ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If you looked like one of the guys from Menudo, you wouldn't want your pic scanned & uploaded, either!!!!!!!!!!!! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:43 am Subject: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' This Pink Floyd track circa 1971 is beyond anything I've heard from that time... Reminds me of a couple tracks on 'Miracle Mile' Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11485 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11486 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) Greg Heil Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11492 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11498 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) DAVENTURA Sat 2/28/1998 3 KB 11503 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) Tdune Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11521 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) Vincent Goudreault Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11523 Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) DAVENTURA Sun 3/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 3:55 am Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-02-27 21:41:30 EST, you write: << np: still Autobahn....did someone forget to tell these guys that they need to release albums at least once a decade to make money? Then again, there IS a Kraftwerk newslist. I can't imagine what they talk about considering KW's short album run. Week one: Man, Autobahn sure is great! Week two: Man, Man Machine rocks! Week eight: Man, Autobahn sure is great! ;-) >> whoa pal...time out...as usual u assume and u know what that means..on the kw list we talk about about such earthshatttering things as: why playing autobahn will prolong the life of my car's tires why man machine is a menu for my future existence how to add with the pocket calculator where to get a ticket for the TEE why mix the mix the robots vs. flesh and bones: which is more worthy? now u tell me this aint relevant? tom w np: radioactivity....(is it a real problem, or is it caused by td fans?) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 4:01 am Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DJS > > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > I know this isn't prolific...but this album just plain sucks. Take the > last four albums, take a few tracks (exact tracks without changes!) not even the new guitar solos ;)? Seriously, though, they're not exactly the same. At Amsterdam, at least, I think Jerome *was* playing the lead line of 'Firetongues' live, and as for the others...well, often times, it seems to me, TD plays less dolled-up, almost 'demo' versions on stage that are missing some kind of subtle, but crucial, sound or counter-harmony. The Ventura '92 tape has about 3 examples of this, two of which *didn't* work out well at all (Girls on Broadway, Rockoon), and the '97 tour has 1 example where it didn't make too much difference ('Lamb With Radar Eyes'). I know that 'Rockoon' just doesn't cut it at all without the chime-based synth melody, and the '92 'Girls on Broadway', well, in 2 words, blew chunks. > from > each one, bridge them together with the infamously boring oberheim voice > bridges and presto...a live album! Zzzzz....220 volt is like Force > Majeure compared to this tee-erd. ;-) JMO of course. Must disagree. The bridges from the '97 tour were much more varied and interesting (perhaps TOO varied) compared to the ones from '92. > Regards, > > Dan > > np: still Autobahn....did someone forget to tell these guys that they > need to release albums at least once a decade to make money? Then again, > there IS a Kraftwerk newslist. I can't imagine what they talk about > considering KW's short album run. Week one: Man, Autobahn sure is great! > Week two: Man, Man Machine rocks! Week eight: Man, Autobahn sure is > great! ;-) Week 10: KW are as great artists as Wagner. It's been done. btw, sorry I missed you on IRC today, Dano ;). From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 4:17 am Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > This Pink Floyd track > circa 1971 is beyond anything > I've heard from that time... > > Reminds me of a couple tracks > on 'Miracle Mile' Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Get PF's 'Wish You Were Here' so you can listen to one of my fave PF tunes: 'Welcome To The Machine.' E-Man ne (now eating): enchiladas From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 4:58 am Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > > > > This Pink Floyd track > > circa 1971 is beyond anything > > I've heard from that time... > > > > Reminds me of a couple tracks > > on 'Miracle Mile' > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Get PF's 'Wish You Were Here' > so you can listen to one of my fave PF tunes: 'Welcome To The Machine.' > > E-Man > ne (now eating): enchiladas Hey E-man.. I copped out and bought 'A Collection of Great Dance Songs' so yes, I have the 'Wish You Were Here' track, but not 'Welcome To The Machine' I need 'Meddle' and the album you mentioned. Good stuff! Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:11 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > --- > > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > > > > This made me recall an old 'funny' thread (over a year ago) whereby > someone > > in Florida saw a guy driving in a pick-up truck (as I recall) that had > > Tangerine Dream painted on it. The deal was that this guy didn't look > like a > > TD fan and everyone started debated as to what a TD fan should look like. > > I'd say look in the mirror on a good day :-) Maybe we all look like Eli > or > > Dano, heh heh? > > Dano=*sinister-looking* Eric Clapton, hehe. > Eli=kinda like a cross between Antonio Banderas & Lorenzo Lamas, just not > quite as handsome, haha! > > E-Man Heh heh, what is this Eric Clapton thing?? I look nothing like Clapton, heh heh. Eli looks like Graham Green from Dances with Wolves. Heh heh. He also looks like an hispanic Ken Foree hahahahaha...with hair down to his ass of course. Hahahaa! D-man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:15 am Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - Off ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > << np: still Autobahn....did someone forget to tell these guys that they > need to release albums at least once a decade to make money? Then again, > there IS a Kraftwerk newslist. I can't imagine what they talk about > considering KW's short album run. Week one: Man, Autobahn sure is great! > Week two: Man, Man Machine rocks! Week eight: Man, Autobahn sure is > great! ;-) > >> > > whoa pal...time out...as usual u assume and u know what that means..on the kw > list we talk about about such earthshatttering things as: > > why playing autobahn will prolong the life of my car's tires > why man machine is a menu for my future existence > how to add with the pocket calculator > where to get a ticket for the TEE > why mix the mix > the robots vs. flesh and bones: which is more worthy? > > now u tell me this aint relevant? > > tom w > > np: radioactivity....(is it a real problem, or is it caused by td fans?) Hehhehehe, so sorry. I didn't realize that there was so much to know about KW. My apologies (yeehahaha). Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 5:14 am Subject: Final CD Sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) First of all, thanks to all of you who purchased cds over the past couple of weeks. I hope you enjoy them. Now, before I head out to the used cd shop...I would like to list one final group of cds for sale: Import version of The Dream Roots Box Set.I have the first 4cds available.I am keeping the 5th cd, but will record it for you . The cds are unplayed and feature the DQC remastering. There is a very noticable improvement in sound quality.Songs on the 4 cds are from Zeit, Alpha Centauri, Green Desert,Underwater Sunlight, Tyger,Livemiles,Le Parc,and Poland. In some of the earlier songs, EF has completly rerecorded them to great effect. If you have purchased all the remastered reissues, you don't need this collection....if you haven't , this is a good addition to your collection. Also included in the sale is a 60 page booklet with rare photos etc and a beautiful slip case for the cds. As I already own the reissues, and space is a problem....I don't need duplicates. I am asking $45.00 for the set...what I paid. And, I will include free shipping by priority mail. Also for sale at $5.00 each: Tyranny of Beauty, The Private Music of TD, Robert Schroder's Driftin and Timewaves Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:20 am Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Gabe Yedid > > On Fri, 27 Feb 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: DJS > > > > > > tadream mailing list wrote: > > > > > > > I know this isn't prolific...but this album just plain sucks. Take the > > last four albums, take a few tracks (exact tracks without changes!) > > not even the new guitar solos ;)? > Seriously, though, they're not exactly the same. At Amsterdam, at least, > I think Jerome *was* playing the lead line of 'Firetongues' live, and as > for the others...well, often times, it seems to me, TD plays less > dolled-up, almost 'demo' versions on stage that are missing some kind of > subtle, but crucial, sound or counter-harmony. The Ventura '92 tape has > about 3 examples of this, two of which *didn't* work out well at all > (Girls on Broadway, Rockoon), and the '97 tour has 1 example where it didn't > make too much difference ('Lamb With Radar Eyes'). I know that 'Rockoon' > just doesn't cut it at all without the chime-based synth melody, and the > '92 'Girls on Broadway', well, in 2 words, blew chunks. > > > from > > each one, bridge them together with the infamously boring oberheim voice > > bridges and presto...a live album! Zzzzz....220 volt is like Force > > Majeure compared to this tee-erd. ;-) JMO of course. > > Must disagree. The bridges from the '97 tour were much more varied and > interesting (perhaps TOO varied) compared to the ones from '92. > > > Regards, > > > > Dan > > > > np: still Autobahn....did someone forget to tell these guys that they > > need to release albums at least once a decade to make money? Then again, > > there IS a Kraftwerk newslist. I can't imagine what they talk about > > considering KW's short album run. Week one: Man, Autobahn sure is great! > > Week two: Man, Man Machine rocks! Week eight: Man, Autobahn sure is > > great! ;-) > > Week 10: KW are as great artists as Wagner. It's been done. > btw, sorry I missed you on IRC today, Dano ;). Heh heh, I thought you were out having a sandwich or something. At first I see all these bots & thought I was being ignored because I am sort of infamous for being a bad boy (see any member via Goldtri & they'll explain it to ya heh heh). I'll catch ya later in the room eventually. That way we can have a live discussion about why Ralf's name always comes before Florian's. ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 5:54 am Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > > Dano=*sinister-looking* Eric Clapton, hehe. > > Eli=kinda like a cross between Antonio Banderas & Lorenzo Lamas, just not > > quite as handsome, haha! > > > > E-Man > > Heh heh, what is this Eric Clapton thing?? I look nothing like Clapton, > heh heh. Eli looks like Graham Green from Dances with Wolves. Heh heh. > He also looks like an hispanic Ken Foree hahahahaha...with hair down to > his ass of course. Hahahaa! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ It's true...I now reveal my true identity: Vince Di Cola! hahahahaha E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:03 am Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > > Your mission, should you choose to accept it: Get PF's 'Wish You Were > Here' > > so you can listen to one of my fave PF tunes: 'Welcome To The Machine.' > > > Hey E-man.. > I copped out and bought 'A Collection of Great Dance Songs' ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ At least you can return it.... > so yes, I have the 'Wish You Were Here' track, but not 'Welcome > To The Machine' I need 'Meddle' and the album you mentioned. 'Meddle'smokes, indeed! Then, of course, Dark Side & The Wall....further on: Zappa Land! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:10 am Subject: RE: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 09:16 AM 2/27/1998 -0500, Scott wrote: > >>DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? > >> > > >You DON'T want to know. :-(( > > Oh yes I do! I assume they're not coming, but is there any >reason why? > ''Organizational reasons,' Edgar and Jerome Froese said to Dream Collector.' also 'Their are too busy moving their studio' (in Berlin) and 'with the bulk of forthcoming TDI releases.' Sorry, Scott. I am bummed out too. Andrew :-( From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 7:19 am Subject: CD's FS/Trade ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Andy Garner I am selling the following CD's. Prices are: 8 GBP UK or $12 (Single album sets) 12 GBP UK or $18 (Double CD sets) but all prices are negotiable, especially on large orders. Trades are also welcome, just send your wants and trade lists. Please e-mail me privately if interested: Best Before - The End Of The World Boddy, Ian - Rare Elements (2CD) Franke, Chris - Klemania Inoue, Makoto - Chronology 2 Six & More - Blue Q Bleep & Booster - The World Of Bleep & Booster Code - The Architect Elektric Music - Esperanto Foreign Spaces - Dark Star Jolliffe, Steve - Temenu Keller, Detlef - Ways To The Rainbow Kraftwerk - Computer World Kraftwerk - Autobahn Kraftwerk - The Mix Rhythm & Irrelevance - #9 Dreams (recycle Or Die Label) Roach/Kent, Newby - Halcyon Days Symbiosis - Lake Of Dreams Van Zyl - The Relic (2CD) Various - EMMA 1994 Compilation (Shreeve, Shipway, Pickford, Dyson , Boddy) Various Artists - Sequences Magazine 17 Various Artists - Some Music Is Private Music Various Artists - Out There Lies The Truth (Boots. Aerts, Van Der Heijden, Munz) Waveform - Making Waves -- Andy Garner From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 11:40 am Subject: help of sorts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Does anybody know for certain if 'The Keep' is now out in the States on the official release (as against the limited edition concert version).....if so which label is it on (Virgin?) and what is the catalogue number? A stockist would also be useful. in the States - or elsewhere to try and find distribution for our releases on Champagne Lake Productions - this includes Mark Shreeve, Redshift, Andy Pickford and others .....our US stalwarts to date Eurock and Progtron are getting almost impossible to contact - so I need to know who is YOUR supplier - if you can mail me off-line with this info inc snail-mail address, phone/fax no and e-mail address it will be much appreciated. Hopefully, this info will enable us to get UK artists' music into your 'local' outlet.....good for us all! And thanks in advance. Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11499 Re: help of sorts! Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 2/28/1998 4 KB 11518 Re: help of sorts! Rich Maggio Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11546 Re: help of sorts! Plumer, Scott Mon 3/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 11:48 am Subject: 5th ALFA CENTAURI EM FESTIVAL --- LAST CALL ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Snelders, Eric' 5th ALFA CENTAURI ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL SATURDAY MARCH 21, 1998 THEATRE 3-in-1 HUIZEN the NETHERLANDS PLEASE NOTICE: ADVANCED BOOKING PERIOD IS CLOSING =============================================== please be aware that the advanced booking period closes at march 15, 1998 only limited amount of tickets available ! with concerts of ARC (Ian Boddy and Mark Shreeve) Mark Jenkins, Alquimia and Paul Nagle Rainbow Serpent Mario Schonwalder & Detlef Keller Syndromeda live modular moogs ! video projections and computer animations, real-live-musicians on screen ! demonstrations of BMI (Steinberg) and Mopro (Emagic, Audiowerk) lots, lots of stalls with magazines, books, sample CD's, CD/records, synths, software, studio equipment, new instruments from NAMM: Yamaha, Korg, etc. trade exchange 2 stages (main concert hall and first floor) hundreds of fans from different countries musicians, producers, distributors, radio, magazines etc. plenty of food and drinks theatre opens 11.45 hours first concert starts at 12.45 hours last concert ends 23.00 hours theatre closes 24.00 hours if you are not reserving your tickets in advance, please be in time at the box-office we cannot guarantee that tickets will be available later on the day ! if you want to reserve tickets from the Netherlands: by transferring the amount to ABN AMRO account nr 55.44.80.638 attn of Stichting Alfa-Centauri, bank's giro nr 32750 from all other countries: by sending an eurocheque or cash money (hidden in envelope) to Stichting alfa-centauri, PO Box 1131, NL-1270 BC Huizen payments after march 15 cannot be processed ! for more info: Stichting alfa-centauri, PO Box 1131, NL-1270 BC Huizen, the Netherlands or phone/fax: +31 (0)35-5265635 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 12:30 pm Subject: Re: D:List Addendum Week 3 - 1 March, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> gabe sez: > Week 10: KW are as great artists as Wagner. It's been done. KW? Ralf! ;-o lars (feeling a little green) btw: I know I owe email to bunches of you but I'm stuck at a conference in toronto... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 6:24 pm Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-02-28 01:06:11 EST, you write: << > so yes, I have the 'Wish You Were Here' track, but not 'Welcome > To The Machine' I need 'Meddle' and the album you mentioned. >> Am I to understand this correctly? Some people out there have not heard Meddle, Atom Heart Mother, OST from 'More', Animals? My God, and I thought I led a sheltered life. I have the complete PF catalog on vinyl, including Animals on pink vinyl. I would be interested in a possible trade. Side two of Meddle, Echoes, is a masterpiece. Sorry for perpetuating this thread. And now back to TD...David n.p. Pink Floyd...Wish You Were Here..( Half Speed Master...remember those?) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 7:26 pm Subject: Re: help of sorts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:40 AM 2/28/1998 -0000, Ash wrote: >in the States - or elsewhere to try and find distribution for our >releases on Champagne Lake Productions - this includes Mark Shreeve, >Redshift, Andy Pickford and others .....our US stalwarts to date Eurock and >Progtron are getting almost impossible to contact - so I need to know who >is YOUR supplier - if you can mail me off-line with this info inc >snail-mail address, phone/fax no and e-mail address it will be much >appreciated. Hopefully, this info will enable us to get UK artists' music >into your 'local' outlet.....good for us all! Ash, This is a perpetual problem for us. We find the British prices way too expensive and the German postal costs exorbitant. There are only a handful of folks who carry 'specialty' items (Backroads, Minette Music, ProgTron, Eurock). The 'majors' don't carry anything for us either on the Net or in the stores. At this time, methinks that Eurock is still your best bet. Archie does send a regular newsletter by mail and updates his Web site regularly. While not cheap, his prices are reasonable. Ranjit is a good guy, but he is really busy with his 'real' life and has not kept up with stuff real well. His site has not been updated since September. This is an idea... have you tried to contact CD Now? They sell about 30% of all the recordings sold on the Net. I am going to ask them to see what it takes. Hey, what's there to lose, no? Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 8:50 pm Subject: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs will be released soon... No other details were available. MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11504 Re: More B5 discs! Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11505 Re: More B5 discs! Greg Heil Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11507 Re: More B5 discs! Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 3/1/1998 2 KB 11508 Re: More B5 discs! DAVENTURA Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11509 Re: More B5 discs! DJS Sun 3/1/1998 4 KB 11510 Re: More B5 discs! Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 3/1/1998 4 KB 11520 Re: More B5 discs! Vincent Goudreault Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11533 Re: More B5 discs! DJS Mon 3/2/1998 4 KB 11571 Re: More B5 discs! Vincent Goudreault Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Feb 28, 1998 9:15 pm Subject: old TD tickets ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Last week, Jeffrey Au-Yeung made a post about offering a used TD ticket for sale or trade... I thought this was popular among the Grateful Dead, I never knew it was among the TD folks... Anyway, I think I have an UNused ticket from the opening night of the 1988 Optical Race US tour...Interesting offers will be entertained... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 00:10:41 -0600 >Subject: RE: Dream Collector >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Andrew J. Rozsa > >At 09:16 AM 2/27/1998 -0500, Scott wrote: > >>>>DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? [. . .] >>> >>I assume they're not coming, but is there any reason why? > >[. . .] Edgar and Jerome Froese said to Dream Collector [. . .] 'Their >are too busy moving their studio' (in Berlin) and 'with the bulk of >forthcoming TDI releases.' Oooo, *I* get it: in other words, they don't have time to pattern a cutesy new playlist around all the recent tadream product (tm) soon to bombard TD fans worldwide. What a drag. I say fuck supporting the new product, Ed: it'll sell itself anyways. Give us all-new non-studio music again. Didn't the cold reception to TOURNADO tell you anything? Fans don't give a whit about by-the-numbers greatest hits retreads, only newbies do. Don't tell me you're staging your concerts strictly for the non-fan, Ed. You wouldn't do something like *that*, would you? That would mean that you are putting out lotsa stuff for the fans, but are touring for the newbies with material they won't know because they are not fans. It might be understandable to tour in support of albums that people (fans and newbies alike) can actually *buy* without selling their firstborn for imports that their limpdick local music supermarkets can't get for them, but -- face it -- TDI's distribution is pretty near non- existent, so . . . what in the hell is going on?!? So there's lotsa new stuff coming out, BFD: that shouldn't affect a tour. What's the problem, Ed? Is counting TDI's dough taking too long? Hire somebody else to do it? This father & son act can't be *that* down-home an organization... can it? Give us some shows with new stuff. You can worry about re- tooling the snot out of shows you record on the tour for studio re- engineering a 'live' album *later,* fer chrissakes. -- This Rant (tm) Has Been Brought to You by Steven Feldman Hee hee ;) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11536 Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? ashok prema Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB 11551 Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11552 Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 2:27 am Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-02-27 22:50:09 EST, you write: << Really-From: 'Greg Heil' This Pink Floyd track circa 1971 is beyond anything I've heard from that time... Reminds me of a couple tracks on 'Miracle Mile' Greg H. >> If you think that tune cranks, I have a live version from a BBC radio show that is even better than the studio version, I mean Dave Guilmour goes nuts on that guitar!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 3:00 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > will be released soon... No other details were available. E-Man np: sound of cat farting From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:31 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > > will be released soon... No other details were available. > > > E-Man > np: sound of cat farting Greg H. np: Sound of a guootar and a dog cry'n From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 5:19 am Subject: The Rage of Steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > [Re; TD USA Tour cancellation] > >[. . .] Edgar and Jerome Froese said to Dream Collector [. . .] 'Their > >are too busy moving their studio' (in Berlin) and 'with the bulk of > >forthcoming TDI releases.' > > Oooo, *I* get it: in other words, they don't have time to pattern a > cutesy new playlist around all the recent tadream product (tm) soon to > bombard TD fans worldwide. What a drag. I say fuck supporting the new > product, Ed: it'll sell itself anyways. Give us all-new non-studio > music again. Didn't the cold reception to TOURNADO tell you anything? TD's been on 'auto-pilot' for most of the 90s.... > stuff coming out, BFD: that shouldn't affect a tour. What's the problem, > Ed? Is counting TDI's dough taking too long? Hire somebody else to do Hahahahahaha > it? This father & son act can't be *that* down-home an organization... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ E-Man Elias Granillo, Jr. upnsm0ke@g... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11511 Re: The Rage of Steven SRiser3600 Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11513 Re: The Rage of Steven Elias Granillo, Jr. Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB 11542 Re: The Rage of Steven Plumer, Scott Mon 3/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 5:19 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > > E-Man > > np: sound of cat farting > > > np: Sound of a guootar and a dog cry'n Didn't Rik Emmet of Triumph play a guootar? LMAO E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 5:29 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-01 00:21:57 EST, you write: << Didn't Rik Emmet of Triumph play a guootar? >> Hey, wait a minute. I bought Rik Emmett's solo album 'Absolutely' after seeing his show, that a friend of mines band opened for. Rik put on a good show, and I still enjoy his album....David n.p. Rik Emmett...Absolutely..(actually haven't listened to it since I bought it) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 7:03 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > > will be released soon... No other details were available. > > E-Man > np: sound of cat farting Haha! I have to agree with this thought. Who gives a flying rat turd if Franke releases ANY other CD's. He's lost all creativity. Eli & I used to slobber at the slightest mention of Franke (check out his collaboration with Shreeve or his classic 80's TD action). Now, however, he releases mindless, uninspired dreck that fails to be anything more than another B5/Klemania/music for films remix. Now the name Franke doesn't even make me give a second look. His time is up. The only difference between Eli's opinion of the mention of more Franke discs and my opinion is this: np: Bent Cold Sidewalk that leads away from Franke's BORING B5 soundscapes. Regards, Dan From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 6:34 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > > > will be released soon... No other details were available. > > > > E-Man > > np: sound of cat farting > > Haha! I have to agree with this thought. Who gives a flying rat turd if ^^^^^^^^^ Huh huh, huh huh....you said 'turd'.... > Franke releases ANY other CD's. He's lost all creativity. Eli & I used > to slobber at the slightest mention of Franke ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ True....back in the 80s/early 90s....TD was ranked up there with a new Alicia Rio video LMAO > difference between Eli's opinion of the mention of more Franke discs and > my opinion is this: > > np: Bent Cold Sidewalk that leads away from Franke's BORING B5 > soundscapes. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ LOL...nowadays, when Dan and I hear/read the word 'soundscapes,' we RUN!!!! Especially from paragraphs like, '[artist's name] summons up rich, crystalline <> evocative of distant times and places with {[his/her] array of digital samplers...feel transported to a place away from reality with musical inventions played across multi-timbral spectra; this is not sonic wall-paper, this is...} BLAH BLAH BLAH you get the idea hahahahahahahahahahaha E-Man ne: frosted mini-wheats From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 12:44 pm Subject: Re: The Rage of Steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Hi all, I just don't understand you people getting so upset over the fact that tdream isn't touring right now. I don't think the tour was cancelled I don't think it was ever happening anyway... And if youv'e followed them as long as I have (1973) you should know that they don't tour that much anyway... so just chill out sit back and enjoy thier music if you don't like a certian cd don't listen to it ( yes I too really dislike Tournado). Take care all Bye SR From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 1:05 am Subject: 'The Keep' can hide another one ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hi, tadreamers, I recently saw at one of my favorite CD shop (la fnac des Halles à Paris pour ceux qui connaissent) in the TD case : THE KEEP! Unfortunately, the photo didn't match with the one of the official web site. I took the CD to see and found out that it was a sort of tribute (another one). I don't remember the (two-part) name (I was so disappointed!) of the artist. There are several tracks from 'the keep' (not too many), 2 from 'firestarter' and olther TD soundtracks... including a medley! WHY NOT MIDI-FILES? (just kidding) BTW, I would like to know if anybody has (got or seen) the definitive edition of 'EXIT'... Regards, Fred np : Pat Metheny's Imaginary Day From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:20 pm Subject: Re: The Rage of Steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > I just don't understand you people getting so upset over the fact that tdream > isn't touring right now. Only Steven is...(just kidding, Steve) > I don't think the tour was cancelled I don't think it was ever happening > anyway... That's how I came to feel... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:41 pm Subject: Re: Exit SBM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robin Seed > >BTW, I would like to know if anybody has (got or seen) the definitive >edition of 'EXIT'... > Greetin's Dreamers & Fred Regarding the Definitive version of Exit, I have the following, 7243 8 40519 2 1 Tand 13 Virgin Records SBM Definitive Edition. This is a Silver Coloured Disc (same as Thief - Tand12 ) -I say this because all the others in the series that i have are White in Colour- I am not sure about the availability of Exit because I was lucky to have a friend of mine who was visiting London's HMV pick this copy up for me, This was the only one of the SBM series that I did not see at my local shops in Hong Kong. n.p Jaco Pastorius - Live in Montreal - *Mega amazing Bass Solo :)* From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:56 pm Subject: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: chris horn Due to computer problems I was not able to send out any mail regarding questions about subsription of DREAM COLLECTOR. Sorry for that! I will answer every single mail in the next days. Dream On Chris Horn DREAM COLLECTOR From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:43 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rich Maggio I think this is a great idea! When the webcast was done of the Shepherd's Bush concert, someone organized a channel to meet on so people could confer as the concert was going. As it turned out, it was more of a place for people to go to exchange information about why the web cast wasn't up. Nonetheless, I had a really pleasant chat with a number of people about TD and things in general. As Morgan points out, it isn't a great source of information about what is going on in TD land due to its format, so it isn't a replacement for the list. It's nice to chat with fellow TD fans in a format that isn't as tightly restricted to the TD topic as the list. Also, it's more personal. I'll have to drop by one of these days. Rich Maggio Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11517 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Sun 3/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 5:37 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:43 AM 3/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Rich Maggio > >I think this is a great idea! When the webcast was done of the >Shepherd's Bush concert, someone organized a channel to meet on >so people could confer as the concert was going. As it turned >out, it was more of a place for people to go to exchange information >about why the web cast wasn't up. Nonetheless, I had a really >pleasant chat with a number of people about TD and things in >general. As Morgan points out, it isn't a great source of information >about what is going on in TD land due to its format, so it isn't a >replacement for the list. It's nice to chat with fellow TD fans >in a format that isn't as tightly restricted to the TD topic as >the list. Also, it's more personal. > >I'll have to drop by one of these days. Man, this channel already has 4-5 regulars! Sure, there are often times that you'll come in and nobody is here/awake (I stay connected even if I am away from the computer) but from 6pm-midnight USA eastern standard time is the best time to find people... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 5:19 pm Subject: Re: help of sorts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rich Maggio > This is a perpetual problem for us. We find the British prices way too > expensive and the German postal costs exorbitant. There are only a handful Amen! I have found that there isn't one place that has what I want. I regularly deal with CD Connection, German Music Express, Groove (formerly Cue), and ProgTron. CD connection isn't big on imports, but I purchased Dream Mixes II and the 97 tour CD there. I always check there first since their prices are the most reasonable. I bought EF's Ages from Groove (the only place I could find it) and Redshift from ProgTron (the only place I could find it). Many times, I am just happy to have found a place that has a particular CD and don't concern myself with (or try to think to much about) the excessive cost. Case in point is Redshift. I tried to get it when the copies began to dry up. Ranjit was a god in my eyes when he had a copy to sell me :-). I hadn't heard of Eurock before - I'm going to check them out. Cool! If anyone wants the URL for any of these places, go to your favorite search engine and search. Otherwise, let me know if you are interested and I can post the URLs. Rich Maggio NP Animals - Pink Floyd From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 6:02 pm Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rich Maggio > Really-From: feldon@p... > > For those of you with free time on your hands, a #tadream channel has been > formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you I have found the channel, but I could only get on it when I connected to the EFFNET IRC server in TX. I connected to the MIT EFFNET server and the channel did not exist. Are not all EFFNET servers created equal? I would have thought that all EFFNET servers were connected together. Has anyone else had a similar experience? Thanks, Rich Maggio Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11553 Re: #tadream formed feldon@p... Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 7:26 pm Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Feb 28, 2:50pm, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: More B5 discs! > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > will be released soon... No other details were available. > > > MJ > > >-- End of excerpt from tadream mailing list Can we count on Dano (at SuperCollector) to have them soon? C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 7:31 pm Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Feb 28, 9:27pm, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) > Really-From: Tdune > > (...) > > If you think that tune cranks, I have a live version from a BBC radio show > that is even better than the studio version, I mean Dave Guilmour goes nuts on > that guitar!! >-- End of excerpt from tadream mailing list A few weeks back, PBS aired a show on fractals, hosted by Arthur C Clarke, featuring some really heavy guitar rock by Guilmour during the end credits. I don't believe that Guilmour released any solo albums since quite a while and I am wondering if that music is available at all... Anyone knows? C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 8:16 pm Subject: The Orgy!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer Well, I've received my copy of Electronic Orgy yesterday, and listened to the whole damn thing in one unbroken session (minus getting up to nuke some dinner). I just have to say one word... Wow! I could keep on saying the same things that were already said before here, so I won't. I'll talk about some other things about it. Like those Baumann/Schnitzler tracks... Pretty cool, I think; I like the vocoder part on the 4:08 to Paris, and The Russians are Coming reminds me a little bit of some of the stuff that Peter Schilling did back around that time. BTW, does anyone know where I can find Schilling's Error in the System on CD? Just thought I'd ask. I also like the Froese solo remixes at the start of disc 2. I like most of his solo work I've heard (I still have yet to hear Epsilon, most of Macula Transfer, most of Ages and most of Kamikaze, tho) and this stuff doesn't disappoint me. (I wonder about that NGC 891 remix tho, it doesn't sound anything like the original, as far as I could hear) I don't know why they put so much from 3 Phase on the set. The only track I thought needed to be included is Oriental Haze, since that is the way they played it live, not the version on 220 Volt. Also, why did they put the short version of A Time For Heroes on when it's just an edit of the long version? And why did they include the two tracks from the Private Music compilation, when it's still easy to get a hold of? When it came to Purple Haze, I was surprised to hear more crackles on it than most of the stuff that came from vinyl! What happened there? Oh well, I've got the original single anyway. I was surprised to hear Brother or Stranger in *stereo*, and it sounded nice and clear. It's also good to finally get to hear all of the Tatort singles, even tho I don't care for Chi Coltrane's vocals on I Just Wanna Rule My Own Life... The sound sampling of No Man's Land was really neat too, cuz I like to hear how songs are layered together, and learn what instruments did what. The vinyl transfers are fantastic! Most of the time I can't tell that they came from vinyl. But, I seem to notice a slight off-center effect on some of them. (it seems a little more noticable on the stuff from 7'ers) Oh well. But don't take my minor gripes wrong, I love the set, and am very glad I was able to get it. (I'm glad I didn't unsubscribe over the holiday, or I wouldn't have heard about it until too late!) But if TDI ends up reissuing all of this stuff, I'll be a little perturbed... No, I'll be quite pissed. But that's a risk you take when you buy ROIO's. (look at the Beatles' or Led Zeppelin's BBC recordings for instance) I bought this set assuming it was the only way I'd get to hear this stuff on CD. (at least the stuff I didn't already have) Also, the 'makers' of this album 'stole' a cover art idea that my band had a few years back when we were not yet serious, didn't have a bass player and we went by the name of Tittus Oats. :-) Dave B. np: EO disc 2 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 8:56 pm Subject: Re: 'One Of These Days' (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-01 14:34:21 EST, you write: << heavy guitar rock by Guilmour >> Sorry to be a stickler for details, but it's Gilmour...David Gilmour From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 5:59 am Subject: The importance of thinking things through... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) (SFX: warning klaxons ending, but continuing to echo; light changing from an ambient dark red to direct bright white; sigh of a chagrined and wiser user...) Greetins all- Sorry for having to cast this wide a net, but I don't have a choice... Last Wed. (19th), in my haste to recover an archived app, I accidentally ended up overwriting the in, out and address table of contents files for my mail program. This resulted in the loss of *ALL* addresses *ALL* mail from the last 7 months! So, to all of you with whom I'm trading, if you could be so kind as to resend any mail you feel is critical to said trades (status, items, etc...). I do have hard copies of some, but for others I simply have a name. Thanks muchly for your time and understanding. Boy, downloading a week+ worth of list traffic is a study in tedium...;) goozer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 11:08 pm Subject: Keep & smoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello, tadreamers. Thanks to my dictionary-friend 'Pepe' I know that the 'keep' cd that I saw was not a new release (1995). So I've been tricked twice, cause the store sticks a green-colored label on new releases (20% off) and this CD had one. No, I've not been tricked : I haven't bought it. Cheers, Fred. np : imaginary day (still a very VERY good CD) from PMG, especially tracks 2 & 7. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11530 Re: Keep & smoke Steven Feldman Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 11:15 pm Subject: Smoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' The previous mail was posted a little too early... I gave a two-part title and a single-part mail. I have a question for good TD connoisseurs: In the official site / FAQ / they say : no one in the TD family smokes. Is it a joke or a reality for nowadays only? I often saw Edgar smoking on albums' pictures... Thanks for any reply... although I won't change my mind upon TD's music on Edgar's smoking... would you? Fred Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11528 Re: Smoke Gabe Yedid Mon 3/2/1998 2 KB 11531 Re: Smoke Mike Szymendera Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 10:49 pm Subject: King Aeoulis (sp?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' Greetings! Does anyone know on what album Klaus Schulze's track entitled 'King Aeoulis' is? I had a request for that track at the station, and am wondering where I can get it... Thanks! -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html 'Don't work for my happiness, my brothers -- show me yours -- show me that it is possible -- show me your achievement -- and the knowledge will give me the courage for mine.' - Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 12:14 am Subject: Re: Smoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Well, at one time, I think that everybody in TD smoked *something*...I rememger photos from an old Virgin pressing of _Exit_ showing Ed, Chris, and Johannes all with cigarettes in hand. Obviously Ed, at least, kicked the habit between now and then. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 07:44:39 EST >Subject: Re: The Rage of Steven >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: SRiser3600 > >I just don't understand you people getting so upset over the fact that >tdream isn't touring right now. You misunderstood me. I don't give a rat's ass if TD is touring or not these days. Until they start playing non-LP material again -- even if it's as tepid as that on LIVEMILES -- I'm not gonna shell out for the Edgar & Jerome version of Milli Vanilli, Vanilla Ice, or whatever he/it/ they are called. ;) Okay, so there were some new tracks on 220 VOLT LIVE -- *that's* why 220 VOLT beats the snot out of TOURNADO. On any given day, I have less of a desire to play TOURNADO and/or AMBIENT MONKEYS than to play ZEIT, LEGEND, OPTICAL RACE, or ROCKOON. Sorry, Lars and Scott -- I know you love live TD -- but would you still get a big stiffie over shows that consisted of a playlist like the following? Nebulous Dawn (ZEIT) Penguin Reference (ROCKOON) Too Hot for My Chinchilla (LILLY ON THE BEACH) My Name is Bad Hair (DEAD SOLID PERFECT) Fort Worth Runway One (GOBLINS' CLUB) Sojus (UK DREAM MIXES; sorry, but I prefer Iowa to this turkey) Tyger (TYGER, duh) Cool at Heart (MELROSE) Cedar Breaks (OASIS) Colorado Dawn (CANYON DREAMS bonus track) Roaring of the Bliss (PRIVATE MUSIC OF TD) Beavertown (PRIVATE MUSIC OF TD) Hyuk nuck nuck. ;) -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11532 D: Tournado (Was: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you Jim Moore Mon 3/2/1998 4 KB 11534 Re: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't. ;) Sean Montgomery Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: Keep & smoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 00:08:19 +0100 >Subject: Re: Keep & smoke >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?= [what *is* all that?] > >Thanks to my dictionary-friend 'Pepe' I know that the 'keep' cd that I >saw was not a new release (1995). [. . .] What that is is 'THE KEEP BY THE FANTASY MERCHANTS,' which has cuts from THE KEEP, SORCERER, RISKY BUSINESS, FIRESTARTER and HEARTBREAKERS on it. According to Klaus Beschorner, it's scarce, so buying it would not be too dumb an idea. The music isn't bad, either, except in the case of one track (I think it was LOVE ON A REAL TRAIN). The medley is of the SORCERER material. -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: Smoke ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mikey@n... (Mike Szymendera) On the 3-phase video, you can see Edgar 'lighting up' in one of the scenes of early TD ..... (at least, it looks like the back/side of Edgar's head :) On the NTSC laserdisk this is in CH 12 ... I was always under the impression that smoking in Europe was not as 'taboo' as in the US .. isn't Europe (and Asia) the new market that the slime-ball US tobacco compnaies are trying to now exploit (to make up for lost US market share) ???? In any event, I'm glad Edgar decided to kick the habit.. perhaps he'll be around for a number of more years, crankin' out the tunes .... --mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 2:30 am Subject: D: Tournado (Was: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' Okay, so there were some new tracks on 220 VOLT >LIVE -- *that's* why 220 VOLT beats the snot out of TOURNADO. > On any given day, I have less of a desire to play TOURNADO and/or >AMBIENT MONKEYS than to play ZEIT, LEGEND, OPTICAL RACE, or ROCKOON. > Sorry, Lars and Scott -- I know you love live TD -- but would you >still get a big stiffie over shows that consisted of a playlist like >the following? Okay, this is really starting to get to hackle me... * Rant on* Who on this list DID NOT know what was going to be on TOURNADO before they purchased it? Before it was released, there was a detailed description of the album stating that it was going to be a completely straight-forward cut from the concert, and the playlist of that had been posted several times. There were even people on the list who had been to some of the venues. Oh yeah, there was even a complete Real Audio preview of the album (from a different concert, true, but close enough)... I really don't understand those who are complaining about this album; were you seriously expecting something else than what was explicitly stated that was going to be on it? I'm not saying that you don't have a right to complain -- it's a free-speech zone here -- but you really start to bring your intelligence into question when you have that much information about an album at your disposal, purchase it anyway, then bitch about how much you dislike it... *Rant off* - jim (Happily playing: Ambient Monkeys) 'If you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 4:05 am Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' > > On Feb 28, 2:50pm, tadream mailing list wrote: > > Subject: More B5 discs! > > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > > > > > > > According to the Sonic Images web page a second series of episodic CDs > > will be released soon... No other details were available. > > > > > > MJ > > > > > >-- End of excerpt from tadream mailing list > > Can we count on Dano (at SuperCollector) to have them soon? > > C.B. Vincent Goudreault > online since early 93, TD fan since 77 > first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet Considering we at SC carry everything B5 that exists...you could say that we'll have them probably before anyone else AND at better prices. We sell bricks of 5 for only $50. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 4:19 am Subject: Re: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Personally, I'm sort of glad that they postponed the North American tour, in that it suggests that when they do show up, it'll be with new material and a new stage set-up. If TD hit the road now, you can be sure it'd be with another Tournado-type lineup. Better that they should take their time rather than throw it together. I must confess that the whole 'new concerts vs. old concerts' debate has new resonance for me now that I've been exposed to recordings of TDs 1980, 81, 82 and 86 tours. Here, even when they played material from the studio albums, it was altered enough to make it unpredictable. There's a greater sense of keyboards being *played* too. But this has all been argued here at length already, so I'll stow it. > Sojus (UK DREAM MIXES; sorry, but I prefer Iowa to this turkey) Oh Steve, you're just being difficult. Come on, admit it...you really love Sojus. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 10:32 am Subject: Re: Dream Collector, 25 CDs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > TDI plan to release 25 CDs one after another, some are re-releases of > > former records.... > > I really hope they don't add a bonus track to each of them in an effort to > get us to buy the re-issues (a la Rockoon, Tyranny, TOTT....) At least the Tyranny one is a picture disk as well! (Doesn't really work on a CD granted!) Didn't know they'd done Rockoon and TOTT as well though.. Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 1, 1998 4:28 pm Subject: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Ahh....again the plea for Edgar/Jerome to give up their new direction of pre-programmed music ('Tournado'......which I thought was great!) and go back to their root style.......interesting comment made by Edgar in an interview with 'Voyager' magazine and with which I agree entirely: 'Your life curve and the bands one for half or a year runs exactly parallel and for that period it clicked. And then maybe your life went that way and ours moved that way . (ie different directions) Now the both of us when we meet will say 'OK lets talk about that time' Now we are maybe on a complete different trip music-wise and a lot of people say 'What are they doing?' All right, please do us one favour, stop buying our records and stop complaining and live with what you've got, live with Rubycon and Ricochet' The other thing is some people go out and buy every TD record. What for? Just to find out if there's a bit of Rubycon on it! ' Thats telling them Ed!! Oh Andrew - can you give me contact Minettes details?? Thanks (rushing off as the cat stalks warily the pigeons!!) Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11551 Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11552 Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 1:11 pm Subject: RE: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >This made me recall an old 'funny' thread (over a year ago) whereby someone >in Florida saw a guy driving in a pick-up truck (as I recall) that had >Tangerine Dream painted on it. The deal was that this guy didn't look like a >TD fan and everyone started debated as to what a TD fan should look like. >I'd say look in the mirror on a good day :-) Maybe we all look like Eli or >Dano, heh heh? Might have been me. I saw an orange Mustang with 'Tangerine Dream' on the top of the windshield, and hip-hop so loud it rattled my car windows. Infidel! Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 2:27 pm Subject: new music on TD tours ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean One way of hearing new music on a tour is to do what TD did in 1986... The music at the concerts was 'new' at the time, but much of it was released AFTER the tour as Underwater Sunlight... True, this goes against the convention of touring to support an album, but with the amount of new material coming out lately, there could be more than enough new music to go around... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 4:01 pm Subject: RE: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >He also looks like an hispanic Ken Foree hahahahaha...with hair down to >his ass of course. Hahahaa! Hey, did you know ol' Ken's on some kid's show on Nickelodeon now? Totally bald, too. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 4:29 pm Subject: DJ Shadow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' I saw a DJ Shadow video on eMpTyV last night...(this is the guy who utilizes TD samples in his music)...I believe it was David Kuznick who mentioned him before...the music was kickin'! Great drum programming...is this readily available in all stores, David/anybody? E-Man Elias Granillo, Jr. upnsm0ke@g... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11543 Re: DJ Shadow Sean Montgomery Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 4:43 pm Subject: RE: Dream Collector ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >>DC: THE TOUR! What was the news in DC about the US tour? >> >You DON'T want to know. :-(( >> Oh yes I do! I assume they're not coming, but is there any >>reason why? >''Organizational reasons,' Edgar and Jerome Froese said to Dream Collector.' >Sorry, Scott. I am bummed out too. 'Moving their studio?' Just get a few buddies, a truck, a few pizzas and some beer and have it done on a Saturday, what's the big deal? I dunno what I more bummed about: that they're not touring or that it took me a week of begging for someone to post the info! Rule of thumb: Never trust Miramar. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 5:05 pm Subject: RE: The Rage of Steven ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >And if youv'e followed them as long as I have (1973) you should know that they >don't tour that much anyway... so just chill out sit back and enjoy thier >music if you don't like a certian cd don't listen to it ( yes I too really >dislike Tournado). I beg to differ. 1979, 1985, 1991, 1993, 1994 are the only years in their career they've not played live. Not bad. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 5:06 pm Subject: Re: DJ Shadow ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I saw a DJ Shadow video on eMpTyV last night...(this is the guy who > utilizes TD samples in his music) He uses LOTS of samples! The song that samples 'Invisible Limits' is called Changelling, and it's on his debut album, 'Endtroducing'. > is this readily available in all stores, David/anybody? 'Endtroducing' should still be readilly available. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 7:28 pm Subject: Re: Driving, Watching, and Listening ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >He also looks like an hispanic Ken Foree hahahahaha...with hair > down to > >his ass of course. Hahahaa! > > Hey, did you know ol' Ken's on some kid's show on Nickelodeon > now? Totally bald, too. > > Scott Shame on you for knowing that heh heh heh. Actually, we'd already heard what Ken's been up to these days. Heck, he never had hair to begin with. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 6:50 pm Subject: RE: Tournado (Was: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Who on this list DID NOT know what was going to be on TOURNADO >before they purchased it? Before it was released, there was a detailed Hey, I _like_ Tournado! It's the only release of Emil's drum solo, and I think the versions of the songs are much better live than in the studio. Scott NE: Mujaderra Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11548 Re: Tournado (Was: No TD Tour? I won't cry if yo Greg Heil Mon 3/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 8:42 pm Subject: RE: help of sorts! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Does anybody know for certain if 'The Keep' is now out in the States on the >official release (as against the limited edition concert version).....if >so which label is it on (Virgin?) and what is the catalogue number? A >stockist would also be useful. I was at Borders yesterday, and they had an extensive TD collection, but no Keep. I piked up Pergamon with an employee discount (I also work at Walden's) for $9. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 9:12 pm Subject: D: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Tournado - Tangerine Dream Live TDI1008CD Recorded live on April 23rd 1997 at the 'Dome Muziki i Tanca' in the city of Zabrze in Poland. 1. Drum Solo 3:41 2. Flashflood 7:49 3. 220 Volt (Big Bolt Version) 8:18 4. Firetongues 7:11 5. Girls On Broadway 5:07 6. Little Blond In The Park Of Attractions 7:40 7. Rising Haul In Silence 7:49 8. Lamb With Radar Eyes (Lost Lamb Version) 7:42 9. Touchwood 7:40 10. Towards The Evening Star 7:03 Total Running Time 70:00 As usual, I'd like to start with the low points on the album. The obvious low point is that all of the music on this album has appeared before. There's nothing new on show here, unless you count Emil's drum solo, and the bridges between the tracks. Saying that, the tracks actually chosen for the live set are pretty good. You could look at this as a 'best of' compilation from their last half a dozen studio albums. Given the albums that the material comes from, we could have ended up with an album that completely sucked. The other low point for me has to be the first track. Emil Hachfeld is clearly technically adept, and having seen TD live at Manchester in '97, his playing clearly added some zest to the show, but three minutes of drum solo at the start of an album doesn't achieve much. I think that sort of solo placed in the middle of a long track has more effect. You know, take the music down, start a very basic solo, build up the complexity, build up the rhythm and with the audience in the palm of your hand, the whole band burst back into live in an explosion of sequences and melodies.... There are no obvious high points on this album. All of the tracks on here are good tracks, but not exceptional. My favourite bits are 220 Volt, especially from the 3 minute mark when it starts to go all Risky Business, Firetongues, and Little Blond In The Park Of Attractions, which is the Thai Dub version from Dream Mixes. Touchwood is also the Dream Mixes version, with a great bridge into Towards The Evening Star, which must be my favourite track from the last couple of years. Very active and dynamic. Overall, this album is mainly for completists, or for people like me that went to the concert and want a momento. Nicely presented, good colourful artwork which is carried onto the disk itself, It's a really lively album, with good choice of tracks, but if you already have the material contained within, you may be largely disappointed. Now if this had been a double album with the first set included, I'd be raving about it... Lawry Simm. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11555 Re: D: Tournado Colin Knowles Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11607 Re: D: Tournado Dennis Nigbur Wed 3/4/1998 4 KB 11770 Re: D: Tournado TellMe1000 Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11774 Re: D: Tournado Tom Monaghan Sat 3/7/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 2, 1998 11:10 pm Subject: Re: Tournado (Was: No TD Tour? I won't cry if you don't.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > >Who on this list DID NOT know what was going to be on TOURNADO > >before they purchased it? Before it was released, there was a > detailed > > Hey, I _like_ Tournado! It's the only release of Emil's drum > solo, and I think the versions of the songs are much better live than in > the studio. > > Scott > > NE: Mujaderra I agree! How much I wish the 'Oasis' 'Waterborne' had that small sequence of Emil's drumming, and how much I wish for the cool lil bridge following 'Waterborne' to be in the 'Oasis' version! NP: Pink Floyd--'Meddle'/'Echoes' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Cripes. I'm not even going to bother to quote text for this little retort. ;) Repetitive as it is, I like Iowa. It's somewhat like the stuff on MIRACLE MILE and DEAD SOLID PERFECT in its bleak and spare arrangement, but it's really rather nice in many ways. But whatever the case may be, it's certainly nowhere *near* as boring as Cedar Breaks or some of the later tracks on SHY PEOPLE (I think one of 'em's called Civilized Illusions, or somesuch). I think Sojus is the single worst thing on the DREAM MIXES 2-CD set. It's all-over-the-place in the same way that much of TYRANNY OF BEAUTY and GOBLINS' CLUB (that final track on GC: yick, pooey!) are, and it manages to simultaneously be hyper and vapid at the same time-- sort of like Speed (from the TATORT 12'). As for that 'drum solo' from TOURNADO: what a waste of time. On those rare occasions that I actually play TOURNADO, I routinely skip this piece of crap. Sorry, but there's only one thing more pathetic than a drum solo, and that's a drum solo on synthetic drums. Snore. If I wanted something like that, I'd be buying rap albums or stuff by REO SPEEDWAGON (or Kraftwerk? hee hee) instead of TD. -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11556 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Plumer, Scott Tue 3/3/1998 2 KB 11561 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Michael Fox Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11557 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo TWeibre361 Tue 3/3/1998 2 KB 11558 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo feldon@p... Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11559 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Sean Montgomery Tue 3/3/1998 4 KB 11562 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11565 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo DAVENTURA Tue 3/3/1998 2 KB 11567 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Sean Montgomery Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB 11566 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo DAVENTURA Tue 3/3/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 2:16 am Subject: Borders (was RE: help of sorts!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 15:42 199803.02 -0500, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > I was at Borders yesterday, and they had an extensive TD >collection, but no Keep I found a copy of _Zoning_ @ Borders. Snapped that one up! musically-wise it's decent TD stuff Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 2:55 am Subject: Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 04:28 PM 3/1/1998 -0000, you wrote: >Oh Andrew - can you give me contact Minettes details?? Hi, Ash BACKROADS MUSIC Here is a great source for all kinds of titles and reviews in a catalog/magazine format. 'Heartbeats' is the name of the publication available from Backroads Music, 418 Tamal Plaza, Corte Madera, CA 94925. USA Tollfree number is 1-800-767-4748. http://www.backroadsmusic.com/ WINDSPELL MUSIC Their latest catalogue featuring the best in progressive, instrumental, electronic music as well as import albums at domestic US prices can be ordered from Windspell Music 1293 NW Wall #1515 Bend, OR 97701 USA Tollfree number is 800-238-2737 (answering machine) Toll number: 505-882-4830 No Web presence as yet. Hope this helps, although, they both seem to be keeping a fairly low profile. I don't understand why. :-( Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11552 Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 4:07 am Subject: Re: Too Busy Crankin' Out Product to Tour?!? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 08:55 PM 3/2/1998 -0600, I misspoke: Sorry, Ash...I screwed up....attached Minette's phone number to Windspell: Here it goes: Minette; (not on the Web) phone number: Tollfree number is 800-238-2737 (answering machine) Toll number: 505-882-4830 and Windspell's phone: 800-597-WIND. I called Minette and let him know that we are interested in hearing from him. Like, a snail mail address would be nice. If I hear from him I will relay the info. Sorry for the mix-up. Cheers, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 4:50 am Subject: Re: #tadream formed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 01:02 PM 3/1/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: Rich Maggio > > >> Really-From: feldon@p... >> >> For those of you with free time on your hands, a #tadream channel has been >> formed on the EFNET group of IRC (Internet Relay Chat) servers. If you > >I have found the channel, but I could only get on it when I connected >to the EFFNET IRC server in TX. I connected to the MIT EFFNET server >and the channel did not exist. Are not all EFFNET servers created >equal? >I would have thought that all EFFNET servers were connected together. >Has anyone else had a similar experience? EFNET is a NETWORK of IRC servers (hence the name EFNET). However, MIT's 'EFNET' server doesn't seem to be linked. Try any of these servers: irc.phoenix.net irc-e.primenet.com irc-w.primenet.com irc.choice.net irc.sprynet.com Morgan feldon@p... >Thanks, >Rich Maggio > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 8:01 am Subject: a parsons ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... agree about a parsons tales but what about turn of a friendly card phew what. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:47 am Subject: Re: D: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > Tournado - Tangerine Dream Live TDI1008CD > > Recorded live on April 23rd 1997 at the 'Dome Muziki i Tanca' in the city of > Zabrze in Poland. > One good point for me is that it was recorded on my birthday! Now if the concert hadbeen in Manchester as well...:-) > Overall, this album is mainly for completists, or for people like me that > went to the concert and want a momento. Nicely presented, good colourful The reason I bought it was actually so I could find out roughly what the gig was going to be like before I went! Its done it's job of preparing me for the show so now its being used as a door stop! Hehehe, not really! Its lying abandoned and un-used somewhere on my desk.. Colin 'Well, Dracular comes from Transelvania thieving his books about kleptomania. Johnny looked out from his bedroom window at shouted to his mum 'Fred Titmus!' ' - Half Man Half Biscuit From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 2:20 pm Subject: RE: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >those rare occasions that I actually play TOURNADO, I routinely skip >this piece of crap. Sorry, but there's only one thing more pathetic Gees, this isn't the happy Steven I used to know. What's gotten into to you lately? You're so full of bile, what happened to the old, happy Steven? Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11561 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Michael Fox Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 4:12 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-02 19:22:28 EST, you write: << Sorry, but there's only one thing more pathetic than a drum solo, and that's a drum solo on synthetic drums. >> guess uve never heard sly dunbar or style scott go at em, huh? tom w np: bob marley - atlanta 1976 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 4:33 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 06:19 PM 3/2/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > Cripes. I'm not even going to bother to quote text for this little >retort. ;) > Repetitive as it is, I like Iowa. It's somewhat like the stuff on >MIRACLE MILE and DEAD SOLID PERFECT in its bleak and spare arrangement, WHAT?!?!?!?! Miracle Mile DESTROYS 'Iowa'!!!!!!!!!! >but it's really rather nice in many ways. But whatever the case may be, >it's certainly nowhere *near* as boring as Cedar Breaks > I think Sojus is the single worst thing on the DREAM MIXES 2-CD >set. It's all-over-the-place in the same way that much of TYRANNY OF >BEAUTY and GOBLINS' CLUB (that final track on GC: yick, pooey!) If Sojus had been 20 minutes long, it would have been greater. I like all the little segments in it, they simply aren't explored longer than 30 seconds each. > As for that 'drum solo' from TOURNADO: what a waste of time. On >those rare occasions that I actually play TOURNADO, I routinely skip >this piece of crap. I heard it over the simulcast. Once was enough =) And yes, synthetic drums bore me to death too... Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11559 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Sean Montgomery Tue 3/3/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 4:51 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > Repetitive as it is, I like Iowa. It's somewhat like the stuff on > >MIRACLE MILE and DEAD SOLID PERFECT in its bleak and spare arrangement, > > WHAT?!?!?!?! Miracle Mile DESTROYS 'Iowa'!!!!!!!!!! Here here! I wouldn't put them in the same category either. Iowa just doesn't stand out for me, whereas Miracle Mile is my favourite 'Private Music' era album. > If Sojus had been 20 minutes long, it would have been greater. I like all > the little segments in it, they simply aren't explored longer than 30 > seconds each. Yes and no. For whatever reason, Sojus works for me. Yeah, I've complained bitterly about how TD's 90s output too frequently jumps all over the place, but the difference here is that the propulsive rhythym ties it all together. A comparison can be made to 'Thief Yang..', which really *does* jump all over the place. I mean, it's more of a medley that a real song. Granted, I'm distracted by the fact that I know the original songs that it's sampling from and want to hear more of each, but what really ruins it is that not only does it shift melodic gears, but the beat and tempo constantly changes. If they'd spent a bit more time grafting on a continuous drum beat or slipping in interstitial music between segments, it could have worked nicely...as Sojus does, IMO. Or maybe it's just Sojus' early 90s New Order-ish sound that suckers me in. > > As for that 'drum solo' from TOURNADO: what a waste of time. > I heard it over the simulcast. Once was enough =) It's funny...maybe it was just the low-grade internet sound quality...but I liked the intro drum thing when I first heard it. It had a much more experimental, less pompous sound to it. When I first played Tournado I thought 'is this the same thing I heard?'. Now I skip over it too. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 7:07 pm Subject: Voyager Quote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Ash, Is that from an oldissue, or is the new issue out now? MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11563 Re: Voyager Quote ashok prema Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 2:40 pm Subject: RE: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 09:20 AM 3/3/98 -0500, you wrote: > Gees, this isn't the happy Steven I used to know. What's gotten >into to you lately? You're so full of bile, what happened to the old, >happy Steven? He was killed while crossing the street with a copy of THE KEEP in his hands. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 7:55 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: TWeibre361 > > > In a message dated 98-03-02 19:22:28 EST, you write: > > << Sorry, but there's only one thing more pathetic > than a drum solo, and that's a drum solo on synthetic drums. >> > > > guess uve never heard sly dunbar or style scott go at em, huh? Tom's right...I saw Bill Bruford's Earthworks at the Strand (San Juan Capistrano) years ago, and he made those drums TALK. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 7:59 pm Subject: Re: Voyager Quote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' -----Original Message----- From: Michael A Jean To: ashok prema Cc: tadream list Date: 03 March 1998 19:12 Subject: Voyager Quote > >Ash, > >Is that from an oldissue, or is the new issue out now? > >MJ > > > Out now in a double issue magazine format.....a lot of reading!! Ash From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 8:29 pm Subject: 5th ALFA ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL --- LAST CALL ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Snelders, Eric' 5th ALFA CENTAURI ELECTRONIC MUSIC FESTIVAL SATURDAY MARCH 21, 1998 THEATRE 3-in-1 HUIZEN the NETHERLANDS PLEASE NOTICE: ADVANCED BOOKING PERIOD IS CLOSING =============================================== please be aware that the advanced booking period closes at march 15, 1998 only limited amount of tickets available ! with concerts of ARC (Ian Boddy and Mark Shreeve) Mark Jenkins, Alquimia and Paul Nagle Rainbow Serpent Mario Schonwalder & Detlef Keller Syndromeda live modular moogs ! video projections and computer animations, real-live-musicians on screen ! demonstrations of BMI (Steinberg) and Mopro (Emagic, Audiowerk) lots, lots of stalls with magazines, books, sample CD's, CD/records, synths, software, studio equipment, new instruments from NAMM: Yamaha, Korg, etc. trade exchange 2 stages (main concert hall and first floor) hundreds of fans from different countries musicians, producers, distributors, radio, magazines etc. plenty of food and drinks theatre opens 11.45 hours first concert starts at 12.45 hours last concert ends 23.00 hours theatre closes 24.00 hours if you are not reserving your tickets in advance, please make sure to be in time at the box-office, because we cannot guarantee that tickets will be available later on the day ! if you want to reserve tickets from the Netherlands: by transferring the amount to ABN AMRO account nr 55.44.80.638 attn of Stichting Alfa-Centauri, bank's giro nr 32750 from all other countries: by sending an eurocheque or cash money (hidden in envelope) to Stichting alfa-centauri, PO Box 1131, NL-1270 BC Huizen payments after march 15 cannot be processed ! for more info: Stichting alfa-centauri, PO Box 1131, NL-1270 BC Huizen, the Netherlands or phone/fax: +31 (0)35-5265635 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:01 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-03 14:45:44 EST, you write: << He was killed while crossing the street with a copy of THE KEEP in his hands. >> Oh God, I have actually bust a gut. BTW, was just listening to Dolphin Dance from Underwater Sunlight. Damn, that's a cool tune. Of course, that's just my opinion I could be wrong...David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11567 Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo Sean Montgomery Tue 3/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:06 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-03 15:00:09 EST, you write: << I saw Bill Bruford >> I've 'seen' Bill half a dozen times. I highlight the word 'seen' because I feel Mr. Bruford must be 'experienced', not seen. If we could just get Bill and Edgar and maybe Steve Howe together...and Johannes could be the Special Guest....The Ultimate TD 'experience'.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:07 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > BTW, was just listening to Dolphin Dance from Underwater Sunlight. Damn, > that's a cool tune. Of course, that's just my opinion I could be wrong Hearing Dolphin Dance on the radio back in 1986 was what inspired me to buy my first TD album - Underwater Sunlight. And then my second TD album, and the third, fourth, 30th, etc. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:29 pm Subject: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Just put on Rubycon, better roll a fatty. They had to have been when they recorded it....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11572 Re: Now Playing Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11575 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11589 Re: Now Playing Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11576 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11595 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11577 Re: Now Playing Greg Heil Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11583 Re: Now Playing Plumer, Scott Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11601 Re: Now Playing Antonio Nunes Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11603 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 9:54 pm Subject: messages to lars ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> dreamers things are really chaotic at the moment; I know I owe replies to many of you--I've got a mail box full--but it just ain't going to happen for the next few days; sorry! I'll try to reply just as soon as is possible. lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 11:17 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >Hearing Dolphin Dance on the radio back in 1986 was what inspired me to >buy my first TD album - Underwater Sunlight. And then my second TD album, >and the third, fourth, 30th, etc. > > >SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator My sister recommended Force Majeure to me in '86. The rest, they say, is history. Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 3, 1998 11:22 pm Subject: Re: More B5 discs! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Mar 1, 8:05pm, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Re: More B5 discs! (...) > > > > Can we count on Dano (at SuperCollector) to have them soon? > > > > C.B. Vincent Goudreault > > online since early 93, TD fan since 77 > > first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet > > > Considering we at SC carry everything B5 that exists...you could say > that we'll have them probably before anyone else AND at better prices. > We sell bricks of 5 for only $50. > > Dano >-- End of excerpt from tadream mailing list Well, keep me informed when the new stuff gets in (I already got the brick from you, remember?) C.B.V.Goudreault From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 12:21 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > Just put on Rubycon, better roll a fatty. They had to have been when they > recorded it....David No, they are adamant that they had given up on drugs by that point. _Rubycon_ is simply the culmination of a style that I think (unlike others here) they had beaten into the ground over the past 3 years. They didn't need to roll fatties anymore by this point, because creating that sound was second nature to them by that point, whatever state of mind they were in. And thus they were ready for _Stratosfear_... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:42 am Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dave Brewer > Quoted From: Steven Feldman > > As for that 'drum solo' from TOURNADO: what a waste of time. On > those rare occasions that I actually play TOURNADO, I routinely skip > this piece of crap. Sorry, but there's only one thing more pathetic > than a drum solo, and that's a drum solo on synthetic drums. Snore. Hmmm... That's funny, I thought they were real drums. (being a drummer, I should recognize such things! :-) ) I didn't make it to any of the shows in person, but the pictures I've seen of them and the sounds I hear lead me to believe that most of the things Emil hit were acoustic instruments. (I'm guessing the 'Codotronic' is responsible for the electronic sounds we hear him play) Now how 'bout that synth-drum solo played during the 88 tour? Dave B. np: The Park is Mine (so nobody can have it! :-) ) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 3:03 am Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-03-03 16:12:41 EST, you write: << I've 'seen' Bill half a dozen times. I highlight the word 'seen' because I feel Mr. Bruford must be 'experienced', not seen. If we could just get Bill and Edgar and maybe Steve Howe together...and Johannes could be the Special Guest....The Ultimate TD 'experience'.... >> I still say that the best concert I have ever seen (witness) is King Crimson (Bill Bruford on Drums). I mean, I had no idea what was in for when I when in to the concert hall, then I saw Bill's strange drum set, when he started to play it was amazing!! This was before their album 'Disciple' came out .The best concert have ever seen!! (Close second, Motorhead at L'Amours in Brooklyn) Marcelo G. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:40 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-03 19:24:30 EST, you write: << They didn't need to roll fatties anymore by this point >> Because they had enough cash to hire someone else to do it? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11589 Re: Now Playing Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:39 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-03 19:24:30 EST, you write: << And thus they were ready for _Stratosfear_... >> What about Ricochet, which was also released in 1975. Stratosfear wasn't until '76. BTW, both of these albums will start collecting dust again at my house. n.p. Force Majeure...When they really started to sound good... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11595 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 5:04 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > In a message dated 98-03-03 19:24:30 EST, you write: > > << And thus they were ready for _Stratosfear_... >> > > What about Ricochet, which was also released in 1975. Stratosfear wasn't until > '76. BTW, both of these albums will start collecting dust again at my house. > > n.p. Force Majeure...When they really started to sound good... I'd pick 'Encore' over 'Force Majeure' and over a lot of other albums too. I usually wear those short little tracks out too quickly on current releases. I mean the stuff on 'Encore' is the whole plate of everything.. a little sour, a little sweet, some bitter.. some somewhat salty. I usually like things that need an aquired taste, such as the last track on 'Encore' How these people loved it at the show having heard it once is beyond me-- but that's not considering drug use at the time which can make water in a sink become the most hilarious thing in the world. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 10:27 am Subject: some TD humor ok guys a little td humor for ya... keep in mind that none of the following is necessarly true. ------------------- I was going in my local cd shop yesterday, saw a huge display of electronic orgy box sets for sale $5 bucks a set (no limit) right beside the stack of zoo of tranquillity cd at the outrageus price of $1 a piece (again no limit). I said 'hell no, I'm looking for rockoon!' so I go to the td section, hey a keep cd, cant pass it up. so I get home, theres this woman singing on here.... wait a minute, the credits read: 'lead vocals: edgar froese (with a little help from chris franke)' sounds painful. I wonder if i sould have pick up a few keep lps while I was up there, heck they were only a nickel a piece, they had about 50 of em. maybe tomorrow. later rr Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11590 Re: some TD humor Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 10:55 am Subject: Re: a bit o humour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Great humour, Riley :-) >I wonder if i sould have pick up a few keep lps while I was up there, heck they were only a >nickel a piece, they had about 50 of em. maybe tomorrow. You're lyin', u sly devil. Bet u already picked up a copy, eh ? Dunno 'nickel', btw. How much bucks is a nickel ? Less than a tender or a Heiermann ? Take care 'bout us non Yanks. ;) TTFN Jens ---------------------------------------------------- THE KEEP CAME OUT IN 1997 - ED FROESE CAN'T BE WRONG ---------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11582 Re: a bit o humour SRiser3600 Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11586 Re: a bit o humour Plumer, Scott Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11588 Re: a bit o humour Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11587 Re: a bit o humour Plumer, Scott Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 1:09 pm Subject: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Please welcome TD's newest fan: Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) 8 pounds 15.4 Ounces 21 1/2 inches everyone is doing well! L&D OSTs: TD '220 Volt Live'; Sade 'Diamond Life'; Vangelis 'Antarctica'; Deuter 'Nirvana Road: :-) lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11581 please welcome td's newest fan! jpeschke@s... Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11591 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11592 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! John M. Poer Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11596 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11600 Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 4 KB 11670 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Gabe Yedid Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11593 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! DJS Wed 3/4/1998 4 KB 11594 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Marcel Engels Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11598 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Michael Fox Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 1:03 pm Subject: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Congratulations and all the best, Lars and family :-) Take care Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:04 pm Subject: Re: a bit o humour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? ?????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:30 pm Subject: RE: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Just put on Rubycon, better roll a fatty. They had to have been when they >recorded it....David I dunno. Ed said they stopped doing drugs in '73, and Schroyder was forced out in '71 because of his excessive drug use. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:38 pm Subject: RE: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I still say that the best concert I have ever seen (witness) is King Crimson >(Bill Bruford on Drums). TD '86 was far and away the best for me, and I saw Pink Floyd's Wall tour, their '87 & '94 tours, and many, many others. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:39 pm Subject: tangerine ambience 2 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean If for some reason someone was still lookng for this, I saw it in a local shop... Anybody have some TANGO? MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:55 pm Subject: RE: a bit o humour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Dunno 'nickel', btw. How much bucks is a nickel ? Less than a tender or a >Heiermann ? A nickel is a coin made of nickel, (melted down from the crosses in The Keep :-) and it's values is 5 cents, or .05 of a dollar, or about 10 pfennig. It's got a picture of Thomas Jefferson on it. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11588 Re: a bit o humour Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 2:53 pm Subject: RE: a bit o humour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >A nickel [...] TVM for the useful information. :-) Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:15 pm Subject: RE: a bit o humour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > >Dunno 'nickel', btw. How much bucks is a nickel ? Less than a > tender or a > >Heiermann ? > > A nickel is a coin made of nickel, (melted down from the crosses > in The Keep :-) and it's values is 5 cents, or .05 of a dollar, or about > 10 pfennig. It's got a picture of Thomas Jefferson on it. > > Scott Except in Canada, where it has Queen Elizabeth on one side and a beaver on the other. A Canadian nickel, though, couldn't buy one of these Keeps. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:54 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > << They didn't need to roll fatties anymore by this point >> > > Because they had enough cash to hire someone else to do it? In 1975? I think not. They were still hauling around their own equipment in a van at that point. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:55 pm Subject: Re: some TD humor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > ok guys a little td humor for ya... keep in mind that none of the following is > necessarly true. Or necessarily funny, for that matter. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 4:57 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Please welcome TD's newest fan: > > Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) Congrats, Lars! I imagine this will spark a whole new 'Which TD album Do Babies Like?' discussion thread! :-) BTW, my parents inform me that I was fascinated by The Beatles 'Let it Be' as an infant. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 5:05 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 08:09 AM 3/4/1998 -0500, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches > >everyone is doing well! > >L&D OSTs: TD '220 Volt Live'; Sade 'Diamond Life'; Vangelis 'Antarctica'; >Deuter 'Nirvana Road: > >:-) >lars > Lars, Congratulations to all of you. TD can never have too many fans. Enjoy! John M. Poer Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11596 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Gabe Yedid Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11600 Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 4 KB 11670 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Gabe Yedid Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 6:33 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > Please welcome TD's newest fan: > > Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) > Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) > 8 pounds 15.4 Ounces > 21 1/2 inches > > everyone is doing well! > > L&D OSTs: TD '220 Volt Live'; Sade 'Diamond Life'; Vangelis 'Antarctica'; > Deuter 'Nirvana Road: > > :-) > lars Congrats there Lars! Yer not gonna stop with just one are you? Heh. So, what's the first TD tune he gets to hear? Now, you know if you let him hear Force Majeure first he'll grow up to be a guitar virtuoso. Enjoy them while they're babies heh, they grow up fast! Before you know it, he'll go from being on the covers of your solo work to being in your band! Just don't let him take over when you leave the band heh heh. Take care, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 5:33 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) CONGRATULATIONS, Lars (and wife of course!) Now tell me: how can you tell already he will be a TD-fan? :-)) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 5:50 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:39 PM 3/3/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >In a message dated 98-03-03 19:24:30 EST, you write: > ><< And thus they were ready for _Stratosfear_... >> > >What about Ricochet, which was also released in 1975. Stratosfear wasn't until >'76. BTW, both of these albums will start collecting dust again at my house. > >n.p. Force Majeure...When they really started to sound good... Force Majeure was their first good album? HEATHEN! BURN!!! I love Phaedra, Rubycon, and Live Improvised to DEATH... (And Stratosfear to a somewhat lesser extent) Force Majeure is a gem, as is Encore 1977. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 5:55 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid A hearty congrats to all the Joneses! On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > > TD can never have too many fans. Amen! This one'll keep our average age down. Just make sure he never gets sucked into the Great Pop Pap Machine ;) > Enjoy! > > John M. Poer Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 6:22 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Hi, I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to Tdream most seem very young! Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11604 Re: curious DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11608 Re: curious John M. Poer Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11610 Re: curious Plumer, Scott Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11612 Re: curious Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11613 Re: curious DAVENTURA Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11614 Re: curious Brian M. Frick Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11615 Re: curious Marcel Engels Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11627 Re: curious Gabe Yedid Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11616 Re: curious Tom Monaghan Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 1:48 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 08:09 AM 3/4/98 -0500, you wrote: >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches Lars, Congratulations, my friend!! I will fire up a nice stogey for you this evening! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 6:48 pm Subject: RE: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS CONGRATS LARS (and family) !!!! Now by the time he is 6 or seven he should be old enuff to take to the Jerome headed TD shows!!!! Best wishes and may your diaper changing skills be shapened ever more! Christopher Please welcome TD's newest fan: Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) 8 pounds 15.4 Ounces 21 1/2 inches everyone is doing well! L&D OSTs: TD '220 Volt Live'; Sade 'Diamond Life'; Vangelis 'Antarctica'; Deuter 'Nirvana Road: :-) lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:02 pm Subject: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery Tangerine Dream has always denied that their name was derived from the lyrics of 'Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds', instead claiming that it was actually some word puzzle...an acronym or an anagram. Well, it occurred to me that there is a site on the web that gives you all possible anagrams for a given set of words. I ran Tangerine Dream through and got HUNDREDS of possibilities. Here are some of the more interesting results: I'm a green rent ad A ten rig meander Danger in a meter Darn teen mirage Eager men darn it Arid german teen I rant and emerge enter amid anger Greet me and I ran Rain, tree and gem Nag and retire me Mir and Green Tea Meet era and grin green men at raid aid green men art Red martian gene mad at err in gene Mad art engineer Trainman degree Rent greed mania arrange end time tired Reagan men an ardent regime made nina regret Mean genre triad tree name in drag Get anne married maiden art genre ain't mere garden neater midrange garner dementia Remainder agent Endgame terrain Renegade martin I eat gardner men regret Mann idea rent german idea Edgar at inner me me nine Edgar art Edgar retina men Inner Edgar meat Edgar inner team Edgar men earn it Tin men are edgar SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11670 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Gabe Yedid Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:04 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes DAVENTURA wrote: > n.p. Force Majeure...When they really started to sound good... Your usual phrase 'Of course, that's just my opinion I could be wrong...' would have been very appropriate this time ;-) Antonio np: Keller & Schoenwaelder 'Loops & Beats' disc 1 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:30 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:09:51 -0500 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > > Please welcome TD's newest fan: > > Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) > Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) > 8 pounds 15.4 Ounces > 21 1/2 inches > > everyone is doing well! > > L&D OSTs: TD '220 Volt Live'; Sade 'Diamond Life'; Vangelis 'Antarctica'; > Deuter 'Nirvana Road: > > :-) > lars Congratulations, Lars and family, and all the best! Which is his favourite album then?? Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:33 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-04 14:15:10 EST, you write: << 'Of course, that's just my opinion I could be wrong...' >> But I thought I was right this time....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:30 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA I will be 36 on the 12th. I was first exposed to TD in 1978. BTW, Congratulations Lars. He is a BIG boy already, huh?.....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:39 pm Subject: Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > I'm a green rent ad > A ten rig meander > Danger in a meter > Darn teen mirage > Eager men darn it > Arid german teen > I rant and emerge > enter amid anger > Greet me and I ran > Rain, tree and gem > Nag and retire me > Mir and Green Tea > Meet era and grin > green men at raid > aid green men art > Red martian gene > mad at err in gene > Mad art engineer > Trainman degree > Rent greed mania > arrange end time > tired Reagan men > an ardent regime > made nina regret > Mean genre triad > tree name in drag > Get anne married > maiden art genre > ain't mere garden > neater midrange > garner dementia > Remainder agent > Endgame terrain > Renegade martin > I eat gardner men > regret Mann idea > rent german idea > Edgar at inner me > me nine Edgar art > Edgar retina men > Inner Edgar meat > Edgar inner team > Edgar men earn it > Tin men are edgar So how long did it take you to come up with those? E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11609 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Plumer, Scott Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB 11611 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Sean Montgomery Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11617 Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' Tom Monaghan Wed 3/4/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:38 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Mon, 02 Mar 98 18:19:33 EST tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > I think Sojus is the single worst thing on the DREAM MIXES 2-CD > set. It's all-over-the-place in the same way that much of TYRANNY OF > BEAUTY and GOBLINS' CLUB (that final track on GC: yick, pooey!) are, > and it manages to simultaneously be hyper and vapid at the same time-- > sort of like Speed (from the TATORT 12'). How people differ...I _love_ Sojus! It's so nice to hear some of those string-y sounds sweeping in again, a nice sequencer line, and tons and tons of effects...this has to be my most-played Dream Mixes tune, before Virtually Fields! Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 7:42 pm Subject: Re: D: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:12:43 -0000 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > The other low point for me has to be the first track. Emil Hachfeld is > clearly technically adept, and having seen TD live at Manchester in '97, his > playing clearly added some zest to the show, but three minutes of drum solo > at the start of an album doesn't achieve much. I think that sort of solo > placed in the middle of a long track has more effect. You know, take the > music down, start a very basic solo, build up the complexity, build up the > rhythm and with the audience in the palm of your hand, the whole band burst > back into live in an explosion of sequences and melodies.... It probably doesn't work as well on the CD as it did on stage...apart from that, I thought his drum solo for the UK tour was even better than that for the European tour. > There are no obvious high points on this album. All of the tracks on here > are good tracks, but not exceptional. My favourite bits are 220 Volt, > especially from the 3 minute mark when it starts to go all Risky Business, is brilliant! I agree with you about that being one of the high points. Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 8:22 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 01:22 PM 3/4/1998 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: SRiser3600 > > >Hi, >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream >most seem very young! > >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 > OK, I'll play...... I got my first TD album from a friend who know I like what he called 'weird' music. It was Electronic Meditation, and he sent it to me from Germany (he was an Army officer at the time). The balloon rotted away long ago, but the album is fine. It was late in 1970, so I would have been 30. Both the album and I are somewhat older now. Oh well. I was number 51 in the TDIFC....still don't know how those other guys beat me out...... jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 8:55 pm Subject: RE: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Arid german teen There you have it. . . Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 9:00 pm Subject: RE: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream most seem very young! >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 First heard them in '83 at age 16. Watching The Soldier to be specific. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 8:55 pm Subject: Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > So how long did it take you to come up with those? They were created instantly by the Internet Anagram Server http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html Incidentally, I was inspired to submit the phrase 'Tangerine Dream' to the Anagram Genius Server, a similar site. It spat out a few more good ones: Die arrangement dire, neat German I am a nerd regent I'm a red-green ant I'm an eager trend Enrage tired man retarding enema SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 9:13 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to > Tdream Birthdate: July 22, 1971 First exposure: uncertain...probably on the original TV broadcast of 'Cosmos' in 1980...but I fell in love with their music when I first heard the opening music of the Risky Business soundtrack (1984) First TD album: Underwater Sunlight (1986), after which I immediately purchased 'Dream Sequence' SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 9:29 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-04 15:58:00 EST, you write: << Watching The Soldier to be specific. >> Not a bad film either. I have the original theater poster. n.p. TD...OST from Wavelength...I gotta rent this movie again. They are all over the map with one. Every tune is from something else I heard...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 8:44 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started > listening to > >Tdream most seem very young! Well, I first heard Phaedra in 92 when I got my first CD player. I was 14. That makes me 19 today, 20 tomorrow. Can you believe, after my first experience listening to *that*, that I would now have over 100 TD CDs? :-) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html 'Don't work for my happiness, my brothers -- show me yours -- show me that it is possible -- show me your achievement -- and the knowledge will give me the courage for mine.' - Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 8:56 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: SRiser3600 > >Hi, >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream >most seem very young! > >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 M.E. male 24 1st heard that terrible Rubycon (which I now love) in +/- 88 Marcel Engels Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11627 Re: curious Gabe Yedid Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:16 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >Hi, >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream >most seem very young! > >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 Age 18 in 1986. I was watching MTV and saw a video for Rendezvous 4 by Jean-Michel Jarre. So I went out and bought his entire discography. My sister noticed I was into that sort of thing so she recommended that I get Force Majeure, which I promptly did. Now I can't stop buying anything by TD. The thing that bums me the most is that I had a great opportunity to see TD in concert in Philadelphia in 1988 (or was it '89?) but passed it up to study for exams. Just one of those life decisions I wish I could go back and change. :/ Tom (Temporally Challenged) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:16 pm Subject: RE: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) > >Arid german teen > > There you have it. . . > > Scott I thought it was Inner Edgar meat. :/ Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:15 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Interesting that you have over 100 TD cds. I thought I had alot at 45 or so,,, Now I know I'm missing a few, soundtracks and such but how do you get 100 without repeating?? Thanks, Steve Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11620 Re: curious Lon Lowen Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB 11621 Re: curious John M. Poer Wed 3/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:22 pm Subject: Re: Optical Race Poster ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Hi, I have a framed poster from the Optical Race tour in Miami. its 40'x 28.5' any offers???? looks like the cd cover. Thanks, Steve From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:46 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Lon Lowen SRiser3600@a... (Steve) wrote: > Interesting that you have over 100 TD cds. > I thought I had alot at 45 or so,,, > Now I know I'm missing a few, soundtracks and such but how > do you get 100 without repeating?? It can certainly be done. I really don't know how many TD CDs I have exactly (I'm at work now), but there has to be well over 100. Includes singles and boots. Do we count the Froese, Haslinger, Franke, Schmoelling, Baumann, Schulz(sp?) solos? --lon -- Lon Lowen lllowen@n... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 4, 1998 11:52 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 06:15 PM 3/4/1998 EST, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: SRiser3600 > > >Interesting that you have over 100 TD cds. >I thought I had alot at 45 or so,,, >Now I know I'm missing a few, soundtracks and such but how do you get 100 >without repeating?? >Thanks, >Steve > Steve, I just did an 'eyeball' of my disks and there certainly are over a hundred. I freely admit that there are dupes in there, but if you start collecting all the releases in all the various labels and countries.....it gets to a hundred pretty fast... I really should do an exact count....soon :-). jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 12:10 am Subject: my favorite dreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... my first exposure to t dream was richochet i heard it on the saturday afternoon rock show with alan(fluff)freeman.i couldnt believe what i was hearing,sheer excellence, that was back in 76.but i think my favorite album was to come in the form of cyclone,madrigal merridan in particular. the afternoon rock show ended after that and there has not been anything to replace it.you guys in the states regularly talk about hearing t dream on the radio.sadly there is nothing like that anymore in england as far as i know, maybe someone knows better? listening to horns of doom............in my head as im at work on nights (snore) nick. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11629 Re: my favorite dreams DAVENTURA Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11693 Re: my favorite dreams AOutland Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 12:08 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'K.E' Hi My name is Kent Eskildsen, live in Denmark and I am 35 years old. My first exposure to TD must have been round 75 when I saw the Ricochet broardcast from Coventry cathedral - and I`ve been deeply into TD and synthmusic ever since. I have just finished a translation to english of my book called; 30 YEARS OF DREAMING TANGERINE DREAM 1967-1997 A GUIDED TOUR BY KENT BORREFJAELL ESKILDSEN 1997 if anyone`s interested in reading the TD story, this might be a good place to start. Kent np; The Mix - Kraftwerk (Very happy music!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:08 am Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 08:09 AM 3/4/1998 -0500, Lars wrote: >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches Welcome, Kieran! May your life be filled with dreams. And congratulations to mom and dad.:-) Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:42 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > Interesting that you have over 100 TD cds. > I thought I had alot at 45 or so,,, > Now I know I'm missing a few, soundtracks and such but how do you get 100 > without repeating?? > Thanks, > Steve Well, Steve, you buy every dang release you can, and then the SBM versions of all the Virgin years. Couple that w/ Electronic Orgy, The Brick (oops), and those two 5-disc box sets, there you have it. Include the Orb remix album (hah) and all the solos of Franke, Froese, etc, and you've got well into the 150s. Oh, doth my purse screech in pain from the fire of buying power :-)))) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html 'Don't work for my happiness, my brothers -- show me yours -- show me that it is possible -- show me your achievement -- and the knowledge will give me the courage for mine.' - Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:10 am Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > At 08:09 AM 3/4/1998 -0500, Lars wrote: > > >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > > > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) > >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) > >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces > >21 1/2 inches My heartiest congratulations, Lars. Raise him well (to be a TD fan, of course) :-))) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:02 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid First exposure: Age 8, 1983. 'Dr Destructo'. Never learned the name of the band, but that sound and that title stuck with me for years afterwards, as did the disturbed, abstract images it inspired me to paint at the museum workshop. First album: late '92--Phaedra. Next albums in '93--Rockoon and Tangram. Joined list around this time as well. Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:18 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-04 18:22:25 EST, you write: << Interesting that you have over 100 TD cds. I thought I had alot at 45 or so,,, Now I know I'm missing a few, soundtracks and such but how do you get 100 without repeating?? Thanks, Steve >> Yeah, I went to THE Website and counted them ALL, and still didn't come up with a hundred. Guess I must have missed some of those unlisted 'boots'. Just wondering myself....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:27 am Subject: Re: my favorite dreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-04 19:12:22 EST, you write: << you guys in the states regularly talk about hearing t dream on the radio.sadly there is nothing like that anymore in england >> The only TD I ever heard on the radio, was on a now defunct radio program called 'Space Pirate Radio' although I used to hear it all the time on some afternoon soap opera. OK, here's another question...Does anybody remember an interview of James Woods (The Actor) on an Entertainment Tonight? I'm not sure how long ago it was, but I remember what he said. Something like, 'Well, I don't just sit around listening to Tangerine Dream all day'. Did anyone but me see this? Again, just wondering....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:30 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-04 19:57:41 EST, you write: << KENT BORREFJAELL ESKILDSEN >> I just have to say something...What a name! Borrefjaell? Is that all one name? Kinda reminds me of Orenthal, but you probably haven't heard of him.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:49 am Subject: Number Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA OK, I counted again. All legitimate releases plus soundtracks and re-releases and compilations from the Website total 90. This number represents actual numbers of discs, assuming that V Box had 4 LP's=4 CD's, etc. Add on a few Froese and Franke solos, and it could easily top 100. Quite an investment for the collecter. I'm at about 65, and I own no boots....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11639 Re: Number Please DJS Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11652 Re: Number Please Plumer, Scott Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11653 Re: Number Please Tom Monaghan Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11668 Re: Number Please DAVENTURA Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 5:17 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' Hello My name is Greg Heil, and I'm 19 years of age. I first discovered Tangerine Dream when I was 17. That album was 'The Private Music of Tangerine Dream' Reading the credits Edgar and Jerome -->Frose<-- kinda scared me in a bad way (thinking they were *together* .. thinking this was Private Music, New Age, and California, anything was possible. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 5:36 am Subject: The Analogue Space Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gary Davis Hello Dreamers: The latest Artist Shop newsletter is out. You'll find it in its entirety at . There's one thing in it of special interest to this list which is a soon to be released import you'll find at : 119482 TANGERINE DREAM-THE ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS (2CD) Collection of early electronic rock during their 1969-1973 period with tracks taken from the original albums 'Zeit', 'Alpha Centauri', and 'Electronic Meditation'. Also contains a limited edition poster. Hope you'll stop by for a visit. Gary ************************************************************** Gary Davis The Artist Shop The Other Road http://www.artist-shop.com artshop@a... phone: 330-929-2056 fax:330-945-4923 SUPPORT THE INDEPENDENT ARTIST!!! ************************************************************** Check out the latest Artist Shop newsletter at http://www.artist-shop.com/news.htm Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11634 Re: The Analogue Space Years DAVENTURA Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 5:41 am Subject: Re: The Analogue Space Years ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-05 00:40:19 EST, you write: << Also contains a limited edition poster. >> Damn, now I gotta buy it just for the poster... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 12:24 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >I'm always interested in the 'profile' of TD fans. Do older members of this list >generally prefer the older TD (which they've grown up with), the younger members >generally likeing the newer stuff..or is it completely random? > >Thoughts would be welcome.. > >Colin At first, when I was in my teens, I was just attracted to the 'newer' material (at the time that meant Force Majeure thru Underwater Sunlight). After going thru (IMO) the somewhat disappointing Private years I started appreaciating the earlier works (as far back as Atem). Now it's pretty much up to my mood which album from which era I prefer to listen to. The most often selected still come from the early 80s (Force Majeure, Tangram, Pergamon) while I hardly ever touch Alpha Centauri and Zeit. Tom (Stuck on the wrong side of the pond) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 12:28 pm Subject: RE: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Ram=F3n?=' > >Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > > >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches Congratulations, Lars & family... But, Kieran Bentley Jones? Isn't better Edgarfroese Jones??? ;-) Greetings, José Ramón From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 5:44 pm Subject: Age poll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) My how time flies...the request for everyone to post their age / favourite album / introduction to TD / hair color / shoe size / is back already? I can't believe the last TWO MONTHS went by so fast :-) Well here we go again: Age 32, first intro to TD at age 14 in 1979, by no other album than: CYCLONE! They had played only the B-side 'Madrigal Meridian' on the radio. I went out and bought Cyclone the next day. Indeed, I was a little suprised that the A-side sounded a bit different, but not knowing any other TD, I accepted that 'this is what TD sound like' and began to enjoy both the vocal and the instrumental side of the album (and still do). From Cyclone I carefully worked my way backwards one album at a time, making sure not to skip any, my usual way of following a newly discovered artist. That way, I was able to enjoy the change of styles TD went through in a gradual, natural way, only the other way round from the order they were recorded in. So from 1979 to 1980 I purchased Encore, Sorcerer, Stratosfear, Ricochet, Rubycon and Phaedra in that order, and in the other direction Force Majeure and Tangram which had just come out. By then, at age 15, I reached the 'weird' Atem and stopped there, continuing with the Froese and Baumann solo releases instead. It took a while, but now I enjoy Atem, Zeit, Alpha Centauri and even Electronic Meditation. Hilmar Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11641 Re: Age poll John Majka Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11677 Re: Age poll Tom Gerardy Thu 3/5/1998 4 KB 11703 Re: Age poll matt knudson Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11860 Re: Age poll Dennis Nigbur Tue 3/10/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:58 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > Hi, > I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to > Tdream > most seem very young! > > Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 Err...18 in '90 (25 now, 26 on 23/04) when I was introduced to TD with Lilly on the Beach (still one of my faves!), and the collector series complation (which I disliked after about the second hearing!) I'm always interested in the 'profile' of TD fans. Do older members of this list generally prefer the older TD (which they've grown up with), the younger members generally likeing the newer stuff..or is it completely random? Thoughts would be welcome.. Colin Off to tell some first year undergraduates how to wire an ammeter! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 8:09 am Subject: Re: Number Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > OK, I counted again. All legitimate releases plus soundtracks and re-releases > and compilations from the Website total 90. This number represents actual > numbers of discs, assuming that V Box had 4 LP's=4 CD's, etc. Add on a few > Froese and Franke solos, and it could easily top 100. Quite an investment for > the collecter. I'm at about 65, and I own no boots....David In the name of Edgar...will someone please hook this guy up with some boots? ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 8:06 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > In a message dated 98-03-04 15:58:00 EST, you write: > > << Watching The Soldier to be > specific. >> > > Not a bad film either. I have the original theater poster. > > n.p. TD...OST from Wavelength...I gotta rent this movie again. They are all > over the map with one. Every tune is from something else I heard...David Hmm, technically I heard their music from the movie 'Sorcerer' in 1979 but didn't realize it was them. The haunting infamous 'over the bridge' theme spooked me quite a bit. I took notice of the Dream in 1984 when I saw a preview for Firestarter on HBO. I went out & bought the tape that night & it went from there. I found out a whole year later that they were actually a band...and not just film composers. I have to admit, I thought they were chicks, with a name like Tangerine Dream & all. TD did actually change my life quite a bit. Their music helped inspired quite a bit of projects in my life, including a few novels, a comic book series due out soon & of course my humble electronic music ventures (solo album due out this summer...finally!). Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:23 pm Subject: Re: Age poll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka what statistical fun! LOL. I'm 28 (born 1969) and first heard a friend's copy of Exit in about 1983 at the tender age of 14, but I didn't really like it. Then I think it was the next year I heard Rubycon and was hooked. John Majka flossbac@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:25 am Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen >Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... > >my first exposure to t dream was richochet i heard it on the saturday >afternoon rock show with alan(fluff)freeman.i couldnt believe what i >was hearing,sheer excellence, that was back in 76.but i think my >favorite album was to come in the form of cyclone,madrigal merridan in >particular. > the afternoon rock show ended after that and there has not >been anything to replace it.you guys in the states regularly talk >about hearing t dream on the radio.sadly there is nothing like that >anymore in england as far as i know, maybe someone knows better? He also played Stratosfear on the same show one or two years later... I made several tapes of his rock show during that time. Unfortunately for me and this list they were all stolen during my first car break in in 1979 (which also put me off convertibles for life). Both Alan Freeman and John Peel were acknowledged masters in playing TD stuff, and most people will know it was John Peel who brought TD to the great Bristish public's attention in the first place. (BTW he also introduced me to electric folk, the other love of my life). For those Brits with cable TV, some TD videos from Canyon Dreams have also been featured on the Landscape Channel... Steve. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11648 Stephen Yensen Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 12235 feldon@p... Mon 3/23/1998 3 KB 12462 Doug Daughtry Tue 3/31/1998 3 KB 12749 Marek Mastalerz Wed 4/8/1998 3 KB 12820 jinsuk Kim Fri 4/10/1998 2 KB 13042 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB 13047 Re: TangerineC Thu 4/16/1998 2 KB 13068 Re: Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 4/17/1998 3 KB 13059 Marek Mastalerz Thu 4/16/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:32 pm Subject: Re: Numbers Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 By my calculations (taken from my own web-page which is based on the official one), I see that there are 93 official TD items. These include albums, singles and compilations (counting sets such as Tangents as 1 item, not 5) but not boots. Obviously, not all items listed are available as CDs (e.g. the singles), but there must be around 80 CDs/sets available, so 100 would not be an impossible figure. I have around 70 TD CDs, but that counts box sets as 5 CDs, and includes a few boots. I still have a few stndard CDs to buy due to previous trades (Green Desert, Encore) and the only double I have is Phaedra. Anyone interested in buying/swapping the 3CD box-set of Phaedra, Rubycon and Ricochet with picture discs (non-SBM)? ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:54 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 hi, This brings up an interesting point....I never hear anyone mention the Ricochet tape (video) I saw it years ago on 'In Concert' anyone else see it or have a copy of it??? Steve Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11650 Re: curious Steve McCready Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:17 pm Subject: TD and our AGE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi guys, First started listening back in Thief era, courtesy of Mr Manns fine film. Got the soundtrack, and pretty much stayed with TD in the Film world til 1988. I too thought all they did was ST work . It wasn't until I got a job at a record store and Canyon Dreams was released that I realized they had a large catalog out there. I am 28 and am Wayyyyyy behind on their official releases. I have most of their new stuff, but need to get back into the old stuff. My pockets are now empty..... Chris Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11656 Re: TD and our AGE Colin Knowles Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:21 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Colin Knowles > Err...18 in '90 (25 now, 26 on 23/04) when I was introduced to TD with Lilly > on the Beach (still one of my faves!), and the collector series complation > (which I disliked after about the second hearing!) Ugh!! :-) > I'm always interested in the 'profile' of TD fans. Do older members of this list > generally prefer the older TD (which they've grown up with), the younger members > generally likeing the newer stuff..or is it completely random? Being only 20 (today :-) ), I can say that I love the old stuff. I think a lot of the new is pretty bad, starting with Lily. Goblin's Club is better, but still NOTHING compared to the searing synth lines and pounding sequences of yesteryear. Those were the days. Force Majeure, Rubycon, Ricochet, Phaedra, White Eagle, Exit, etc... The new stuff is too new-agey for me... > Off to tell some first year undergraduates how to wire an ammeter! Oh, that's fun stuff there! :-) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11708 Profiles from dreamaholics.... Rainer Rutka Fri 3/6/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 10:24 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC I'm 28. I started listening to TD when I was 15. It was all the old stuff that I loved. In a message dated 3/5/98 9:58:56 AM !!!First Boot!!!, tadream@c... writes: << I'm always interested in the 'profile' of TD fans. Do older members of this list generally prefer the older TD (which they've grown up with), the younger members generally likeing the newer stuff..or is it completely random? >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:57 am Subject: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Stephen Yensen >Really-From: SRiser3600 > >Hi, >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream.. most seem very young! > >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 Ditto on both counts. Congratulations, Lars and family, on your new arrival. Steve. NP: 220 Volt Live. Next: Melrose From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:21 pm Subject: Re: Iowa, Sojus, TOURNADO Drum Solo ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Dennis Nigbur > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > > > I think Sojus is the single worst thing on the DREAM MIXES 2-CD > > set. It's all-over-the-place in the same way that much of TYRANNY OF > > How people differ...I _love_ Sojus! It's so nice to hear > some of those string-y sounds sweeping in again, a nice > sequencer line, and tons and tons of effects...this has to > be my most-played Dream Mixes tune, before Virtually Fields! > > Dennis Have to agree there! Specially like the dophin-esque clicking sounds... Better than Virtually Fields? Hhmmm..Joint first, also with Rough Embrace! Who said it can only be F1 Grand Prixs were you have three sharing top spot! Colin Now where's my cup mat, err sorry, Oasis CD gone? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:25 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: sbm@p... (Steve McCready) On Thu, 5 Mar 1998 08:54:47 EST, Steve (not myself or Feldman) wrote: >This brings up an interesting point....I never hear anyone mention the >Ricochet tape >(video) I saw it years ago on 'In Concert' anyone else see it or have a copy >of it??? I've never mentioned it because I never knew it existed. If it does, and someone wants to make me a copy or point me where I can pick one up, I'd REALLY appreciate it. -Steve sbm@p... Sacramento, CA From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:23 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: sbm@p... (Steve McCready) I'm 27, was first exposed to TD at age 14, by the SysOp of a local BBS who threw regular parties. He had a 500+ album collection, which included TD, Jean Michel Jarre (who, at the time, I found more interesting) and Vangelis. I picked up a couple of their albums (Ricochet, Cyclone, Stratosfear), but didn't really get that into their music until a few years later. -Steve sbm@p... Sacramento, CA Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11660 Re: curious Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/5/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:45 pm Subject: RE: Number Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >OK, I counted again. All legitimate releases plus soundtracks and re-releases >and compilations from the Website total 90. This number represents actual >numbers of discs, assuming that V Box had 4 LP's=4 CD's, etc. Add on a few >Froese and Franke solos, and it could easily top 100. Quite an investment for >the collecter. I'm at about 65, and I own no boots....David Count again, my friend. According to my book, :-) there are 111 _titles_ released. Here's the breakdown: 25 Studio albums 9 Live albums 19 Compilations 25 Soundtracks 33 Singles (incl. vinyl) This does not count reissues of titles, even in a case like Tyger where it was reissued with additional material. It also does not count solo works. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 12:07 pm Subject: Re: Number Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >OK, I counted again. All legitimate releases plus soundtracks and re-releases >and compilations from the Website total 90. This number represents actual >numbers of discs, assuming that V Box had 4 LP's=4 CD's, etc. Add on a few >Froese and Franke solos, and it could easily top 100. Quite an investment for >the collecter. I'm at about 65, and I own no boots....David I only have 58 TD CDs. Maybe I'm just not trying hard enough. :( Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:07 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > > > Being only 20 (today :-) ), I can say that I love the old stuff. I think a > Happy B'Day!!!! I'm off to the pub with some mates (friends not (unfortuantely) the condoms :-)) so I'll drink a few on you! > lot of the new is pretty bad, starting with Lily. Goblin's Club is better, > but still NOTHING compared to the searing synth lines and pounding sequences > of yesteryear. Those were the days. Force Majeure, Rubycon, Ricochet, > Phaedra, White Eagle, Exit, etc... > Ok, agree maybe that White Eagle and Exit are good but Rubycon? Phaedre?? Aaarrrgghhhh!! Think I'll have to disagree with you (and most the people on this list!) there! n.p. Lunear Chateau-by, you guessed it! Lunear Chateau! It must be wonderful to have such a vivid imagination! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11667 Re: curious Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/5/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:03 pm Subject: Curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 My first exposure to TD was the Thief soundtrack, which I liked, but when I went out and bought Tangram and White Eagle, I was hooked. And yes, despite what I read on this list, White Eagle is one of my all time faves, maybe for sentimental reasons. Best concert ever was the 1986 tour in Albuquerque of Underwater Sunlight Material before it was released. What pisses me off, though, is that TD released LIVEMILES with the moniker 'The ALbuqerque Concert' but the music IS NOT from that show. Even the introduction in Spanish is bogus, I was there and it never happened. I talked to Haslinger once about it and he confirmed that 'for legal reasons' the music isn't from that show. Too bad, Haslinger and Froese dualed on electric guitar and it was about the most intense life performace I've ever seen. Took my Dad! He was the oldest guy in the audience...he loved it! He ran out and bought Legend the next day! Saw the 220 Volts show, it was really good but no comparison to 86. All, of course, in my opinion. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11666 Re: Curious feldon@p... Thu 3/5/1998 4 KB 11682 Re: Curious Lawry Simm Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11835 Re: Curious Steve Whiteley Mon 3/9/1998 5 KB 11857 Re: Curious Colin Knowles Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 15135 Curious Greg Tue 6/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 3:58 pm Subject: Re: TD and our AGE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > releases. I have most of their new stuff, but need to get back into the old stuff. My pockets are now empty..... > Chris Don't yer just hate it when that happens? :-( Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 3:28 pm Subject: First Heard Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mitchell Dvoskin I first heard Tangerine Dream back in the late 70's. I was in college at the time, and working part time as a projectionist at a local theatre that played Sorcerer. After about a week of listening to the score, I was hooked. /Mitchell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11658 Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream feldon@p... Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11662 Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream Peter J. Apruzzese Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11664 Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11748 Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream PENFOLD Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:25 pm Subject: Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... My first TD was when I was 16. I watched the movie Miracle Mile and was blown away by the soundtrack. I had no idea where to get the soundtrack, or just how many soundtracks TD had done. When I was 18, I purchased Turn of the Tides and Rockoon. I loved them and listened to them each about 100 times. Then I had the unfortunate experience of hearing Electronic Meditation. =) My next purchase was Logos, and it didn't take long for me to realize that their 1974-87 stuff is so compositionally superior to their 88-present stuff (except Dream Mixes, 220 Volt, and Oasis), that I don't even listen to it anymore. =) My favorite albums are Logos, Phaedra, Poland, Force Majeure, Rubycon, Tangram, White Eagle, Livemiles, and Dream Mixes. Boots I've heard/own: Logotypes, Live! Improvised, 1.30.80 Pergamon encore (13:42), a 1986 concert, Ratikon, Electronic Orgy. Morgan, 22 feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 1:45 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek First TD listen: 1976 or 1977 (didn't realize at the time it would be such an important event to remember) First album: Either Phaedra or Ricochet and Baumann's Romance '76 Place: Poland on vacation at age 12 or 13 Current age: 33 BTW, congratulations Lars and family! I'll give you a ring soon ;-) > Really-From: 'K.E' > I have just finished a translation to english of my book called; > > 30 YEARS OF DREAMING > TANGERINE DREAM 1967-1997 > A GUIDED TOUR BY > KENT BORREFJAELL ESKILDSEN > 1997 > > if anyone`s interested in reading the TD story, this might be a good > place to start. I got mine in a few weeks ago and I highly recommend it! It is different from 'Voices in the Dunes' since it is not geared for the collector (I think), but gives nice stories behind all of their releases. It is very current too. And about those TD CD releases. If you include solo releases and the various compilations and SBMs, you may find you're pushing way over 200! Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 3:37 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 I've just gone through the big three-oh barrier a couple of months back, but first started listening to TD in 1981/82. First album was Phaedra. My parents had just become divorced and I (incorrectly) blamed my mother for this. I spotted a TD section in a record shop one day and bought Phaedra for three reasons : 1) cool cover, 2) few tracks with great names, 3) I remembered my father having a couple of TD albums and my mother hated them. I suppose I'm sad and cruel to buy them just to spite my mother, but after more than 15 years, I'm glad something got me into the TD scene. BTW, before that point, I had never been exposed to real e-music. I was a big Ultravox/Visage/Numan fan at the time, and to me TD seemed likely to be just an extension of that type of music. How wrong can you be? ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 2:36 pm Subject: Td on the radio (RE: my favorite dreams) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > been anything to replace it.you guys in the states regularly talk > about hearing t dream on the radio.sadly there is nothing like that > We do? I haven't heard them on commercial radio in many years. > College radio is the only place I've heard TD on the radio in the last > 10 years at least. Does such an animal exist in the UK or elsewhere? > Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 5:25 pm Subject: Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Peter J. Apruzzese' tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Mitchell Dvoskin > > I first heard Tangerine Dream back in the late 70's. I was in college > at the time, and working part time as a projectionist at a local theatre > that played Sorcerer. After about a week of listening to the score, I > was hooked. > > /Mitchell Hi Mitch! For me it was seeing Thief in the theater and buying the album a coupleof weeks later. Pete From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 4:39 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > Really-From: Colin Knowles > > Being only 20 (today :-) ), I can say that I love the old stuff. I think a > > > > Happy B'Day!!!! > > I'm off to the pub with some mates (friends not (unfortuantely) the condoms :-)) > so I'll drink a few on you! *grin* :-) Thanks! I'll be doing my partying tomorrow night, even though I'm technically underage ;-) > Ok, agree maybe that White Eagle and Exit are good but Rubycon? Phaedre?? > Aaarrrgghhhh!! Oh, my, how terrible. To be on a TD list and not like their best! :-)) > Think I'll have to disagree with you (and most the people on this list!) there! This is true! And how! :-) But the least we can ask for is that you're a fan at all, I guess :-) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html 'Don't work for my happiness, my brothers -- show me yours -- show me that it is possible -- show me your achievement -- and the knowledge will give me the courage for mine.' - Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 6:09 pm Subject: Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' I first noticed the Tangs' music whilst viewing Da Keep on HBO. Was it fate that I somehow met Mr. Dano in high school in 1985, who happened to actually possess TD albums? He cut me a tape, and my first simultaneous purchases at the age of 15 in '85 were Le Parc & Firestarter. It's been a road long traveled ever since... E-Man np: Steve Hackett & various artists, 'Watcher of the Skies: Genesis Revisited' (Yo, Dano...Mr. Wetton sings on some of these tunes! You may need this...lots of lush keyboard action, too...) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 6:23 pm Subject: Ricochet tape ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >This brings up an interesting point....I never hear anyone mention the >Ricochet tape >(video) I saw it years ago on 'In Concert' anyone else see it or have a copy >of it??? It has been discussed before. Maybe a long time ago. Yes, this video-tape exists. I have it. Great to see all those analogue gear. But the music is not in sync with the video (not a problem with my video btw), but what the hell. Quality could be better, but is OK. I think this copy wasn't from 'In Concert' (don't know what that is), it's from '76 when it was first broadcast from the BBC. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 6:38 pm Subject: Re: Curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 11:03 AM 3/5/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: AslanFan1 > >My first exposure to TD was the Thief soundtrack, which I liked, but when I >went out and bought Tangram and White Eagle, I was hooked. And yes, despite >what I read on this list, White Eagle is one of my all time faves, maybe for >sentimental reasons. Best concert ever was the 1986 tour in Albuquerque of >Underwater Sunlight Material before it was released. What pisses me off, >though, is that TD released LIVEMILES with the moniker 'The ALbuqerque >Concert' but the music IS NOT from that show. Even the introduction in Spanish >is bogus, I was there and it never happened. I talked to Haslinger once about >it and he confirmed that 'for legal reasons' the music isn't from that show. >Too bad, Haslinger and Froese dualed on electric guitar and it was about the >most intense life performace I've ever seen. Took my Dad! He was the oldest >guy in the audience...he loved it! He ran out and bought Legend the next day! >Saw the 220 Volts show, it was really good but no comparison to 86. All, of >course, in my opinion. Why hasn't a recording of the Albuqerque show appeared on tape or CD-R? or has it and I'm simply not looking hard enough =) I like Livemiles and I've heard an 86 concert... Also, anyone wanna comment on how the 2CD Pergamon show is coming? =) Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 6:43 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: Colin Knowles > > >> Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' >> >> >> Being only 20 (today :-) ), I can say that I love the old stuff. I think a >> > >Happy B'Day!!!! > >I'm off to the pub with some mates (friends not (unfortuantely) the condoms :-)) >so I'll drink a few on you! > I'm going to the pub tomorrow. Anyone have a birthday tomorrow. I can blame you when my wife gives me hard time on Saturday morning! 8-) Or maybe I'll just say I was wetting Kieran Bentley Jones' head! Congrats and all that Lars and Robyn. >Ok, agree maybe that White Eagle and Exit are good but Rubycon? Phaedre?? >Aaarrrgghhhh!! > >Think I'll have to disagree with you (and most the people on this list!) >there! I am not offended, and I'm not going to flame you (or anyone else). I am genuinely flabbergasted that a TD fan cannot like Phaedra and Rubycon. We can all debate the band's golden period, or our individual favourite periods, but I was not aware that there were any fans (even those who prefer the newer stuff) who did not like Phaedra and Rubycon. Have you gone back further than that? I'd love to know what you make of Alpha Centauri, Electronic Meditation and Zeit (8-)!) if you don't like classics like Phaedra and Rubycon. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 7:40 pm Subject: Re: Number Please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-05 09:41:36 EST, you write: << 33 Singles (incl. vinyl) My count did not include singles, thank you very much...David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 7:45 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-05 10:53:38 EST, you write: << I was a big Ultravox/Visage/Numan fan at the time >> Ultravox? Man, I thought I was the only one. Just pulled out Quartet. Wow, what a flashback. Thanks....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 8:05 pm Subject: Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid Hey Sean, why don't you send some of these to the TD web site and ask if any of them are at all accurate ;) Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 8:13 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 for me its a bit random love phadra rubycon ricochet also like lily melrose rockoon some of the soundtracks I dont care for dead solid perfect )- : tournado i was very disapointed in im 45 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: New swap list available ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) Hello Tadreamers, my new swap list is available now. If you're interested, please mail me privately: ---> peter.stoeferle@t... The list (60 KB, DOS/ASCII-Textfile, easy to handle on all systems) contains a lot of records and rarities from Electronic and Germanrock artists, mostly TD. Please allow one or maybe a few days for handling; I am away from home very often these days. Greetings, Peter From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:37 pm Subject: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' hi Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but being live music different im asking Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? Is he worth to be seen live? Shall I tape him ? regards ---Francisco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11679 Re: KITARO SRiser3600 Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11684 Re: KITARO Francisco Salgado C. Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11688 Re: KITARO Tom Monaghan Thu 3/5/1998 3 KB 11695 Re: KITARO John M. Poer Fri 3/6/1998 4 KB 11699 Re: KITARO Vic Rek Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11709 Re: KITARO Francisco Salgado C. Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11711 Re: KITARO Plumer, Scott Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11712 Re: KITARO TWeibre361 Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11747 KITARO spidey Sat 3/7/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:20 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' I think I told this before. Here it is again: Francisco, age 42 and growing... I got hooked before actually hearing it. The name did it. the Planetarium of the city where I was living at that time ( Caracas) gave a concert of electronic music, Tangerine Dream included ( from LP), star simulations and laser effects. A couldn't go by some forgotten reason but I HAD TO LISTEN TO THAT MUSIC. ( I loved all universe related topics such as universe birth and formation, stars, galaxies etc... and Science fiction ) Fist exposure: Encore and Stratosfear ( in LP format) from a Chinese friend back in 1977. What really hooked me: Force Majeure. Phaedra was too untasty for me and I didn't like Rubycon either. ( now I love both, specially Rubycon) Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 7:54 pm Subject: Brian Frick, an off subject ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves Hi Brian, Just wanted to say I liked your quoting Howard Roark from The Fountainhead. I have the movie on laserdisc and think it is a riot. The acting is so stilted, the dialog silly at times, but it is a classic in the anti-communist films that were made in the period. Ayn Rand in no film scripter. 'The Individual versus the Collective', Hah! Still keeps me laughing. CHEERS...Matt From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 7:59 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 > I'm going to the pub tomorrow. Anyone have a birthday tomorrow. I can blame you > when my wife gives me hard time on Saturday morning! 8-) Or maybe I'll just > say I was wetting Kieran Bentley Jones' head! Congrats and all that Lars and > Robyn. Um, I have a friend whose b'day is tomorrow... :-) > Have you gone back further than that? I'd love to know what you make of Alpha > Centauri, Electronic Meditation and Zeit (8-)!) if you don't like classics like > Phaedra and Rubycon. I think even those are classics. I esp. love the sound of the fork in the toaster on Zeit! Ever try listening to the pre-Phaedra albums while having too much to drink? What a ride :-) I highly recommend it. -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/index.html Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub/index.html From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:33 pm Subject: Re: Age poll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy >Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) > >My how time flies...the request for everyone to post their age / >favourite album / introduction to TD / hair color / shoe size / is >back already? I can't believe the last TWO MONTHS went by so fast :-) > >Well here we go again[...] Yes, one of the old timers should have just quickly posted 'See the archives.' perhaps this should become an FAQ question. Seems like a strange preocupation to me... Speaking of the archives, I've been trying to look them over and for other new folks there are some gold nuggets to be mined there. My best so far is the midi file for poland attached to one - this was great, are there more lurking somewhere? Anyway, since I am new to the list, I probably _should_ give a small intro. I'm 47 years old and live in Denver, Colorado, USA. My first exposure to Tangerine Dream was early 70s when Zeit was the new album. Unlike many on the list, I like all periods of their work, they have yet to produce an album I really dislike. I thought once that Cyclone was that album, had a bad reaction at first and didn't listen to it for years but then I listened again and my reaction was different, this wasn't so bad. Favorite album so far is Underwater Sunlight, partly because I discovered how well it goes with David Brin's SF novel Startide Rising - could be a sound track! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:01 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes I'm 39 years old... 40 in 3 weeks time :-( First TD exposure: 1983 (excerpts of Logos and Hyperborea on a local radio) First TD album bought: Force Majeure (on vinyl) Favorites: the above and Tangram Number of TD CDs at present: 63. Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 10:10 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 franciso, where is coru'na From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 10:17 pm Subject: RE: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_Ram=F3n?=' I'm 20 years old. I discovered TD in 1992, listening a special program radio on TD (White Eagle, Melrose, Desert Train, Logos, ...). Best whises, José Ramón From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:49 pm Subject: Macula Transfer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' I keep reading about the 2 versions of MT due for release sometime this month... is it any good? Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11758 Re: Macula Transfer Lawry Simm Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 12518 Macula Transfer Rainer Rutka Wed 4/1/1998 3 KB 13962 Macula Transfer RBrown4856 Wed 5/27/1998 2 KB 13963 Re: Macula Transfer Jens Peschke Wed 5/27/1998 3 KB 13968 Re: Macula Transfer TWeibre361 Wed 5/27/1998 3 KB 14649 Re: Macula Transfer feldon@p... Mon 6/15/1998 2 KB 19893 Macula Transfer John Marchington Sat 12/18/1999 2 KB 19896 Re: Macula Transfer Vic Rek Sat 12/18/1999 1 KB 24988 Macula Transfer Derk Sun 11/12/2000 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:37 pm Subject: RE: Curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Ok.. I'll bite. I first heard TD when a friend who knew I liked Jean-michel Jarre passed some tapes to me. The tapes were Cyclone, Force Majeure, Tangram and White Eagle. The first one I listened to was Force Majeure and I was hooked. That must have been around 1984, when I was 14 years old. :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 9:45 pm Subject: RE: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches Welcome, Kieran, and congratulations to Lars, and Mrs Lars. :-) Hope you're going to let him make up his own mind about his favourite TD era! Good look for your many years of parenthood ahead, but whatever you do, in 20 years time, do _not_ let him have a Sonic the Hedgehog haircut like Jerome's. Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11689 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! AOutland Thu 3/5/1998 2 KB 11742 Re: please welcome td's newest fan! Miguel Farah F. Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:45 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' tadream mailing list escribió: > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > franciso, > where is coru'na It's a town at the coast on the north west corner os Spain From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:15 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'K.E' tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DAVENTURA > << KENT BORREFJAELL ESKILDSEN >> > > I just have to say something...What a name! Borrefjaell? Is that all one name? Well, I can`t help it - I`m sure it must look strange to you english speaking people. Eh...and you don`t want to know the danish name of my recording studio... I sometime use Borrefjaell because I know for sure that - apart from my family - nobody else in Scandinavia carries that name. It`s a Swedish name, I live in Denmark, I can understand Danish (!), Swedish, Norwegian, German, English - even American if I have to ;-) - and a little bit of French. Life must be easy for you living in USA or England; Just one language and everything is in english - you even got English names ;-) Kindly, Kent Niels (Oh no - not one more name) Borrefjael Eskildsen KnBE (Knight of the British Empire ?) oh, please stop now...eh...lets just call you...eh...Kent... BTW; Just counted my collection; Almost all of the old vinyl recordings (No, don`t ask - The Keep`s not included...) + 64 CDs not counting solowork, CDs and so on. np; Nothing! I´m just going to watch a videotape of Vangelis playing at the Eureka festival in Holland a few years ago... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 3:59 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Age: 29 First TD LP: White Eagle in 1982 Reason For Purchase: picked up LP at record shop + suddenly noticed having seen band name before in a music article. Bought out of curiosity. Only played once then brother dropped disc onto floor and got deep scratches at once. No longer listened to TD again until Thief in 1984. Totally moved by Beach Scene + Beach Theme. Big interest developed then Dream Sequence as start of chasing back catalogue and later collecting... Most Strange TD Listening Experience: Listened To Tangram and hated it so much. 3 months later listened to it again and became TOTALLY LOVED IT! Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:21 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >Have you gone back further than that? I'd love to know what you make of Alpha >Centauri, Electronic Meditation and Zeit (8-)!) if you don't like classics like >Phaedra and Rubycon. I consider myself a big fan of their music but anything before Atem is pretty much unlistenable. IMO. I know that this was during the period in their career where they were trying to find their sound (and build stability within the band itself). However, you can't change personal tastes. I just am not that big on anything done before Atem. I tried sitting thru all of Zeit recently (an annual thing, really) but I fell asleep during disc two. I'm not saying it's bad. No. It's quite innovative. It's just not my thing. On the other hand albums like Phaedra, Rubicon, Tangram, White Eagle and Hyperborea are stuff that I crave. I longed for the return to that sound but after the departures of Schmoelling and Franke I knew that it would never be. I will just have to settle on Ambient Monkeys as the closest we're ever going to get. Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:26 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) I would. I wish I could go. The closest we get to 'cool' music in Virginia is Chip 'Mannheim Steamroller' Davis. :/ Tom >hi > >Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) >I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but >being live music different im asking > >Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? > >Is he worth to be seen live? >Shall I tape him ? > >regards > >---Francisco > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 11:46 pm Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-04 08:12:21 EST, you write: << Please welcome TD's newest fan: Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >> Congratulations to you and your wife. Now we know why things have been so hectic for you. Does he have a favorite TD song yet? 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 12:00 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' Age: 31 Hometown: Ronnenberg, Lower Saxony 1st TD exposure: 1979, Force Majeure Favourites: Ricochet, Encore, Tangram Number of TD CDs at present: 89 different, w/o solo, 152 w solo Jens (that´s a Scandinavian name, btw) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 7:17 am Subject: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Philip Meyer I have to confess to everyone, that although I know most tunes from the main-line Tangerine Dream album releases, I still struggle to remember the track names! When I am listening to compilation tapes in the car, or at work on a portable CD player, I think 'hey, this is a great track', but can't immediately identify what album it was copied from. Do other people have this problem? I find it hard to associate names with tracks.I've been listening to Tangerine Dream music for about 7 years now. Has anyone created a track listing for the three PersistanceOf Vision CDRs yet? It will take me ages to identify all of the titles :-) Phil --Phil Meyer-------------------------- phil@h... amarok@c... http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk --------God loves his children, yeah-- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11694 Re: Track Titles Sean Montgomery Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11696 Re: Track Titles Rich Maggio Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11698 Re: Track Titles Vic Rek Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11792 Re: Track Titles Philip Meyer Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11713 Re: Track Titles Plumer, Scott Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11731 Re: Track Titles feldon@p... Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11721 Re: Track Titles DAVENTURA Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11820 Re: Track Titles Colin Knowles Mon 3/9/1998 4 KB 11826 Re: Track Titles Plumer, Scott Mon 3/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 6:09 pm Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #211 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: monrad engineering ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >In a message dated 98-03-04 19:12:22 EST, you write: > ><< you guys in the states regularly talk > about hearing t dream on the radio.sadly there is nothing like that > anymore in england >> > ><called 'Space Pirate Radio' although I used to hear it all the time on some afternoon soap opera.>> >>TD can be heard almost without exception on one of the weekly pro golf telecasts-generally tracks from LOB or Rockoon. This has been SOP for years. Millions of people of have heard TD but don't know it. CKM Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11697 Re: tadream-digest V16 #211 AOutland Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11743 Re: tadream-digest V16 #211 Miguel Farah F. Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:30 am Subject: Re: my favorite dreams ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-04 19:12:22 EST, you write:Nick: << my first exposure to t dream was richochet i heard it on the saturday afternoon rock show with alan(fluff)freeman.i couldnt believe what i was hearing,sheer excellence, that was back in 76. >> Ricochet was my first experience also. I guess we in the States are a little slow receiving music inspiration from Europe because I didn't hear this album until 1980 when a late night DJ friend handed it to me, knowing I liked Grand Funk Railroad and their long, musical passages. I went into a trance and some would say I'm still there. As for my age? Uh uh, not important. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:23 am Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > I have to confess to everyone, that although I know most tunes from the > main-line Tangerine Dream album releases, I still struggle to remember the > track names! > > Do other people have this problem? I've always found it fairly easy...but then I have a good memory for all kinds of musical song titles. With TD though, something else kicks in. The title provides a key to unlocking the piece of music's meaning. Which is one reason I've always liked TD...their titles are often wonderfully evocative, and give the music all kinds of potential interpretations which come to mind every time I hear it. Furthermore, an awful title can ruin the song for me! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 5, 1998 10:46 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 09:37 PM 3/5/1998 +0000, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > >hi > >Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) >I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but >being live music different im asking > >Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? > >Is he worth to be seen live? >Shall I tape him ? > >regards > >---Francisco Francisco, The last time I saw Kitaro (Universal Amphitheatre in Hollywood) about 4 years ago, he was a trip. I liked his live stuff about 500% better than his recorded. The show had a lot of 'life'...and the sound package was outstanding. I'd go again....doubt if a recording would capture it any better than the studio stuff. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:48 am Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rich Maggio Yes, I do as well :-). I think the problem is that it is instrumental music - you can't identify the song with any words. I listen to some instrumental jazz and I have the same problem there. The only track names that I can remember are those that I listen to very often and like very much. Silver Scale comes to mind. But then, with some of the earlier tracks, it's really easy - they have the same title as the CD broken up into parts one and two! :-). So, I can remember Rubycon - no problem. Rich Maggio > > I have to confess to everyone, that although I know most tunes from the > main-line Tangerine Dream album releases, I still struggle to remember the track > names! > > When I am listening to compilation tapes in the car, or at work on a portable CD > player, I think 'hey, this is a great track', but can't immediately identify > what album it was copied from. > > Do other people have this problem? I find it hard to associate names with > tracks.I've been listening to Tangerine Dream music for about 7 years now. > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 2:26 am Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #211 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-05 19:56:06 EST, you write: << you guys in the states regularly talk > about hearing t dream on the radio. >> I met a lady thru the TD web site who is a DJ that regularly plays TD in the DC/MD area. If anyone likes I could try to contact her to find out what her station is called and what times she plays. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 3:06 am Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Philip Meyer >Has anyone created a track listing for the three PersistanceOf Vision CDRs yet? >It will take me ages to identify all of the titles :-) > >Phil I have it - contact me off list :-) Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11792 Re: Track Titles Philip Meyer Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 3:06 am Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' >hi > >Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) >I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but >being live music different im asking > >Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? > >Is he worth to be seen live? >Shall I tape him ? Francisco! His CDs may not be my 'cup of tea', but live he is GREAT. I saw him in Atlanta a few years back and he blew me away! REALLY! He had eleven (11) musicians on stage and they all jammed! By all means GO! Also, bring your wife or a nice friend too :-) Tell your friends.... Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 5:08 am Subject: Re: curious (Jens) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > Age: 31 > Hometown: Ronnenberg, Lower Saxony > 1st TD exposure: 1979, Force Majeure > Favourites: Ricochet, Encore, Tangram > Number of TD CDs at present: 89 different, w/o solo, 152 w solo > > Jens (that´s a Scandinavian name, btw) That means it's pronounced 'yensa' right? Or is it just 'yens'? We must know (like David LoPan must know what province mau yin's father is from). Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11704 Re: curious (Jens) Jens Kilian Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 4:57 am Subject: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' > > > Age: 29 > > First TD LP: White Eagle in 1982 > > Reason For Purchase: picked up LP at record shop + suddenly noticed having > seen band name before in a music article. Bought out of curiosity. Only > played once then brother dropped disc onto floor and got deep scratches at > once. > Jeffrey I bought my brand new 'White Eagle' SBM CD and about a week later, some books landed atop the CD.. there goes from 6:00 to 11:00 on 'Mohave Plan'! :o(((((((( Then a lit match landed on 'Tangram' (label side) and caused a bump to form ( a little one) and off goes about two of the last minutes minutes on 'Tangram Set 2' :((( (tho some really good CD players can handle it) I like tapes :) Greg H... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11719 Re: CD TD Disasters DAVENTURA Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11732 Re: CD TD Disasters feldon@p... Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11723 Re: CD TD Disasters Francisco Salgado C. Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11740 Re: CD TD Disasters Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11741 Re: CD TD Disasters DAVENTURA Sat 3/7/1998 2 KB 11746 Re: CD TD Disasters Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 5:38 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tdune In a message dated 98-03-05 13:47:13 EST, you write: << all debate the band's golden period, or our individual favourite periods, but I was not aware that there were any fans (even those who prefer the newer stuff) who did not like Phaedra and Rubycon. >> Well I am one of 'those' fans (well not entirely, only half way), Movement of a visionary was the first TD I ever listen to in 1977 at the tender age of 16 (you figure out how old I am), loved it and I went out and bought Phaedra and to this day it remains one of my favorite TD albums, soon after I bought Rubycon, don't ask me why but I find Rubycon boring (in comparison to Phaedra) and believe me, after people on the list have raved about this album I have gone back and listen to it many more times, still the same result! All of this is of course IMO, then again my TD taste runs somewhat counter to the rest of the list. Bye Marcelo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11705 Re: curious Colin Knowles Fri 3/6/1998 4 KB 11706 Re: curious =?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWW Fri 3/6/1998 6 KB 11715 Re: curious Marcel Engels Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11717 Re: curious Marcel Engels Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11744 Re: curious Miguel Farah F. Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11753 Re: curious Robin.A.Seed Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11772 Re: curious Hammer1612 Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 6:49 am Subject: Re: Age poll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: rmknudson@j... (matt knudson) Ok, here is my entry into this particular subject. I am 35 years old and I first heard TD back in 1977 at the age of 14. It was a track from Sorcerer used as part of a 'LASERIUM' concert held in my home town of Salt Lake City, Utah. My first TD music purchased was TANGRAM on a GNP Sci-Fi compilation album of various artists called 'Music From the 21st Century', it was great! Now is it the present and about 105+ TD cd's later, I still love them! My wife thinks I am nuts. _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 9:06 am Subject: Re: curious (Jens) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jens Kilian > Really-From: DJS > > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > Jens (that´s a Scandinavian name, btw) > > That means it's pronounced 'yensa' right? Or is it just 'yens'? We must > know (like David LoPan must know what province mau yin's father is > from). It is just 'yens'. It's a Frisian (Danish, Norwegian,...) diminutive of 'Johannes', along the lines of 'Hans', 'John', 'Jussi',... Bye, (another) Jens (we're going to take over the world yet ) ObTD: Is Electronic Orgy still available? -- mailto:jjk@a... phone:+49-7031-14-7698 (HP TELNET 778-7698) http://www.bawue.de/~jjk/ fax:+49-7031-14-7351 PGP: 06 04 1C 35 7B DC 1F 26 As the air to a bird, or the sea to a fish, 0x555DA8B5 BB A2 F0 66 77 75 E1 08 so is contempt to the contemptible. [Blake] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:45 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Tdune > > was not aware that there were any fans (even those who prefer the newer > stuff) > who did not like Phaedra and Rubycon. > > Well I am one of 'those' fans (well not entirely, only half way), Movement of > Well thats two then :-) > Rubycon, don't ask me why but I find Rubycon boring (in comparison to Phaedra) > Thats pretty much my opinion too. I must admit that I don't actually own either Phaedraor Rubycon as albums. I've only heard them, and some other early stuff, as they appear on Tangents and err, Dream Roots. Rubycon is just too darn...eeerrr...I think tedious is the word I'm looking for. Can't speak for Phaedre since I can't remember what it sounds like! I recognise that at the time it was revolutionary, innovative and the rest but in terms of content I always find it somewhat lacking. Maybe it's too unstructured for me, I don't know. I'll listen to phaedre (what bits I've got) tonight whilst I'm waiting for the F1 qualifying and let you know.. > and believe me, after people on the list have raved about this album I have > gone back and listen to it many more times, still the same result! > Yep! No matter how many times you go back to it, it still remains the same boring albumas before! > All of this is of course IMO, then again my TD taste runs somewhat counter to > the rest of the list. > > Bye Marcelo I guess we're just plain radical! :-)) BTW just come to the conclusion Iowa is too repetitive, whilst Sojus is seriously cool! Colin n.p. Cyclone-Love the bass line on Cold Bent Sidewalk! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 11:40 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' Hello! I think I posted this before, but I like (not quite the same) story-telling : I'm 32 now and I discovered TD many times : 'Rubycon' was TV generic of 'L'avenir du futur' [the future has become?] (which was a TV series in France that showed science fiction movies with debates) about 1975-1980 (french people on the list, tell me if I'm wrong, or very wrong?). I was not aware of it at that time (to the matter TD did the music). My sister sent 'Phaedra' & 'Rubycon' on DVD (just kidding, it was 2 tapes) for my bithday in ... 1976? 1977? People at the music store told her it was a must. I prefered Jarre's oxygene at this time (but she wanted to let me know more of e-music then ans she was very right). And for this reason, I hadn't yet the disease that most people seem to have on this list : buying any TD album you can find! At the radio (which I regulary recorded on tapes) between 1980 and 1983, they often played 'Burning bar' (Thief) 'Tangram part I (from start to middle of the track, where it seems water is streaming...)' and 'Cloudburst flight' (Force majeure).and also 'Ricochet, part I', 'White Eagle'... and excerpts from 'Live improvised' (second track) It was music non-stop (the played KW too) so I didn't know the titles' name nor even the name of the group ; neither did I know the fact that the same group did all these tracks... Alright, I was kidding again somewhere in the previous paragraph. Now, you will know how I got the disease that most people seem to have on this list : buying any TD album you can find! There was another radio that broadcasted a special e-music program. LOGOS was the revelation. I started collecting TD items then. I recognized then upper mentionned titles (on the alternative radio). I also began an Oldfield's fan then (and would stop nowadays, cause TB III does not seem to suit me thanks to the reviews I could read here and there, MO taking the techno road...) I am still a Jarre's fan (I recognized 'Magnetic Fields' only by the sound. I knew that it was his new album then and ran to the store to buy it...) I have always been a Vangelis' fan but this another story and yet with the same stages than for TD (radio, sister, tapes, antarctica and so on). I have (about) 80 TD items (non redundant) and 40 TD-friends items (EF solo, CF solo, etc. you know what I mean). these numbers can't stop increasing for two reasons: - TD is still alive (aren't them, Johannes?) - this give me a reason to stay alive - kidding again! my baby is another one {good reason} ; BTW : best wishes, 'Lars and family' ! I can't say if my little boy (9 months old) will be a TD fan but I can say he loves music, dances upon it - and even falls asleep with some. - One of my friends showed me TD bootlegs (I started looking for TD bootlegs, as soon as I realized bootlegs exist! - I found Pink Floyd bootlegs, Kraftwerk bootlegs, Marillion bootlegs, but never TD bootlegs). Having internet connection and TD fan list subscription is also a good mean to follow the story of TD bootlegs with sharp information, I must say. Luckily, a friend of mine showed me some (and permitted me to make copies), so that I have my own TD bootlegs of bootlegs. Cheers to every one, hope this mail didn't bore any. Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 12:53 pm Subject: Re: SEX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 ok settle down now!!!!! as dream fans we seem to be all male!!!!! any female dream fans out there???? Steve Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11720 Re: SEX DAVENTURA Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11729 Re: SEX SRiser3600 Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11735 Re: SEX DAVENTURA Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB 11843 Re: SEX AOutland Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:36 pm Subject: Profiles from dreamaholics.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka >I'm always interested in the 'profile' of TD fans. Do older members of this list >generally prefer the older TD (which they've grown up with), the younger members >generally likeing the newer stuff..or is it completely random? HI ! Well, my first expirience in TD was Stratosfear. It was the first LP I bought from TD. It was 'love on the first sight'. I discoverd TD while I was hearing Bayern1-a german FM-Radio station. The DJ was Ingeborg Schober who wrote a very good book about the german rock-scene in the 70ies. She was playing 10 minutes form Encore (Monolight). But I couldn'd find Encore in my record-store so I bought Stratosfear instead ! From this time on I took EVERYTHING from TD. To my surprise, I like the newer stuff, too. The 90ies stuff is good while working or driving and the older records are very good for dreaming and relaxing. ('Go to bed with a TD-record and you sleep very well after !'). My fav. albums are: 1. Force Majeure (My all-time favorite) 2. Le Parc 3. Tangram 4. Goblins Club (Not a joke ! I love it ! Hear it LOUD !) 5. 20th Century Serenades (a boot) 6. Encore 7. Melrose (fantastic !) 8. 220 Volt Live 9. Underwater Sunlight 10. The Dream-Roots Collection - CD 5 (unreleased) ... and the rest of the approx. 50 records ! I'm a dremaholic ! (Trading lists welcome ! A have the Pioneer CD-Recorder and can make my own CDRs from tapes etc....) ((sorry for my bad english)) Rainer Rutka --------------------------------------------------------------------- K+R Informationssysteme Konstanz E-Mail : rainer@k... Klimas und Rutka GbR Griesseggstrasse 27 D Telefon : +49 (0)7531 29842 D-78462 Konstanz Fax : +49 (0)7531 29879 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 12:32 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Thanks everybody for the answers about Kitaro live. you've convinced me to go. I'll carry my portable DAT and my pair of stealth mics to tape him. ( wish it were TD!) Regards Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:19 pm Subject: Curious and Congrats to Lars ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky I am 32. My first exposure that really took was when I saw the movie 'The Soldier' and I also heard the same music while at the Omni-Max theatre at the Space Center in Huntsville AL.They were playing the music from Poland before the show. At the present time I have (only talking CD's here): 76 regular TD releases 19 TD bootlegs 6 regular Edgar Froese releases 3 EF bootlegs 23 regular Chris Franke releases (4 autographed) 1 CF bootleg 36 regular Klaus Schulze releases (1 Autographed) 2 regular Johannes Schmoelling releases CONGRATULATIONS TO LARS AND HIS FAMILY ON THE NEW ADDITION. Robert Grabowsky aka THE HIGHLANDER From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: RE: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) >I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but >being live music different im asking >Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? Considering the cost of most concerts these days, that sounds like a bargain! >Is he worth to be seen live? I like him - I think he's good live. >Shall I tape him ? Do! I'll trade you something for it if it sounds good. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 2:14 pm Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-05 15:49:30 EST, you write: << Next 13th ( firday by the way) Kitaro plays in my town ( Coruña) I have a couple of his albums and I'n not really into his music, but being live music different im asking Should I go and spend around 20 bucks ? Is he worth to be seen live? Shall I tape him ? >> i would say yes, definately...kitaro live is a whole different animal...he tours with a big band that includes kodo drummers, who alone are worth the price of admission...not too much cheese either...and yes, please tape...let me know when u got the goods...good luck and enjoy... tom w np: santana - napa valley 1989 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 3:32 pm Subject: RE: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Do other people have this problem? I find it hard to associate names with >tracks.I've been listening to Tangerine Dream music for about 7 years now. Definitely! I still don't know the tracks to Le Parc, and I bought it new! You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for my book: 'Let's see, that's off of Melrose, no, Lily, no, Destination Berlin, no. . .' I've found that singing the song title to the music helps: 'I'm walk-ing in Gau-di Park. It is real-ly nice here. . . ' Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11731 Re: Track Titles feldon@p... Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 4:38 pm Subject: POV ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' To you guys who've been here for a while...... Is it still possible to buy copies of POV? I've only been here on the list for about a month, and I hear it referred to, but I don't have the 'back issues'. I assume it's a boot, but it appears to be a good one. Anyone here interested in help me find one? Thanks. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11724 Re: POV Francisco Salgado C. Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB 11734 Re: POV-Trade for ? John M. Poer Fri 3/6/1998 4 KB 11750 Re: POV Michael Schuelke Sat 3/7/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 5:01 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'K.E' > >np; Nothing! I´m just going to watch a videotape of Vangelis playing at >the Eureka festival in Holland a few years ago... Ah yes, I went there. Waited for about 3 or 4 hours, but it was worth it. It's a shame the lasers couldn't be fully seen on tv. Was it live? I don't think so. But the show was worth it. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: E. Orgy still available...but not for long ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Yes, we still have some E. Orgies at SC that are still available, however they are in very short supply. If you need one they are still $70 plus shipping ($3.50 in the states, $10 if you are overseas). To order one call 1-714-839-3693 or email supercollector@s... Don't wait, this release is the ultimate slobberfest for TD fans. Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11727 Re: E. Orgy still available...but not for long SRiser3600 Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Colin Knowles > >Thats pretty much my opinion too. I must admit that I don't actually own either >Phaedraor Rubycon as albums. I've only heard them, and some other early stuff, as >they appear >on Tangents and err, Dream Roots. Rubycon is just too darn...eeerrr...I think >tedious is >the word I'm looking for. Can't speak for Phaedre since I can't remember what it >sounds like! When I first heard Encore, I didn't bought it either. Can you believe it!?! Now it's my fav. Colin, just buy the records and listen to it a few times (not background but really listen) and if you're opninion is still the same then there's something wrong with you! :-)) Just kidding. To me the old records are like a good tv-series, like Millenium. The new records are bad tv-series like ???? (don't know, don't watch them) Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 6:29 pm Subject: Re: Profiles from dreamaholics.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Rainer Rutka > > >From this time on I took EVERYTHING from TD. To my surprise, I like the >newer stuff, too. The 90ies stuff is good while working or driving and >the older records are very good for dreaming and relaxing. ('Go to bed >with a TD-record and you sleep very well after !'). I bought my first car! about 3 weeks ago, a 12 year old VW Golf (which seem to do very good). And I must admit, the new TD stuff is good when I'm driving to my work. So for now and in the future the new stuff will be played (and maybe discovered). Old stuff don't seem to work with me while driving. I loose my attention with the traffic. Marcel Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11816 Re: Profiles from dreamaholics.... Colin Knowles Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11817 Re: Profiles from dreamaholics.... Colin Knowles Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 8:35 pm Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 00:05:43 EST, you write: << I bought my brand new 'White Eagle' SBM CD >> Perhaps, I'm behind the times, but what is SBM? In the personal ads, it means Single Black Male. Just wondering again....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11732 Re: CD TD Disasters feldon@p... Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 8:45 pm Subject: Re: SEX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 07:55:29 EST, you write: << any female dream fans out there???? >> As far as I know, Dell is a female. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 8:49 pm Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 10:29:42 EST, you write: << You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for my book >> Do we have to hear about YOUR book in every correspondence? I went to the book store and didn't see it anywhere. Do you need a distributor or what? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: I am a nerd regent & I say *regret* Mann idea, arid german teen! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:02:03 -0500 (EST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >[. . .] there is a site on the web that gives you all possible anagrams >for a given set of words. I ran Tangerine Dream through and got >HUNDREDS of possibilities. Here are some of the more interesting >results: [They were created instantly by the Internet Anagram Server http://www.wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html] >Arid german teen Was Edgar exercising precognitive powers re Jerome's choice of coiffureture when he named the band, then? ;) >tree name in drag This one's interesting if one buys the Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds explanation re 'tangerine trees and marmalade skies.' >regret Mann idea Again, some precognition on Edgar's part . . . re THE KEEP? ;) ;) >Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 15:55:30 -0500 (EST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Re: Anagrams for 'Tangerine Dream' >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >Incidentally, I was inspired to submit the phrase 'Tangerine Dream' to >the Anagram Genius Server, a similar site. It spat out a few more good >ones: >I am a nerd regent Hey, well, that's besides the point; what TD fan isn't one? ;) -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11733 Re: I am a nerd regent & I say *regret* Mann idea Sean Montgomery Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:44 pm Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > In a message dated 98-03-06 00:05:43 EST, you write: > > << I bought my brand new 'White Eagle' SBM CD >> > > Perhaps, I'm behind the times, but what is SBM? In the personal ads, it means > Single Black Male. Just wondering again....David In the recording world it means SUPER BIT MAPPING, meaning it gives you a virtual 20 bit resolution out of a 16 bits format CD has using what is called Dithering and Noise shaping processes. It really works without the need for special playback equipment. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:40 pm Subject: Re: POV ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' Hi POV is not a bootleg. It's a genuine 'fan tape' in CDR format. It cover the Shepherd's bush concert ( 11/30/96) plus 4 extra live tracks to fill the 3rd CDR. It covers the full 145 minutes of the concert, including the 3 encores and the final farewell by Edgar. It uses 3 different sources ( 2 analog+ 1 digital) to cover this show ( although it's based in an analog source mainly ) It was digitally processed to eliminate tape hiss and to do EQ. Digital ( DAT) source was used for the encores and was also digitally processed to add a bit more stereo image and EQ too. If you want a copy, a lot of people here, including myself, are willing to help you ( doing a trade, not selling it). ---Francisco Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11734 Re: POV-Trade for ? John M. Poer Fri 3/6/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:49:33 EST >Subject: Re: Track Titles >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >In a message dated 98-03-06 10:29:42 EST, [Scott Plumer] wr[o]te: > ><< You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for my book >> > >Do we have to hear about YOUR book in every correspondence? I went to >the book store and didn't see it anywhere. [. . .] Well, duh! There were only about 50 printed. Scott's book, MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE, is a home-made deal, done up in spiral-notebook style with a clear plastic cover and a color xeroxed first page. Each copy is signed and numbered. You *won't* find one in a store. The same was/is the case with THE DREAM LIVES ON and VOICES IN THE DUNES. As for Paul Stump's DIGITAL GOTHIC, that book *was* issued by a real publisher, but it is small one in the UK and is a real bastard to find in the USA for a decent price. So, basically, if Scott didn't advertise his book, no one would hear about and/or know where to get it. >[. . .] Do you need a distributor or what? A publishing deal, more like. ;) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11739 Re: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE Andrew J. Rozsa Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11831 Re: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE Plumer, Scott Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Two Versions of MACULA TRANSFER on CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 21:49:02 -0000 >Subject: Re: Macula Transfer >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Lawry Simm > >I keep [. . .] Oboy, oboy: somebody brought up THE KEEP again! Slobber, drool, froth froth froth. ;) >[. . .] reading about the 2 versions of MT due for release sometime >this month [. . .] Huh?!? This is the first time I've heard of there being more than one version. (Manikin's putting MACULA TRANSFER out on CD, right?) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11737 Re: Two Versions of MACULA TRANSFER on CD? Jens Peschke Fri 3/6/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 9:57 pm Subject: Re: E. Orgy still available...but not for long ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 IS ELECTRONIC ORGY ALL TD MUSIC WHAT AND WHERE IS IT FROM steve From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 9:58 pm Subject: Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy Email from cdnow sez they shipped mine today, feedback when I get it! --tom Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11875 Luminous Visions Mitchell Dvoskin Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11888 Luminous Visions Ken Beal Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11889 Re: Luminous Visions Jim Moore Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11953 Luminous Visions Tom Gerardy Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 12027 Re: Luminous Visions Francisco Salgado C. Sun 3/15/1998 2 KB 12031 Luminous Visions Michael A Jean Sun 3/15/1998 3 KB 13294 Luminous Visions TangerineC Thu 4/23/1998 2 KB 13295 Luminous Visions TangerineC Thu 4/23/1998 2 KB 13457 Luminous Visions Sean Montgomery Thu 4/30/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:00 pm Subject: Re: SEX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 OK WHOS DELL ?? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: What I've Got, Music-wise ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Since people here seem to think that having 500 albums is a lot, let me say . . . I've *sold* that many albums! I have about 500 albums, about 400 cassettes, about 300 CDs, and about 300 videotapes. (And 18 full-length comic boxes full of comics.) About 125 of my CDs (counting duplicates and different pressings) are directly TD-related. So, if anyone wondered why I went to graduate school and became a librarian, wonder no more. ;) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11736 Re: What I've Got, Music-wise DAVENTURA Fri 3/6/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:25 pm Subject: RE: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > >Do other people have this problem? I find it hard to associate >names with > >tracks.I've been listening to Tangerine Dream music for about 7 >years now. > > Definitely! I still don't know the tracks to Le Parc, and I >bought it new! You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for >my book: 'Let's see, that's off of Melrose, no, Lily, no, Destination >Berlin, no. . .' > Zen Garden... Central Park... =) > I've found that singing the song title to the music helps: 'I'm >walk-ing in Gau-di Park. It is real-ly nice here. . . ' > > Scott > > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:29 pm Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >In a message dated 98-03-06 00:05:43 EST, you write: > ><< I bought my brand new 'White Eagle' SBM CD >> > >Perhaps, I'm behind the times, but what is SBM? In the personal ads, it means >Single Black Male. Just wondering again....David Super Bit-mapping A CD is 16-bit Original analog master tapes can have as much as 20-bits of clarity... So they came up with the bright idea of dithering the original from 20-bits down to 16-bits, rather than throwing the excess data away... What usually happens is that, not so much the SBM process, but the process of getting the best master and mixing it the best, make for much better CD quality... The difference between the original CDs and the SBMs can be phenomenal. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:21 pm Subject: Re: I am a nerd regent & I say *regret* Mann idea, arid german teen! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >regret Mann idea > > Again, some precognition on Edgar's part . . . re THE KEEP? ;) ;) I *knew* you'd like that one, Steve! > >I am a nerd regent > > Hey, well, that's besides the point; what TD fan isn't one? ;) Indeed.... Hey, I have one more to add, and I think it's the funniest yet: **A German I'd enter** SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 10:51 pm Subject: Re: POV-Trade for ? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 10:40 PM 3/6/1998 +0000, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > >Hi > >POV is not a bootleg. It's a genuine 'fan tape' in CDR format. >It cover the Shepherd's bush concert ( 11/30/96) plus 4 extra live >tracks to fill the 3rd CDR. > >It covers the full 145 minutes of the concert, including the 3 encores >and the final farewell by Edgar. It uses 3 different sources ( 2 analog+ >1 digital) to cover this show ( although it's based in an analog source >mainly ) It was digitally processed to eliminate tape hiss and to do EQ. > >Digital ( DAT) source was used for the encores and was also digitally >processed to add a bit more stereo image and EQ too. > >If you want a copy, a lot of people here, including myself, are willing >to help you ( doing a trade, not selling it). > >---Francisco Hi, Since I can't begin to imagine that I would have something 'tradeable' (never have recorded a show or whatever) would anyone consider a box of blank CDR's a fair trade...or what? Thanks. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 11:17 pm Subject: Re: SEX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 17:08:06 EST, you write: << OK WHOS DELL ?? >> She is known as AOutland on the list. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 11:19 pm Subject: Re: What I've Got, Music-wise ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 17:08:33 EST, you write: << (And 18 full-length comic boxes full of comics.) >> How did I know Stevie was gonna be a comic book collecter too? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 11:23 pm Subject: Re: Two Versions of MACULA TRANSFER on CD? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' Steven asked: > Huh?!? This is the first time I've heard of there being more than >one version. (Manikin's putting MACULA TRANSFER out on CD, right?) Indeed, it´s Mario Schoenwaelder´s Manikin label. You can order it (it should be out very soon, honest) either at http://www.eurock.com (USA), Groove Unlimited, (Netherlands) or http://www.manikin.de (Germany) as all of the other Manikin releases. Cheers Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 12:46 am Subject: State of Affairs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hello Td'ers, Since I have been a taping fool lately, I haven't had much to say . The so called tour seems to be a bust, and we are gonna get hit up for more releases (not a bad thing) and I must say I have limited my spending as of lately, so I guess I can open up for some new tunes. As for the ANAGRAM thread -can I say boring? Just my opinion , but I can think up better things to discuss than these silly scrabble dealy's. For the few who haven't snapped up the Orgy-do so it's been getting more airplay from me than any recent releases from TD, and is quite worth the price (especially if you don't own a record player) of course I don't own a cd player (unless you count my Discman). I do most of my CD listening in the car while doing my job. The home is for my beloved lp's and occasional cassettes. As for the official TD site, can we agree it's been a letdown for the past couple months? No offense Guru, but this is the real deal for the scoop. And -pun - FRANKELY, it's been a bit of a raw deal. No updates on those soundtracks being released, etc. etc. So let's get with it eh TD? Now for the real reason....anyone got a copy of the Logostypes they wanna sell? I'm too lazy to order one. =+) Dream on Chris NP- Shogun Assassin OST-butt kicken Shogun slashin' Mark Lindsey At his finest! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 1:43 am Subject: Re: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 04:34 PM 3/6/1998 EST, Steven Feldman wrote in response to DAVENTURA: >>Really-From: DAVENTURA >> >>In a message dated 98-03-06 10:29:42 EST, [Scott Plumer] wr[o]te: >> >>Do we have to hear about YOUR book in every correspondence? I went to >>the book store and didn't see it anywhere. [. . .] > So, basically, if Scott didn't advertise his book, no one would >hear about and/or know where to get it. Exactly. Ditto for Kent Eskildsen's book '30 Years of Dreaming.' I can't fathom how any TD fan can be without either one of them. 'Gothic' will crack most people's literary jaws -- it's using a seriously esoteric (and biased) language. Although, not to be missed either, IMHO. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 2:28 am Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > << I bought my brand new 'White Eagle' SBM CD >> > > Perhaps, I'm behind the times, but what is SBM? In the personal ads, it means > Single Black Male. Just wondering again....David ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Mr. Dave in Ventura...which section, *ahem,* of the newspaper are you reading??????? Nasty! E-Man np: King's X, Live in Hollywood, 1991 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:34 am Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-06 21:53:58 EST, you write: << Mr. Dave in Ventura...which section, *ahem,* of the newspaper are you reading??????? Nasty! >> You are a funny, funny guy. n.p. Firestarter...Side 2 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:47 am Subject: Re: please welcome td's newest fan! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' > >Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:09:51 -0500 >Subject: please welcome td's newest fan! >Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> > >Please welcome TD's newest fan: > >Kieran Bentley Jones (he's a boy! :-) >Born: 11:43 p.m. 3-3-98 (european or american dating!) >8 pounds 15.4 Ounces >21 1/2 inches > >everyone is doing well! Congrats, Lars! Say, does he have a favorite tune already? -- MIGUEL FARAH \ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ miguel@w... / P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O mfarah@p... \ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel / X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ #include \ r-- y? <*> 'Trust me - I know what I'm doing.' - Sledge Hammer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:49 am Subject: Re: tadream-digest V16 #211 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' >Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:22:28 EST >Subject: Re: curious >Really-From: SRiser3600 > >Hi, >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started listening to >Tdream >most seem very young! > >Me... M 45 1st heard tdream 1973 Me, 27 years old. First heard TD two years ago, _Logos_ was the album and was hooke forever. -- MIGUEL FARAH \ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ miguel@w... / P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O mfarah@p... \ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel / X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ #include \ r-- y? <*> 'Trust me - I know what I'm doing.' - Sledge Hammer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:55 am Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' >Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:44:07 -0500 >Subject: Re: curious >Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' > >tadream mailing list wrote: >> Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> >> >I'm curious about the ages of everyone and when they started >> listening to >> >Tdream most seem very young! > >Well, I first heard Phaedra in 92 when I got my first CD player. I was 14. >That makes me 19 today, 20 tomorrow. Can you believe, after my first >experience listening to *that*, that I would now have over 100 TD CDs? > >:-) Wow, and I thought that at 44 CDs I got many... (official albums only, counting Tangents and Dream Roots, no singles, no bootlegs) -- MIGUEL FARAH \ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ miguel@w... / P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O mfarah@p... \ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel / X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ #include \ r-- y? <*> 'Trust me - I know what I'm doing.' - Sledge Hammer From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 4:19 am Subject: Force Majeure & Exit in SBM? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' I was wondering... have _Force Majeure_ and _exit_ been released in SBM ever? I own or at least I have seen all the other Virgin years albums in SBM, but never ever even seen in catalogs those two. Do they exist? -- MIGUEL FARAH \ GCS/O d-(pu) s++:+>++: a26 C++ UL+>L++++ miguel@w... / P+ L>++ E--- W++ N+++ o+ K+++ w--(+) !O mfarah@p... \ M- V-- PS+(-) PE++ Y+ PGP-(+) t++@ 5++ http://www.webhost.cl/~miguel / X- R tv(+) b+ DI+ D++ G++++ e+(*) h!>++ #include \ r-- y? <*> 'Trust me - I know what I'm doing.' - Sledge Hammer Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11749 Re: Force Majeure & Exit in SBM? Jens Peschke Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11821 Re: Force Majeure & Exit in SBM? Colin Knowles Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 4:17 am Subject: Re: CD TD Disasters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > In a message dated 98-03-06 21:53:58 EST, you write: > > << Mr. Dave in Ventura...which section, *ahem,* of the newspaper are you > reading??????? Nasty! > >> > > You are a funny, funny guy. > > n.p. Firestarter...Side 2 np: Starbuck ~ 'Tonight......feels right.....' ROTFL From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 6, 1998 1:29 pm Subject: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: spidey Hey Francisco, I saw Kitaro back in 1987 in Boston, Mass. His live show was incredible! I highly recommend that you go see him. I hope he makes it over here again. Oscar From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 7:29 am Subject: Re: First Heard Tangerine Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 10:28 199803.05 -0500, tadream mailing list wrote: I wanted to listen to some more electronic music other than Carlos' _Switched on Bach_ so it was that I was to hear of TD It was about Spring of '81, driver's license, keys to my grandfather's handed down (now mine) '72 Plymouth Fury, trip to the local mall and made the mistake of going to one of those music stores that only stock the Top 40-ish stuff. The only TD in stock was the latest release (we played vinyl back then). It was the USA pressing of _Exit_ (neon tunnel w/ face on front, EF/CF/JS on back) I wondered just who these begoggled chaps were. I went home and practically locked myself in my room and played it almost a week (It drove my Mom crazy) This time I ventured forth to the local Tower Records and bought: Tangram Rubycon Stratosfear Force Majeure Cyclone as an 'attack dose' and have been hooked ever since. Call me a DreamHead.....but I pre-paid for '69-'73-ANALOGUE SPACE YEARS @ CDnow Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 7:26 am Subject: Re: Force Majeure & Exit in SBM? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' > >have _Force Majeure_ and _exit_ been released in SBM >ever? [...] Do they exist? Oh yes, they do. Especially the 'Exit' SBM is worth its money, as it sound way better than the normal (German) 'Virgin' release, which provides nice extra white noise samples all over the tracks. Doh! ta ra Yense Peach From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 9:32 am Subject: Re: POV ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Schuelke tadream mailing list schrieb: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > --------- > Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > > Hi > > POV is not a bootleg. It's a genuine 'fan tape' in CDR format. > It cover the Shepherd's bush concert ( 11/30/96) plus 4 extra live > tracks to fill the 3rd CDR. > > It covers the full 145 minutes of the concert, including the 3 encores > > and the final farewell by Edgar. It uses 3 different sources ( 2 > analog+ > 1 digital) to cover this show ( although it's based in an analog > source > mainly ) It was digitally processed to eliminate tape hiss and to do > EQ. > > Digital ( DAT) source was used for the encores and was also digitally > processed to add a bit more stereo image and EQ too. > > If you want a copy, a lot of people here, including myself, are > willing > to help you ( doing a trade, not selling it). > > ---Francisco --What are items for trading it? _______________________________ EVERY MAN DIES, NOT EVERY MAN REALLY LIVES. _______________________________ Michael Schülke braveheart@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 11:19 am Subject: Re: Macula Transfer [inc. SBM & GoldTri 2CD Set] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Andy Bloyce “Yense Peach” said of the Macula Transfer CD: >Indeed, it’s Mario Schoenwaelder’s Manikin label. According to the new Compact Disc Services Catalogue (Dundee, UK) this may only be half of the story. Here’s their text pretty much as it’s written, apologies if this as been previously reported: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Macula Transfer (Original) 13.99 Macula Transfer (Remixed/Remastered Version) 9.29 The saga continues ... There are now two versions of this CD scheduled for release ... The first is the “original” mix that is coming from Germany (due end Feb) and the second version in early spring from the UK and this issue is seemingly remixed and remastered by TD. This Froese solo LP sounds closest to T-Dream’s mid-70’s music. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Compact Disc Services also mention that they hope to have both a web site and email facilities soon. BTW, the prices are UKP and don’t include postage from the UK. Anyone desperately looking for any SBMs could email me privately, I’ll happily look round some shops for you. I do see quite a few in the shops here in the UK, although not as many as I used to. I’m sure an equitable trade can be found. Ah, the way the mind works. Moving on from SBM, and its dithering technique, can I remind any of you that might be dithering over the purchase of the GoldTri 2CD set to buy it quickly - they are selling fast. The final running order is quite simply brilliant, lots of exclusive tracks from some of the big boys. For further details tune in to: http://www.ratfink.demon.co.uk/stonker You will not be disappointed. I won’t be bothering you with this info again. This has been a public service announcement. Andy. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11752 Re: Macula Transfer [inc. SBM & GoldTri 2CD Set] Marcel Engels Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 11:58 am Subject: Re: Macula Transfer [inc. SBM & GoldTri 2CD Set] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Andy Bloyce > >Macula Transfer (Original) 13.99 >Macula Transfer (Remixed/Remastered Version) 9.29 > >The saga continues ... There are now two versions of this CD scheduled for >release ... The first is the “original” mix that is coming from Germany >(due end Feb) and the second version in early spring from the UK and this >issue is seemingly remixed and remastered by TD. This Froese solo LP sounds >closest to T-Dream’s mid-70’s music. Hhmm, remixed and remastered smells a bit like Tangenized to me. If it's true then I definitely know which version I'll buy. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 2:03 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Robin.A.Seed' Greetings, Well I have heard this thread a few years ago........how many of us were/are teenagers when we first heard TD? and now we all have mega TD collections. I am now 28 and my first TD album that i purchaced what Dream Sequence this was in the mid 80's, I soon went and bought all the cd's that were on that compilation.....and the story goes on...............I think i have more than 100 TD and TD related releases. I remember hearing various TD tapes from a good friend of mine, mainly 70's 'classics' Tangaram,FM,Logos,Hyperboria.... but Underwater Sunlight is one of my favorites....i use this one when i am testing out an new stereo, (the neighbours were complaining last time we tested out my friends Kef reference series - and it was only on volume 2!!!!) Rob From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:10 pm Subject: Two answers ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: '=?iso-8859-1?B?RnLpZOlyaWMgWWFyZ3Vp?=' 500 albums is not a not (oh, no!) and I forgot KS was (had been) TD related. Greetings to all Fred From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:23 pm Subject: D:List, Addendum Week 4 - 8th March 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' This week we would like to hear comments on the OST: Jim and Pablo : Der Meteor Please make the subject heading D: Der Meteor when replying. I'd be particularly interested in any comments you have on this, as I don't have this album myself, nor have I ever seen it for sale. Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:57 pm Subject: RE: SBM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > The difference between the original CDs and the SBMs can be phenomenal. > Morgan > feldon@p... I have a few SBM versions now, and the clarity of sound is absolutely fantastic. I immediately sold all my non SBM versions as they we're no where near as good. Lawry Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11760 Re: SBM John M. Poer Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11782 Re: SBM feldon@p... Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 4:12 pm Subject: Alpha Centauri ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Is anyone going to the Alpha Centauri festival in The Netherlands later this month that fancies meeting up? Lawry. np - Push the feeling on (midi file) - Nightcrawlers PS - Mr Feldman, you seem to be a big fan of this band... is all their stuff like this? Any recommendations? Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12130 Alpha Centauri Lawry Simm Wed 3/18/1998 2 KB 12132 Re: Alpha Centauri Jens Peschke Wed 3/18/1998 3 KB 12133 Re: Alpha Centauri Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/19/1998 3 KB 12147 Re: Alpha Centauri Jens Peschke Thu 3/19/1998 3 KB 12159 Re: Alpha Centauri Marcel Engels Thu 3/19/1998 3 KB 12243 Alpha Centauri Lawry Simm Tue 3/24/1998 4 KB 12248 Re: Alpha Centauri Jens Peschke Tue 3/24/1998 6 KB 12249 Re: Alpha Centauri K.E Tue 3/24/1998 3 KB 12256 Re: Alpha Centauri Lawry Simm Tue 3/24/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 3:54 pm Subject: Re: Macula Transfer ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >>[. . .] reading about the 2 versions of MT due for release sometime >>this month [. . .] > Huh?!? This is the first time I've heard of there being more than >one version. (Manikin's putting MACULA TRANSFER out on CD, right?) > -- Steven Feldman Steven, From the latest edition of Voyager... 'It appears that Virgin (UK) intend to release both this and THE KEEP at the same time.....' and 'A German edition of Macula Transfer will also be released by Mario Schonwalder's label.' By the way, Voyager is a UK Based 'Tangerine Dream and Electronic Music Magazine' and has just issued a special two issue set featuring a 'TD at 30 years' celebration. I also notice that there are a few list members who have contributed to the issues. Details and subscriptions can be obtained from jasonh@g... I am not connected in any way with the magazine... just a subscriber and a fan. Lawry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 4:09 pm Subject: Yense Peach ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' Hi Jens, Is your surname really pronounced Peach? I've been reading your name as 'Jens Pesh' for ages, and only recently got my head around 'Yense'. Sorry for my ignorance, I'll try harder in future! :-) Lorry Simm - quite straightforward really From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 5:12 pm Subject: RE: SBM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 03:57 PM 3/7/1998 -0000, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > > >> The difference between the original CDs and the SBMs can be phenomenal. >> Morgan >> feldon@p... > > >I have a few SBM versions now, and the clarity of sound is absolutely >fantastic. I immediately sold all my non SBM versions as they we're no >where near as good. > > >Lawry OK, have patience with 'the old man' but, tell me...... Are SBM releases 'commercial' or are they, ah...., 'private' productions. Can they be bought from conventional sources or are they strictly barter and trade items. You've made it sound like replacing as many of my non-SBM CD's as possible is a good idea....now, how do I start. Thanks to anyone who will take the time to answer. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11782 Re: SBM feldon@p... Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 6:00 pm Subject: Re: Yense Peach + SBM info for jp ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' > >Hi Jens, > >Is your surname really pronounced Peach? Nope, I was kidding. I understood Dano´s initial question as joke. 'Peach' (the fruit and not the skin condition!) is the translation of the Italian 'pesce'. Thought it might be funny on a 'Tangerine' mailing list. No ? 'Pesch' rhymes with 'cash', 'ke' is pronouced like 'cat' without the 't'. TD content: jp asked: >Are SBM releases 'commercial' or are they, ah...., 'private' productions. >Can they be bought from conventional sources or are they strictly barter >and trade items They are officially versions released by the English Virgin label. Most are gone in the shops I visited recently, some are still available in the UK, Andy_Bloyce@c... offered his help in a mail yesterday. Ask him. Did you only read some e-mails, John ? ;-) Cheers Jens P. np: Waldorf Microwave II. Yummi ! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: KITARO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mikey@n... (Mike Szymendera) incidentally, the homepage www.domo.com lists the Kitaro Tour dates for '98... unfortunately, none in the US :( Now, if only TD could keep their homepage up-to-date !!!!!!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I think I might be doing those interested in seeing Kitaro live a favor by saying that what you will hear and what you will see are two very different things. Yes, he has a nice stage show. So did Kiss in 1978. The first rock concert I ever attended was Kiss at the Providence Civic Center in 1978. They bit. Sure, it was really peachy-keen, boss, fab, groovy, and all to see Gene Simmons spout blood and fire, to see Peter Criss's drum kit rise up on a crane and then do a 360 degree head-over-heels rotation, to see flashing colored lights strobing up the stairs, etc., but . . . the music was performed strictly by the numbers and wholly unremarkable (even compared to the original versions). Kitaro only comes across as impressive because of the amount of irregular (i.e. traditional Japanese) instrumentation onstage. Have you seen 'Yanni Live at the Acropolis'? The effect is similar in that he is shown surrounded by a full orchestra in a dramatically-lit historical site. Ditto Jean-Michel Jarre with his laser shows projected across cityscapes, and his show at Mexican pyramids or somesuch: nice visuals, questionable music. Ever hear of MTV? That's *their* formula. ;) Kitaro can be every bit as quirmingly sappy, cutesy, and nauseating as John Tesh and Yawni. It's up to you if you feel like seeing a stage stage show/musical performance instead of hearing a good concert ('good' in this context being defined as music that you feel justifies the price of the ticket you paid to hear it). -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11828 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Plumer, Scott Mon 3/9/1998 2 KB 12008 Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Francisco Salgado C. Sat 3/14/1998 6 KB 12012 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Paul Nagle Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12016 'Beam' Brian E. Kirby Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12020 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing DJS Sun 3/15/1998 4 KB 12022 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Paul Nagle Sun 3/15/1998 3 KB 12023 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Paul Nagle Sun 3/15/1998 3 KB 12024 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing SRiser3600 Sun 3/15/1998 2 KB 12026 Re: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing Francisco Salgado C. Sun 3/15/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 7:02 pm Subject: Re: D: Der Meteor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-07 10:30:29 EST, you write: I'd be particularly interested in any comments you have on this, as I don't have this album myself, nor have I ever seen it for sale. >> spare urself....what a waste....at least rumpelstilchen had a story... tom w np: avantgardism vol. 2 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11781 Re: D: Der Meteor feldon@p... Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11793 Re: D: Der Meteor TWeibre361 Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11819 D: Der Meteor Hilmar Kraft Mon 3/9/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: MACULA TRANSFER--BEYOND THE STORMized Version ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 12:58:23 +0100 >Subject: Re: Macula Transfer [inc. SBM & GoldTri 2CD Set] >To: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Marcel Engels > >>Really-From: Andy Bloyce > >>Macula Transfer (Original) 13.99 >>Macula Transfer (Remixed/Remastered Version) 9.29 [. . .] >Hhmm, remixed and remastered smells a bit like Tangenized to me. >If it's true then I definitely know which version I'll buy. I'll be buying the TANGENTized version. I think MACULA TRANSFER and AGES have taken awhile to get onto CD for a reason: they are two of the weaker TD-releases ever done. (To be fair, that doesn't explain why EPSILON IN MALAYSIAN PALE and Peter Baumann's ROMANCE 76 are out-of- print, though, does it?) The remixed MACULA TRANSFER tracks on the Froese compilation LP SOLO 1974-1979 (also on Disc Two of ELECTRONIC ORGY) are better than the originals. Such is especially the case with the remixed 'OS 452.' The real problem is that side two of MACULA TRANSFER (and about two-thirds of AGES) is really weak. If the upcoming remixed MACULA TRANSFER is anything like the stuff on BEYOND THE STORM, I might really like it. I really like the version of 'Upland' that is on BtS. After about 45 seconds, it is nothing like the original, but is rather nice in its own way. (I put this 'Upland' remix in the same category as the remixes of 'Phaedra' and 'Logos' that are on TANGENTS.) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 7:03 pm Subject: thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Thanks to everyone for your public and privates wishes on the birth of my son! As you can guess, I'm way behind in my replies so please be patient ;-) thanks lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 19:43:58 -0600 >Subject: Re: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Andrew J. Rozsa > >[. . .] '[Digital] Gothic' will crack most people's literary jaws -- >it's using a seriously esoteric (and biased) language. [. . .] Specifically, it uses semiotics jargon and classical music jargon. Anyone familiar with both would have no problem. That means that there is probably no one on this entire list who would be able to understand every single term in the book. I majored in semiotics, but am not a musician, so *I'm* shit out of luck. -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11791 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Mark Fonda Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11798 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity John Majka Sun 3/8/1998 4 KB 11802 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 3/8/1998 5 KB 11832 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity feldon@p... Mon 3/9/1998 4 KB 11834 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Michael Fox Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11803 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Steven Feldman Sun 3/8/1998 5 KB 11805 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Vic Rek Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11811 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Andrew J. Rozsa Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11849 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Phil PDX Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: On the TD Periphery ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman I just got on the mailing list of a New Zealand mailorder music company that specializes in progressive music (including 'krautrock'). Here are the parts of the newsletter peripherally relevant to this list: -- Steven Feldman + + + + + + + From: 'Richard Stockwell' To: Subject: Cranium_Music_Newsletter Number 5 Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:24:30 +1300 Message-ID: <01bd4989$4ef0e800$7afd31ca@c...> Sender: cranium@c... Reply-To: 'Richard Stockwell' Welcome to the Cranium Music Newsletter #5 (early March '98). Please note that if you do not wish to continue receiving this free update then send an email to richard@c... with the 'REMOVE' within a nice friendly letter :) &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& [...] our website. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Further upcoming releases on the brand new Cranium Music Label are [...] SH'MANTRA 1ST (Late April) ... Australian Band. Genre: Umagumma period Floyd/Tangerine Dream meets Tangle Edge. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Snapper Records, who are now the new label for OZRIC TENTACLES will start to reissue the bands back catalogue from late April. The first three reissues will be Pungent Effulgent, Strangitude & Jurassic Shift. Each reissue will feature bonus tracks. Two months later Snapper Records intend to release a further three titles. This pattern will continue until the entire back catalogue is available again. The reissuing of the back catalogue is due to the demise of Dovetail Records. All releases will be in the mid price range. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& Later this year a OZRIC TENTACLES remix album will appear. Various DJ's will remix tracks much like the recent GONG & HAWKWIND remixes. &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& ----------------------------------------------------------------------- If you wish to be removed from this mailing list, send an email to: majordomo@c... with the words unsubscribe newsletter in the email body (not subject). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- This mailing list is owned by Cranium Music - http://www.cranium.co.nz, and is maintained by webmaster@c... . We use Majordomo, version 1.94.3. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Off-topic re DA Music Liquidation Sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Okay, so there were/are Rainer Bloss and Richard Wanfried CDs on DA Music's Liquidation Sale list, so I guess this post isn't *entirely* irrelevant to this list. ;) Just a quick note to say: o I received my order of 30 CDs and CAs (cassettes) from DA yesterday. o 8 out of the 30 were items I had not requested (but 3 of them were related to the type of music and/or bands whose items I had ordered). o none of my alternate choices had been enclosed. If anyone wants to order from DA's sale, make sure you list more than the requested 10% of alternate choices. If I were you, I'd list a a f**kload of alternate choices to make sure you don't get almost of third of a box of inane crap (like I did). -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 9:17 pm Subject: Re: D: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TellMe1000 >Really-From: Colin Knowles > Tournado - Tangerine Dream Live TDI1008CD > > Recorded live on April 23rd 1997 at the 'Dome Muziki i Tanca' in the city of > Zabrze in Poland. > >One good point for me is that it was recorded on my birthday! Now if the concert >hadbeen in Manchester as well...:-) Hey Colin! My birthday is also April 23 and that is also one of the reasons this CD caught my eye. See you later! Mike Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11774 Re: D: Tournado Tom Monaghan Sat 3/7/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 9:47 pm Subject: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Just put on Tyger, Side 1 blows, but Side 2...Alchemy of the Heart...starts off good, builds...I like it....Can't remember the last time I listened to this...Gotta play it loud...David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11775 Re: Now Playing Marcel Engels Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11776 Re: Now Playing Jens Peschke Sat 3/7/1998 3 KB 11783 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11777 Re: Now Playing Jens Peschke Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11790 Re: Now Playing Paul Nagle Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11778 Re: Now Playing Marcel Engels Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11779 Re: Now Playing Vic Rek Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11784 Re: Now Playing Tom Monaghan Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11785 Re: Now Playing Tom Monaghan Sun 3/8/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 9:47 pm Subject: Re: curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hammer1612 I first heard of TD in 1976 when Stratosfear was a new release, I was 19 then. Virgin put an ad in Rolling Stone advertising it as a new release. The ad used the following tag line set in between the 'mirrors' from the cover of the LP: 'There is no escaping a Tangerine Dream .' I thought it was a very cool ad and so I went looking for a copy and bought it that very day with no clue what sort of music was on it. Fell in love with it instantly since I was already a big e-music fan. I ended up buying all the imports that came out prior to that, thank goodness I only had a few to buy... Ended up seeing the 1977 North American tour in Boulder right before it got cancelled and bought every release ever since. Tournado was recorded on my 40th birthday, April 23. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 9:50 pm Subject: Sorry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA I spoke too soon, please disregard that last post...David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11840 Sorry DAVENTURA Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11873 Re: Sorry Michael Fox Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 15495 Sorry Daventura Sat 4/3/1999 1 KB 15513 Re: Sorry Joe Shoults Tue 4/6/1999 2 KB 21783 Sorry Lawry Simm Sun 4/9/2000 2 KB 27656 Sorry vic rek Thu 7/12/2001 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 10:21 pm Subject: Re: D: Tournado ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >>One good point for me is that it was recorded on my birthday! Now if the >concert >>hadbeen in Manchester as well...:-) > > >Hey Colin! My birthday is also April 23 and that is also one of the reasons >this CD caught my eye. See you later! > >Mike Okay, how many others on this list were born on April 23? Tom (ME!!! ME!!!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 10:46 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >Just put on Tyger, Side 1 blows, but Side 2...Alchemy of the Heart...starts >off good, builds...I like it....Can't remember the last time I listened to >this...Gotta play it loud...David This CD together with LiveMiles we're, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. Marcel Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels Email :fsp@w... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 7, 1998 11:22 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? Jens Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11783 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 12:18 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'DAVID HAESLER' I must agree that Tyger is probably the worst TD album ever. Vocals indeed! ---------- From: tadream mailing list To: tadream@c... Subject: Re: Now Playing Date: 07 March, 1998 11:22 PM ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? Jens ---------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11790 Re: Now Playing Paul Nagle Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 12:35 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >>Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. >Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make >it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? OK, I mean Alchemy of the Heart. The rest is pretty average. London second half (instrumental) is good. Has a nice guitar-part. Marcel From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 1:58 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >>Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >>This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. > >Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make >it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? I disagree. I like the CDs where TD uses vocals (maybe one out of every 20 releases), not harpsicord. I'll admit that this isn't a fantastic album, but I really like 'Smile' + '20th Century Common Man'. The release to have is the US one on Caroline, because it has a nice booklet with color pictures and the logo is on the disc. The re-mixes are not any better than the originals. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 1:57 am Subject: No Escape from Stratosfear ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Hammer1612 >I first heard of TD in 1976 when Stratosfear was a new release, I was 19 then. >Virgin put an ad in Rolling Stone advertising it as a new release. The ad >used the following tag line set in between the 'mirrors' from the cover of the >LP: 'There is no escaping a Tangerine Dream .' I have a cardboard US promo mobile that shows the album cover and is shaped like an hour glass and at the top it says 'There is no escape from Tangerine Dream'. Quite an interesting marketing phrase. Was 'Stratosfear' and 'no escape' supposed invoke some kind 'mysticism' with this release. Anyway, I'm glad you picked it up. I think Stratosfear is fantastic. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 3:23 am Subject: Re: D: Der Meteor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: TWeibre361 > >In a message dated 98-03-07 10:30:29 EST, you write: > > I'd be particularly interested in any comments you have on this, as I don't > have this album myself, nor have I ever seen it for sale. > >> > >spare urself....what a waste....at least rumpelstilchen had a story... Oh, you understand German? Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 3:22 am Subject: RE: SBM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:12 AM 3/7/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > >At 03:57 PM 3/7/1998 -0000, you wrote: >>Really-From: 'Lawry Simm' >> >> >>> The difference between the original CDs and the SBMs can be phenomenal. >>> Morgan >>> feldon@p... >> >> >>I have a few SBM versions now, and the clarity of sound is absolutely >>fantastic. I immediately sold all my non SBM versions as they we're no >>where near as good. >> >> >>Lawry > >OK, have patience with 'the old man' but, tell me...... haha >Are SBM releases 'commercial' or are they, ah...., 'private' productions. Um, they are published by the original publishers. >Can they be bought from conventional sources or are they strictly barter >and trade items. Stores and mail-order. >You've made it sound like replacing as many of my non-SBM CD's as possible >is a good idea....now, how do I start. At Tower Records, etc. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 3:37 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 12:22 AM 3/8/98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >>Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >>This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. > >Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make >it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? Is this the 1987 one or the 1992 one? Of course, I have Dream Roots, so I really don't need it. =) Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:08 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >>This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. > >Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make >it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? I was disappointed with Tyger when it first released but over time and with the additional material on the rerelease I have come to appreciate it much more than my initial response. I do agree with you to some extent. It may not be one of their best albums but it surely is not the worst. Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:16 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >I must agree that Tyger is probably the worst TD album ever. Vocals indeed! Vocals? Not. Have you heard of the poetry of William Blake? It may be debatable if the synthesis of TDs music and Blake's poetry was a success but there is no denying the fact that Blake had a fan following *long* before the Tangs did. Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:56 am Subject: luminous visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 CDNOW claims I will receive my copy of the cd/video on Monday! CAN'T WAIT. I'll give a review if anyone is interested when I receive it. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:58 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' Really-From: tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) >>This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. > >Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make >it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? I was disappointed with Tyger when it first released but over time and with the additional material on the rerelease I have come to appreciate it much more than my initial response. I do agree with you to some extent. It may not be one of their best albums but it surely is not the worst. Tom ---------- I think most people will agree that TD's lowest end (sorry I mean worst) stuff comes off of some soundtracks. But don't blame TD for releasing said tracks, blame certain fanatics who wont be happy unless every bit and peice of a movie score is released. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 9:30 am Subject: Happy Franke Fan Elana...reaching your e-music heroes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Okay, this post will either draw hurrahs or flames...but I'm ready for both. Here goes: Even though I've been booted from the Goldtri list some time ago for making A joke about Elana going to the Netherlands I still get mail forwarded to me by several list members looking out for my interest. Mail usually forwarded to me is of interest to me, aka info on the current Goldtri CD (which I was fortunate enough to be involved with...thanks Andy,Tony,Jens,etc) or mail involving several up & coming artists or established e-music artists (such as Paul Nagle or Grant Middleton). Other mail forwarded to me makes me laugh, sometimes uncontrollably. The following quoted letter is from Elana and pertains to her conversation with former TD member, Chris Franke. I just HAD to respond to this. Warning, you may need a bucket to throw up in. > > YAY!!!! > > > > I've just now come home to a blinking answering machine, and when I > > listened to the messages, a VERY familiar, lovely German-accented voice > > started speaking at me... Yay, it's CHRIS!!! :) :) :) > > Man, oh, man, I've *missed* that guy... last time I talked to him was > > almost a year ago after I dislocated my knee and figured A year ago!?!? Boy...you two sure sound close, heh heh. I needed a real > > dose of Franke-contact as medicine to temporarily distract me from the > > fact that I was painfully crippled for several weeks. Hey, didn't your mom call you? He came through > for > > me then as he had come through for me before (since 1991)... the lovely > > memory of that supportive conversation helped muchly as my leg fully > > healed over time. There is a very warm, classy, humorous, lovely human > > being behind that serious, well-known face on the classic-era TD album > > covers. :) Why oh why are you telling us this!?!? Ugh. This is the most blatant case of 'hey everyone, I know Franke...aren't I cool!?!?' I've ever seen. I wonder if she's on the Synergy groups singing of how she talks to Larry Fast or the new age groups blabbing of how she talks to Mark Dwane (woo hoo...oh the celebrity status!). > > > > ANYway... he sez he shall call again very soon so he and I can talk > about > > whatever is going on. I plan to tell him all about Goldtri and the lovely > > net-community you guys have knitted together here. Don't forget to mention the fish. I'll let him know all > > the cool stuff you guys have worked for and accomplished in these last > > several months. He'll enjoy that. That's okay Elana...we can tell him ourselves, but thanks! Hey Jens, could you spare a GTCD that > > I could send to him? > > I wish Chris had called a month ago... I would have asked if he could > > contribute some good classic-electronic piece to the GTCD. Wait a sec...I thought the Goldtri CD was for unestablished or up & coming musicians. Franke is so hardcore established a hurricane couldn't move him, not that I wouldn't like to see a Franke track on any CD...but I think the GT CD is a better place for artists who aren't so well known. Maybe I'll > ask > > him if he would donate a piece which I can save on my shelf until Goldtri > > Volume II comes around (whenever that someday happens!) I'll see what he > > thinks of that idea... maybe see if he could have the time to get around > > to it. It also would depend on if you guys would want that as well. Are you sure it would depend on what WE want? > > > > On to my main point: if you have any burning questions for CHRIS, please > > email them to me before Sunday, March 8, 8:00am, Pacific Standard Time. Huh? As if anyone here can't email him themselves. You act as if Franke is some celebrity who can't be reached. If anyone wants to email Franke just go to the SI homepage & there you will find an email address that you can direct any question you want to. > > Sorry about the very short notice, but there isn't much warning-time. > > > > I'll be posting any news he has to give on Goldtri.> > > > (...and Chris better not go giving me any juicy new music news and then > > swear me to not to tell it to anyone... I HATE it when he does that; it > > drives me abso-friggin-lutely NUTS!) :-P :) Hahahahaha!! Another case of 'in your face' bragging. I sure hope I'm not the only one who sees this cheese. If there were anything Franke had to say about anything (especially B5) I'm quite sure he'd tell the fanclub or his distributors first. > > > > Take care all... looking forward to any cool Franke-questions fellow > > GTers may have... > > > > -Elana Okay, the meaning of this post isn't to flame Elana actually, it's to let everyone know that reaching 'celebrities' or 'musicians' in this world isn't as difficult as some out there would have us think. Heck, my buddy Bob met Franke AND visited his home studios, just on a whim.....and he's just a fan (but the coolest, most polite fan you could have)! If you are courteous and professional you'd be surprised how easy it is to talk with established musicians or similar persona. As soundtrack producers, we talk & deal with many of the biggest composers in the world. Just treat them like people & you won't need to give attention to egotistical people who try to live off of the fame emitting from celebrities they happen to 'slightly know' (or musicians in this case). Go to the source, it's easier than you think....right McCloud? Now I'd better go before I inject some high dose humor I'm sure few here would appreciate heh heh. Of course, by popular demand, I could inject a snippet. Regards, yer pal, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11795 Re: Happy Franke Fan Elana...reaching your e-musi TWeibre361 Sun 3/8/1998 3 KB 11813 Re...reaching your e-music heroes Robert Grabowsky Mon 3/9/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 9:37 am Subject: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Well, my response to a pathetic bragging comment about talking to Franke has led me to this interesting question for list members. Who have you met on a personal level in the e-music realm? Have you talked to Edgar face to face while food dangles from his moustache? Have you talked to Paul while his new wave cut blew in the wind? Did Ralf tell you to piss up a rope after you told him his performance sucked? Tell all! We want to know! Really, Dano (this is actually NOT an attempt to cover up the really exciting thread on the greatest album of all time....Tyger. No, really ;-) ) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11796 Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personall TWeibre361 Sun 3/8/1998 4 KB 11812 Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personall Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11846 Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personall DJS Tue 3/10/1998 4 KB 11848 Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personall DAVENTURA Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11863 Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personall TWeibre361 Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 4:29 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Paul Nagle On Sun, 8 Mar 1998 00:18:21 -0000, tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) wrote: >I must agree that Tyger is probably the worst TD album ever. Vocals indeed! I think it's great. At least it was an attempt to try something different and mostly it came off. Paul np Tangents (and quite enjoying it - there's life in the old Ed yet) --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ www.softroom.demon.co.uk --------------------------------------------------------------------------------\ ------------------ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 10:59 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda > Specifically, it uses semiotics jargon and classical music jargon. > Anyone familiar with both would have no problem. That means that there > is probably no one on this entire list who would be able to understand > every single term in the book. I majored in semiotics, but am not a > musician, so *I'm* shit out of luck. > > -- Steven Feldman Although I think Digital Gothic is a great book, I am not pleased with Mr. Stump's style of language which seems to just be an attempt to impress his readers with his vocabulary. It's interesting to find out that there is an actual explanation for this, but I'm still put off by it. A book should be written to appeal to the broad audience, not just for academic or personal reasons, unless you don't want to sell many copies. Mark From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 8:47 pm Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Philip Meyer Hi Vic, >>Has anyone created a track listing for the three PersistanceOf Vision CDRs yet? >>It will take me ages to identify all of the titles :-) >I have it - contact me off list :-) > Thankyou! Phil --Phil Meyer-------------------------- phil@h... amarok@c... http://www.hergest.demon.co.uk --------God loves his children, yeah-- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 2:18 pm Subject: Re: D: Der Meteor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-07 22:23:16 EST, you write: << > I'd be particularly interested in any comments you have on this, as I don't > have this album myself, nor have I ever seen it for sale. > >> > >spare urself....what a waste....at least rumpelstilchen had a story... Oh, you understand German? Morgan >> and speak it fluently also... tom w np: the cult - sonic temple From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 2:23 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-08 00:17:24 EST, you write: << Not. Have you heard of the poetry of William Blake? It may be debatable if the synthesis of TDs music and Blake's poetry was a success but there is no denying the fact that Blake had a fan following *long* before the Tangs did. >> if ur interested in this synthesis, try jah wobble's 'the inspiration of william blake', an intelligent work imo... tom w np: above From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 3:19 pm Subject: Re: Happy Franke Fan Elana...reaching your e-music heroes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-08 03:30:59 EST, you write: << Now I'd better go before I inject some high dose humor I'm sure few here would appreciate heh heh. Of course, by popular demand, I could inject a snippet. >> go right ahead...as ur pal said: ' the lovely > > memory of that supportive conversation helped muchly ' , as im sure ur humor would help us 'muchly'.... i gotta subscribe... tom w np: chaos face = doom ride From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 3:33 pm Subject: Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-08 03:36:59 EST, you write: << Well, my response to a pathetic bragging comment about talking to Franke has led me to this interesting question for list members. Who have you met on a personal level in the e-music realm? Have you talked to Edgar face to face while food dangles from his moustache? Have you talked to Paul while his new wave cut blew in the wind? Did Ralf tell you to piss up a rope after you told him his performance sucked? Tell all! We want to know! >> as usual ill bite...back in 81, robert fripp was doing his first frippertronic tour and was playing at the u. of pennsylvania in philly...we knew we had to tape it, but knowing how quirky fripp is on this issue and the small size of the venue, we had to resort to unconventional means...so we went to a medical supply house, rented a wheelchair, taped the mics to the arm rests, and had my buddy sitting in the thing with a blanket covering the deck...fripp, who was tuning up and checking his decks, graciously requested that our suddenly wheelchair bound buddy be placed right in front of him...at the end of a nice 60 minute set, and after fripp takes his bows, my buddy, who was being fed margaritas via a straw the whole time, starts screaming: 'fripp healed me...i feel my legs...hallelujah...fripp is god', jumps outta the chair and runs outta the place...pandemonium ensues of course, and fripp is flabergasted...the story does not end though...next day, fripp is doing promo signing at a record store, and i walk in with a j-card and ask him to sign it for the guy he had healed yesterday, becuz the tape of the gig would be incomplete without it...needless to say, fripp went ballistic, spewing obscenities left and right...i had a good laugh... tom w np: fripp - exposure From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:03 pm Subject: Age, number of CD's, 'n' stuff... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' Age, 42. First heard TD in '73; 'Phaedra' at about 0300 on the late, lamented WGTB in Washington DC. Lost interest in e-music for a while (got punk-y for a bit and The Clash still rule!), but got back into it in a big way after buying White Eagle in '81. Been back ever since... Collection, over 2000 CD's. Well over a 100 TD and TD-related CD's, some duplicates (most duplicated; Tangram with 3 copies, two non-SBM; one with the red cover, one with the purple cover and the SBM-reissue. No, wait a minute, it is a tie with Logos; one Japanese version, the original Virgin release and the SBM). Five Oreo's. Rare stuff in the pile; Zoo Of Tranquillity and White Out, the Heavy Metal version of 'Flashpoint', which I had the sad experience of hearing the ever increasing decaying of, autographed copy of 'Optical Race' with Ralf's signature. Other 'big counts' in the collection are Hawkwind and Zappa. Between these three artists, I probably have over 300 CD's...Still have about 1500 LP's, but I think I'm going to purge a bunch of those. Definitely gonna keep the Japanese LP's of the TD stuff I have (prior to CD's, the Japanese LP's were the absolute best LP's on the market; virgin vinyl every pressing, anti-static sleeves, additional artwork, beacoup liner notes (in Japanese :-( ) and heavy-duty packaging). Almost all of my cassettes are 'home-grown' with only about 50 being pre-recorded. Cranium Music; good company to deal with. Ordered via secure server on Sunday, got confirmation of shipment on Wednesday, received package one week later. Good service! Congrats on the latest addition! My newest addition will be a year old in a little less than two months. She like any TD that has a strong beat to it. Funny to watch that little body bouncing up and down, either standing up or in my arms! Any of you that have the chance to go to the Alpha Centauri festival had better do it!! There is gonna be some great music there and the chance to get some great e-music CD's. I have just received a copy of Marcel Engles' FSP CD's and you are doing yourself a great dis-service by not snagging a copy. This is excellent music, well recorded and deserves to be heard by a much wider audience. With the pending release of two versions of Macula Transfer (at last!!) has there been any word on whether or not the missing track from 'Ages' is going to appear on one of 'em? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Craig Shipley craigs@s... Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc. 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE Suite 400 Atlanta, Georgia 30342 (404) 845-3404 Corporate Voice Mail (800) 333-5754 x-2023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 5:26 pm Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Majka At 06:59 AM 3/8/98 -0400, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: Mark Fonda > > >> Specifically, it uses semiotics jargon and classical music jargon. >> Anyone familiar with both would have no problem. That means that there >> is probably no one on this entire list who would be able to understand >> every single term in the book. I majored in semiotics, but am not a >> musician, so *I'm* shit out of luck. >> >> -- Steven Feldman I don't have the book yet but intend to get it. I have two degrees in English (with a specialty area in literary theory) and I'm a musician (though not an electronic one...I just play that much-maligned instrument, the guitar...), so I hope the book will make at least some sense! I think it's neat that at least someone has tried to do a 'serious' study of TD, in the way one would do a serious study of an author or director or painter or whatever. John Majka flossbac@w... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11802 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Andrew J. Rozsa Sun 3/8/1998 5 KB 11832 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity feldon@p... Mon 3/9/1998 4 KB 11834 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Michael Fox Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 2:33 am Subject: Re: now playing (Tyger) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Richard Bilek Tyger, worst TD release? I always thought, that this is one of the best, well I can be mad Richard ---- from Praha/Prague, Mother Of All Cities From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 6:28 pm Subject: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD's, 'n' stuff... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' >With the pending release of two versions of Macula Transfer (at last!!) has >there been any word on whether or not the missing track from 'Ages' is going >to appear on one of 'em? The Manikin release comes just with the MT stuff, no remixes, no Ages track. MT was released by Metronome (Brain), Ages by Virgin, UK. There you have it. Jens Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11814 Re: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD' Kees Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11822 Re: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD' Rainer Rutka Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 8:03 pm Subject: Vangelis, another great music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco J. Rico' Hello Tadream staff: Just to invite you to visit the Web about the first multimedia CDRom about Vangelis. This is the first time that exits a complete CDRom with all his discography, images, samples, avi's, history and collaborations. http://www.lanzadera.com/reflections Has TD any CDRom? Does anybody want to make one with TD? Greetings Lightnet Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11809 Re: Vangelis, another great music Jim Moore Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 9:38 pm Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 12:26 PM 3/8/1998 -0500, John Majka wrote: >I don't have the book yet but intend to get it. I have two degrees in >English (with a specialty area in literary theory) and I'm a musician >(though not an electronic one...I just play that much-maligned instrument, >the guitar...), so I hope the book will make at least some sense! I think >it's neat that at least someone has tried to do a 'serious' study of TD, in >the way one would do a serious study of an author or director or painter or >whatever. John, Don't let us put you off with remarks about the 'dense-ness' of Stump's work. It is perfectly readable and it remains essential reading for all genuine fans. However, the language could have been more accessible. I expect that most of the readers of this list (and perhaps most TD fans) are college graduates, many with one or more doctorates to their name. So, it is not a matter of education, but rather one of expected style within the present context: music. Personally, when I read a book for fun, I want to have fun. When I have to read a sentence twice to get its gist, it's either because I am sleepy or the author's style obfuscates the essence. Here is an extract from 'Digital Gothic:' 'The thought-policing ideological austerity of critical discourse which rejoiced in the throwaway aspects of pop and rock, and demanded engagement of pop's basically disposable sensibilities with the disposable post-modernism of the age, entirely rejected Tangerine Dream's essentialist concentration on themes of otherness and subjective sense-data.' IMO, it just takes too much effort. As an editor of science articles, I am frequently called upon to evaluate a manuscript's worthiness for publication. I would have rejected Mr. Stump's work with a note in blue-pencil that would have stated: 'Please make this English.' :-( My preferences run along the terse factual lines seen in Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious Semblance' -- for organizational purposes; or along the (sometimes) awkward English prose in Kent Eskildsen's '30 Years of Dreaming' -- for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of a fan's and a musician's tale. Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field ('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). Andrew P.S. In my opinion, Paul Stump's 'Digital Gothic' reads like a thesis or dissertation which, besides imparting knowledge and information, is also meant to impress a Master's or doctoral committee. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11832 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity feldon@p... Mon 3/9/1998 4 KB 11834 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Michael Fox Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 15:38:24 -0600 >Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Andrew J. Rozsa > >Here is an extract from 'Digital Gothic:' > >'The thought-policing ideological austerity of critical discourse which >rejoiced in the throwaway aspects of pop and rock, and demanded engagement >of pop's basically disposable sensibilities with the disposable >post-modernism of the age, entirely rejected Tangerine Dream's essentialist >concentration on themes of otherness and subjective sense-data.' You know, that's not a heck of a lot more obtuse than your run-of- the-mill VILLAGE VOICE article. >IMO, it just takes too much effort. As an editor of science articles, >I am frequently called upon to evaluate a manuscript's worthiness for >publication. I would have rejected Mr. Stump's work with a note in >blue-pencil that would have stated: 'Please make this English.' :-( Now, *that's* interesting! ;) The Section TA's for my semotics classes often complained about the opacity of my papers, and my reply was always that I was merely echoing what I had read: a great example of the saying, 'garbage in, garbage out.' ;) >My preferences run along the terse factual lines seen in Scott Plumer's >'Mysterious Semblance' -- for organizational purposes; or along the >(sometimes) awkward English prose in Kent Eskildsen's '30 Years of >Dreaming' -- for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of a fan's and a >musician's tale. > >Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly >awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field >('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). I wish I could agree. For pure reference and/or research purposes, VOICES IN THE DUNES and Alan Vincent Michaels' THE DREAM LIVES ON rule, but as 'reads,' they're about as exciting as perusing the phone book. 30 YEARS OF DREAMING is, thus far, the most readable and entertaining TD book to see print. >P.S. In my opinion, Paul Stump's 'Digital Gothic' reads like a thesis or >dissertation which, besides imparting knowledge and information, is also >meant to impress a Master's or doctoral committee. Exactly. I would have assumed that this is actually the case except for the fact that Stump is apparently an established rock journalist and hence probably (?) not presently a degree candidate. Maybe he's just trying to impress *himself*? ;) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | ------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 1:51 am Subject: silver scale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... please please please help me, its driving me mad what album is silver scale from and how do i get it. nick Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11894 silver scale Armin Theissen Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11980 Re: silver scale Marko Eriksson Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 1:52 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' >Here is an extract from 'Digital Gothic:' > >'The thought-policing ideological austerity of critical discourse which >rejoiced in the throwaway aspects of pop and rock, and demanded engagement >of pop's basically disposable sensibilities with the disposable >post-modernism of the age, entirely rejected Tangerine Dream's essentialist >concentration on themes of otherness and subjective sense-data.' Well, he Stumped me :-) But I totally agree with what he said ;-) I think I'll give it a look over tonite myself and re-live this literary masterpiece. >Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly >awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field >('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). Me too! When do you think we'll have an update Peter or Matt??? Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11811 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Andrew J. Rozsa Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 1:52 am Subject: Re: Gret Mann idea ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > -- Steven Feldman >------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ >TD Anagrams: Regret Mann idea | I am a nerd regent | Arid German Teen | >------------------------------+--------------------+------------------+ Steven, I'm glad that you have found a temporary distraction here. :-) It actually is funny how the word 'German' came up. Too bad that there was no anagram that stated 'I am a keep nerd' or something along that line ;-) But the 'Mann' thing came close. You know, if you play 'Kiew Mission' backwards, it actually translates back into Ukrainian and tells you were to find the forthcoming The Keep LP. Really, Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 1:46 am Subject: 4/23/?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: spidey tomm@e... (Tom Monaghan) wrote: >Okay, how many others on this list were born on April 23? > >Tom I'm April 24th....close enough? Oscar From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:23 am Subject: logostypes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... hi could anyone tell me what logostypes is,i apologize for my ignorance.is it a bootleg album if so what year is it from.how do i get it. since joining this list(only recently)the amount of information i have been picking up is phenominal and it is great to be able to hear the views of fellow t dreamers.i have most t dream albums, but some of the stuff that gets mentioned on this list i havent heard of, which i find a bit disturbing.hence why im asking about logostypes and in another message about silver scale. also does anyone know where i can get a copy of staagrenze west, there is a bootleg called behind the wall is this the same as staagrenze west. regards nick. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:21 am Subject: RE: Vangelis, another great music ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Has TD any CDRom? Does anybody want to make one with TD? There was the TYRANNY OF BEAUTY CD-ROM that came with the extended 'Catwalk' and 'Quasar'. It contained a discography, two video excepts: 'Stratosfear '95' and 'Melrose', and an interview (which was done in ENglish, but overdubded in Italian!). - jim 'If you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:25 am Subject: TD CD-Rs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek OK, since my crack at humor may not be up to par, I'll provide you with a list of Tangerine Dream CD-Rs that I heard of (this does not mean that I have any of these of course :-) I invite some discussion on these and their content. This may help fuel the upcoming live discussions. I've heard of some more, but I just can't think of them at the moment. Please mention some others if you don't see them here. TANGERINE DREAM CD-Rs A'dam Eve - Melkweg Amsterdam 4/20/97 Absolutely Hypnotized! Alien Air Music Audio Dream Mixes Bergama - 1/31/80 Berlin PDR afternoon Bergamo - 1/31/80 PDR Berlin evening Berlin Werner Seelbinder Hall Feb. 20, 1990 Beyond the Wall - Parts I & IV from 'White Cloths' cassettes Brimingham Nov. 5, 1982 Coefficient of Aural Expansion Part 1 Coefficient of Aural Expansion Part 2 Concentrical Progression Crazy for Dream - Unreleased 'Canyon Dreams' and 'Crazy for You' soundtracks Cyclone in Valencia/Oedipus Tyrannus Danger Live Part 2 - 2/9/76 Brussels & 6/22/76 Berlin The Dream is Not Always the Same Dream Tales Edisons Last Play Off Electric Dreams Empire of Dreams Forgotten Dreams Fractal Realities in a Shattered Plane Fragments Hollywood CA, July 12, 1995 (The Miramar Years) The Keep (The Complete Works of) Logotypes (aka Logos Type) Manchester UK, June 5, 1976 Nachtmusik (Cologne WDR-FM 3/29/86) Nostrasgram - 10/13/80 Brussels Optical Limits Oranges from France - Orange festival 8/16/75 + Sobornost + Catwalk Oranges from France - Seeker of Dreams Parts 1-3, 8/16/75 Outback Voices (Sydney 2/22/82) Overseas Dreams Paris 76 - Paris Palais du Sport, Nov. 22, 1976 + Frankfurt Alte Opera, Nov. 6, 1983 Paris Edge - Olympique, Paris France on 3/31/86, similar to '3 Tier Dream..' Paris France 11/22/76 Set II - Palais du Sport, Nov. 22, 1976 Parisian Dreams (1) Persistence of Vision Pyramid of Dreams Radio Eins Electrobeats Rare Trax 1 Rare Trax 2 Ruby in the Sky - 'Coefficient of Aural Expansion 1 &2' Santa Monica CA, April 26, 1977 Seattle April 21, 1977 Singles Soundtrax Space Trucking Spherical Harmonics Part 2 Spherical Harmonics (1&2) Strange Attractions Strangers in the Night Complete Streethawk Demo (Rough Cuts) Tape Trax 1 Tape Trax 2 Timeless Space Transformation Ventura CA, Nov. 1, 1992 York UK 10/20/75 Zoning 1987 More to come or course! So what it this week's CD-R mystery title? Enjoy! Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 4:39 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 08:52 PM 3/8/1998 -0500, Vic wrote: >>Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly >>awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field >>('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). > >Me too! When do you think we'll have an update Peter or Matt??? > All I heard is some thinly veiled promises. :-) I made a whole lot of noise last year, hoping to put a petard under their butts, but it appears to have been ineffective. :-( I said 'appears' because I still hope we will get a surprise this year. Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 5:40 am Subject: Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: TWeibre361 > > the venue, we had to resort to unconventional means...so we went to a medical > supply house, rented a wheelchair, taped the mics to the arm rests, and had my > buddy sitting in the thing with a blanket covering the deck...fripp, who was > tuning up and checking his decks, graciously requested that our suddenly > wheelchair bound buddy be placed right in front of him...at the end of a nice > 60 minute set, and after fripp takes his bows, my buddy, who was being fed > margaritas via a straw the whole time, starts screaming: 'fripp healed me...i > feel my legs...hallelujah...fripp is god', jumps outta the chair and runs > outta the place...pandemonium ensues of course, and fripp is > flabergasted...the story does not end though...next day, fripp is doing promo > signing at a record store, and i walk in with a j-card and ask him to sign it > for the guy he had healed yesterday, becuz the tape of the gig would be > incomplete without it...needless to say, fripp went ballistic, spewing KILLER story, Tom! KILLER!!!!! That is TOO damn funny! E-Man np: my new black bass From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 8:22 am Subject: Re...reaching your e-music heroes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky Well not to burst Elana's bubble (HAHAHAHA), but she does not have the corner on the market for talking to Chris Franke. As some of you know who get the newsletter from Minette Music, back in the fall of 1996, I wrote an article entitled 'Part of a Dream come True'. It was about how I came to meet Chris Franke for the first time in June of 1996. I went to a Japanese Animation convention called Anime Expo in Anaheim, CA. I knew that Chris had scoerd the new Anime called 'Tenchi Muyo in Love' and I waqnted a domestic release of it instead of spending $45 for the Japanese release. Pioneer Animation who was releasing the video had a booth so I went to ask them when the US release was due out.They told me it would be out in about a month. Then the women behind the booth asked me if I knew that Chris Franke would be there the next day. I told her 'No' and then asked when and where. I was totally blown away. I was actually going to be able to meet one of my Idols. So, the next day came and I was eagerly awaiting the arrival of CF. He came into the room and they showed some video about Tenchi Muyo and then Chris talked to us fro about a half hour or so explaining how he became involved in the project and some history about him. Then came the best part, we got to ask questions. I somewhat hogged the floor when I got the chance to ask a question, which turned into several. After the Q&A session he signed pictures. As luck would have it I had the full length B5 CD with me so I asked him to sign the CD, which he did with no problems at all. I also got a couple of pictures taken with him. After that we talked for about another 30 minutes or so. Chris Franke is one of the easiest accesible celebrities I have encountered. Unlike what Elana would want you to believe that she is SPECIAL because she talks to him from time to time. The following year I was fortunate enough to get the address for the Sonic Images Studio (No Dan did not give it to me)and (I will not give it to you) and when I got to LA for Anime Expo 97 I started the Sonic Images studio quest. I found the studio it was not marked it was just a house. My friends and I were not to sure about just going up and ringing the doorbell, but I told them that the worst that could happen if it was not the studio is that the people would say they are going to call the cops and we would leave. I had found the right place. A tall blonde haired guy wearing a Sonic Images hat came out to the gate and asked if he could help us. I told him I was looking for the Sonic Images Studio,while pointing to his hat I said it looked like I found it. I had brought a copy of one of the pictures from AX96 and the B5 vol II booklet and asked if it would be possible to see Chris. Unfortunately Chris was in Berlin. So I asked if it would be possible to see inside the studio. We were let in and got a mini tour of the studio. Before we left I asked if I could leave the B5 booklet to be signed and mailed back. I was told that would be no problem. Then I was presented with a signed copy of the 1995 issue of Klemainia and the McBain promo that I had been hunting for for almost 2 years. I am now in contact with Sonic Images about once every month or 2 just to keep up with what is going on. I could ask to talk to Chris, but as he is usually busy I just talk to his right hand man. However if I want somethin special I can usually get it. I know of other people who have talked with Chris on the phone, thus proving that if you are cool about it you can talk to him directly. Now you folks in Europe need to tells us about how you have been able to get back stage and meet with TD. THE HIGHLANDER From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 8:43 am Subject: Re: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD's, 'n' stuff... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Kees At 19:28 8-03-98 +0100, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >>Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' >>With the pending release of two versions of Macula Transfer (at last!!) has >>there been any word on whether or not the missing track from 'Ages' is going >>to appear on one of 'em? > >The Manikin release comes just with the MT stuff, no remixes, no Ages track. >MT was released by Metronome (Brain), Ages by Virgin, UK. >There you have it. > >Jens Jens, Last time I spoke to Mario it still wasn't certain if he would release it or if Virgin would. Is it certain now? I see Mario in Germany coming saturday so I will ask hin as well. B.t.w. Ashra - Live in Japan '97 is coming. No further info at this moment. Kees Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11822 Re: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD' Rainer Rutka Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 9:40 am Subject: Voices in the Dunes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mathew Hargreaves Hello Andrew and others, The first version of the book requiered 2.5 years from beginning to final product. That was a ton of work of listing each item then sending Rolf to add certain detail information about items where the information was missing. While a lot of material has been released, the overhaul of the first version needs to be completed before the new material can be added. I have the main listing completed but have not sent it to either co-author until I have time to look it over. I do have a job and other interests other than just this book, and I assume the other authors do too. Keep in mind that as the book is being rewritten the band is still releasing new and old material and all of this has to be included too and that affects the prior structure of the listings. I can tell you the song title listing will be eliminated. I liked the design idea originally but the structure is too space wasting and an index will be added instead. I figure the whole book with ALL of the added new material will be about the same page length. You can kiss courier goodbye as the typeface of choice. As for the comment that Voices is a dry read, well of course it is. It was a reference book only on all of the releases. That was the goal of the book. IT would have been impossible for us or any outside observer to tell any story about TD. We do not know the inner workings of Edgar and company. It would have been speculation on our part. Only the band can write the story. The goal of the book was met and with few errors or missing data at the time. Edgar told me here in Seattle that he did not know about 30% of the material that was listed. I found that impressive. In the end, even a second edition of the book will be the same. A reference volume on the releases of the band's music. Within it will be all of the known releases information. If you want a specific track, or album, or single, the release information will be there. When I entered into joint authorship on the book, I wanted to know what had been released that I did not know about. In the end there was very little. With the web and this listserver, and the fans too, this kind of reference is almost becoming meaningless. The published volume does create a hardcopy version that may save the information. A lot of digital information is never saved and lost, like the radio signals that are beamed into outer space and gone for good. If it is put down into a book, the fans of the future, long after we are all dead, may have one or two surviving copies as references. By then too, most music storage mediums from this time will have rotted. If the future is lucky they might even be able to hear the music we love, but may find it a historical curiosity at best. Anyone know any fans of 1890's pop music. Show your hands. On the other hand, none of the copies of the books may survive time. In time, Tangerine Dream will most likely have faded to a dream. Eventually, All things must pass. I am enjoying the music before I pass, but am leaving the scribblings in a book in homage to the enjoyment their music has brought me. CHEERS...Matt Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 25344 Voices in the Dunes jwerner66@h... Wed 12/13/2000 2 KB 25372 Re: Voices in the Dunes peter.stoeferle@t... Fri 12/15/2000 2 KB 25373 Re: Voices in the Dunes Joel S. Mullen Fri 12/15/2000 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:55 am Subject: Re: Profiles from dreamaholics.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > And I must admit, the new TD stuff is good when I'm driving to my work. > So for now and in the future the new stuff will be played (and maybe > discovered). > Old stuff don't seem to work with me while driving. I loose my attention > with the traffic. > > Marcel Sorry about this...just thought I'd add that I've had DM (either CD 1 or 2) on continual play at work for tha last month or so! Strange because I'd hardly listened to it before then! Colin n.p. Anyone guess? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:51 am Subject: Re: Profiles from dreamaholics.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > And I must admit, the new TD stuff is good when I'm driving to my work. > So for now and in the future the new stuff will be played (and maybe > discovered). > Old stuff don't seem to work with me while driving. I loose my attention > with the traffic. > > Marcel I have a friend who uses DM for that very reason. He's not even a TD fan! Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:48 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > >Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >This CD [Tyger] together with LiveMiles were, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. > > Tyger ? Doh ! It´s the worst TD release so far. Even my Gold CD doesn´t make > it any better. Anyone wanna have it ? > > Jens Yeh! I'll have it! I love this album! Blake has to be one of *the* greatest poets..ever! Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 5:58 pm Subject: D: Der Meteor ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) 'Jim und Pablo und der Meteor' For this one, TD really went back into their archives and collected some of the finest unreleased moments. Pounding sequencers open up this CD and....SORRY, I WAS ONLY DREAMING, I guess this album must have put me to sleep. The reality is actually that is almost NO MUSIC on it at all. In between the dialog we get to hear a few isolated chords and a few twinkly notes here and there, but that's about all. Before listening to it for the first time, I knew that this would be a narrated story or an audio drama for kids. But since it had the name TD on it, I expected to hear at least some background music, similar to watching a TD-scored movie. But there is so little music in this one, I really wonder why they even bothered to put the name Tangerine Dream on it. It would have been more honest to tell us the truth about the origin of the 'music' on this album by crediting 'Jerome's cat taking a short nap on keyboard (wagging tail)' as the composer and performer. If anybody is interested in comments on the story (anybody here has an 8-year old son who speaks German?) let me know and I post some info on that as well. (PS: I only have this on a cassette copy as this has become quite a rarity by now, thanks Mike Jean for making me a copy). Hilmar From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 11:07 am Subject: Re: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >Do other people have this problem? I find it hard to associate > names with > >tracks.I've been listening to Tangerine Dream music for about 7 > years now. > > Definitely! I still don't know the tracks to Le Parc, and I > bought it new! You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for > my book: 'Let's see, that's off of Melrose, no, Lily, no, Destination > Berlin, no. . .' > > I've found that singing the song title to the music helps: 'I'm > walk-ing in Gau-di Park. It is real-ly nice here. . . ' > > Scott Must admit that I'm pathetic at remembering track titles. Not just TD but JMJ, Vangelis, Mike Oldfield..I think there're about the only instrumentalists (ie predominately no vocals!) I listen to. The rest is either classical (easy to remember), Prog rock (easy since most of it is vocals), heavy metal (track titles? What's a track title?), or just plain rock. The only TD I can remember is the stuff I like and so have listened too a few times. Then again I can often say 'Well this is track 5 of Goblins Club', but I couldn't actually tell you what track 5 on Goblins' Club was called without looking at the sleeve notes! I am particuarly bad at gigs. At the last JMJ one I barely got one track right, and at the TD one I was reduced to 'Oh! I recognise that one!' or 'Errmmm, don't know about that one' etc... Oh well....back too the endless grindstone that is fortran programming! Colin n.p. just for a change...Electric Tepee--Hawkwind Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11826 Re: Track Titles Plumer, Scott Mon 3/9/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 11:17 am Subject: Re: Force Majeure & Exit in SBM? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > >Really-From: 'Miguel Farah F.' > > > >have _Force Majeure_ and _exit_ been released in SBM > >ever? [...] Do they exist? > > Oh yes, they do. Especially the 'Exit' SBM is worth its money, > as it sound way better than the normal (German) 'Virgin' release, which > provides nice extra white noise samples all over the tracks. Doh! > > ta ra > > Yense Peach Agreed! The 'Exit' one does exist. Can't comment on the sound quality, don't have the original mix only the complation versions which presumably have been re-mixed anyway. I'd be interested in finding a 'Force Majeure' in SBM, so I'll keep looking.. Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 1:36 pm Subject: Re: Ages missing track was Re: Age, number of CD's, 'n' stuff... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: Kees > >Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > >>Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' > B.t.w. Ashra - Live in Japan '97 is coming. No further info at this moment. Please ! Let me know if it is here ;-). I'm a Ashra-Fan, too ! rainer@k... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 7:48 pm Subject: Logotypes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen >Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... > > hi could anyone tell me what logostypes is,i apologize for my > ignorance.is it a bootleg album if so what year is it from.how do i > get it. > Logotypes is - as far as I know - a rehearsal session. It resembles very much the beginning of Logos, it contains a slightly altered (and IMHO much better) version of Choronzon, and some bits which later appeared on Poland. Its a killer, really! Schmoelling-era at its best. armin Armin Theissen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 20615 Re: Logotypes Antonio Nunes Sat 1/29/2000 2 KB 33991 Logotypes Morgan Feldon Fri 5/17/2002 3 KB 33993 Re: Logotypes Dennis Nigbur Fri 5/17/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 7:48 pm Subject: Silver Scale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen >Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... > > please please please help me, its driving me mad what album is silver > scale from and how do i get it. > nick > > Silver Scale is - slightly 'tangentized' - on the 5th CD of the Box Set 'Tangents'. It was the opener of the 2nd half on the early 80s tour. Unfortunately, the track ends too soon on the Tangents CD. So you may want to get fantapes of 1980/82 as well. armin Armin Theissen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11861 Re: Silver Scale Vic Rek Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 20751 Silver Scale Gustavo Jobim Sun 2/6/2000 1 KB 20755 Re: Silver Scale John Marchington Sun 2/6/2000 2 KB 20759 Re: Silver Scale Heiko Heerßen Mon 2/7/2000 1 KB 20769 Re: Silver Scale Sean Montgomery Mon 2/7/2000 1 KB 20777 Silver Scale James Horecka, AIA Tue 2/8/2000 1 KB 20851 Re: Silver Scale Chris Richards Fri 2/11/2000 1 KB 20924 Silver Scale Frank Thu 2/17/2000 1 KB 36016 Silver Scale Morgan Feldon feldon23 Mon 9/9/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 3:59 pm Subject: Sonic Images Studio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Really-From: Robert Grabowsky > > The following year I was fortunate enough to get the address for the >Sonic Images Studio (No Dan did not give it to me)and (I will not give it >to you) and when I got to LA >for Anime Expo 97 I started the Sonic Images studio quest. >I found the studio it was not marked it was just a house. Is the house a pink red building? Jeffrey Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11874 Re: Sonic Images Studio Robert Grabowsky Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 2:02 pm Subject: RE: Track Titles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' ><< You can imagine my difficulty trying to do setlists for > my book >> >Do we have to hear about YOUR book in every correspondence? I went to the book Yes. >store and didn't see it anywhere. Do you need a distributor or what? Yes. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 2:12 pm Subject: RE: I am a nerd regent & I say *regret* Mann idea, arid german te en! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Hey, I have one more to add, and I think it's the funniest yet: >**A German I'd enter** 'Who is Claudia Schiffer?' Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 2:27 pm Subject: RE: Kitaro Concerts: Seeing vs. Hearing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > Kitaro only comes across as impressive because of the amount of >irregular (i.e. traditional Japanese) instrumentation onstage. Have you I dunno, in his 'Enchanted Evening' video he really rocked on guitar. Of course, the song sounded like it was 'influenced by' Pink Floyd's 'One of These Days.' Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 12:59 pm Subject: Re: silver scale and logotypes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Someone was asking which album Silver Scale comes from. The answer is - it doesn't. Silver Scale appears on Tangents Disk 5 (the unreleased material), which I guess is where you've heard it (whoever you were)? It is a 12 minute version which expands and develops a short piece from the Wavelength OST called Church Theme. This version is only three or four minutes long. Many list members also state that there is an even longer (20 minute?) and better version available on some fan-tapes from the early eighties. The same person (this'll teach me to delete mail) asked about Logotypes. Yes, this is indeed a boot taken from the rehearsal for the concert during the Logos tour. It features music not heard on the official album (from The Keep - Official version and The Soldier, I believe), as well as 'covers' of some familiar tracks. Normal method of finding/posessing such items is to swap with list members. Hope this helps. NP : Porcupine Tree - The Sky Moves Sideways ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:13 am Subject: tape tree info please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ben Ohmart could someone post or email me about the TD tape tree? i had the info once, but can't find it now! thanks. Ben Ohmart findline@m... A new Road play/film! plays, stories, poems, bio: Actpot, a serial mystery play: Actpot, Actpot! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: RE: Availability of MYSTERIOUS SEMBLANCE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >THE DUNES. As for Paul Stump's DIGITAL GOTHIC, that book *was* issued >by a real publisher, but it is small one in the UK and is a real bastard >to find in the USA for a decent price. Actually, to find one at all is difficult. Many bookstores can't get books published outside the US or Canada. Even Amazon.com was no help. Some stores will go to the publisher to get it, but you'd be better off doing that yourself. Also, if I'm not mistaken, I remember seeing a law against importation of books printed overseas. Perhaps I misterpreted it, or it's since been revoked. I hope so. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:19 pm Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > >Here is an extract from 'Digital Gothic:' > >'The thought-policing ideological austerity of critical discourse which >rejoiced in the throwaway aspects of pop and rock, and demanded engagement >of pop's basically disposable sensibilities with the disposable >post-modernism of the age, entirely rejected Tangerine Dream's essentialist >concentration on themes of otherness and subjective sense-data.' HOLY SHIT! Can we say 'rediculous?' What is the point of all this gibberish? When I am explaining computers to people, do you honestly think I use technical terms every other word? Absolutely not! This is changed my desire to get this book... Hrmm... tis a shame that people feel the need to throw extra words into a document to sound more educated. > >IMO, it just takes too much effort. As an editor of science articles, I am >frequently called upon to evaluate a manuscript's worthiness for >publication. I would have rejected Mr. Stump's work with a note in >blue-pencil that would have stated: 'Please make this English.' :-( > >My preferences run along the terse factual lines seen in Scott Plumer's >'Mysterious Semblance' -- for organizational purposes; or along the >(sometimes) awkward English prose in Kent Eskildsen's '30 Years of >Dreaming' -- for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of a fan's and a >musician's tale. > >Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly >awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field >('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). > >Andrew > >P.S. In my opinion, Paul Stump's 'Digital Gothic' reads like a thesis or >dissertation which, besides imparting knowledge and information, is also >meant to impress a Master's or doctoral committee. With certainty, said document was mastered for the sole purpose of eliciting an intellectual orgasm of meanings. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:59 pm Subject: Which Muscians have you met? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' I met Edgar Froese, Paul Haslinger and Ralf Wadephul after the '88 concert in DC. I made the mistake of telling Edgar that I liked the music (hey, the concert was pretty good, lotsa older material). Shoulda told him to play 'Logos' or 'Mojave Plan'... I speak quite often with Michael Garrison, like whenever I place an order from his company... :-) And I think the vocals killed 'Tyger'. Not to write Ms. Williams off totally, as she contributes stunning Clair Torrie-styled vocals (PF 'Great Gig In The Sky') to Eloys' 'The Tides Return Forever'. She is just too monotone and off-key on 'Tyger' to make it an enjoyable listen. Now, if there was an all instrumental version of the CD released.... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Craig Shipley craigs@s... Siemens-Pyramid Information Systems, Inc. 1100 Johnson Ferry Rd. NE Suite 400 Atlanta, Georgia 30342 (404) 845-3404 Corporate Voice Mail (800) 333-5754 x-2023 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11839 Tyger (was Re: Which Muscians have you met?) Gabe Yedid Mon 3/9/1998 3 KB 11845 Re: Which Muscians have you met? TWeibre361 Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11966 Re: Which Muscians have you met? AOutland Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11970 Meeting TD Sean Montgomery Fri 3/13/1998 5 KB 11973 Re: Meeting TD Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 6 KB 12007 Re: Which Muscians have you met? Francisco Salgado C. Sat 3/14/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 3:44 pm Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 03:38 PM 3/8/98 -0600, you wrote: >'The thought-policing ideological austerity of critical discourse which >rejoiced in the throwaway aspects of pop and rock, and demanded engagement >of pop's basically disposable sensibilities with the disposable >post-modernism of the age, entirely rejected Tangerine Dream's essentialist >concentration on themes of otherness and subjective sense-data.' Oh..yeah...got that. Sure makes me wanta run right out and by a TD CD! I agree Andrew--sounds like a thesis to me, too. Wish I'd had a copy when I was helping start the sleep lab some years back! Now I gotta get back to those light article's in 'The Lancet'.;-) Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 5:59 pm Subject: Re: Curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) At 11:03 AM 3/5/98 EST, you wrote: >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >--------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- >Really-From: AslanFan1 > > >My first exposure to TD was the Thief soundtrack, which I liked, but when I >went out and bought Tangram and White Eagle, I was hooked. And yes, despite >what I read on this list, White Eagle is one of my all time faves, maybe for >sentimental reasons. Best concert ever was the 1986 tour in Albuquerque of >Underwater Sunlight Material before it was released. What pisses me off, >though, is that TD released LIVEMILES with the moniker 'The ALbuqerque >Concert' but the music IS NOT from that show. Even the introduction in Spanish >is bogus, I was there and it never happened. I talked to Haslinger once about >it and he confirmed that 'for legal reasons' the music isn't from that show. >Too bad, Haslinger and Froese dualed on electric guitar and it was about the >most intense life performace I've ever seen. Took my Dad! He was the oldest >guy in the audience...he loved it! He ran out and bought Legend the next day! >Saw the 220 Volts show, it was really good but no comparison to 86. All, of >course, in my opinion. > Living in Albuquerque, I was prepared to drive to LA to see my first TD concert. When they annouced that they were coming to the Kiva we bought our tickets right away (4th row center, lush seating). They opened with Pilots of Purple Twilight one of my all time favorites. They played a piece from Legend that was both visually and emotionally beautiful to me. I have never heard it since, but think of it often. I've seen TD three other times in LA and Ventura, none have been as satisfying. I remember watching the lightning strike the volcanic mesas above the Rio Grande before the concert. It was very depressing to hear Livemiles, I could not reconize the music and it did not remind me of my favorite concert. One of the reasons I joined this group was to see if I could find tapes/CDRs of that tour. I'll be 36 in april, my first TD exposure was probably the short pieces the media played before the NEWS/WEATHER/SPORTS/TRAFFIC. My first albums I heard were Atem/Alpha Centuri then Ricochet/Encore on tapes from a friend in college 80/81. The next summer I got Rubycon, Exit and Edgars solos Stuntman and Epsilon. This began my adventurous hobby of evaluating record stores thru out the states and abroad by there TD content. Alway buying anything I didn't have that I could afford. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 3:59 pm Subject: Seeing Harold Budd Live in 1990 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' I greatly enjoyed the stories of Tom and Robert on meeting Robert Fripp and Chris Franke respectively. I am going to tell my first ever occasion (a truly fortunate one) of meeting Harold Budd, whom I considered one of the nicest man to meet :))) That was back in April 1990. Back then I did not habitually read English newspaper. But one day I happened to buy one and noticed a 1.5 X 2.5 inch advert on a forthcoming Harold Budd concert in Hong Kong. Meanwhile I never heard any music of him but did know that he played ambient music along with Brian Eno. Knowing that the concert would take place in the next three days, I rushed to get a ticket, which showed a front number 0015! Obviously with such little promotion very few people learnt about this concert. The venue is the famous Convention and Exhibition Centre which periodically holds trade fairs and other exhibitions (its new building was where the Hong Kong hand-over ceremony took place). It was the smallest audience I have ever seen in my life - below 100. Premonition told me that it would be a very good show. The background of the stage was sea water blue in colour. The only instrument was a grand piano with a small sequencer somewhere near the keys. The whole evening was filled with lovely music of light piano sounds amidst a very thick bass synth sound which was very atmospheric. The gig went only halfway and the whole audience was LYING over the seats. It was great lying there, feeling that the body was drifting on such relaxing and lovely music (Remark: one of the great pieces from that time, the 'White Arcade' era, turned up on the Agua album as 'Color', which is my all time favourite). After the concert I was so turned on by the music, that I begged to go backstage to see the man. The promoter asked, and after about 10 minutes I went with 2 other guys (both were musicians, one was also a DJ) to see Harold Budd. I told him that I did not own any album of him, but the concert totally impressed me. He was smiling and thanked me. I was certain that he could see the 'high' I experienced, judging from my facial expression and enthusiasm. He was also very willing to sign on my just-purchased 'White Arcade' and 'The Serpent/Abandoned Cities'. It was also interesting that when he did the autographs he put down the date in US time instead of HK time. The only pity was that I lost the contact number of the photographer who took a photo for Harold and me, so I might never get that photo. Still the occasion remained very vivid and pleasant in my memory, because it was the first time I met a great e-musician and the concert still remains today THE BEST CONCERT I have ever been to. More memorable about this, was the concert also took place one day before my Lunar Year birthday, and I would never predict to have my birthday celebrated again at a e-music concert, and it was some 7 years after, at a TD concert... Jeffrey np: Harold Budd 'Agua' P.S. In 1994 I also met Jean Michel Jarre and Philip Glass when they played here. JMJ was surprised by my Concerts In China Chinese pressing LP. He was thinking himself very much as a celebrity (I still remember a photo of him with Arafat), and he used such a lot of perfume. Philip Glass was a very gentle man but wasn't that nice to talk to. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 9:05 pm Subject: Famous e-artists I've met ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian M. Frick' I met Jean Michel Jarre. He was the nicest man I've ever met, in terms of famous people. He was very friendly, although his side-kick was a complete er, *jerk* (with 5 letters beginning with a B). :-) I have a photo for proof :-) Anyway, I found him in Toronto last summer, and I chased him down until I could get his autograph. Oh boy, did I ever chase him down. Spent $200 or something darn close to that to get it! :-) It was fun while it lasted :-) -- Brian Frick Homepage: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj Equinoxe: http://www.westol.com/~frickblj/jarrefanclub Taxation = Slavery From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:04 pm Subject: RE: Availability of DIGITAL GOTHIC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Roger Smith' >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' As for Paul Stump's DIGITAL GOTHIC, that book *was* >issued by a real publisher, but it is small one in the UK and is a >real bastard to find in the USA for a decent price. > > Actually, to find one at all is difficult. Archie Patterson at Eurock (http://www.eurock.com) is advertising the book Digital Gothic for $18. Roger ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:35 pm Subject: Tyger (was Re: Which Muscians have you met?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Gabe Yedid On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > And I think the vocals killed 'Tyger'. Not to write Ms. Williams off > totally, as she contributes stunning Clair Torrie-styled vocals (PF 'Great > Gig In The Sky') to Eloys' 'The Tides Return Forever'. She is just too > monotone and off-key on 'Tyger' to make it an enjoyable listen. Now, if > there was an all instrumental version of the CD released.... I disagree. I've heard the instrumental 'Tyger' on _20th Century Serenades_, and IMO it simply doesn't work as an instrumental song--few strophically structured songs do. Curiously, 'Smile' comes off much better as an instrumental, although the vocals still do ultimately make the song. I find myself utterly unable to warm to 'London' or 'Alchemy of the Heart'. Now, next time TD plays Montreal, let's see if they can get Celine Dion to sing 'Tyger', 'Smile', and 'Loved by the sun', for versions that will be....well...at least well-sung ;). > Craig Shipley craigs@s... Gabe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 10:51 pm Subject: Sorry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA I am very sorry for starting the Tyger thread. As far as E-Musicians I've met...Does Keith Emerson qualify? I talked with Edgar, Jerome, Linda and Zlatko after the Ventura show. I have talked with Fripp and Belew. I am much more impressed with their music, than their conversation. Sometimes meeting your musical heroes just doesn't work out like you had imagined. But then there was the time I had lunch with Steve Howe and Rick Wakeman, man oh man. What a afternon that was...David n.p. Steve Howe...Turbulence Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11873 Re: Sorry Michael Fox Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:04:04 PST >Subject: RE: Availability of DIGITAL GOTHIC >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Roger Smith > >Archie Patterson at Eurock (http://www.eurock.com) is advertising the >book Digital Gothic for $18. When I sent for my copy of The Nightcrawlers' TRAVELING BACKWARDS CD, Archie sent me a copy of EUROCK's December catalog. Then, he sent me a copy of EUROCK's January catalog, but he sent it in February, so that when I wanted to order five items from the catalogue's close-out and remainder listings, three items were gone. I bitched about this. I also bitched about not being able to send him money in advance for CDs that were pending arrival--something I had done with Minnette Music *twice* (one time was for DREAM ROOTS and the Italian magazine with 'Quasar' and the fifteen-minute version of 'Catwalk'). I also bitched about the fact that it costs about $8 postage for just two f**king CDs ($2 for postage, $4 for packaging and handling, and $2 for insurance, fer chrissakes). I told him to skip the insurance and paid $6 postage for the two CDs I wound up getting from him, adding my own proviso--that he ship the CDs in a box rather than a f**king padded mailer (the cause of more jewels cases than I can name). He didn't. Laughing Boy did not comply, even though one of the items did not come in jewel case but a fragile cardboard printed sleeve--which, of course, came bent. :( What a limp-dick! I just sent a copy of Eno's MUSIC FOR THE WHITE CUBE to someone--in a box, with a shitload of bubblewrap without insurance-- for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: I send for two CDs from Eurock, at $10 apiece, and it costs me $26, but I send out one myself in an 8.5 x 11 box filled with bubblewrap and it comes to only $3??? And now you say that EUROCK has DIGITAL GOTHIC? I wish Laughing Boy had mentioned that to me before I put my order in. And yet, since the (import) CD with the cardboard printed sleeve came bent, I wouldn't count on his packaging sent-for items any better in the case of an (import) book. What's weird is that EUROCK has been around for about 15 years-- and Ranjit sure as shootin' doesn't charge out the caboose to process one of *his* orders--so why the nasty prices? :( -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11850 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? DJS Tue 3/10/1998 6 KB 11851 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? DAVENTURA Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11852 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? DJS Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11854 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11862 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Vic Rek Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11867 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? DJS Tue 3/10/1998 4 KB 11871 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Vic Rek Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11903 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11972 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Dec 31, 1969 10:59 pm Subject: Voices in the dunes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > At 08:52 PM 3/8/1998 -0500, Vic wrote: > > > > Having said all this, I hasten to add that I am (of course!) eagerly > > > awaiting an updated version of the acknowledged standard for in the field > > > ('Voices In The Dunes' by Messrs. Sonnemann, Stoeferle, and Hargreaves). > > > > Me too! When do you think we'll have an update Peter or Matt??? > > > > All I heard is some thinly veiled promises. :-) I made a whole lot of noise > last year, hoping to put a petard under their butts, but it appears to have > been ineffective. :-( > Some people even believed it made more sense not only to make noise but also to insult those who they expect to write a book for their favourite band. However, we have well heard the noise but we ignore the insults. And we have not been hurt by the petard, so we still are able to work. > I said 'appears' because I still hope we will get a surprise this year. You never know... But it would not make sense to publish a discography before the 25 (or more) TDI Music CDs that have been announced for 1998 in a 'Dream Collector' interview will be available. Otherwise, all those who would buy the book would feel like making noise again in an update discussion only a few months later... ;-) Be sure we will announce in time when the new discography will be released. 'nuff said? Peter Stoeferle ('Voices...' co-author) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 12:23 am Subject: Re: SEX ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-06 07:55:29 EST, you write: << any female dream fans out there???? Steve >> Yes. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 00:22 +0100 >Subject: Re: Voices in the dunes >To: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Peter.Stoeferle@t... (Peter Stoeferle) > [re the eventual updated edition of VOICES IN THE DUNES, Peter said:] >[. . . ] it would not make sense to publish a discography before the 25 >(or more) TDI Music CDs that have been announced for 1998 in a 'Dream >Collector' interview will be available. Otherwise, all those who would >buy the book would feel like making noise again in an update discussion >only a few months later... ;-) Yeah, and besides--I haven't snagged that copy of THE 1984 KEEP LP yet. I fully plan on having a picture of myself holding this so-called nonexistent LP in my hands as part of the Second Edition of VOICES IN THE DUNES. It'll be called VOICES IN MY HEAD. :) Hee hee! ;) :) But seriously, this gives me about a year--if the original VOICES crew plans on issuing their second ed. soon after the dust from the barrage of 25 TD(I) CDs settles--to latch onto a copy of THE KEEP if I want to see my mug in print in the TD Bible. ;) (And yes, I will tell the powers that be that I won't give them access to the cover and label imagery from the album *unless* they run a picture of me. I think I've withstood enough abuse re being on drugs, deluded, wrong, dreaming, etc. re this elusive record to warrant seeing myself in print once I get the doggone elpee once and for all.) Last time, I discovered that there were two different pressings of RISKY BUSINESS (*now* I know that there are actually *three*--even though there's no difference between the first two). Granted, there are others who knew, but I was the only one to alert the writers of VOICES before it went to print). I've got to top myself, now, and finding that dadblasted KEEP 'er another oughta do right nicely! Yessirree bob! ;) Molasar's Hashmark Undies + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11847 Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) DAVENTURA Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11864 Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) Plumer, Scott Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11872 Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) Michael Fox Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11878 Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) DAVENTURA Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:33 am Subject: Re: Which Muscians have you met? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-09 15:35:57 EST, you write: << I met Edgar Froese, Paul Haslinger and Ralf Wadephul after the '88 concert in DC. >> you were at the kennedy center? so was i....great tape btw... tom w np: dc 88 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Mar 9, 1998 6:13 pm Subject: Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > Really-From: TWeibre361 > > > > the venue, we had to resort to unconventional means...so we went to a > medical > > supply house, rented a wheelchair, taped the mics to the arm rests, and > had my > > buddy sitting in the thing with a blanket covering the deck...fripp, who > was > > tuning up and checking his decks, graciously requested that our suddenly > > wheelchair bound buddy be placed right in front of him...at the end of a > nice > > 60 minute set, and after fripp takes his bows, my buddy, who was being > fed > > margaritas via a straw the whole time, starts screaming: 'fripp healed > me...i > > feel my legs...hallelujah...fripp is god', jumps outta the chair and > runs > > outta the place...pandemonium ensues of course, and fripp is > > flabergasted...the story does not end though...next day, fripp is doing > promo > > signing at a record store, and i walk in with a j-card and ask him to > sign it > > for the guy he had healed yesterday, becuz the tape of the gig would be > > incomplete without it...needless to say, fripp went ballistic, spewing Heh heh, man Tom...you have some heeelarious tales. Either you're an excellent storyteller or your life needs a biography heh heh. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 3:53 am Subject: Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA Steve, It DOES exist. I am absolutely positive of this fact. Please don't ask me how I know this, I won't tell you. 'Keep' looking, you'll find it. Would you like me to see if I can find another copy for YOU? Is there a finders fee? Lars, if you have time,(I know you're busy) Could you give me your private email. I need to get a tape of the Ventura Show. I already bought the blanks, just don't know where to send them. Thanks Dell, well it wasn't as exciting as Ellen coming out, but personally I'm glad that you're here and I don't much care that you're feline(Catbird!!). To Everyone else, after listening to ALL my Tangerine Dream in the last 4 days, I must reiterate that IMHO The Schmoelling Era was by far best. I like something on every album from each era, but I like more when Johannes was a member. Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...David n.p. Lily On The Beach...Forgot how enjoyable this is.... Music is harmony, harmony is perfection, perfection is our dream, and our dream is heaven. --Amiel n.p. Lily On The Beach...Forgot how enjoyable this is.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 3:57 am Subject: Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-09 21:54:05 EST, you write: << Either you're an excellent storyteller or your life needs a biography >> I'm being sued for writing an unauthorized autobiography... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 4:02 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Phil PDX In a message dated 98-03-08 16:40:24 EST, you write: << My preferences run along the terse factual lines seen in Scott Plumer's 'Mysterious Semblance' -- for organizational purposes; or along the (sometimes) awkward English prose in Kent Eskildsen's '30 Years of Dreaming' -- for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of a fan's and a musician's tale. >> How does one get a copy of this? I marginally enjoyed DG, but a more readable TD account would certainly be welcome. Phil Phil Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11853 Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity Andrew J. Rozsa Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 5:26 am Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:04:04 PST > >Subject: RE: Availability of DIGITAL GOTHIC > >From: tadream mailing list > >Really-From: Roger Smith > > > >Archie Patterson at Eurock (http://www.eurock.com) is advertising the > >book Digital Gothic for $18. > > When I sent for my copy of The Nightcrawlers' TRAVELING BACKWARDS > CD, Archie sent me a copy of EUROCK's December catalog. Then, he sent > me a copy of EUROCK's January catalog, but he sent it in February, so > that when I wanted to order five items from the catalogue's close-out > and remainder listings, three items were gone. I bitched about this. > I also bitched about not being able to send him money in advance > for CDs that were pending arrival--something I had done with Minnette > Music *twice* (one time was for DREAM ROOTS and the Italian magazine > with 'Quasar' and the fifteen-minute version of 'Catwalk'). > I also bitched about the fact that it costs about $8 postage for > just two f**king CDs ($2 for postage, $4 for packaging and handling, > and $2 for insurance, fer chrissakes). > I told him to skip the insurance and paid $6 postage for the two > CDs I wound up getting from him, adding my own proviso--that he ship > the CDs in a box rather than a f**king padded mailer (the cause of more > jewels cases than I can name). He didn't. Laughing Boy did not comply, > even though one of the items did not come in jewel case but a fragile > cardboard printed sleeve--which, of course, came bent. :( What a > limp-dick! I just sent a copy of Eno's MUSIC FOR THE WHITE CUBE to > someone--in a box, with a shitload of bubblewrap without insurance-- > for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: > I send for two CDs from Eurock, at $10 apiece, and it costs me $26, > but I send out one myself in an 8.5 x 11 box filled with bubblewrap > and it comes to only $3??? > And now you say that EUROCK has DIGITAL GOTHIC? I wish Laughing > Boy had mentioned that to me before I put my order in. And yet, since > the (import) CD with the cardboard printed sleeve came bent, I wouldn't > count on his packaging sent-for items any better in the case of an > (import) book. > What's weird is that EUROCK has been around for about 15 years-- > and Ranjit sure as shootin' doesn't charge out the caboose to process > one of *his* orders--so why the nasty prices? :( > > -- Steven Feldman > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + > | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | > + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + I agree..Eurock is NOT the way to order CD's. I remember a few years ago I sent him money for two Shreeve CD's & he didn't have one of them. So, he sends me the CD & a credit. Well, I called him and said..'you didn't have the CD I ordered, you cashed my check...now I want my money back.' He told me he couldn't give me my money back..EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T EVEN SEND ME THE CD!' So, basically, after long minutes of arguing, I told him to send me my money or I'd file for mail fraud. Needless to say, I got my money back that week. He's a hippy who doesn't have a clue as to what people want or need. I'd avoid him like you'd avoid a stayover at Elana's....but...that's just my opinion based on personal experiences. ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 5:10 am Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-09 23:26:29 EST, you write: << I'd avoid him like you'd avoid a stayover at Elana's >> Sounds like a great gal, when can I meet her....? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 6:42 am Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > In a message dated 98-03-09 23:26:29 EST, you write: > > << I'd avoid him like you'd avoid a stayover at > Elana's >> > > Sounds like a great gal, when can I meet her....? Actually, I hear she's looking for a roomate for the Huizen concert in the Netherlands! Perhaps it's not too late for you to go! ;-) Regards, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 6:53 am Subject: Re: The Reason for DIGITAL GOTHIC's Opacity ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 11:02 PM 3/9/1998 EST, Phil wrote: ><< My preferences run along the terse factual lines seen in Scott Plumer's > 'Mysterious Semblance' -- for organizational purposes; or along the > (sometimes) awkward English prose in Kent Eskildsen's '30 Years of > Dreaming' -- for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of a fan's and a > musician's tale. >> > >How does one get a copy of this? I marginally enjoyed DG, but a more readable >TD account would certainly be welcome. > Which? OK...here are both Kent ('30 Years...'): Scott ('Mysterious...'): E-mail them both or either. They will happy to oblige, I am sure. Enjoy, Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 7:02 am Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > Really-From: DAVENTURA > > > > << I'd avoid him like you'd avoid a stayover at > > Elana's >> > > > > Sounds like a great gal, when can I meet her....? > > Actually, I hear she's looking for a roomate for the Huizen concert in > the Netherlands! Perhaps it's not too late for you to go! ;-) > > Dano You can even catch Cheech 'n' Chong in Amsterdam...oops, I'm in the wrong decade :-) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 7:29 am Subject: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 When I lived in LA, I met Paul Haslinger at a computer trade show. He was extremely friendly and I asked hima few questions about LiveMiles. He acted interested in what I did for a living and seemed very approachable. However, I saw in Tower a couple months later and his wife (I think) was not at all interested in talking with a fan, so I left them alone. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11906 Re: Name Dropping Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11920 Re: Name Dropping DJS Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11926 Re: Name Dropping Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11956 Re: Name Dropping Michael Fox Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11959 Re: Name Dropping Elias Granillo, Jr. Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 9:26 am Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda At the risk of being thwapped off the GoldTri list myself, I believe Elana's interview with Christopher Franke is a complete and utter HOAX. Here's why: 1. Why would a mega-star like C.F. bother keeping in touch with a no one like Elana? 2. If he hadn't called in a year, why would he call once, allow Elana to poll her pals on the GT list, and then call back and have time to answer *all* of the questions? 3. The timing is just TOO convenient since I'm sure Elana feels left out of all the hoopla over the GT sampler CD and a lot of other good ideas being generated on the list. 4. Weren't all the answers from Chris just *exactly* what (Elana thinks) we would want to hear? 5. The whole 'interview' was paraphrased, not directly quoted. 6. Was there one tidbit of *real* news in there? Something that you could say was really distinctly C.F. and not common knowledge? 7. The phone calls were right after noon on Saturday and then Sunday (PST). Is that a likely time for an artist who can obviously keep his own schedule and most likely works pretty late hours being in the entertainment industry in L.A.? 8. If Chris and Elana are such good buddies why wouldn't they communicate by e-mail all the time anyway? I haven't seen Elana's interview with C.F back in 1991 since it does not appear in the GT archives as do her interviews with Larry Fast and Mark Dwane (her hero and heartthrob, yuck!). But has Chris called her back annually every year? I think NOT. I think Elana just feels left out and is lost in the dust of some very witty and talented company on her very own little mailing list. Sorry Elana, but I just call 'em like I see 'em!! If this is not right I challenge anyone to make an argument to the contrary. BTW, Dano... I'm in O.C. in a couple of weeks and I'm gonna stop by SuperCollector and pick up that Keep LP you've been saving for me, heh heh heh. :-) Regards, Mark Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11859 Re: Franke Interview Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Tue 3/10/1998 9 KB 11866 Re: Franke Interview TWeibre361 Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11869 Re: Franke Interview DJS Tue 3/10/1998 5 KB 11893 Re: Franke Interview Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/12/1998 4 KB 11870 Re: Franke Interview SRiser3600 Tue 3/10/1998 2 KB 11914 Re: Franke Interview DJS Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11929 Re: Franke Interview Todd W Olson Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB 11930 Re: Franke Interview David Datta Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:43 am Subject: Re: Curious ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Steve_Whiteley@N... (Steve Whiteley) > > > I'll be 36 in april, my first TD exposure was probably the short pieces the Not the 23rd by any chance? :-))) Colin n.p. Dream Theatre--Images and Words Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 15135 Curious Greg Tue 6/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:52 am Subject: SBM and DQC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles Hi all, Just a quick question fore all you technical people out there.. What is the difference between the SBM re-mixes of say Exit and Green Desert, and the DQC re-mixes of Live Miles? I know what SBM stands for but what about DQC? Was listening to the SBM versions of Green Desert and Exit last night and must say they sound a lot better than the Tangents versions, though I prefer the Mojave Plane intro on tangents to the original! Also listened to the DQC version of Live Miles..this album simply rocks!!! Colin n.p. Would play Live Miles but my work system can't handle the bass! :-( Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11927 Re: SBM and DQC Francisco Salgado C. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:51 am Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: Mark Fonda > >At the risk of being thwapped off the GoldTri list myself, I believe >Elana's interview with Christopher Franke is a complete and utter HOAX. >Here's why: No-one but CF and Elana know the exact facts of this matter, but I think this is way out of line. I have no particular wish to sound like I'm defending Elana, but I guess I will. You'll probably spot that a lot of my arguments are based on the premise that she has previously told the truth. If you don't believe that then obviously you'll never be convinced. >1. Why would a mega-star like C.F. bother keeping in touch with a no one >like Elana? Why wouldn't he? As editor/contributor to Electronic Dreams back in the early 90s, I believe she did interview CF on a number of occassions and, from what she has said, built a friendship/relationship with him. Are all of your friends nobodies like you Mark? >2. If he hadn't called in a year, why would he call once, allow Elana to >poll her pals on the GT list, and then call back and have time to answer >*all* of the questions? I think you'll find, if you actually remember correctly, that CF left a message on her answer-machine telling her he would call again the next day. Thus Elana was able to alert GoldTri-ers and gather a very few queries before he called back. >3. The timing is just TOO convenient since I'm sure Elana feels left out >of all the hoopla over the GT sampler CD and a lot of other good ideas >being generated on the list. Elana has her own GoldTri project going at present (the T-Shirts) and getting organised for going to Huizen. She was also due to contribute to the CD (both music and literature) but missed on both counts for reasons only she knows. Given that she's busy with her own plans and _may_ be feeling a little embarressed or annoyed at missing the submission dates for the CD, I doubt she'd be looking for this type of attention deliberately. >4. Weren't all the answers from Chris just *exactly* what (Elana thinks) >we would want to hear? I don't know, were they? That could be for many reasons : 1) she made them up (as you claim), 2) they are what CF thinks we would expect to hear, 3) they are CF's real and honest answers. >5. The whole 'interview' was paraphrased, not directly quoted. Ehm, when did this turn into an interview? Didn't he just call for a chat? And she asked a few questions (informally) and gave us the informal replies. Remind me never to talk to you on the phone if my words are going to be reported back to the list ver batim. If CF and Elana are friends, I guess that divulging information passed on in good faith would be the quickest way to lose that friendship. >6. Was there one tidbit of *real* news in there? Something that you >could say was really distinctly C.F. and not common knowledge? I'm not a fan of CF, so don't pay much attention to the various bits of news about him. I'd bow to your superior knowledge in this area if I thought you weren't already biased. >7. The phone calls were right after noon on Saturday and then Sunday >(PST). Is that a likely time for an artist who can obviously keep his >own schedule and most likely works pretty late hours being in the >entertainment industry in L.A.? Your friends must love you! Finish work late one night, go out for a couple of pints and then call them up at 2 in the morning for a chat? Or complain when they're not in at 2 in the afternoon on a Wednesday (when they're working)? What time should he have called to fit in with your pre-conceived notion of showbiz LA style? >8. If Chris and Elana are such good buddies why wouldn't they >communicate by e-mail all the time anyway? Well, as you say above, he's a very busy guy in LA. Where would he find the time to e-mail someone? Has he got a computer? When you send mail to 'his' address at Sonic Images, does he actually read it and respond or does his personal assistant do it? >I haven't seen Elana's interview with C.F back in 1991 since it does not >appear in the GT archives as do her interviews with Larry Fast and Mark >Dwane (her hero and heartthrob, yuck!). But has Chris called her back >annually every year? I think NOT. I think Elana just feels left out >and is lost in the dust of some very witty and talented company on her >very own little mailing list. Sorry Elana, but I just call 'em like I >see 'em!! If this is not right I challenge anyone to make an argument >to the contrary. That's a hell of a challenge there Mark. Short of CF himself coming on-line and saying 'Jah, I did call her', you win. Of course, with the air of scepticism you show, even that wouldn't be enough. How would we know it was him and not an imposter? So, you want to be introduced to him personally and ask him yourself? Remember to report the 'interview' exactly! Now, let me qualify, or expand on, all of the above. Dano called it right the other day regarding the availability of musicians, and Elana's apparent short-sightedness (?) in this area. Even in today's postings (which Dano may forward to this list) she perpetuates the myth of being the only fan CF talks to. But on the other side of the coin, there have been lots of 'oohs' and 'aahs', 'thanks very muches' and 'we're not worthy' from list members too, which only encourages such thinking. I am not friends with anyone famous (yet - Grant Middleton's my best hope). I have communicated with many musicians at differing levels of fame : I have stuck a CD under Edgar's nose and said 'Sign this!'; I have e-mailed Paul Nagle, David Hughes (T-Bass UK) and John Christian (AirSculpture); I know that people like Mark Shreeve are contactable on the net and that people like Eric Snelders and Kees Aerts participate on the GoldTri list. It has taken me a long time to realise that these people are not gods from another world but simply normal people who have succeeded (to varying degrees) at their chosen past-time or profession. I wholeheartedly agree with (what I see as) Dano's underlying message to his previous post : don't be afraid or in awe of these guys. You can talk to them like normal people and if they don't respond cordially then that is their problem and not yours. But can we leave the personal attacks out of this? Dano was harshly dealt with on GoldTri, so I can sympathise with his need to lash out, but it doesn't achieve anything. Why Mark feels the need to wade in with his size twelves is anyone's guess. Are you feeling as insecure and lost as you claim Elana is, Mark? Looking for some attention? I suppose I've fallen into your trap, eh? NP : Is there anything out there? - Andy Pickford's 4QNRX ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 1:56 pm Subject: Re: Age poll ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:44:18 GMT tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) > > Well here we go again: Age 32, first intro to TD at age 14 in 1979, by > no other album than: CYCLONE! TD was my dad's Cyclone LP when I was having a look through his record collection. After that, I went on to buy Lily on the Beach, Melrose (it might be for sentimental reasons, but I still prefer the former to the latter by a mile - IMO, the musical styles are very similar, and Lily sounds somewhat fresher), Tangram and Logos...and after these great albums, there was no stopping me. I've now completed my collection of studio releases and intend to move on to a focussed ST/bootleg collection effort, as soon as I can afford it. By the way, I'm 22, and I found it surprising that most of the people on this list seem to be in their 30s or 40s...I would have expected a lower average age than that. I think it's excellent to have such a wide age range on the list, as it allows for 'historical' (excuse the expression) threads otherwise impossible. Keep up the good work, Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:04 pm Subject: Re: Silver Scale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Armin Theissen > Silver Scale is - slightly 'tangentized' - on the 5th CD of the > Box Set 'Tangents'. > It was the opener of the 2nd half on the early 80s tour. Unfortunately, > the track ends too soon on the Tangents CD. So you may want to get > fantapes of 1980/82 as well. This is an excellent track (classic TD I would say) found on many live tapes and CD-Rs during this period. Since this track wasn't officially released until Tangents, then I'd like to know what this track was called before the title was announced, or was it off an earlier concert set list or something? Vic NP: Santa Monica Nov. 22, 1980 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 1:49 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Steven Feldman [...] of bubblewrap without insurance-- > for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: > I send for two CDs from Eurock, at $10 apiece, and it costs me $26, > but I send out one myself in an 8.5 x 11 box filled with bubblewrap > and it comes to only $3??? You guys need to relax. I deal with Eurock on a sporatic basis, maybe once or twice a year. I get prompt service. But I have one secret about the postage. I call him up, reserve the items, never fill out his order form (where it tells you how to calculate the postage), and then I enclose the postage I deem appropriate for the order. Last time I ordered 2 CDs, threw in $3 for postage and in a week I had my CDs without a complaint. BTW, I picked up 2 EM imports at $10 each in one of his sales that normally go for 12-13 pounds each. Maybe I just got lucky? But then again, who said life's fair :-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:32 pm Subject: Re: Which E-music musicans have YOU met personally? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-09 21:54:05 EST, you write: << Heh heh, man Tom...you have some heeelarious tales. Either you're an excellent storyteller or your life needs a biography heh heh. >> i couldnt make up this stuff if i wanted to...theres witness to all...if fact, on the tape, u can here the spokes turning as we wheel the bastard right in front of fripp...it was a trip... tom w np: ur fav = silence III (fax) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:49 pm Subject: RE: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > Last time, I discovered that there were two different pressings of >RISKY BUSINESS (*now* I know that there are actually *three*--even Speaking of which, how about all those different versions of 'Love on a Real Train'? AHHH! Stop throwing stuff at me!!! :-) Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 9:45 am Subject: Force Majeure ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ben Ohmart Just thought you all might like to know that someone posted this album on the mp3 group. Whether you agree with posting there or not, at least it's there, and now you know where to find it! Ben Ohmart From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 3:08 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-10 04:30:16 EST, you write: << At the risk of being thwapped off the GoldTri list myself, I believe Elana's interview with Christopher Franke is a complete and utter HOAX. Here's why: >> ok...that does it...how do i subscribe to goldtri? tom w np: the ruts = demolition dancing From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 6:55 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > [...] of bubblewrap without insurance-- > > for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: > > I send for two CDs from Eurock, at $10 apiece, and it costs me $26, > > but I send out one myself in an 8.5 x 11 box filled with bubblewrap > > and it comes to only $3??? > > You guys need to relax. I deal with Eurock on a sporatic basis, maybe > once or twice a year. I get prompt service. But I have one secret > about the postage. I call him up, reserve the items, never fill out his > order form (where it tells you how to calculate the postage), and then I > enclose the postage I deem appropriate for the order. Last time I > ordered 2 CDs, threw in $3 for postage and in a week I had my CDs > without a complaint. BTW, I picked up 2 EM imports at $10 each in one > of his sales that normally go for 12-13 pounds each. Maybe I just got > lucky? But then again, who said life's fair :-) > > Vic Well Vic, you probably ordered something he loves to listen to so he treated you with favortism. What did you order? Klaumtrang's 'knee deep in sonic wallpaper'? hehehe ;-) Archie's just a pain in the ass to deal with...in fact...most e-music mail order places usually are. If I need anything anymore..I just get one of my UK buddies to get it for me. Regards, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 7:36 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Oh man, I'm gonna put on my Escape From NY soundtrack for this one.... > Really-From: Mark Fonda > > At the risk of being thwapped off the GoldTri list myself, Heh, Hey man, I got launched for some little itsy bitsy joke about Elana....If you don't get put out then it was obviously something personal to Elana to get me outta there heh heh. I believe > Elana's interview with Christopher Franke is a complete and utter HOAX. > Here's why: (((lots of reasons cut...whew))) Well, I do know for a fact that she does keep in touch with Franke on an irregular basis, but that doesn't make them chums. I don't dispute that they talk, frequently or infrequently. I'm only disgusted when fans or otherwise get up on some pillar & smile as wide as they can because they happen to know something or someone they 'think' no one else knows. Okay..true example here. Leonardo Decaprio came up to our table at the Shrine show (a monthly comic/anime convention) in LA a couple weeks ago asking about Star Wars stuff. He's coming down to the store after hours to buy a sh%$load of Star Wars stuff. That doesn't mean I'm gonna tell everyone that I'm his buddy or that he's gonna give me all the inside info on Titanic...or James's Cameron's personal habits (does he comb his beard or shave it with one of those Don Johnson shavers??). I guess I was just put off by the tactless 'in your face' bragging and smuggness exuding from her because she somewhat knows Franke. She's been doing that for years & it just plain cramps. Heck, I bet Franke would recall the name Bob Grabowsky before Elana. Heh heh heh. I can see it now: 'Mr Franke, Bob Grabowsky is here to see you'. 'Oh yes, send him in. He's the nice highlanderish fellow I talked to at that animation show a few years back. Bring me some promos for me to sign for him.' Or: 'Mr Franke, that Elana is here to see you.' 'Schwinginguin! Tell her I'm in Berlin!' 'Yes, H'oerberst.' > I haven't seen Elana's interview with C.F back in 1991 since it does not > appear in the GT archives as do her interviews with Larry Fast and Mark > Dwane (her hero and heartthrob, yuck!). Anyone in the electronic music industry who gives Elana attention is a hearthrob heh. > BTW, Dano... I'm in O.C. in a couple of weeks and I'm gonna stop by > SuperCollector and pick up that Keep LP you've been saving for me, heh > heh heh. :-) > > Regards, > Mark Hey, this may be incorrect info...but I heard you were flying to Huizen with Elana. Is that true? If so, bring an umbrella for all the flying fish coming your way when you get on the plane. I already gave the Keep LP to Eli but you can go to Franke's studio with me & we'll all go to lunch with Franke & Haslinger (who lives nearby as well). Just don't talk about Future Primitive...please? Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11879 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) DAVENTURA Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB 11880 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) John M. Poer Tue 3/10/1998 5 KB 11882 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) John M. Poer Tue 3/10/1998 5 KB 11886 Address Change - AOL Sucks (NO TD) Brian E. Kirby Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11885 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) Greg Heil Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11892 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11908 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 7:53 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Now, let me qualify, or expand on, all of the above. Dano called it right the > other day regarding the availability of musicians, and Elana's apparent > short-sightedness (?) in this area. Even in today's postings (which Dano may > forward to this list) I can't forward anything...I've been bounced from the Goldtri list, remember? I was bounced without even being warned, without any chance to apologize for whatever it may have been that cramped Elana personally. She NEVER even emailed me personally to let me know what was up her butt. She just bounced & forgot...which wasn't too tactful or smart IMO. music world. she perpetuates the myth of being the only fan CF talks > to. But on the other side of the coin, there have been lots of 'oohs' and > 'aahs', 'thanks very muches' and 'we're not worthy' from list members too, > which only encourages such thinking. I think they were indeed being sarcastic. That's Elana's problem...she can't see the difference between truth and sarcasm. > But can we leave the personal attacks out of this? Dano was harshly dealt with > on GoldTri, so I can sympathise with his need to lash out, but it doesn't > achieve anything. Actually, it reveals a truth about someone who tries to hide it underneath her embellished statements pertaining or not to electronic music. I'm not the only one who is almost vomiting over Elana's attitude....we are many...I'm just the only one who can publicly come out and slam her because she no longer holds that petty power of kicking me off her list. Because of her little tantrum I miss conversation with several friends of mine in the electronic field who can't discuss other musicians on this list because it's TD only. THAT does not sit well with me. Why Mark feels the need to wade in with his size twelves is > anyone's guess. Are you feeling as insecure and lost as you claim Elana is, > Mark? Looking for some attention? I suppose I've fallen into your trap, eh? > Actually, I was somewhat put off with the ranting since most keep quiet about their displeasure with Elana. So Mark, what set you off? Did Elana say she would sit next to you on the plane? ;-) > NP : Is there anything out there? - Andy Pickford's 4QNRX > Ooh ooh...what is that!? I don't have that yet! Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11893 Re: Franke Interview Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/12/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 6:57 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 who is LANA ?? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 7:22 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: DJS > Well Vic, you probably ordered something he loves to listen to so he > treated you with favortism. What did you order? Klaumtrang's 'knee deep > in sonic wallpaper'? hehehe ;-) Conrad Schnitzler releases, Ashra, Steve Joliffe's Zanzi, Schulze ala Wahnfried, Syndrone, TD's The Man Inside - you know, common things we all order and he has plenty of in stock ;-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:46 pm Subject: Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 07:41 PM 3/9/98 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: Steven Feldman I've got to top myself, now, and finding that >dadblasted KEEP 'er another oughta do right nicely! Yessirree bob! ;) > > Molasar's Hashmark Undies >+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + >| 'Absence of THE KEEP is not evidence of THE KEEP' -- Albert Feldman | >+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!! AGAIN???? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 2:45 pm Subject: Re: Sorry ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 05:51 PM 3/9/98 EST, you wrote: I have talked with Fripp and Belew. I am much >more impressed with their music, than their conversation. Back around 84-85 I engineered a few sessions for 'The Bears' in Cincy (Belew) and he was absolutely one of the most stand-offish people I've ever had the dis-pleasure of meeting/working with. I was very happy when the sessions ended. On the other hand, old friend Rob Fetters (the other gtr in Bears) is Belews antithisis--warm, engaging guy. Go figure. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 8:21 pm Subject: Re: Sonic Images Studio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky >Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' >Is the house a pink red building? > >Jeffrey No. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 8:32 pm Subject: Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mitchell Dvoskin I have just heard that Luminous Visions will be released on DVD on April 28th. It is scheduled to include a seperate audio CD, and an interview with the band. Suggested retail price $24.98. /Mitchell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11888 Luminous Visions Ken Beal Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11889 Re: Luminous Visions Jim Moore Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11953 Luminous Visions Tom Gerardy Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 12027 Re: Luminous Visions Francisco Salgado C. Sun 3/15/1998 2 KB 12031 Luminous Visions Michael A Jean Sun 3/15/1998 3 KB 13294 Luminous Visions TangerineC Thu 4/23/1998 2 KB 13295 Luminous Visions TangerineC Thu 4/23/1998 2 KB 13457 Luminous Visions Sean Montgomery Thu 4/30/1998 4 KB 14036 Luminous Visions Tom807@a... Sat 5/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 9:13 pm Subject: CD-NOW Shipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' While the shouting about EUROCK goes on...... I just received my shipment from CD-NOW containing the Luminous Visions set. It was shipped in a thin padded envelope, looked like hell when delivered, and the packages were smashed. Not totally destroyed, but certainly not in prime shape. The jewel case was cracked. To be fair, I have sent in a complaint, which has not had time for an answer, but after paying $3.99 for 'shipping and handling' I would think they could have at least used a cardboard wrapper, or even better, a box. Incidentally, if you pre-ordered LV from CD-NOW you paid $19.95, but it was immediately put 'on sale' at $13.95 as soon as they had it in stock. Should I be surprised? Well, I guess I'm not, but I am a bit disappointed. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11877 Re: CD-NOW Shipment TWeibre361 Tue 3/10/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:16 pm Subject: Re: CD-NOW Shipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-10 16:18:49 EST, you write: << To be fair, I have sent in a complaint, which has not had time for an answer, but after paying $3.99 for 'shipping and handling' I would think they could have at least used a cardboard wrapper, or even better, a box. Incidentally, if you pre-ordered LV from CD-NOW you paid $19.95, but it was immediately put 'on sale' at $13.95 as soon as they had it in stock. Should I be surprised? Well, I guess I'm not, but I am a bit disappointed. >> dont even bother...send it back immediately....they are very good for that...mines in the mail also so guess ill pray... tom w np: painkiller - the complete collection disc 2 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:18 pm Subject: Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-10 09:46:41 EST, you write: << Speaking of which, how about all those different versions of 'Love on a Real Train'? AHHH! Stop throwing stuff at me!!! :-) Scott >> Yeah, the word LOART is etched in my head forever.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 10:35 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-10 13:39:44 EST, you write: << .or James's Cameron's personal habits (does he comb his beard or shave it with one of those Don Johnson shavers >> I'm sure Mr.Cameron hasn't touched his face in months. Uh, yeah could you give me a pedicure after my massage? A fucking Billion Dollars, and I haven't seen it. But, it will never knock Star Wars down. Last count Star Wars had like 5 Billion with Merchandising, didn't it? What with all 'The Making' shows, I feel I've already seen all the best parts of Titanic. Wondering if Little Leonardo is getting a percentage and how much, if any. Let's assume for a minute that they don't even declare a profit until 500 Mil, that leaves 500 Mil. Hmm...1 Percent=5 Mil. That'd buy a nice Star Wars collection and a Lamborghini, and damn, maybe a haircut. Maybe he can get what, 10 Mil for his next movie. If I have to hear that Celine Dion song one more time..Aarrgh..David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11880 Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) John M. Poer Tue 3/10/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 11:21 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 05:35 PM 3/10/1998 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: DAVENTURA > David >In a message dated 98-03-10 13:39:44 EST, you write: > > >I'm sure Mr.Cameron hasn't touched his face in months. Uh, yeah could you give >me a pedicure after my massage? A fucking Billion Dollars, and I haven't seen >it. But, it will never knock Star Wars down. Last count Star Wars had like 5 >Billion with Merchandising, didn't it? What with all 'The Making' shows, I >feel I've already seen all the best parts of Titanic David, I think I can safely say, 'You have not!'. Hype aside, this is a genuinely worth effort. Not to deride Star Wars in the slightest (I seen IT more than 10 times , bought the music, bought the toys, etc.). It may not be Star Wars but it is WELL worth seeing. > Wondering if Little >Leonardo is getting a percentage and how much, if any. Let's assume for a >minute that they don't even declare a profit until 500 Mil, that leaves 500 >Mil. Hmm...1 Percent=5 Mil. That'd buy a nice Star Wars collection and a >Lamborghini, and damn, maybe a haircut. I think you can cease to worry about that one. There are almost no actors in Hollywood today that can claim as much as a full 'point' (1%) on the profits of a major release (unless they produce or direct it). The last time that was done WAS Star Wars when George L. gave out points to the cast (Twentieth C. F. hasn't gotten over THAT one yet.....they had to pay out a LOT of hard cash that they couldn't begin to hide in the bookkeeping). No one got points on the two sequels...they DID get a lot of money anyway. These days, the only way you can get 'points' is to work in small productions, essentially for free, and hope for some profit. >Maybe he can get what, 10 Mil for his next movie. He almost certainly WILL get very big bucks for his next one...as will his badly cast leading lady, who may just get the Academy award. Believe me, there is NO logic to Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general. >f I have to hear that >Celine Dion song one more time..Aarrgh..David It only plays at the end credits I think....walk out! All that as it may be.....go ahead chip in another $7.50....see the film, it's a pretty good entertainment. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 11:25 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-07 17:45:20 EST, you write:Marcel << This CD (Tyger) together with LiveMiles we're, IMO, the last good CDs of TD. >> Don't know how you can put these two totally different albums in the same sentence. LiveMiles is not equal to Tyger at all; it flies way beyond IMHO. However, having said that, I DO happen to like Tyger, even the poetry parts and find myself quoting it at odd times like staff training classes (sotto voce, of course). Dave is right in saying Alchemy is the best part of the album and the best part of that is the delightful piano at the end. I must also disagree with your statement that these were the last good CD's. I think you have discounted Melrose too easily. Unless I'm wrong about the dates, this album came out after the above two and is a masterpiece in every song with the possible exception of Art of Vision. I'm going to borrow a phrase from Dave: that's my opinion, it could be wrong. But I'll stick by it. 8-) Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11895 Re: Now Playing Plumer, Scott Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB 11912 Re: Now Playing Marcel Engels Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11913 Re: Now Playing Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11924 Re: Now Playing DAVENTURA Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB 11932 Re: Now Playing Greg Heil Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11946 Re: Now Playing Plumer, Scott Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 12211 Now Playing DAVENTURA Sun 3/22/1998 2 KB 12215 Re: Now Playing feldon@p... Sun 3/22/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 11:53 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 05:35 PM 3/10/1998 EST, you wrote: >Really-From: DAVENTURA {REVISED VERSION -- LESS SPELLING ERRORS ...Sorry) > David >In a message dated 98-03-10 13:39:44 EST, you write: > > >I'm sure Mr.Cameron hasn't touched his face in months. Uh, yeah could you give >me a pedicure after my massage? A fucking Billion Dollars, and I haven't seen >it. But, it will never knock Star Wars down. Last count Star Wars had like 5 >Billion with Merchandising, didn't it? What with all 'The Making' shows, I >feel I've already seen all the best parts of Titanic David, I think I can safely say, 'You have not!'. Hype aside, this is a genuinely worthy effort. Not to deride Star Wars in the slightest (I've seen IT more than 10 times , bought the music, bought the toys, etc.). It may not be Star Wars but it is WELL worth seeing. > Wondering if Little >Leonardo is getting a percentage and how much, if any. Let's assume for a >minute that they don't even declare a profit until 500 Mil, that leaves 500 >Mil. Hmm...1 Percent=5 Mil. That'd buy a nice Star Wars collection and a >Lamborghini, and damn, maybe a haircut. I think you can cease to worry about that one. There are almost no actors in Hollywood today that can claim as much as a full 'point' (1%) on the profits of a major release (unless they produce or direct it). The last time that was done WAS Star Wars when George L. gave out points to the cast (Twentieth C. F. hasn't gotten over THAT one yet.....they had to pay out a LOT of hard cash that they couldn't begin to hide in the bookkeeping). No one got points on the two sequels...they DID get a lot of money anyway. These days, the only way you can get 'points' is to work in small productions, essentially for free, and hope for some profit. >Maybe he can get what, 10 Mil for his next movie. He almost certainly WILL get very big bucks for his next one...as will his badly cast leading lady, who may just get the Academy award. Believe me, there is NO logic to Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general. >f I have to hear that >Celine Dion song one more time..Aarrgh..David It only plays at the end credits I think....walk out! All that as it may be.....go ahead chip in another $7.50....see the film, it's a pretty good entertainment. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11886 Address Change - AOL Sucks (NO TD) Brian E. Kirby Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 12:54 am Subject: Question, please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hanson Family Hello all, I just returned from a tour of duty in Kuwait--I'm USAF. Before I left there was talk of a U.S. tour. Is there any new info.? Thanks to you all. Enjoy, doug -- O /\ * * /\ / \ /\ * * * /\ / \/ \ / \ * * / \/ / \/ \ Douglas W. Hanson, IV / \ dhanson@n... / it's better in Alaska Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11887 Re: Question, please Sean Montgomery Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB 11890 Re: Question, please DJS Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11898 Re: Question, please Hanson Family Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 12:54 am Subject: Elana and Titanic... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' Folks: Could you please limit the discussions about whether X really knows artist Y? They seem to be very close to the point of being personal. No offense to anyone, but I don' think this is the place for such discussions to be aired. Also, stop talking about the Titanic! And Star Wars! Thanks! - jim 'If you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 12:57 am Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > > > At 05:35 PM 3/10/1998 EST, you wrote: > >Really-From: DAVENTURA > >f I have to hear that > >Celine Dion song one more time..Aarrgh..David Way to go!! 'Titanic' is a chic movie if I ever saw one.. arggggggggh! Yes, I *have* seen it. They twist the bounds of reality in the name of romance which (sorry girls) *most* women don't catch on to. > > It only plays at the end credits I think....walk out! > Naww.. you don't understand.. when my G.F. is in the car--usually since she carts me around, they play that frigg'n song like every hour it seems spread across three stations (she looks for it..arrgh). The real cheesy thing is that one version of the song has sound bites from the movie over the song.. 'Rose.. you will die an old lady.' And NO.. Celine Dion would not be a wonderful choice for a third remake of 'Tyger'--unless, of course, 'Smile' is on your FM radio wish hit list. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 8:04 pm Subject: Address Change - AOL Sucks (NO TD) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Brian E. Kirby' Howdy all, Just wanted to let you know that I'm changing my EMail address from Sturminatr@a... to the one you see above (I can spell the idiotic thing out now. yeah.) The old one will remain open until the last week of the month, but I wanted to give you all advance notice. This will be of some importance to the Canadian contingent of the current tape tree, so please make note! -B. Kirby PS - The reason I'm ditching AOL, for those of you who have time to waste on me ranting, is because they suck. No wait, can I be subjected to sporadic connections, limitless advertisements, a mailbox full of spam, AND pay more for it too? What a deal! 'Writers are monkeys who mean' - David Foster Wallace From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 1:23 am Subject: Re: Question, please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Really-From: Hanson Family Mmmmmmbop? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:06 am Subject: Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Howdy... For those of you who are thinking about purchasing this CD...you may want to rethink that decision.. It says on the 1 page booklet 'This sountrack was compiled from the recent Tangerine Dream albums: ROCKOON, TURN OF THE TIDES, TYRANNY OF BEAUTY, DREAM MIXES 1, TOURNADO and OASIS.' What??? I have not seen the video yet, but maybe the tunes go better with the video. Time will tell. Ken -- \\\|/// @( @ @ )@ ~~~~~o00~~~(_)~~~00o~~~~~~~~~~~~~ HOODOO VOODO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11889 Re: Luminous Visions Jim Moore Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:10 am Subject: RE: Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >I have not seen the video yet, but maybe the tunes go better with the >video. Time will tell. Hope you're not drinking when you watch the video... Psychadellic! - jim 'If you could see what I've seen with your eyes...' -- Roy Batty (Rutger Hauer) Blade Runner, 1982 ----------------------------------------------------- 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www.jimbo.vivid.net From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 5:19 am Subject: Re: Question, please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Hanson Family > > Hello all, > > I just returned from a tour of duty in Kuwait--I'm USAF. Before I left there was > talk of a U.S. tour. Is there any new info.? Thanks to you all. > > Enjoy, > doug > -- > O /\ * * > /\ / \ /\ * * * > /\ / \/ \ / \ * * > / \/ / \/ \ > Douglas W. Hanson, IV / \ > dhanson@n... / it's better in Alaska Well, first let me say how sorry I am that your cousins didn't win the grammy...I thought they deserved it! Anyway, Edgar is too busy with remixing, remastering and retarding to tour right now. They cancelled all tour plans so they can work on the 25 CD's they are releasing this year alone. Woo hoo! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Mar 10, 1998 11:51 pm Subject: Re: KITARO (no TD contents whatsoever) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Neal McAuley On 3/5/98 10:45 PM tadream mailing list wrote: >The last time I saw Kitaro (Universal Amphitheatre in Hollywood) about 4 >years ago I actually sold him a hard drive that he needed for one of his keyboards. Didn't manage to weasel free tickets out of him but he was pleased that I had heard of his music. Neal :-) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:20 am Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > > David, I think I can safely say, 'You have not!'. Hype aside, this is a > genuinely worthy effort. Not to deride Star Wars in the slightest (I've > seen IT more than 10 times , bought the music, bought the toys, etc.). It > may not be Star Wars but it is WELL worth seeing. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ SW isn't that great of a film to start out with. There are better sci-fi films out there... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 9:05 am Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: DJS > >I can't forward anything...I've been bounced from the Goldtri list, >remember? I was bounced without even being warned, without any chance to >apologize for whatever it may have been that cramped Elana personally. >She NEVER even emailed me personally to let me know what was up her >butt. She just bounced & forgot...which wasn't too tactful or smart >IMO. music world. Yeah, I know. But you obviously have 'access' to those messages, since you posted the original Franke interview post to the list which sparked this discussion. Anyway, it's irrelevant now. BTW, did any of your 'contacts' ever send you the long post from Elana explaining why you were bounced from GoldTri? If not, e-mail me and I'll pass it on. >> NP : Is there anything out there? - Andy Pickford's 4QNRX >> >Ooh ooh...what is that!? I don't have that yet! 'Is There Anybody Out There' (sorry, my typo in the first place) is a sampler from Champagne Lake Productions, AD Music and Synth music Direct, produced by our very own Ash Prema. At the time, he was very vocal about it on this list. 4QNRX is Andy's contribution to the sampler. The sampler states that the track is taken from a forth-coming release, but I don't know if it's been forth-coming yet. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 5:47 pm Subject: silver scale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen > >Really-From: Vic Rek > >> Really-From: Armin Theissen > >> Silver Scale is - slightly 'tangentized' - on the 5th CD of the >> Box Set 'Tangents'. >> [...] > >[...] >Since this track wasn't officially released until Tangents, then I'd >like to know what this track was called before the title was announced, >or was it off an earlier concert set list or something? > A wee bit of 'Silver Scale' appeared in the soundtrack 'Wavelength'. Don't remember the title. Otherwise I'm not aware of any previous title of this track. I've been on TD concerts in Oct. 1980 and Jan. 1981. 'Silver Scale' was the opener of the 2nd half of the concert. It wasn't played on my next TD concert in 1982 (the Logos tour). armin Armin Theissen ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Armagh Observatory email: ath@s... College Hill http://star.arm.ac.uk/~ath Armagh BT61 9DG Phone: (+44) 1861 522928 N. Ireland Fax: (+44) 1861 527174 o/ \o_ \ / __ __o |o \__/o | o____ |__ __/ \__/o | / | / o\ / | > / \ /o\ o| << | \o__/ Ouch!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:11 pm Subject: RE: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >CD's. I think you have discounted Melrose too easily. Unless I'm wrong about Yeah, I think Melrose kicks too. I especially like the intro to Rolling Down Cahuenga. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Titanic (Was: RE: Franke Interview (warning...some humor)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >He almost certainly WILL get very big bucks for his next one...as will his >badly cast leading lady, who may just get the Academy award. Believe me, >there is NO logic to Hollywood or the entertainment industry in general. On the contrary, I think she was very well cast. She's kinda plain-looking, which makes all these young teeny-boppers and old hags think they might just have a chance at landing a cutie like Leonardo. I don't think it would have been anywhere near as popular with a Jennifer Aniston in the role. From what I've heard about it, though, it's just a typical Hollywood love story. But the main reason I will never see it is that Cameron built that studio in Mexico SPECIFICALLY to circumvent the unions. Ob. TD: I can do without the vox on Tyger, but I rather like the instrumental versions they played live. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11899 Re: Titanic (Was: RE: Franke Interview (warning.. Elias Granillo, Jr. Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11909 Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) feldon@p... Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11939 Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) Robert Grabowsky Thu 3/12/1998 5 KB 11917 Re: Titanic (Was: RE: Franke Interview (warning.. DJS Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:21 pm Subject: Franke Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda Dear Dreamers, I have seen the reactions to my posting about Elana's Chris Franke phone conversation and I'd like to explain myself a little bit more. Those of you who follow the GT list know that it is not my normal m.o. to flame anyone... in fact it's a first. I have tried to be constructive and helpful and I would be the first to admit that I am just a novice in this territory. It has been very gratifying to be part of both of these lists and let me just say that this is a very classy group of people. Also, being a born-again TD and E-Music fanatic (first heard Rubycon in 1975, found it again in 1996), I realize the true spirit of these mailing lists is just to help us all appreciate the music we love all the better. Although I don't have more than a few months of history to work off of, what set me off is that I really don't appreciate being 'talked down to' by Elana. Most of it is harmless and even amusing, but I guess I just felt that since no one else said anything, maybe I should! Also, my skepticism got the best of me and it's easy to get carried away with the keyboard sometimes... and I *love* to write, so it was just begging to be said. However, Craig, you did a good job of presenting counter arguments and Dano, who I know certainly has no love lost for Elana, you even *sort of* defended Elana's credibility. That is admirable and it speaks well for yours and Elana's character. I really just wanted to get to the bottom of whether Elana's story was true and I thought the Tadream list would be a good place to find out. But I guess it really wasn't fair to slam her behind her back. The real truth will never be known to anyone but Elana and Chris. So I am going to swallow my pride and come out and apologize for being out of line. I hope we can just chalk this up to me being an over-zealous neophyte who got carried away and said something stupid. :-) I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. So be it. Sincerely, Mark Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11900 Re: Franke Apology Plumer, Scott Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB 11910 Re: Franke Apology feldon@p... Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11916 Re: Franke Apology DJS Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:22 pm Subject: Re: Question, please ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hanson Family Thanks Dano for the reply. I too, am sorry that my no talented cousins didn't win either. Was it ever true that TD was to tour the US? Enjoy, doug -- O /\ * * /\ / \ /\ * * * /\ / \/ \ / \ * * / \/ / \/ \ Douglas W. Hanson, IV / \ dhanson@n... / it's better in Alaska From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:50 pm Subject: Re: Titanic (Was: RE: Franke Interview (warning...some humor)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > >He almost certainly WILL get very big bucks for his next > one...as will his > >badly cast leading lady, who may just get the Academy award. > Believe me, > >there is NO logic to Hollywood or the entertainment industry in > general. > > On the contrary, I think she was very well cast. She's kinda > plain-looking, which makes all these young teeny-boppers and old hags > think they might just have a chance at landing a cutie like Leonardo. I > don't think it would have been anywhere near as popular with a Jennifer > Aniston in the role. You think Kate Winslet is plain-looking? I'm beginning to wonder about you guys, haha, with all the attention you're giving Leonardo!!!!!!!! What's next? Gorgeous babes like Salma Hayek & Jennifer Connelly are butt-ugly woofs? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:00 pm Subject: RE: Franke Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I have seen the reactions to my posting about Elana's Chris Franke phone >conversation and I'd like to explain myself a little bit more. Those of Hey, I thought it was funny! Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 2:38 pm Subject: 1981 Tour Poster ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek I have come across a poster that says: 'Fritz Rau presents Illusions of Tangerine Dream, 23 January 1981 Stadhalle Kassel, Germany'. Anybody have this? Is is rare? Thanks in advance for any information. Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11923 Re: 1981 Tour Poster TWeibre361 Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:38 pm Subject: A REAL WHITE OUT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Nasty weather here in the US... I went out for a walk in the blizzard accompanied by Schmoelling's WHITE OUT CD... It certainly seemed approporiate... (ha ha) MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11919 Re: A REAL WHITE OUT DJS Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB 11944 Re: A REAL WHITE OUT Antonio Nunes Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:42 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vic Rek > > > once or twice a year. I get prompt service. But I have one secret > about the postage. I call him up, reserve the items, never fill out his > order form (where it tells you how to calculate the postage), and then I > enclose the postage I deem appropriate for the order. Last time I > ordered 2 CDs, threw in $3 for postage and in a week I had my CDs Thanks for the tip, Vic! Sounds like a plan...an indie mail-order vendor like Archie won't refuse an order...he's an indie! I've ordered numerous times from Archie over the years, and the most I paid was $6 postage, etc., for 2 CDs, which I did think was a little high, considering certain prog-rock vendors like Syn-Phonic charge only $3 for *any* size surface order in the States, or in CD Treasures' case, about $4.50 for the first four discs UPS, which is fair. Actually, I only have one beef about Archie (you're a cool guy, Archie, don't worry!): the fact that since he commands a $50 minimum purchase when using a credit card, he adds another $2 *processing* fee. So, let's say I order four $15 CDs. That's $60, plus his $4 postage plus $2 'handling' plus another two bucks because I'm using a VISA. As a vendor, he can set his guidelines, but you should only have a $50 minimum OR a $2 'processing fee' (which I've heard is illegal). I would have ordered more stuff with credit card from the Arch-man, but this pretty much discourages me. Anyone else have any thoughts on the matter? E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11972 Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 10:39 am Subject: looking for cdr tape tree people ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ben Ohmart I'm REALLY interested in getting cdr copies of the TD tape trees. Please email me. Thanks. Ben Ohmart findline@m... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:50 pm Subject: Luminous Visions Info ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean For what its worth, my package arrived in excellent condition... I haven't seen the video yet, but the running time is listed as 45 minutes and has 11 tracks... The CD has a longer running time (about 70 minutes) with 12 tracks... As Jerome already mentioned, it wouldn't contain any new music... However, the track list closely parallels THE VIDEO DREAM MIXES... 1)Jungle Journey (Reptile Mix) (6.20) 2)Towards the Evening Star (6.21) 3)Rough Embrace (5.30) 4)Catwalk (Black Ink Mix) (8.12) 5)Touchwood (the Forest Mix) (4.02) 6)Change of the Gods (7.19) 7)Bride in Cold Tears (The Motown Monk Mix) (5.31) 8)Little Blonde in the Park Of Attractions (The Thai Dub) (4.09) 9)Firetongues (The Break Freak Mix) (6.18) 10)Sojus (9.19) 11)Flashflood (7.01) 12)Midwinter Night (4.36) The difference are that tracks 2,11,12 don't appear on Video Dream Mixes, where as San Rocco appears on VDM but not LV... There are a few minor typos, such as the fact that the description for Rockoon actually belongs to Dream Mixes, and that Goblin's Club is not listed as a source of the compilation (probably since it wasn't distributed by Mirimar). Howver, since LV is distributed by SONY, it is unclear why that might be important.... Possibily the biggest news appears on a little insert inside the CD, which says: (drum roll please...) For upcoming 1998 US Tour dates visit the Tangerine Dream website or call 1-800-245-6472! MJ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11918 You meet all kinds... feldon@p... Wed 3/11/1998 4 KB 11921 Luminous Visions Shipment John M. Poer Wed 3/11/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:57 pm Subject: Re: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: AslanFan1 > > > When I lived in LA, I met Paul Haslinger at a computer trade show. He was > extremely friendly and I asked hima few questions about LiveMiles. He acted > interested in what I did for a living and seemed very approachable. However, I > saw in Tower a couple months later and his wife (I think) was not at all > interested in talking with a fan, so I left them alone. They were upset to find that Rob Halford had not rejoined Judas Priest. Once, in 1989, in Tower Records, West Covina, Dan and I (this is what we get for looking around in the New Age section) met a woman who claimed she knew Steve Roach, and who then proceeded to shower us with crystals, hugs and postive energy. She wanted to take us home for a tag team match, but we said, 'Lady, you're too old for us.' Did anything else happen, that I forgot, Dan? E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:00 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > limp-dick! I just sent a copy of Eno's MUSIC FOR THE WHITE CUBE to > someone--in a box, with a shitload of bubblewrap without insurance-- > for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: It frightens me that someone would pay that kind of money for a Brian Eno CD. What exactly was on it? (...so long as there weren;t eight remixes of the Prophecy Theme...) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:18 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview (warning...some humor) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > Okay..true example here. Leonardo Decaprio came up to our table at the > Shrine show (a monthly comic/anime convention) in LA a couple weeks ago > asking about Star Wars stuff. He's coming down to the store after hours > to buy a sh%$load of Star Wars stuff. That doesn't mean I'm gonna tell > everyone that I'm his buddy or that he's gonna give me all the inside > info on Titanic... When's he going? I'll hide in the dumpster out back with a shotgun (that dude needs to be put out of his misery...then I'll write a piece for the LA Times, 'They Shoot Leonardos, Don't They?' E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:33 pm Subject: Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 09:08 AM 3/11/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > From what I've heard about [Titanic], though, it's just a typical >Hollywood love story. But the main reason I will never see it is that >Cameron built that studio in Mexico SPECIFICALLY to circumvent the >unions. Heh... Obviously, we have different views of unions. Unions were good... 30 years ago. Now they victimize productions. Why the HELL should people get paid $25 an hour to remember where all the props are, or make sure the wiring is all taped down properly? Yes, cinematographers deserve their pay. They know how to frame a shot perfectly... but the caterers and the drivers getting paid TWICE what they would get paid if it weren't a union affair? Holy moly! Same as auto-workers who get paid $17 an hour. No offense to anyone who works/had relatives who work for the auto-industry, but seriously... Corporations need to cut costs. I wouldn't blame GM or Chevrolet if they instituted a new policy disallowing people to be members of unions... Today's unions do little more than leverage money from successful corporations, seriously cutting growth and victimizing stockholders. On the other hand... =) Unions have been extremely helpful in the past, forcing corporations to enforce safety codes and give employees benefits they otherwise wouldn't have... But as an example of Unions going too far... You don't want to hear my comments on how rediculous the new OSHA-compliant 'lifting braces' I see people wearing around their waists... You'd think our parents would have died from lifting milk cartons or something. Morgan feldon@p... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11939 Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) Robert Grabowsky Thu 3/12/1998 5 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:36 pm Subject: Re: Franke Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... >Really-From: Mark Fonda > >Dear Dreamers, > >So I am going to swallow my pride and come out and apologize for being >out of line. I hope we can just chalk this up to me being an >over-zealous neophyte who got carried away and said something stupid. Guess I'm guilty of blatantly refusing to pull any punches... >I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. >So be it. Are you sure you really want to be there? hrmm... Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:32 pm Subject: Tour 1998 After All? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > Possibily the biggest news appears on a little insert inside the [Luminous Visions] CD, which > says: (drum roll please...) > > For upcoming 1998 US Tour dates visit the Tangerine Dream website or call > 1-800-245-6472! We all know the North American Spring Tour isn't happening. Just for the helluvit, I called that 800 number, and spoke to someone called Tom, who said that TD has postponed the Tour til this summer, for which they still have to set the dates. Hmmm..... E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 4:48 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: AOutland > ><< This CD (Tyger) together with LiveMiles we're, IMO, the last good CDs of >TD. > >> > Don't know how you can put these two totally different albums in the same >sentence. LiveMiles is not equal to Tyger at all; it flies way beyond IMHO. >However, having said that, I DO happen to like Tyger, even the poetry parts >and find myself quoting it at odd times like staff training classes (sotto >voce, of course). Dave is right in saying Alchemy is the best part of the >album and the best part of that is the delightful piano at the end. > I must also disagree with your statement that these were the last good >CD's. I think you have discounted Melrose too easily. Unless I'm wrong about >the dates, this album came out after the above two and is a masterpiece in >every song with the possible exception of Art of Vision. I'm going to borrow a >phrase from Dave: that's my opinion, it could be wrong. But I'll stick by it. >8-) Dell Oh, I didn't mean I like them both the same. LiveMiles is way better, imo. Optical Race came after that and was the downfall for TD, again imo. Marcel From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 5:20 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > Oh, I didn't mean I like them both the same. LiveMiles is way better, imo. > Optical Race came after that and was the downfall for TD, again imo. OR has some great tracks, like 'Mothers Of Rain' and 'Cat Scan.' The fall of TD began with Melrose, in my opinion. LiveMiles Part 1 is great, but I don't bother with Part 2. E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 6:41 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > BTW, did any of your 'contacts' ever send you the long post from Elana > explaining why you were bounced from GoldTri? If not, e-mail me and I'll pass > it on. I know why I was bounced. I made a joke that Elana should find a sexually desperate guy on IRC in the Netherlands to buy her a ticket so she could attend Huizen (it's a pathetic common practice here in America for people on IRC to hook up via a plane ticket purchased for them). I still think it's hilarious, & so do 90% of the list members...they're just being quiet on Elana's behalf heh heh. It's not like I posted her weight or anything, sheesh. > > >> NP : Is there anything out there? - Andy Pickford's 4QNRX > >> > >Ooh ooh...what is that!? I don't have that yet! > > 'Is There Anybody Out There' (sorry, my typo in the first place) is a sampler > from Champagne Lake Productions, AD Music and Synth music Direct, produced by > our very own Ash Prema. At the time, he was very vocal about it on this list. > > 4QNRX is Andy's contribution to the sampler. The sampler states that the track > is taken from a forth-coming release, but I don't know if it's been > forth-coming yet. Cool, thanks for the info! np: JMJ Oxygene 13-17 Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11929 Re: Franke Interview Todd W Olson Wed 3/11/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 5:47 pm Subject: Administrivia...(Unions & Titanic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta Can we shift things back a bit more towards TD folks? There are plenty of places to talk about the movie and the usefulness of unions... -Dave From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 6:59 pm Subject: Re: Franke Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. > So be it. > > Sincerely, > Mark Hey, there are worse things in life...YOU could have been the guy stuck with Elana in her room at Huizen. ;-) Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 7:03 pm Subject: Re: Titanic (Was: RE: Franke Interview (warning...some humor)) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > > > >He almost certainly WILL get very big bucks for his next > > one...as will his > > >badly cast leading lady, who may just get the Academy award. > > Believe me, > > >there is NO logic to Hollywood or the entertainment industry in > > general. > > > > On the contrary, I think she was very well cast. She's kinda > > plain-looking, which makes all these young teeny-boppers and old hags > > think they might just have a chance at landing a cutie like Leonardo. I > > don't think it would have been anywhere near as popular with a Jennifer > > Aniston in the role. > > You think Kate Winslet is plain-looking? I'm beginning to wonder about you > guys, haha, with all the attention you're giving Leonardo!!!!!!!! What's > next? Gorgeous babes like Salma Hayek & Jennifer Connelly are butt-ugly > woofs? This should have been mailed privately...but: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! And now back to Tangerine Dream... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 6:02 pm Subject: You meet all kinds... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... Wow... amazing the people I see in #tadream on EFNET IRC... Most of the time, I'm not there, so Daventura comes in and leaves 3 seconds later, or Sturminator, or some of the others... I've spoken with them live tho. It's much different than e-mail, because you can get realtime answers to questions. You talk about things we never talk about through e-mail... For example, just now... *** snafu64 (snafu64@t...) has joined #tadream > greetings hello > are you on the mailing list? no - should I be? Can I ask a facile question? Which is your favourite album? > Logos then Poland... after that, it's sort of a tie between Phaedra, Rubycon, Force Majeure, and Dream Mixes Nah, sorry - cannot stand any after Phaedra - am I wrong? > you only like Phaedra? 1974? which ones have you heard? > because I don't like their stuff after 1986 except for Dream Mixes and 220 Volt. no, Alpha Centuri, Atem, but especially Zeit - the others just got boring and predictable. > oh, your favorites are Alpha Centauri, Atem, and Zeit? hehehe > you need Green Desert (1973) > I have NEVER met anyone who only liked 1970-74 TD I didn't like it one bit - second rate > you have Green Desert and Electronic Meditation? > second rate? > hahahahahaha > um, ok > so you only like 3 out of 70 releases > well, I guess every bloke likes their own thing. > You will find the TD mailing list totally boring Electronic Meditation is a bit silly really, but Fly and Collision of the Comas Sola is out there! You may have a point about the mailing list - bye. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 7:09 pm Subject: Re: A REAL WHITE OUT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Michael A Jean > > Nasty weather here in the US... I went out for a walk in the blizzard > accompanied by Schmoelling's WHITE OUT CD... It certainly seemed > approporiate... (ha ha) > > MJ It sure is..THAT CD is about as entertaining as the sound of a blizzard. What was Johannes thinking?? Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 7:19 pm Subject: Re: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > Really-From: AslanFan1 > > > > > > When I lived in LA, I met Paul Haslinger at a computer trade show. He was > > extremely friendly and I asked hima few questions about LiveMiles. He > acted > > interested in what I did for a living and seemed very approachable. > However, I > > saw in Tower a couple months later and his wife (I think) was not at all > > interested in talking with a fan, so I left them alone. > > They were upset to find that Rob Halford had not rejoined Judas Priest. What? Rob never rejoined? > Once, in 1989, in Tower Records, West Covina, Dan and I (this is what we > get for looking around in the New Age section) met a woman who claimed she > knew Steve Roach, and who then proceeded to shower us with crystals, hugs > and postive energy. She wanted to take us home for a tag team match, but we > said, 'Lady, you're too old for us.' Did anything else happen, that I > forgot, Dan? > > E-Man Nope, this is a true story folks. She did also mention that Roach (or perhaps it was Braheny she spoke of as well) wanted to do his music while people made love to it (basically an Electronic Orgy so to speak....which are still currently available from SC at 1-714-839-3693 and...er..). I don;t know Eli, do you really think she wanted a threesome? Did she grab your ass when she hugged you or something? You left out the part where she gave us her business card (a florist...go figure!) & told us to call her to set up a meet with Roach. She then gave us a crystal, a few hugs & left. I would never have had a threesome though with her and Eli, I wouldn't want to embarass Eli & his size yeeeehahahhaha! Anyway, we never called needless to say...probably because she looked like the secretary from Moonlighting...woo hoo! Regards, Dano np: JMJ Oxygene 7-13 various remixes From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: Luminous Visions Shipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' Hi, OK, I said that my initial gripe about the CD-NOW shipment might be premature. It was. They CALLED me back and said they would be glad to replace the damaged LV shipment, and pay for the return, They also said they would credit me the difference between the pre-order price and the current 'sale' price. That's pretty good service. I stand corrected. Incidentally, the guy I talked with said he was a 'lapsed' TD fan and had missed the release of LV. Said it sounded interesting and he would get one. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 3:28 am Subject: quinoa for sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> anybody want to help my pay for some baby diapers?? I have a few copies of quinoa available for $50 each + $3 postage (US or $6 international airmail). please contact me off-list lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 7:40 pm Subject: Re: 1981 Tour Poster ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-11 10:05:02 EST, you write: << 'Fritz Rau presents Illusions of Tangerine Dream, 23 January 1981 Stadhalle Kassel, Germany'. Anybody have this? Is is rare? Thanks in advance for any information. Vic >> ive got the same one, except from erlangen stadthalle 28 january... tom w np: polygon window - surfing on sine waves From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 7:58 pm Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-10 18:30:52 EST, you write: << I'm going to borrow a phrase from Dave: that's my opinion, it could be wrong. But I'll stick by it. 8-) Dell >> I'll be expecting my check next week....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:00 pm Subject: Re: Luminous Visions Shipment ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault Woa, just a sec here. I was out of two for a couple of weeks on a seminar, and looks like I missed some bits. What is this 'Luminous Vision' thing? Is this a new TD CD? C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:06 pm Subject: Re: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > > They were upset to find that Rob Halford had not rejoined Judas Priest. > > What? Rob never rejoined? Wot? Where you been? > > Once, in 1989, in Tower Records, West Covina, Dan and I (this is what we > > get for looking around in the New Age section) met a woman who claimed she > > knew Steve Roach, and who then proceeded to shower us with crystals, hugs > > and postive energy. She wanted to take us home for a tag team match, but we > > said, 'Lady, you're too old for us.' Did anything else happen, that I > > forgot, Dan? > > > Nope, this is a true story folks. She did also mention that Roach (or > perhaps it was Braheny she spoke of as well) wanted to do his music > while people made love to it (basically an Electronic Orgy so to > speak....which are still currently available from SC at 1-714-839-3693 > and...er..). I don;t know Eli, do you really think she wanted a > threesome? Did she grab your ass when she hugged you or something? You > left out the part where she gave us her business card (a florist...go > figure!) & told us to call her to set up a meet with Roach. She then > gave us a crystal, a few hugs & left. I would never have had a threesome > though with her and Eli, I wouldn't want to embarass Eli & his size ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Alas, this is right. Dan is perhaps longer. But, unfortunately, he's also 'pencil*dick.' I'm a little shorter than Dan, but you know what they say about us stocky guys, hehe. E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11956 Re: Name Dropping Michael Fox Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:58 pm Subject: Re: SBM and DQC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: Colin Knowles > > Hi all, > > Just a quick question fore all you technical > people out there.. > > What is the difference between the SBM re-mixes of > say Exit and Green Desert, and the > DQC re-mixes of Live Miles? I know what SBM stands > for but what about DQC? > Since no one answered I give my opinion/version of this: SBM is just a method to crunch near 20 bits of info in a 16 bit format by means of dithering and noise shaping . Dither is to add a bit of random signal ( noise) to the signal. Noise shaping is subtracting the error signal from the sample N-1 to the sample N. Those two methods add resolution beyond the lowest significant bit. Of course not in the whole bandwidth. But you have 20 bit resolution below 5 Khz and 19 bit below 10 Khz. Noise floor goes from the normal -96 dB of a standard 16 bit signal to around -130 dB at the normal hearing frequencies and is a bit worse beyond 15 kHz ( but I swear you cannot hear it). DQC as far as I guess, is a complete mastering processor ( that uses dithering and noise shaping) and the rest of the mastering tools: EQ, reverb, echoes, delays, and a compressor/maximizer. --- Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:26 pm Subject: Re: You meet all kinds... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA In a message dated 98-03-11 13:08:50 EST, you write: << Most of the time, I'm not there, so Daventura comes in and leaves 3 seconds later >> OK, I'll double that and stay 6 seconds next time....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 8:31 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Todd W Olson How much does Elana weigh? hehe shut up beavis hehe From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 9:57 pm Subject: Re: Franke Interview ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta : Really-From: Todd W Olson : : How much does Elana weigh? How about shifting this back to a TD discussion? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Mar 11, 1998 10:06 pm Subject: Warning! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1 Dont I feel like an idiot! I got Luminous Visions today, the cd and video set from CD NOW. What a letdown to open the CD only to find that it's all old material on the CD! Here's the tracklisting: Jungle Journey- Reptile Mix 6:20 Towards the Evening Star 6:21 Rough Embrace 5:30 Catwalk-Black Ink Mix 8:12 Touchwood-The Forest Mix 4:02 Change of the Gods 7:19 Bride in Cold Tears-The Motown Monk Mix 5:31 Little Blond inthe Park of Attractions-The Thai Dub 4:09 Firetongues-The Break Freak Mix 6:18 Sojus 9:19 Flashflood 7:01 Midwinter Night 4:36 CD Packaging is pretty psychedelic. The back has a b/w photo of Edgar and Jerome. If I may be a bit sarcastic, there's a breaking insert that says to see the website of TD for upcoming US tour dates or call 18002456472. Don't hold your breath. The insert card is a card, not folded. As for the video, which is what I should probably write about, I haven't watched it yet. I just wanted to get the word out for anyone else who thought it was going to be new material. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 5:18 am Subject: Re: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > OR has some great tracks, like 'Mothers Of Rain' and 'Cat Scan.' The fall > of TD began with Melrose, in my opinion. LiveMiles Part 1 is great, but I > don't bother with Part 2. > > E-Man It's great driving music at least, the cassette found a home in the car. I swear 'Turning of the Wheel' got its name from the 'tick tock' of a car's turning signal.. I believe that's in the song :) I like Livemiles 1 and 2 but on 2, I skip to the 8 minute mark, and then ending is pretty cool as well. Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Mar 8, 1998 4:13 pm Subject: Silver Scale/Horns of Doom question ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel After hearing Horns of Doom off the tape tree stuff and I recalled someone mentioning how much more there was to Silver Scale, am I correct in assuming Horns of Doom is part of this (it sure sounds Silver Scaleish), and will this concert show up in the 80's portion of the tape tree? How much of this awesome song am I missing between the tangents fade out and the start of Horns of Doom? anyhow -Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12113 Re: Silver Scale/Horns of Doom question feldon@p... Wed 3/18/1998 3 KB 12138 Re: Silver Scale/Horns of Doom question AOutland Thu 3/19/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 8:42 am Subject: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS Hey fellow folks...I have a few Cd's I want to launch because I have some extras. If you need these just email me quick...first come first served. They are: Buckaroo Banzai-OST (now's your chance Banzai fans!) Tangerine Dream-Man Inside Tangerine Dream-Logostype Assault On Precinct 13 OST (Carpenter) Tangerine Dream-soundtrack for fantasy Tangerine Dream-collected endings Michael Hoenig-Xcept One Rock on dream pilgrims! Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11941 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last Rainer Rutka Thu 3/12/1998 63 KB 11943 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last SRiser3600 Thu 3/12/1998 2 KB 11947 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last Merrick, Nigel Thu 3/12/1998 4 KB 11950 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last Vic Rek Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11957 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last Michael Schuelke Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11960 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last Jens Peschke Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11965 Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last DJS Fri 3/13/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 4:29 pm Subject: illusions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Armin Theissen >Really-From: Vic Rek > >I have come across a poster that says: > >'Fritz Rau presents Illusions of Tangerine Dream, 23 January 1981 >Stadhalle Kassel, Germany'. > >Anybody have this? Is is rare? Thanks in advance for any information. >Vic > Envy - I've got corresponding tickets... armin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 5:40 pm Subject: SBM explanation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) No TD content, you may skip this message. Here is a not-so-technical explanation of how SBM works. > Dither is to add a bit of random signal ( noise) to the signal. > > ... add resolution beyond the lowest significant bit. Yes, and I often have to explain this to sceptical people who say 'But it is impossible to store information on a CD that is smaller than one bit!'. Simple - think of a photograph in a B/W newspaper. There you have only 1 bit of information - either it is black or it is white. But by 'dithering' - adding random bits spread over different distances - you get different scales of grey which would normally require several bits to store the intensity of black. Another example...if you have a PC running Windows, you can set your VGA card to only display 16 colors (4-bit). Nevertheless, Windows will be visible with 256 distinct colors, by help of dithering pixels so that from afar they appear to blend into a variety of colors. Try it out and see the difference. You are looking at an 8-bit signal represented in a 4-bit resolution. Now you can imagine the similar process on a CD where 20 or 24 bits are represented by 16-bit resolution. >Noise floor goes from the normal -96 dB of a standard 16 bit signal to >around -130 dB at the normal hearing frequencies and is a bit worse >beyond 15 kHz ( but I swear you cannot hear it). Yes, in the examples I gave above, the process only works when you are looking from a certain distance. If you look at the Windows screen from too close, you will begin to see only the pixels. Similarly, at the highest frequencies of the CD beyond 15kHz you would also begin to hear the dithering noise. But with hearing, us humans are unable to ever hold the newspaper close enough... Hilmar From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 10:41 am Subject: Pcikford's'NEMESIS' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' Well, I couldn't let these referrals to Andy Pickfords new release 'Nemesis' go unheeded. The album will be out in 8 - 12 weeks and you'll be notified at the time....but hey.............have you tried my own 'Stranger In A Strange Land' and Paul Lawlers 'Year Zero'..........the reviews have been so good - suprised even me!!!.......Both available from (ahem!!!) Eurock! GO ON!! MAKE YOUR DAY!! PS. Redshifts 'Ether' will be ready in 2 weeks or so latest!! Ash From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 11:12 am Subject: Looking for Lady Greengrass, Ultima Thule ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: stcherbachenko.AS@p... (Andrei Stcherbachenko) Hello folks Does anyone have Lady Greengrass, Ultima Thule for sale? Please answer off-list. Andrei From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 12:51 pm Subject: Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky >Really-From: feldon@p... > > >Today's unions do little more than leverage money from successful >corporations, seriously cutting growth and victimizing stockholders. Mr Feldon, I thought you were pretty cool till I saw this post this morning. I am a Union Electrician and I would have it no other way being in the Construction Industry. We bust our asses for our money and benefits that we recieve. We do NOT want to take money away as you put it. We want to see the American worker treated in a better manner and be able to buy a car and a house and not have to worry where his or her next meal will come from. You obviously do not work construction and have not seen some of the deplorable conditions that the Non Union contractors expect you to work in for wages like $8.50 - $12.00 per hour. In a field where you have gone through at least a 4 year apprenticeship and testing to get a Journeymans license. I make $16.15 per hour and still feel with all the knowledge I have I am underpaid. If it was not for people like me you would not have most of the buildings and highways to use. The ones that are bleeding the companies of their money are the CEO that shine a seat with their ASS and get paid million dollar bonuses for finding ways to cut corners and layoff employees. Attack them NOT us the Union Worker. >Unions have been extremely helpful in the past, forcing corporations to >enforce safety codes and give employees benefits they otherwise wouldn't >have... We also help get the 40 hour work week, 8 hour days, holidays (i.e. Labor Day)all these things were brought about through Unions. >But as an example of Unions going too far... WRONG DUDE! >You don't want to hear my comments on how rediculous the new OSHA-compliant >'lifting braces' I see people wearing around their waists... You'd think >our parents would have died from lifting milk cartons or something. This was brought on by the Insurance companies and Risk Management groups.They are the ones bringing on all the silly restrictions that make it even harder for people to work. I am not saying that everyone should be Union. However we all deserve good wages and benefits no matter what we do. Union or Non-Union it is your choice. Look at both sides and see which is right for you and make sure you are being treated well for what you do. Sorry for the balsting in Public folks but it had to be said. THE HIGHLANDER Robert Grabowsky From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 1:12 pm Subject: Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta Folks, PLEASE TAKE THIS TO PRIVATE E-MAIL. It is a highly inflammatory discussion with NOTHING to do with music or TD... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11942 Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) Robert Grabowsky Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 10:27 am Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Rainer Rutka On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, tadream mailing list wrote: > Really-From: DJS > Hey fellow folks...I have a few Cd's I want to launch because I have > some extras. If you need these just email me quick...first come first > served. They are: > Tangerine Dream-Man Inside > Tangerine Dream-Logostype HI DANO ! YES PLEASE ! I WANT !!!!!!!!! Reserve it for me !!!! Do you want to swap ? Or sell ? Here's my (not finished) list for trading : Collected Rarities, Bootlegs and Rarities ========================================= This list is not finished - yet ! 09.03.1998 Trading - lists welcome ! Sound: 1 poor 5 just ok 10 perfect The duration (time) is from the CD-R. It's _not_ the original duration labled on the LPs or singles. Index: 1) Collected Rarities ------------------ Colletion of self-burned CD-Rs (Pioneer CDR) Most of them from bootlegs (LPs), rare singles, maxis, and tapes. All with color-cover. 2) Boots ----- Some of them are fine - some of them are poor. But I love and collect them all. 3) CDR-Boots --------- CDRs, not made by myself ! 4) Sampler ------- Various artists sampler with TD on it. 5) Regular releases in a short form and rarities --------------------------------------------- All LPs, Singles, EPs, Maxis and CDs I own. LPs, Singles and CDs witch are rare (IMO). Some soundtracks and promos. 6) Solo-Works and div. Stuff ------------------------- Later I'll include the solo-works, too. I think (or hope) I have most of 'em. E.g. Chris Franke, Klaus Schulze, Edgar Froese, Peter Baumann, Johannes Schmoeling, Klaus Krueger, Conrad Schnitzler ........ 1) C O L L E C T E D R A R I T I E S =================================== COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 1 (Bicycle Race) Live in Bristol, 06.11.1990, Melrose Tour No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Bicycle Race, Side 1 1990 23:36 8 02 Bicycle Race, Side 2 23:58 from the LP 'Bycicle Race'. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 2 (Seekers of dreams) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Seekers of dreams, Part 1 (Live Orange, France) 1975 7:42 5 02 ' , Part 2 (see '01') 1975 8:03 5 03 ' , Part 3 (see '01') 1975 17:37 5 04 ' , Part 4 (see '01', Single A-Side) 1975 3:44 5 05 ' , Part 5 (see '01', Single B-Side) 1975 3:47 5 06 Monolight (Single-Mix from 70-80) - 3:06 7 07 Daydream (Single A-Side) 1983 4:29 8 08 Moorland (Single B-Side) 1988 3:51 8 09 ICC, Berlin (Excerpt from Live-Tape) 1981 6:09 6 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 3 (Leprous Appearance on Wednesday) Live in Melbourne, 24.08.1982 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Lep. Appe. on Wednesday, Intro 1982 0:36 7 02 Lep. Appe. on Wednesday, Part 1 21:46 03 Lep. Appe. on Wednesday, Part 2 19:42 04 Lep. Appe. on Wednesday, Part 3 3:59 05 Outro COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 4 (Electronic Inspiration) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Electronic Inspiration (Complete) (Will be finished tomorrow) Fassbinder Memorial, Side A (Live Germany, 10' EP) 1983 15:18 8 Fassbinder Memorial, side B (see '03') 14:28 8 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 5 (Timeless Space (1/2)) Live London - Hammersmith Odeon, Maarch 1986 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Timeless Space, Side 1 1986 30:46 7 02 Timeless Space, Side 2 30:36 from the DoLP 'Timeless Space' COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 6 (Timeless Space (2/2)) Live London - Hammersmith Odeon, Maarch 1986 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Timeless Space, Side 3 1986 19:23 7 02 Timeless Space, Side 4, Encore 1 7:33 03 Timeless Space, Side 4, Encore 2 5:49 04 Timeless Space, Side 4, Encore 3 6:23 from the DoLP 'Timeless Space' COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 7 (Edgar Froese, AGES) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Metropolis 1978 11:10 10 02 Era of the Slaves 8:09 03 Topic of Capricorn 20:44 04 Nights of automatic Woman 9:08 05 Icarus 9:11 06 Children's deeper Study 4:27 07 Ode ot Granny A 4:44 from CD 'Ages' COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 8 (Edgar Froese, AGES, 2 Parts) (Edgar Froese, MACULA TRANSFER) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Pizarro and Atahuallpa 1978 7:31 10 02 Golgatha and the Circle closes 8:00 9 03 OS 452 1976 7:54 9 04 AF 765 11:03 05 PA 701 7:29 06 Quantas 611 4:59 07 IF 810 4:27 08 Metropolis (new Mix) 1995 5:41 10 09 Topic of Capricorn (new Mix) 5:11 10 Michiko 1992 2:45 10 11 Barull Blue 1980 7:12 8 Track 01 : Ages CD Track 02 : Ages DoLP, 'the missing Track' Track 03-07 : Macula Transfer LP Track 08-09 : Beyond the Strom CD - Sampler Track 10 : The Best of the 01/W CD - Promo Track 11 : 70/80 4-LP-Boxset COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 9 (Fotzenslecker) (Rock at the Philharmonic) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Fotzenslecker, Side One (Monolight, Live Seattle) 1976 18:35 5 02 Fotzenslecker, Side Two (Live Seattle) 1976 12:52 5 03 Rock at the Philharmonic (Live Berlin, Dummy-Head) 1976 29:19 9 04 Berlin Radio Announcement 1976 0:17 9 05 Edgar Froese 'Sobornost' (Solo-Track) 1981 7:18 6 06 Froese Interview (GDR-Radio) 1980 6:04 8 (Track 03 is Stereo with Dummy-Head, Radio-cut) COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 10 (Space & Spheres) (Live in Munich) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Sp. & Sph., Part 1 (Live Newcastle) 1981 23:43 7 02 Sp. & Sph., Part 2 (see '01') 1981 21:25 7 03 Kiew Mission (Live Munich, with Orchestra) 1981 8:52 9 04 Mojave Plan (see '03') 1981 20:27 9 (03, 04 is Stereo. Radio-cut) COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 11 (Space Trucking) (Dolphin Dance) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Space Trucking, Side 1 (Preston Guild Hall) 1980 20:02 7 02 Space Trucking, Side 2 (Newcastle) 1981 19:26 7 03 Dolphin Dance (Dolphin Dance Maxi EP) 1986 3:58 10 04 Dolphin Smile (see '03') 1986 5:02 10 05 Song of the Whale (see '03') 1986 8:15 10 06 'Der Soeldner', Part 1 (Soundtrack, + dialogue) 1981 1:41 4 07 'Der Soeldner', Part 2 (see '06') 1981 3:19 4 08 'Der Soeldner', Part 3 (see '06') 1981 3:29 4 09 'Der Soeldner', Part 4 (see '06') 1981 0:33 4 10 'Der Soeldner', Part 5 (see '06') 1981 2:46 4 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 12 (Nottingham) Live in Nottingham, 08.11.1976 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Nottingham, Part 1 1976 33:36 8 02 Nottingham, Part 2 31:54 03 Cherokee Lane (Excerpt, remix from 70-80-Box) 8:12 8 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 13 (Three Phase Video Soundtrack) Live Paramount Theater Seattle, 25.10.1992 and more... Best quality ! Stereo No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The Bunch Palms 1993 5:26 10 02 Dolls in the Shadow 2:47 03 Treasure of Innocence 3:45 04 Oriental Haze 5:03 05 Graffiti Street 5:19 06 Backstreet Hero 4:10 07 Phaedra (new mix) 3:46 08 Love on a Real Train 3:22 09 Hamlet 4:49 10 Purple Haze 3:26 11 Logos (new mix) 5:02 12 Dreamtime (CD-Single, Vocal: Jayney Klimek) 1993 3:45 10 13 Eleanor Rigby (CD-Single Shepherds Bush) 1996 8:41 10 14 Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal (see 13) 5:16 16 Maechen on the Stairs (CD-Single, World-Tour 97) 1997 4:06 10 17 Maechen on the Stairs (see 16, R.ne.v.pl.mix,excerpt) 5:37 Tracks 1 to 11 are from the Three Phase - Video. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 14 (Sheffield) Live in Sheffield, UK, 29.10.1974 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Sheffield City Hall 1974 41:40 7 02 Gedanken (Ash Ra Tempel) 1973 7:31 7 03 Land (Klaus Schulze) 1973 10:36 8 Tracks 2 and 3 are not TD. It's from the 'Kosmische Musik' - Sampler Both tracks are only available on this sampler. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 15 (York) Live in York, UK, 20.10.1975 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 York, Part 1 1975 39:39 8 02 York, Part 2 22:54 03 York, Part 3 11:50 Parts 4 and 5 are on one of the next CR-CDRs. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 16 (York, Part 2, TV-Special from German TV) Live in York, UK, 20.10.1975, 2nd Part No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ... not finished ! COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 17 (Sampler, No. 2) 2nd Sampler. Better quality like the CD-No. 1 (First Sampler). No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Das Maedchen auf der Treppe (Live BIOS-Bahnhof TV) 1982 5:09 9 02 Ultima Thule, Part 1 (Single A-Side) 1972 3:31 8 03 Ultima Thule, Part 2 (Single B-Side) 1972 4:33 8 04 Overture (from 'V'-Sampler) 1972 11:10 7 05 Chorozon (Exit-Promo-Single, Side A) 1981 4:46 8 06 Network 23 (Exit-Promo-Single, Side B) 3:55 7 07 Das Maedchen auf der Treppe (MaxiEP,Tatort, Side A) 1982 3:43 9 08 Flock (see 07) 2:22 09 Katja (MaxiEP,Tatort, Side B) 2:48 10 Speed (see 09) 2:31 11 Daydream (LP-Sampler 'Shimanskis Tatort Hits') 1983 4:32 9 12 Moorland (see 11) 3:30 13 Das Maedchen auf der Treppe (see 11, div. mix !) 3:46 14 Warsaw in the Sun (45-Single-Mix, Side A) 1984 3:49 9 15 Polish Dance (45-Single-Mix, Side B) 4:12 16 Dolphin Smile (Maxi-EP Dophin Dance) 1986 5:00 9 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 18 (Luxembourg) German TV-Special, Live Centre Culturelle Luxembourg 17.10.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 10 vor 11 (TV-Special, RTL, german language) 1997 23:53 9 02 Centre Culturelle, Part 1 1980 37:20 7 03 Centre Culturelle, Part 2 1980 9:11 7 Track 1 is from German-TV (Mono). Track 3 is incomplete (on the source-tape). COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 19 (White Cloths (1/3) Staatsgrenze West (1/2)) Live in East Berlin, 31.1.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 White Cloths, Introduction of the Band) 1980 3:56 10 02 White Cloths, Part 1 (Evening Concert) 1980 37:15 10 03 Lustlose Planerfuellung 1980 22:18 8 Track 1-2 from 2-Cassette-Box 'White Cloths', No. 23/25 20.00 o'clock-concert Track 3 from Bootleg 'Staatsgrenze West' COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 20 (White Clothes (2/3) Staatsgrenze West (2/2)) Live in East Berlin, 31.1.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 White Clothes, Part 2 1980 45:24 10 02 White Clothes, Part 4 1980 12:00 10 03 Antifaschistischer Schutzwall 1980 16:03 8 Track 1-2 from 2-Cassette-Box 'White Cloths', No. 23/25 20.00 o'clock-concert Track 3 from Bootleg 'Staatsgrenze West' COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 21 (White Clothes (3/3)) Live in East Berlin, 31.1.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 White Clothes, Part 3 1980 44:55 10 02 White Clothes, Part 5 1980 29:32 7 Track 1 from 2-Cassette-Box 'White Cloths', No. 23/25 16.00 o'clock-concert Track 2 from 2-Cassette-Box 'White Cloths', No. 23/25 Interview in East-German radio, 1980 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 22 (Don't walk - Dream now (1/2)) Live in Berlin - Eissporthalle, 19.02.1978 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The blue side, DON'T 1978 24:29 5 02 The yellow side, WALK 25:45 from 2-LP-metal box, 'Don't walk - Dream now' No. 29/200 with Edgar Froese, Chris Franke, Steve Jolliffe and Klaus Krieger COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 23 (Don't walk - Dream now (2/2)) Live in Berlin - Eissporthalle, 19.02.1978 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The red side (Part One), DREAM 1978 9:20 5 02 The red side (Part Two), DREAM 15:20 03 The green side, NOW 24:33 from 2-LP-metal box, 'Don't walk - Dream now' No. 29/200 with Edgar Froese, Chris Franke, Steve Jolliffe and Klaus Krieger COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 23 (Don't walk - Dream now (2/2)) Live in Berlin - Eissporthalle, 19.02.1978 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The red side (Part One), DREAM 1978 9:20 5 02 The red side (Part Two), DREAM 15:20 03 The green side, NOW 24:33 from 2-LP-metal box, 'Don't walk - Dream now' No. 29/200 with Edgar Froese, Chris Franke, Steve Jolliffe and Klaus Krieger COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 24 (Live in Berlin (1/2)) Live in Berlin - ICC, 26.01.1981 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 ICC Berlin, Part 1 1981 34:17 7 02 ICC Berlin, Part 2 10:50 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 25 (Live in Berlin (2/2)) Live in Berlin - ICC, 26.01.1981 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 ICC Berlin, Part 3 1981 38:11 7 02 ICC Berlin, Part 4 10:29 03 ICC Berlin, Part 5 3:27 04 ICC Berlin, Part 6 5:31 05 ICC Berlin, Part 7 5:25 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 26 (Live in Düsseldorf (1/2)) Live in Düsseldorf - Phillipshalle, 11.11.1982 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Düsseldorf, Part 1 1982 41:33 7 02 Düsseldorf, Part 2 17:03 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 26 (Live in Düsseldorf (2/2)) Live in Düsseldorf - Phillipshalle, 11.11.1982 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Düsseldorf, Part 3 1982 26:30 7 02 Düsseldorf, Part 4 3:58 03 Düsseldorf, Part 5 4:32 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 28 (Live in Sydney (1/2)) Live in Sydney - Regent Theatre 08.1982 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Sydney 1982, Part 1 1982 25:59 9 02 Sydney 1982, Part 2 15:29 very good sound ! Stereo. (FM) COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 29 (Live in Sydney (2/2)) Live in Sydney - Regent Theatre 08.1982 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Sydney 1982, Part 3 1982 25:26 9 02 Sydney 1982, Part 4 11:46 03 Sydney 1982, Part 5 9:00 04 Sydney 1982, Part 6 7:45 05 Sydney 1982, Part 7 4:52 very good sound ! Stereo. (FM) COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 30 (Oedipus Tyrannos, Miriam, Metropole Berlin) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Oedipus Tyrannos (incomplete) 1974 19:01 7 02 Tatort 'Miriam' (OST, including german dialogs) 1985 20:37 8 03 Metropole Berlin (OST) ? 18:20 8 Track 1: BBC Studios, London, FM Track 2: German TV-series 'Tatort'. With Goetz George as Schimanski. Track 3: (Help wanted ! (everything's unknown)) COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 31 (Live in Tokyo (1/2)) Live in Tokyo - Kohseinenkin Hall 23.06.1983 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Live Tokyo, Part 1 1983 40:56 7 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 32 (Live in Tokyo (2/2)) Live in Tokyo - Kohseinenkin Hall 23.06.1983 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Live Tokyo, Part 2 1983 29:12 7 02 Live Tokyo, Part 3 9:28 03 Live Tokyo, Part 4 3:56 04 Live Tokyo, Part 5 7:54 05 Live Tokyo, Part 6 5:30 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 33 (L'Affaire Wallraff) OST 'The Man Inside' 1991 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Wallraff's Theme 1991 1:47 9 02 Tendency of Love 4:11 03 Addicted to the Truth 4:45 04 World of the Standard 4:19 05 Purposes of Brevity 4:32 06 Tobel's Death by the River 4:33 07 Taboo Society 3:31 08 The Drive to Hannover 4:55 09 Correlations of Lies 3:55 10 Investigation 4:24 11 News and Morality (incomplete !) 0:19 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 34 (Canyon Dreams Session Tape) OST Canyon Dreams, rough cuts No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Canyon Dreams, Part 1 1987 7:34 9 02 Canyon Dreams, Part 2 4:24 03 Canyon Dreams, Part 3 9:18 04 Canyon Dreams, Part 4 5:49 05 Canyon Dreams, Part 5 4:45 06 Canyon Dreams, Part 6 8:11 07 Canyon Dreams, Part 7 5:32 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 35 (Live Los Angeles) Live SIR-Theater, LA 12.07.1995 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 SIR Theater, Part 1 1995 7:20 8 02 SIR Theater, Part 2 5:26 03 SIR Theater, Part 3 4:51 04 SIR Theater, Part 4 4:53 05 SIR Theater, Part 5 4:44 06 SIR Theater, Part 6 4:45 07 SIR Theater, Part 7 4:42 08 SIR Theater, Part 8 6:45 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 36 (Performing Arts Center (1/2)) Live Providence, RI 27.6.1986, Part 1 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Pilots of Purple Twilight 1986 4:37 7 02 Stratosfear (1986-mix) 6:42 03 Link-Track 3:02 04 Zen Garden 13.32 05 Scuba Scuba 13:41 06 Piano Medley (Ricochet/Song of the Whale 2) 3:37 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 37 (Performing Arts Center (2/2)) Live Providence, RI 27.6.1986, Part 2 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Dolphin Dance 1986 9:12 7 02 Ride on the Ray 9:09 03 Going West 7:20 04 Yellowstone Park 6:00 05 Underwater Twilight 4:17 06 Darkness 3:45 07 Loved by the Sun/Unicorn Theme 6:53 08 Piano Solo (Mozart) 1:53 09 Rare Bird 4:23 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 38 (Alien Air Music) Live 1986-1990 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Alien Air Music, Part 1 (LA 5.6.86) 1986 14:12 7 02 Alien Air Music, Part 2 (') 16:52 03 Yellowstone Parc (AAM, Part 3) 5:42 04 Samba Motel (Phoenix, 7.6.86) 1986 4:20 9 05 Bois De Bologne (Albuquerque, 8.6.86) 1986 3:46 9 06 House of the Rising Sun (USA) 1986 4:36 9 07 Loved by the Sun/Unicorn Theme (Germany) 1990 6:56 9 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 39 (The complete works of The Keep) Soundtrack, 1983 complete No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The Keep, Part 1 1983 3:53 9 02 The Keep, Part 2 5:27 03 The Keep, Part 3 3:00 04 The Keep, Part 4 4:14 05 The Keep, Part 5 8:24 06 The Keep, Part 6 1:28 07 The Keep, Part 7 4:10 08 The Keep, Part 8 1:48 09 The Keep, Part 9 3:51 10 The Keep, Part 10 5:48 11 The Keep, Part 11 6:33 12 The Keep, Part 12 8:23 13 The Keep, Part 13 4:01 14 The Keep, Part 14 3:12 15 The Keep, Part 15 3:17 16 The Keep, Part 16 3:30 17 The Keep, Part 17 2:50 Unrelease soundtrack from 'The Keep'. The complete works. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 40 (Rare Tracks and Mixes) Rare B-sides, bonus-tracks and others... No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Catwalk (Special Long Version) 15:18 10 02 Catwalk (Short Walk Edit) 4:38 03 Tyger (Relativity Mix) 5:13 04 Vigour 5:00 05 Voxel Ux 11:41 9 06 Chia Maroon 4:07 10 07 Dancing Grizzlies 4:34 08 Unicorn Theme 6:54 9 09 Quaser 3:46 10 10 Legend (Vocal) 3:02 8 11 Fort Worth Runway One 6:45 10 Dates: later COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 41 (Live London (1/2)) Live Vicotria Apollo, 10.11.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Vicoria Apollo, Part 1 1980 29:54 8 02 Vicoria Apollo, Part 2 6:32 03 Vicoria Apollo, Part 3 5:38 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 42 (Live London (2/2)) Live Vicotria Apollo, 10.11.1980 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Vicoria Apollo, Part 4 1980 40:31 8 02 Vicoria Apollo, Part 5 11:06 03 Vicoria Apollo, Part 6 6:03 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 43 (Live Bristol (1/2)) Live Colston Hall, 06.11.1990 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Bristol, Part 1 1990 22:44 8 02 Bristol, Part 2 19:49 03 Bristol, Part 3 23:02 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 44 (Live Bristol (1/2) Live Gelsenkirchen) Live Colston Hall, 06.11.1990 Live Gelsenkirchen, Germany, 11.11.1981 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Bristol, Part 4 1990 23:59 8 02 Kiev Mission 1981 6:37 8 03 Chorozon 9:03 04 Mojave Plan (Beginning only) 7:08 Track 2-3 are Live Gelsenkirchen. WDR-FM: 'Musiktheater' im Gemeindezentrum Lukaskirche. COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 45 (Live in Monteal (1/2)) Live Place des Arts, 10.04.1977 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Introduction 1977 0:39 8 02 Place des Arts, Part 1 17:11 03 Place des Arts, Part 2 22:32 04 Place des Arts, Part 3 22:51 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 46 (Live in Monteal (2/2)) Live Place des Arts, 10.04.1977 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Place des Arts, Part 4 1977 19:48 8 02 Place des Arts, Part 5 10:14 03 Place des Arts, Part 6 11:47 04 Outro, Stage Sounds 1:36 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 47 (Live in Paris (1/2)) Live Palais des Sports, 22.11.1976 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Palais des Sports, Part 1 1976 20:30 8 02 Palais des Sports, Part 2 25:15 COLLECTED RARITIES, Volume 48 (Live in Paris (2/2)) Live Palais des Sports, 22.11.1976 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Palais des Sports, Part 3 1976 35:54 8 02 Palais des Sports, Part 4 9:08 B O O T L E G S =============== LIVE! IMPROVISED ! Recorded live at Reims Chathedral Do-CD No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Improvisation 1 1974 46:30 8 02 Improvisation 2 38:00 (Oh Boy 2-9159) DANGER LIVE TD live in Brussels (Belgium) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Danger Live Part I 1976 39:32 7 02 Danger Live Part II 21:07 03 Danger Live Part III 10:07 (SSC-2114688) PATROLLING SPACE BORDERS Live Montreal - Place des Arts No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Sequence I 1977 17:18 6 02 Sequence II 5:43 03 Sequence III 22:26 04 Sequence IV 6:02 05 Sequence V 10:01 05 Sequence VI 11:50 (Laserium RecordsSSG-7869964) Sounds better than 6 but CD is terribly mixed. ACOUSTIC LSD Live in Seattle, USA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 The Emerald Beyond ? 37:14 8 (Cash Records CA 26893) SOUNDTRACK FOR FANTASY Live in Detroit, USA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Undulation ? 43:25 8 (Cash Records CA 26894) ME-RAD argonautica americana part one Live USA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Movemant One 1976 32:52 7 02 Movemant Two 32:05 (SIRA 29) ARDEM 'O' argonautica americana part two Live USA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Ardem 'O' Part One & Part Two 1988 54:43 7 (SIRA 30) COLLECTED ENDINGS argonautica americana part three Live USA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Me-Rad: The Encore 1976 12:00 7 02 Ardem 'O' Part Two 1988 10:31 7 03 Ardem 'O' The Ending 31:09 (SIRA 31) SONAMBULISTIC IMAGERY Live at Laguna Hills, Irvine Meadows Amphitheatre Do-CD No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Imagery One 1986 44:48 8 02 Imagery Two 1986 41:14 03 Imagery Three 7:31 04 Imagery Four 6:50 05 Imagery Five 5:35 (BM5/6) SOUND AND EFFECTS Live in New York City No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Mothers Of Rain ? 3:24 7 02 After The Call 5:18 03 Tyger 4:42 04 Alchemy Of The Heart 3:56 05 Phaedra 4:03 06 Livemiles, Part Two 5:13 07 Logos 10:02 08 Cat Scan 4:57 09 Atlas Eyes 4:38 10 Marakesh 9:49 11 Ghazal 4:35 12 House Of The Rising Sun 7:00 (ACS 012) ANTARKTIS No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 - 10 Live in Reichstag Berlin 1987 7 11 - 13 Live in Bristol 1990 7 (Cover shows differnt (fantasy)-titles) (Pinguin 001) IN DEN GAERTEN PHARAOS / BICYCLE RACE Live in Bristol No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 - 08 In den Gaerten Pharaos 1990 7 (Cover shows differnt (fantasy)-titles) 09 Sequence I (Bicycle Race) 1990 10 Sequence II (see '09') 11 Sequence III (see '09') 12 Sequence IV (see '09') (Chrystal Paradise 90116) RAETIKON Live in Melbourne, Australia No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Raetikon (Tangerine Dream) 1982 43:27 8 02 Foehn (Tangerine Dream) 10:16 03 Mure (Tangerine Dream) 4:32 04 Bettina/Would The Christians Wait For Five Minutes (Popol Vuh / MAN) ? 14:06 9 05 Glint / East of Woodbridge (Brian Eno) 7:10 9 (Avion Music) MYSTERY TRACKS No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Going West (Flashpoint Soundtrack) 1984 4:18 9 02 Afternoon in the Dessert (see '01') 3:38 03 Plane Ride (see '01') 3:39 04 Mystery Tracks (see '01') 3:18 05 Lost in the Dunes (see '01') 2:45 06 Highway Patrol (see '01') 4:14 07 Love Fantasy (see '01') 3:44 08 Mad Cap Story (see '01') 4:02 09 Dirty Cross Roads (see '01') 4:25 10 Quinoa (Fan Club Goodbye CD) 1992 28:32 10 11 One Night in Medina 1991 3:45 9 12 I Just Want to Live my Own Life Without You 3:28 13 Dr. Destructo 4:07 14 Rumpelstiltskin - Theme 2:55 (Phantasmatron Schallplatten Rostock) SOL ET LUNA No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Heartbreakers (Heartbreakers Soundtrack) 1985 2:34 9 02 Footbridge to Heaven (see '01') 3:00 03 Twilight Painter (see '01') 4:22 04 Gemini (see '01') 3:42 05 Rain in New York City (see '01') 3:30 06 Pastime (see '01') 2:57 07 The Looser (see '01') 3:26 08 Breathing the Night away (see '01') 2:31 09 Desire (see '01') 5:40 10 Thormy affair (see '01') 3:13 11 Daybreak (see '01') 4:06 12 Alexander Square (Special Long Version) ? 6:19 9 13 Oriental Haze (Unrel. track, with Lindy Spa) 3:57 9 14 Barull Blue (from 70/80 LP-Box-Set) 197? 7:14 7 15 Chimes & Chains (see '14') 4:39 16 Haunted Heights (see '14') 6:07 17 Oszillator Planet Concert (Live Ossiach, Austria) 1971 8:01 9 18 Dancing Grizzlies (Froese Interview, excerpt) 1992 ? 9 (Sphinx 800 019-2) 20TH CENTURY SERENADES No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Live Miles, Part 2 ? 10 02 Smile (Instrumental) 03 Ride on the Ray (incl. Guitar-Solo) 04 Going West 05 Yellowstone Park Encores 06 Tyger (Instrumental) 07 Tiergarten 08 21st Century Common Man, Part One 09 Time for Heroes (Nordiska Musiken) (Perfect Recording! Best boot - ever !) DREAMING ON DANFORTH AVENUE Live at the Music Hall Toronto No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Live Music Hall 1992 60:04 8 (BM 3) THE KEEP Soundtrack (Blue Box) No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Dinu Pass (The Keep Studio Master Tape) 1983 3:07 10 02 The Keep (Main Title) (see '01') 4:05 03 The Black Soldiers (see '01') 5:14 04 Deadly Silver Crosses (see '01') 6:31 05 Brothers In Death (see '01') 8:07 06 Evil Healing (see '01') 3:51 07 Glaeken's Quest (see '01') 4:38 08 The Evil From Within (see '01') 4:47 09 The Black Soldiers (1st Mix) (see '01') 8:57 10 Gloria (German Radio Broadcast) ? 3:05 10 11 Romanian Road (see '10') 2:52 12 Fisherman's Morning (see '10') 3:20 13 Sailing Mission (see '10') 3:00 14 The Keep 'Mid Theme' (Remix) (CD 70/90 Bootleg) 1983 1:50 9 15 The Keep 'End Theme' (Remix) (see '14') 2:22 (BMCD12) OSSIACH LIVE Weltsprache Musik. The Universal Language. Do-CD Ossiach Austria No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05 Oszillator Planet Concert (Tangerine Dream) 1971 8:01 10 Perfect sound ! (FAR 010) (Boot ! But looks like a official release.) ELECTRONIC ORGY 4-CD-Set The Dream Boots Collection CD1 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Philosophical Conversation 1986 0:22 10 02 Oszillator Planet Concert ('Ossiach') 1971 8:00 03 Ultima Thule (Part 1) Single A-Side 1972 3:24 04 Ultima Thule (Part 2) Single B-Side 4:21 05 Overture (from 'V') 1975 10:58 06 Haunted Heights (70-80 Boxset) 1980 5:56 07 Chimes & Chains (see '06') 4:35 08 Baryll Blue (see '06') 7:04 09 Monolight (Remix) (see '06') 3:06 10 Dr. Destructo (Thief) 1981 4:14 11 Confontation (see '10') 5:32 12 Code Name: The Soldier (OST) 1982 1:51 13 Die Russen kommen (Baumann/Schnitzler) 1982 3:28 14 The 4:08 To Paris (see '13') 4:08 15 The Russians Are Coming (see '13') 4:43 CD2 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 OS 452 (remix) (Froese) 1982 5:26 10 02 PA 701 (see '01') 4:42 03 Topic Of Capricorn (see '01') 4:34 04 Pizarro and Athuallpa (see '01') 4:10 05 NGC 891 (rerecorded) (see '01') 4:33 06 Das Mädchen auf der Treppe (Tatort OST, 12'-Single) 1982 3:43 07 Flock (see '06') 2:22 08 Katja (see '06') 2:47 09 Speed (see '06') 2:29 10 Daydream (Tatort OST, 7'-Single) 1983 4:31 11 Moorland (see '10') 3:51 12 Fisherman's Morning (The Keep-Promo) 1983 3:24 13 Romanian Road (see '12') 2:55 14 Sailing Mission (see '12') 3:02 15 Gloria (see '12') 3:10 16 The Dream is Always the Same (R.B. OST, Single) 1983 2:24 17 Love on a Real Train (see '16') 2:15 18 Chased by Guido, The Killer Pimp (R.B. Press-Kid) 3:04 19 Joel and the Porsche Take the Plunge (see '18') 1:02 20 Catching the Egg (see '18') 0:12 21 The Return of the Goodsens (see '18') 0:58 22 Love on a Real Train (see '18') 3:10 23 Warsaw in the Sun (7'-Single) 1983 3:48 CD3 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Warsaw in the Sun (Part 1) (12'-Single) 1983 4:45 10 02 Warsaw in the Sun (Part 2) (see '01') 2.58 03 Streethawk (Radio remix) (12'-Single) 1985 3:02 04 Prologue (Legend) 1986 1:20 05 Unicorn Theme (Legend, WDR-'Schwingungen') 1985 7:02 06 Horns of Doom (KLEM-Cassette) 1986 5:41 07 Dolphin Smile (Dolphin Dance, 12'-Single) 1986 4:55 08 Brother or Stranger (City Of Shadows) 1986 4:43 09 Shy People (Original Film-Version) 1987 5:17 10 Shadow Flyer (Canyon Dreams, Video-Version) 1987 7:14 11 A Time for Heroes (extended) (CD-Single) 1987 6:02 12 A Time for Heroes (single) 4:12 13 House of the Rising Sun (live 1988) 1988 4:32 14 Vermillion Sands (Franke, Klem-CD) 1989 5:33 15 Alexander Square (CD-Single) 1989 6:16 CD4 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Lost Tale (Klem-CD) 1989 3:35 10 02 Octahedron I (Haslinger, Octahedron sampler) 1991 4.45 03 Octahedron II (see '02') 4:05 04 I just want to Rule my own Life without you (Instr.) 1991 3:28 05 One Night in Medina (Tatort CD-Single) 1991 3:42 06 I just want to Rule my own Life without you (Vocal) 3:58 07 Roaring of the Bliss (Private Music-Sampler) 1992 4:58 08 Beaver Town (see '07') 4:24 09 Michiko (Inlet says 'Machiko') (Froese-Solo) 1992 2:46 10 Purple Haze (Dreamtime CD-Single) 1993 2:59 11 Dreamtime (Vocal) (see '10') 3:40 12 Graffitti Street (live) (Three Phase Video) 1994 4:39 13 Phaedra (see '12') 3:44 14 Oriental Haze (see '12') 5:36 15 Love an a Real Train (see '12') 3:18 16 Story of the Brave (Turn of the Tide, Promo-CD) 1994 5:17 17 Quazer (Italian CDI) 1995 3:43 18 Sound Sampling of 'No Man's Land' (Promo-Cassette) 1985 4:13 19 The Dream is Always the Same (Film Quote) 1983 0:30 On of the best CDs ever !!!! Collection of rare Singles, Tracks, Soundtracks and more VERY GOOD QUALITY ! 3.) C D - R B O O T L E G S ========================== A'DAM EVE Live 20.4.97 at the Melkweg Amsterdam Do-CD CD 1 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Waterborne 1997 2:48 8 02 Sorcerer 3:07 03 Thief 2:43 04 Sundance Kid, Part 1 2.26 05 Sundance Kid, Part 2 5:38 06 Logic (Silver Scale) 9:33 07 Barbakane 4:57 08 Exit 4.16 09 Stratosfear 1995, Part 1 5:34 10 Stratosfear 1995, Part 2 2:28 11 Dolphin Dance 5:17 12 Logos 6:24 13 Streethawk 4:58 14 The Blue Bridge 3:48 15 Flashflood 7:35 Tracks 1-14 'Vintage Set' Track 15 'Modern Set' CD 2 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 220 Volt (Big Volt Version) 1997 7:02 8 02 Bridge 1:42 03 Firetongues 6:28 04 Girls on Broadway 5:30 05 Little Blond in the Park of Attractions (Thi Dub) 8:04 06 Rising Haul in Silence 7:18 07 Lamb with Radar Eyes (Lost Lamb Version) 6:38 08 Touchwood (The Forest Mix) 7:47 09 Towards the Evening Star 7:11 10 Maechen on the Stairs (Sunrise Club Mix) 6:40 11 Thief Yang & the Tangram Seal 5:19 12 Purple Haze 3:05 13 Edgar's Closing Remarks 0:52 Tracks 1-9 'Modern Set' Tracks 10-13 'Encores' A limited promotional edition of 33 numbered copies Very nice cover. Looks like a 'official' boot. ZONING 1987 Original Movie Soundtrack Zoning Original Movie Soundtrack The Soldier No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Opening Theme 1987 20:57 8 02 Zone 1 to 18 Zone 17 19 Ending Theme 20 Soldier, Part 1 19?? 29:11 8 21 Soldier, Part 2 22:14 Track 1-19 Zoning 1987 Original Movie Soundtrack (Rough Cut Mix) Track 20-21 The Soldier Movie Soundtrack (Routh Cut-Lars Mix) A limited promotional edition of 11 numbered copies Very nice cover. Looks like a 'official' boot. ELECTROBEATS Radio Eins, February 1st 1998 3rd Haur (3:00-4:00) TD Rarities No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Intro: Jungle 'Electrobeats' 0:15 10 02 On Cranes Passage (Demo-Version) 1996 4:09 03 Conversation 1:28 04 Ride on the Ray (Live Brighton, Guitar-Part) 1986 10:27 05 Conversation 1:22 06 Legend 'Leftover' (Live Brighton) 1986 3:43 07 Conversation 2:13 08 Mandala (OST) 1990 4:49 09 Converstaion 0:48 10 Unicorn Theme (Vocal by Susanne Pawlitzki) 1985 3:07 11 Conversation 0:40 12 Girl on the Stairs/Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal 1997 12:17 13 Converstaion 0:34 14 Live Dresden, Hygienemuseum 1983 8:40 15 Outro: Jingle 'Radio Eins' 0:12 Very nice item ! All conversations are translated in the english language. STREETHAWK Selections from the Streethawk Soundtrack CD1 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 - 89 1985 73:49 9 CD2 No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 01 - 67 1985 63:57 9 Nice color-cover. DoCD including some dialogs and the complete (!) music. 4.) S A M P L E R ============= THE BEST OF THE 01/W Korg Demo CD for the 01/W - Keyboard No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05 Michiko (Edgar Froese - Solo) 1992 2:47 10 (CD 01/W) SCHIMANSKIS TATORT HITS LP-Sampler of soundtracks from German-TV-Series No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05 Daydream 1983 8 06 Das Maedchen auf der Treppe (White Eagle) 1982 13 Moorland 1983 (diferent mixes !) (CBS 24070, 1986, LP) KOSMISCHE MUSIK DoLP-Sampler from the German-Ohr-Lable No. Track (Comments) Year Time Sound ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 05 Geburt (from Electrinic Meditation) 6:00 8 06 Sunrise in the third System (from Alpa Centauri) 4:20 8 07 Origin of supernatural Probabilities (from Zeit) 10:01 8 08 Gedanken (Ash Ra Tempel, only on this DoLP) 7:38 8 09 Land (Klaus Schulze, only on this DoLP) 10:33 8 (Track 8 and 9 is not TD - but rare !) (Ohr OMM 2/56027) 6.) S O L O (TD-MEMBERS and EX-TD-MEMBERS) Note: I made a copy the the 'missing Track' from AGES (Edgar Froese) on CDR: 'Golgatha and the Circle Closes'. My 'AGES'-CD is a double-CD ! (And it's complete) to be continued.... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mit den besten Gruessen vom Bodensee ! Rainer Rutka --------------------------------------------------------------------- K+R Informationssysteme Konstanz E-Mail : rainer@k... Klimas und Rutka GbR CIS : 100065,2273 Griesseggstrasse 27 D Telefon : +49 (0)7531 29842 D-78462 Konstanz Fax : +49 (0)7531 29879 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 'Zentrum fuer objektorientierte Softwareentwicklung und -design' Spezialisten fuer : SMALLTALK, UNIX und Windows/NT - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 1:31 pm Subject: Re: Unions (was Re: Titanic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky David, My apologies. I saw your first request for this after I had sent my reply. Robert >Really-From: David Datta > > > >Folks, PLEASE TAKE THIS TO PRIVATE E-MAIL. It is a highly inflammatory >discussion with NOTHING to do with music or TD... > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 1:42 pm Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 HOW MUCH FOR MAN INSIDE ? From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 1:52 pm Subject: Re: A REAL WHITE OUT ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Antonio Nunes Michael A Jean > Nasty weather here in the US... I went out for a walk in the blizzard > accompanied by Schmoelling's WHITE OUT CD... It certainly seemed > approporiate... (ha ha) Here in Madeira island, 'Lily on the Beach' is more appropriate right now :-) Antonio From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 2:39 pm Subject: Suggestions... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Tom Richmond' Hello tadreamers: Usually I just lurk here, but I've got a favor to ask. I'm doing a tape trade with someone who's opted to let me choose the music I sned him. We've narrowed it down to three tapes of TD and three tapes of other quality EM. His only exposure to TD was Phaedra some time ago, and it wasn't his 'cup of tea'. His only stipulation was that the music 'go somewhere' as opposed to 'meandering about'. I believe you all get his drift. So... I have some opinions of my own, but I'd also like some suggestions from you all for those TD tracks that you feel 'go somewhere' (i.e. 'kick some butt'). I don't want to forget any really good ones. Also, he's not opposed to my use of a boot if it fits the bill... keep in mind I don't have too many of these. Also, any suggestions of other quality EM would be appreciated. You may respond to me privately or to the list. Once I get the tapes done, I'll post the track lists for your amusement, so you can all tell me where I went wrong. ;-) Thanks! Tom Richmond trichmnd@e... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11948 Re: Suggestions... Plumer, Scott Thu 3/12/1998 2 KB 11952 Re: Suggestions... Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11968 Re: Suggestions... ROGER HELLIWELL Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11997 Re: Suggestions... AOutland Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12018 Re: Suggestions... Gilles Nadeau Sun 3/15/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 2:59 pm Subject: RE: Now Playing ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >It's great driving music at least, the cassette found a home in the car. >I swear 'Turning of the Wheel' got its name from the 'tick tock' of a >car's turning signal.. I believe that's in the song :) My LP lists that song as Turning OFF the Wheel.' I always loved OR. Call me crazy, but it brings back good memories of being in college, seeing them in '88, etc. A couple years ago I saw some skater on TV doing her thing to 'Marrakesh.' I was impressed. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 3:17 pm Subject: RE: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Merrick, Nigel' Hi Dano I may be interested in the logostype CD if still available... how much you asking? Thanks Nigel > ---------- > From: tadream@c...[SMTP:tadream@c...] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 1998 4:42 AM > To: tadream@c... > Subject: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to > majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -------- > Really-From: DJS > > > Hey fellow folks...I have a few Cd's I want to launch because I have > some extras. If you need these just email me quick...first come first > served. They are: > > Buckaroo Banzai-OST (now's your chance Banzai fans!) > Tangerine Dream-Man Inside > Tangerine Dream-Logostype > Assault On Precinct 13 OST (Carpenter) > Tangerine Dream-soundtrack for fantasy > Tangerine Dream-collected endings > Michael Hoenig-Xcept One > > > Rock on dream pilgrims! > > Dano > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 3:30 pm Subject: RE: Suggestions... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >So... I have some opinions of my own, but I'd also like some suggestions >from you all for those TD tracks that you feel 'go somewhere' (i.e. 'kick >some butt'). I don't want to forget any really good ones. Also, he's not >opposed to my use of a boot if it fits the bill... keep in mind I don't >have too many of these. Hey, that's an interesting thread! I'd suggest Pergamon, Logos, Encore and maybe Le Parc. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11952 Re: Suggestions... Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 4:07 pm Subject: Re:Dano man inside ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Hey Dano, How much for man inside ? Thanks Steve sriser3600@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 4:34 pm Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek > Really-From: Rainer Rutka > > Really-From: DJS > > > Tangerine Dream-Man Inside > > Tangerine Dream-Logostype > > HI DANO ! > > YES PLEASE ! > > I WANT !!!!!!!!! Reserve it for me !!!! Hey, funny thing happened to me yesterday. I was calling somebody in Berlin yesterday from USA and by mistake I called Rainer Rutka. Nice guy to talk to, even though he lives in Konstanz, not Berlin. Strange.. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 5:36 pm Subject: for td fans that speak spanish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jupe Sorry for not write in english , but I have news for TD fans that speak Spanish. Tengo algo interesante en castellano para los amantes de TANGERINE DREAM escribirme a mailto:jupe@c... y os lo comentare ampliamente. DREAM ON !!! JUPE -- ***************************************************** * La PAGINA de TANGERINE DREAM de JUPE * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/home.htm mailto:jupe@c... * New SWAP List 2.0 , write me !!!!! * Nueva Lista de CAMBIO 2.0 , escribeme !!!!! * http://www.ctv.es/USERS/jupe/trade.htm mailto:jupe@c... ***************************************************** Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11954 Re: for td fans that speak spanish DJS Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11955 Re: for td fans that speak spanish Sean Montgomery Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11958 Re: for td fans that speak spanish TWeibre361 Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 5:43 pm Subject: Re: Suggestions... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Craig Cordrey 01383 821921 >Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' > > Hey, that's an interesting thread! I'd suggest Pergamon, Logos, >Encore and maybe Le Parc. How about 1. first 25 minutes of Logos 2. Cloudburst Flight from Force Majeure 3. Song of the Whale (both parts) from Underwater Sunlight 4. Alchemy of the Heart from Tyger 5. Invisible Limits from Stratosfear 6. Bent Cold Sidewalk from Cyclone 7. Virtually Fields from Dream Mixes If he doesn't find anything there to please him, I guess he'll never be a TD fan. ------------------------------------------------------------- Craig R. J. Cordrey craig.cordrey@g... Senior Software Engineer 01383 821921 x8262 GEC-Marconi Radar and Defence Systems Simulation and Training Division Donibristle, Fife, Scotland ------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 6:03 pm Subject: Luminous Visions ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Gerardy OK so here's the video part, nobody better than me at this has done it yet so... The video is divided into 11 'tracks' as follows: 1) The Conception 2) Sea Dance 3) Exponential Growth 4) Hyperkinetic 5) Perceptual Fusion 6) Focal Point 7) Spherical 8) Liquid Life 9) Morphological Inception 10) Exotica 11) Artificial Life Trip Each piece uses one of the TD pieces and the 12th audio track plays over the end credits. Modern era TD works quite well as the soundtrack for this animated video, but it is a plus for the video not for the music. The pieces are faded in and out fairly tastefully if you aren't primarily listening to the music or aren't familiar with the music. It wasn't butchered, but I did notice. Overall I liked it, but I like that sort of thing. I also own 'The Mind's Eye', 'Beyond The Mind's Eye', etc. and have a long standing interest in computer graphics and animation. My recomendation is, don't buy it for the TD, but if you want to watch some eye candy to TD go for it. --tom (Major Tom? :-) np: Peter Schilling - The Different Story (World of Lust and Crime) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 7:42 pm Subject: Re: for td fans that speak spanish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: jupe > > Sorry for not write in english , but I have news for TD fans that speak > Spanish. > > Tengo algo interesante en castellano para los amantes de TANGERINE DREAM > > escribirme a mailto:jupe@c... y os lo comentare ampliamente. > > DREAM ON !!! > > JUPE > *********************************** Okay Eli, now translate that for us!! Heh heh. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11955 Re: for td fans that speak spanish Sean Montgomery Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 6:47 pm Subject: Re: for td fans that speak spanish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > Tengo algo interesante en castellano para los amantes de TANGERINE DREAM > > > > escribirme a mailto:jupe@c... y os lo comentare ampliamente. > Okay Eli, now translate that for us!! Heh heh. Basically, it just says that he has some interesting news about TD, and that you should e-mail him for further details. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 2:07 pm Subject: Re: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 12:06 PM 3/11/98 -0800, you wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >Alas, this is right. Dan is perhaps longer. But, unfortunately, he's also >'pencil*dick.' >I'm a little shorter than Dan, but you know what they say about us stocky >guys, hehe. OK guys! Enough with the sword fight! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 7:06 pm Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Schuelke Hi, I'm interested in these: Tangerine Dream-Man Inside Tangerine Dream-Logostype Can you make me a offer? Think have no chance to be the first because the time difference to germany.... Regards -- _______________________________ EVERY MAN DIES, NOT EVERY MAN REALLY LIVES. _______________________________ Michael Schülke braveheart@a... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 7:45 pm Subject: Re: for td fans that speak spanish ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361 In a message dated 98-03-12 13:43:13 EST, you write: << > Sorry for not write in english , but I have news for TD fans that speak > Spanish. > > Tengo algo interesante en castellano para los amantes de TANGERINE DREAM > > escribirme a mailto:jupe@c... y os lo comentare ampliamente. > > DREAM ON !!! > > JUPE > *********************************** Okay Eli, now translate that for us!! Heh heh. Dano >> 'i have something interesting in spanish for td lovers...write to jupe@c... and i will comment expansively' ill pass it on to the list when i get it... tom w np: renegade soundwave in DUB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 7:46 pm Subject: Re: Name Dropping ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Michael Fox > > >Alas, this is right. Dan is perhaps longer. But, unfortunately, he's also > >'pencil*dick.' > >I'm a little shorter than Dan, but you know what they say about us stocky > >guys, hehe. > > OK guys! Enough with the sword fight! ^^^^^^^^^^^^ Wot? Don't you mean *cockfight*? ROTFLMAO E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 8:08 pm Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' >Really-From: Michael Schuelke > >Hi, I'm interested in these: Can you make me a offer? Michael (and others): Do us a favour and DO NOT post sucha stuff on the list, would you please ? Dano wrote: >If you need these just email me quick... This means that you should have sent your email directly to him off-list. IIRR there was another Kraut posting his full lengthy trade list here, doh ! Mmh, every two month such a *reminder* is to be found here, just wondering. Thanks for the bandwidth Krauthead Yense From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 9:12 pm Subject: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' I've been listening to this track fro the past 3 months and have become not even a bit tired of it! In fact, right now, it's on repeat for the past 2 1/2 hours and I have not tired of it at all! I usually put the track on right when I go to bed, but even then, it keeps me up for the real awesome organ/guitar ending segement. I'd gladly buy a CD with 2 or three songs like this--I wish TD did lengthy tracks like this one again! Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11962 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' SRiser3600 Thu 3/12/1998 2 KB 11964 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' Vincent Goudreault Thu 3/12/1998 3 KB 11969 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' Greg Heil Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11982 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' Plumer, Scott Fri 3/13/1998 2 KB 11998 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' AOutland Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12003 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' Greg Heil Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12006 Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' Marcel Engels Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 9:54 pm Subject: Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 lol i like this I have two friends charles and thomas in good ole Shreveport, LA one of the truly boring towns in America.. They have a tape that is 3 min. of rubycon at half speed that repeats over, and over and over................and over... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 9:54 pm Subject: Sorry Dave ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA My apologies to you Dave, for perpetuating the Titanic thread and anything else that doesn't pertain to Tangerine Dream in one aspect or another. I will, from now on, keep my thoughts and opinions to myself. Anybody need the software for mIRC?....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Mar 12, 1998 10:11 pm Subject: Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > I've been listening to this track fro the past 3 months > and have become not even a bit tired of it! > In fact, right now, it's on repeat for the past 2 1/2 > hours and I have not tired of it at all! > I usually put the track on right when I go to bed, > but even then, it keeps me up for the real > awesome organ/guitar ending segement. > I'd gladly buy a CD with 2 or three songs > like this--I wish TD did lengthy tracks like > this one again! > > Greg H. Welcome to the club. C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 1:58 am Subject: Re: FS&T: Rare CD's..get em while they last ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' > > >Really-From: Michael Schuelke > > > >Hi, I'm interested in these: Can you make me a offer? > > Michael (and others): Do us a favour and DO NOT post sucha stuff on the list, > would you please ? > > Dano wrote: >If you need these just email me quick... > > This means that you should have sent your email directly to him off-list. > IIRR there was another Kraut posting his full lengthy trade list here, doh ! > > Mmh, every two month such a *reminder* is to be found here, just wondering. > > Thanks for the bandwidth > > Krauthead Yense I have to agree...If I see a public post and it's about a personal trade..I'll have to ignore it. Also, if you send me an email at SC about something personal I'm not going to be very happy about it (& neither are the guys who answer all our mail order questions)...so please keep your questions coming to my personal address when it concerns something I post here UNLESS I tell you to email Super Collector with info. Thanks dudes! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 1:18 am Subject: Re: Which Muscians have you met? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-09 15:35:57 EST, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Craig Shipley' I met Edgar Froese, Paul Haslinger and Ralf Wadephul after the '88 concert in DC. I made the mistake of telling Edgar that I liked the music >> I do not understand what you mean here? Do you mean you don't like the music? Or did he proceed to bend your ear longer than you had planned? Actually, I would really be interested in knowing what comments he did make. Also, how did you get lucky enough to meet them? How does somebody go about doing that? We heard one interesting report about getting backstage during the European tour. Would love to hear more about your experience. And anyone else's too for that matter. 8-) Dell np: Lvx Nova: local band makes good, signs with Miramar: only e-musician I've met Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11970 Meeting TD Sean Montgomery Fri 3/13/1998 5 KB 11973 Re: Meeting TD Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 6 KB 12007 Re: Which Muscians have you met? Francisco Salgado C. Sat 3/14/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: A Frank Elana Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:21:33 -0400 >Subject: Re: Franke Apology >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Mark Fonda > >I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. She *is* subscribed to the tadream list, is she not? (I gotta admit, I'm amazed that she hasn't defended herself, here.) -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11971 Re: A Frank Elana Apology DJS Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11974 Re: A Frank Elana Apology Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11987 Re: A Frank Elana Apology DJS Fri 3/13/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:35 am Subject: Re: Suggestions... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ROGER HELLIWELL' >Really-From: 'Tom Richmond' >So... I have some opinions of my own, but I'd also like some suggestions >from you all for those TD tracks that you feel 'go somewhere' (i.e. 'kick >some butt'). I don't want to forget any really good ones. Also, he's not >opposed to my use of a boot if it fits the bill... keep in mind I don't >have too many of these. > >Also, any suggestions of other quality EM would be appreciated. > >You may respond to me privately or to the list. Once I get the tapes done, >I'll post the track lists for your amusement, so you can all tell me where I >went wrong. ;-) > >Thanks! > >Tom Richmond >trichmnd@e... > > Hey Tom, For tracks that 'go somewhere', how about: 'Towards the Evening Star' from Goblins Club 'Firetongues' or 'Death of a Nightingale' from Turn of the Tides 'Song of the Whale' Part 2, from Underwater Sunlight or 'Tangram Set 2'? Roger. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:32 am Subject: Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > lol i like this > I have two friends charles and thomas in good ole Shreveport, LA > one of the truly boring towns in America.. > They have a tape that is 3 min. of rubycon at half speed that repeats over, > and over and over................and over... I would wear something like that down so far that the tape would begin to melt! It would be my only glimpse of 'Rubycon' I'd have.. I bet the locals would be think'n they are a bit strange in the head! Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:28 am Subject: Meeting TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Actually, I would really be interested in knowing what comments he did make. > Also, how did you get lucky enough to meet them? How does somebody go about > doing that? Believe it or not, it's not hard. TD seems to like making opportunities for their fans to meet them at their shows. For the 1988 tour, the old Tangerine Dream International Fan Club let it be known that its members would be welcomed backstage if they displayed their Membership Card. Sure enough, when the show was over, Silver (of the TDIFC) ushered a group of fans backstage, where the band eventually met with us. Edgar was being beseiged by the media, so I didn't get to speak to him. I made a point of shaking his hand though. Andy Summers (the opening act) was playing piano at the back of the room. and no one was bothering him. Ralf was standing off to one side of the room, looking a bit ill at ease. I didn't get the impression he could speak English very well. And I had just found out an hour before the show that Chris was no longer with the band, so I was a bit disappointed with this dour character who lacked cool Frankian shades. Paul was quite approachable though. Unfortunately, I didn't have anything intelligent to say, beyond commending his piano playing, and the band's ability to recover from the blown transformer which had shut down the show midway through the second set. I was a geeky 17 year old in the presence of my idols, and the ability to make conversation had deserted me. Paul actually got singled out for most of the fan abuse. One woman informed him that her daughter had a crush on him. Another fan was showing him an illustration they had done based on the TD logo. Eventually, I got all of their autographs and snuck out. By the 1992 tour, the TDIFC had folded. All the same, I hung around after the show, grasping my copy of Quinoa as proof of my True Believer status. And sure enough, in a few minutes the band emerged to greet the fans. They seemed to be a bit rushed though. Edgar looked tired...and without media types around, he had to cope with all the fan attention. I didn't get to say anything to him that time. Jerome, Linda and Zlatko all signed Quinoa for me (Jerome seemed amused that I had brought a copy of it). They were all very personable. Zlatko seemed to genuinely appreciate my positive review of his guitar playing, understandable since the Toronto show was the first of the tour...and everyone was a bit nervous. At any rate, they all hustled away rather quickly, but not before we were all given a signed photo of the band by a woman I would later learn was Monica Froese. Anyway, that's my 'meet the band' story. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11973 Re: Meeting TD Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 6 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 6:31 am Subject: Re: A Frank Elana Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: Steven Feldman > > >Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:21:33 -0400 > >Subject: Re: Franke Apology > >From: tadream mailing list > >Really-From: Mark Fonda > > > >I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. > > She *is* subscribed to the tadream list, is she not? (I gotta > admit, I'm amazed that she hasn't defended herself, here.) > > -- Steven Feldman She has better things to do, like talk to Franke for a few seconds on the phone, eat chocolate muffins and make gourmet brewed beer. Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11974 Re: A Frank Elana Apology Mike Livsey Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 4:15 pm Subject: Re: What is EUROCK/Archie Patterson's Problem? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:42:00 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' Hey E-man! Guess what I'm burning right now...Works II (inside joke, the TD list can ignore this babble...) > > >> Really-From: Vic Rek >> >> >> once or twice a year. I get prompt service. But I have one secret >> about the postage. I call him up, reserve the items, never fill out his >> order form (where it tells you how to calculate the postage), and then I >> enclose the postage I deem appropriate for the order. Last time I >> ordered 2 CDs, threw in $3 for postage and in a week I had my CDs > I'm an even bigger dick. I just send Archie a memo that says 'please invoice me for....' and he comes back with a price that usually waves the incidental charges. Ranjit's the same. You can use their 'official' order forms and ding yourself with 'handling fees' and insurance charges. Or, have them fill out all the paperwork for you and see what price they elect to charge. Obviously, you can't do this until you get to know them, and they get to know you... As for reliability, Archie's only screwed up one order in a dozen or so. He screwed up a fairly complex order where I was paying partly with a money order I had hanging around along with putting a down payment on the KS JE on my Visa; he dinged my credit card for the wrong amount for the down payment (I think it was $175 instead of $50). He called me to let me know of his error, waived any shipping charges for my current order, reduced my remaining balance on the KS JE, and guaranteed me a signed copy of JE instead of one of the unsigned copies that I was previously getting. For me, I couldn't care less about the discrepancy since it was a cash flow issue on $300+ CD set. Not a bad trade, though I couldn't care less if KS signed his limited editions.... Ranjit screwed up once and invoiced me for two CD's that he no longer had by the time I paid him (I was a month or so before I got around to paying him). He credited me for the missing CDs but later got his hands on them and sent them to me (on my permission), waiving any shipping/handling charges. The moral or the story is that these guys aren't perfect; they're just trying to eek out an existence like anyone else. However, being independents, you can haggle all you want with them if you've established a rapport... >Actually, I only have one beef about Archie (you're a cool guy, Archie, >don't worry!): the fact that since he commands a $50 minimum purchase when >using a credit card, he adds another $2 *processing* fee. So, let's say I >order four $15 CDs. That's $60, plus his $4 postage plus $2 'handling' plus >another two bucks because I'm using a VISA. As a vendor, he can set his >guidelines, but you should only have a $50 minimum OR a $2 'processing fee' >(which I've heard is illegal). I would have ordered more stuff with credit >card from the Arch-man, but this pretty much discourages me. Anyone else >have any thoughts on the matter? > >E-Man As you probably know, credit card companies require vendors to ante up a fair amount of cash to the credit card company in order to use their card, and to cover defaults. A friend of mine had to ante up 10K+ for his credit card processing ability. Plus, the card companies charge a percentage on the sale. Archie 'could' do like most companies and bump the price up by the credit card overhead and 'optionally' offer a rebate for people who pay with cash, but he's elected to ding credit card shoppers directly instead. Either way, it results in the same thing. When was the last time you went into a CD store and they offered you a discount for using cash... -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 4:47 pm Subject: Re: Meeting TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:28:31 -0800 (PST), you wrote: >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > > > >> Actually, I would really be interested in knowing what comments he did make. >> Also, how did you get lucky enough to meet them? How does somebody go about >> doing that? > >Believe it or not, it's not hard. TD seems to like making opportunities >for their fans to meet them at their shows. > >For the 1988 tour, the old Tangerine Dream International Fan Club let it >be known that its members would be welcomed backstage if they displayed >their Membership Card. Sure enough, when the show was over, Silver (of >the TDIFC) ushered a group of fans backstage, where the band eventually >met with us. Edgar was being beseiged by the media, so I didn't get to >speak to him. I made a point of shaking his hand though. Andy Summers >(the opening act) was playing piano at the back of the room. and no one >was bothering him. Ralf was standing off to one side of the room, looking >a bit ill at ease. I didn't get the impression he could speak English >very well. And I had just found out an hour before the show that Chris >was no longer with the band, so I was a bit disappointed with this dour >character who lacked cool Frankian shades. Paul was quite approachable >though. Unfortunately, I didn't have anything intelligent to say, beyond >commending his piano playing, and the band's ability to recover from the >blown transformer which had shut down the show midway through the second >set. I was a geeky 17 year old in the presence of my idols, and the >ability to make conversation had deserted me. Paul actually got singled >out for most of the fan abuse. One woman informed him that her daughter >had a crush on him. Another fan was showing him an illustration they had >done based on the TD logo. Eventually, I got all of their autographs and >snuck out. Hmmmmm...I was back stage at the Toronto concert as well...unless TD blew up their transformer at every show as some kind of special effect... ;-))) I guess you didn't notice the guy who wanted to go over and beat Andy Summers to death with a nail riddled baseball bat for such a sh*tty performance. I thought about yelling out 'boring!' during one of Andy's pieces, but I refrained myself since I didn't think that would be appropriate. I was so naive then! ;-) I DID give him a really cold stare part way through which caused him to smash one of his gongs and yell 'yeah!' in fear... ;-) Paul was a pleasent fella'. I had a brief chat with him after the show. Actually, I was more busy/interested in talking with some of the support people to find out what the hell happened during the show. As many know, they imploded during the second set with a power outage to their sequencers...uh I guess they were playing as well... For me, the TD 88 tour was three guys stepping on stage and pressing 'play' on their respective computers... I also found about Franke's departure only minutes before the show. It was a major bummer that kind of set the tone for the entire evening. It was the last TD concert I attended. Regards. -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 5:36 pm Subject: Re: A Frank Elana Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:31:25 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS >> >I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. >> >> She *is* subscribed to the tadream list, is she not? (I gotta >> admit, I'm amazed that she hasn't defended herself, here.) >> >> -- Steven Feldman > > >She has better things to do, like talk to Franke for a few seconds on >the phone, eat chocolate muffins and make gourmet brewed beer. > >Dano You must be clairvoyant or something since she hurled your ass off of Goldtri months ago. Yet... somehow, you still seem to have an appreciation for what's going on over there... :-) Who could be your informant; I wonder... -- Mike Livsey 'A woman is a lot like a beer; they smell good, they look good, and you would step over your own mother just to get one. But you can't stop at just one; you wanna drink another woman.' --Homer J. Simpson From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 8:25 am Subject: (no subject) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Geir Eilertsen unsubscribe tadream Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11976 Re: (no subject) Elias Granillo, Jr. Fri 3/13/1998 2 KB 12339 (no subject) DAVENTURA Thu 3/26/1998 2 KB 13129 (no subject) Steve Jenkins Sat 4/18/1998 3 KB 15502 (no subject) paul todd Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15506 Re: (no subject) Plumer, Scott Tue 4/6/1999 1 KB 15526 (no subject) J. Lee Jolley Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15527 Re: (no subject) TJames0001@xxx.xxx Wed 4/7/1999 1 KB 15528 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB 15529 Re: (no subject) Joel Mullen Thu 4/8/1999 1 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 8:57 am Subject: Re: (no subject) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Geir Eilertsen > > unsubscribe tadream C-Ya, dude. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 10:21 am Subject: Eurock! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'ashok prema' As I am Eurock/Archie Pattterson stocks Champagne Lake releases, I was interested in S. Feldmans complaints and copied it to Archie.....omitting SF's name ............his reply is interesting - even if it may not give a full answer - it's fair to see his point of view in this open arena Sorry - its long: Ashok, I would say thanks for this email, but honestly it only depresses me to read such nastiness. I do not subscribe to such lists as this kind of garbage goes on way too much. I know who this guy is - Steven Feldman. He bought 2 Bargain Bin CDs (all items in the BB were 1 copy only items, offered at a special low price). He sent me about 10 emails asking questions and trying to get me to drop my prices, etc. I am very surprised at the nasty tone of what he writes. He seemed a bit of a pain, but I very clearly explained my policies, my way of doing business, and reasons why, then ultimately gave him the option of canceling his order (this whole email process went on for 2-3 weeks). I held the CDs for him and could have sold them 2 or 3 times to other more thankful customers. He finally said he understood and sent payment. Needless to say it was a pain dealing with him and now to read this makes me wish I wasn't in the business for all these years. Someone slanders me and I can do nothing. Some thanks I get... Enough comment. For your information, Ranjit is a computer programmer who does all his mailorder work in spare time and has a job where he makes alot of $$$$. It is possible now he ahs stopped doing it because of all the problems he was having due to long delays in orders, etc. The Minette Music guy has a normal job (he used to have a record store but it went out of business). His wife makes alot of $$$ so it's a hobby for him. Eurock is my only job for the last 15+ years, promoting this music is both a passion and job for me for 25 years now. I get much support form customers and artists, and only occasionally does someone call me names. You can't please everybody. Enough on this before I do quit the business... Archie A. Patterson / EUROCK P.O.B. 13718 Portland, OR USA 97213 http://www.eurock.com -----Original Message----- From: ashok prema To: Archie Patterson Date: Thursday, March 12, 1998 2:48 AM Subject: Bad press! >Hi Archie, >You've been getting a bad press of late on the TD Digest - in case you >haven't monitored here's one of them: > >When I sent for my copy of The Nightcrawlers' TRAVELING BACKWARDS >CD, Archie sent me a copy of EUROCK's December catalog. Then, he sent >me a copy of EUROCK's January catalog, but he sent it in February, so >that when I wanted to order five items from the catalogue's close-out >and remainder listings, three items were gone. I bitched about this. > I also bitched about not being able to send him money in advance >for CDs that were pending arrival--something I had done with Minnette >Music *twice* (one time was for DREAM ROOTS and the Italian magazine >with 'Quasar' and the fifteen-minute version of 'Catwalk'). > I also bitched about the fact that it costs about $8 postage for >just two f**king CDs ($2 for postage, $4 for packaging and handling, >and $2 for insurance, fer chrissakes). > I told him to skip the insurance and paid $6 postage for the two >CDs I wound up getting from him, adding my own proviso--that he ship >the CDs in a box rather than a f**king padded mailer (the cause of more >jewels cases than I can name). He didn't. Laughing Boy did not comply, >even though one of the items did not come in jewel case but a fragile >cardboard printed sleeve--which, of course, came bent. :( What a >limp-dick! I just sent a copy of Eno's MUSIC FOR THE WHITE CUBE to >someone--in a box, with a shitload of bubblewrap without insurance-- >for just $3. And I had received $115 for this CD! I mean, come on: >I send for two CDs from Eurock, at $10 apiece, and it costs me $26, >but I send out one myself in an 8.5 x 11 box filled with bubblewrap >and it comes to only $3??? > And now you say that EUROCK has DIGITAL GOTHIC? I wish Laughing >Boy had mentioned that to me before I put my order in. And yet, since >the (import) CD with the cardboard printed sleeve came bent, I wouldn't >count on his packaging sent-for items any better in the case of an >(import) book. > What's weird is that EUROCK has been around for about 15 years-- >and Ranjit sure as shootin' doesn't charge out the caboose to process >one of *his* orders--so why the nasty prices? :( > > >Cheers > > >Ash > Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11988 Re: Eurock! DJS Fri 3/13/1998 5 KB 11993 A New Source (was Re: Eurock!) John M. Poer Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 12:23 pm Subject: Butt ugly woofs ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: spidey Ellias wrote: >You think Kate Winslet is plain-looking? I'm beginning to wonder about you >guys, haha, with all the attention you're giving Leonardo!!!!!!!! What's >next? Gorgeous babes like Salma Hayek & Jennifer Connelly are butt-ugly >woofs? Mmmmmm, Saaaalmaaa! :P Oscar From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 12:33 pm Subject: Re: Meeting TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 well I would have liked to meet them but I didn't. My two friends Charles and Thomas met them in New Mexico when the Live miles cd was recorded, and got thier autographs on the back of old tickets that we all had for a concert in Baton Rouge LA in 1976. the concert was cancelled but we kept out tickets. They thought it was really strange LOL Stig Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11983 Re: Meeting TD Plumer, Scott Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 11986 Re: Meeting TD DJS Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB 12037 Re: Meeting TD matt knudson Mon 3/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 12:43 pm Subject: Re: silver scale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marko Eriksson' ---------- > From: tadream mailing list > Newsgroups: uwp.maillist.tadream > Subject: silver scale > Date: 9. maaliskuuta 1998 4:02 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: Nick.Adams@C... > > > please please please help me, its driving me mad what album is silver > scale from and how do i get it. > nick > Silver Scale is from album Tangents (5 cds and booklet). The songs in Tangents are new versions from Virgin years. Silver Scale has been also released in (illegal) bootleg album called Space Trucking, but it hasn´t name then and now in Tangents it has been named as 'Silver Scale'. Hopefully you understand what I mean?!? Marko From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:07 pm Subject: TD on the radio ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' Whilst driving yesterday afternoon I heard Cloudburst Flight on a local college radio station. How cool! They also played Radioactivity by Kraftwerk, a couple other KW tunes I don't remember, and some other stuff as well. If anyone's interested, the show runs from 12:30-3 pm EST Thursday and is called The Fruits of Rich Genius. The station is 89.3 FM, WCSB. They also broadcast on the 'net via Audioactive. Their site is at http://www.wcsb.org. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 19935 TD on the radio twosheds Mon 12/20/1999 1 KB 36687 TD on the radio Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media glennfolkvord Wed 10/16/2002 4 KB 36809 Re: TD on the radio vic rek kyivmission Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36810 Re: TD on the radio John Vertical omegatransfinito Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36813 rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Roy Teale Wed 10/23/2002 3 KB 36814 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) Matthew Sawyer matthewsawyer Wed 10/23/2002 2 KB 36815 Re: rip entire disk to mp3 as one track (slightly OT) quarlie@a... Quarlie Thu 10/24/2002 2 KB 36816 Re: TD on the radio Glenn Folkvord - Hyperion Media glennfolkvord Thu 10/24/2002 3 KB 36817 Re: TD on the radio braddito braddito Thu 10/24/2002 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:26 pm Subject: RE: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I've been listening to this track fro the past 3 months Wow, you must be exhausted! That reminds me, I saw a guy yesterday with a backpack that had the brand name Coldwater Canyon. They should sell those at TD concerts! Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 2:33 pm Subject: RE: Meeting TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >By the 1992 tour, the TDIFC had folded. All the same, I hung around after >the show, grasping my copy of Quinoa as proof of my True Believer status. >And sure enough, in a few minutes the band emerged to greet the fans. When I saw them in '92, we waited around outside the venue for about 90 min. with about 20 other people. The temperature was about 20 degrees F. After all that waiting, a security guard came out and said they wouldn't be signing autographs, but they gave us all autographed pictures of them. It's the same picture that was used on the cover of the Dreaming on Danforth Ave. boot. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 4:39 am Subject: Calling Dano ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Coppens Sorry for this offtopic, Dano did you get my messages concerning EO ? I've sent several (both to the store and your personal email), but no replies... tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 11:39 pm Subject: Kraftwerk Tour Dates 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hkraft@c... (Hilmar Kraft) Well, if TD isn't gonna tour this spring, at least you may want to check out Kraftwerk this summer (and please, no thread on why Kraftwerk sucks and TD are the greatest or vice versa!) 03.06.1998 Japan-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 04.06.1998 Japan-Tokio - Akasaka Blitz 07.06.1998 USA-San Francisco, CA - Warfield Theatre 08.06.1998 USA-Los Angeles, CA - The Palladium 10.06.1998 USA-Chicago, IL - Riviera Theatre 11.06.1998 USA-Detroit, MI - State Theatre 13.06.1998 USA-New York, NY - Hammerstein Ballroom 25.06.1998 Denmarl-Roskilde - Roskilde Festival HK From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 6:21 pm Subject: Re: Meeting TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Hmmmmm...I was back stage at the Toronto concert as well...unless TD > blew up their transformer at every show as some kind of special > effect... ;-))) > Heh, thats funny, The SAME thing happened at the 88 show Eli & I saw in San Diego. Perhaps it's a cover up for when their tape ran out to early. > I guess you didn't notice the guy who wanted to go over and beat Andy > Summers to death with a nail riddled baseball bat for such a sh*tty > performance. I thought about yelling out 'boring!' during one of > Andy's pieces, but I refrained myself since I didn't think that would > be appropriate. This is also heeelarious. Eli & I were watching his boredom as well, counting sheep, waiting for TD. Did anyone notice he just stood there & hit foot pedals with his feet, activating pre-programmed garbage, barely playing over what he actuivated? Bleh. I think Eli & I pissed off a few people by making 'zzzzz' noises. Next time you need a cure for insomnia..go to an Andy Summers concert. Dan-o From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: Re: A Frank Elana Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998 22:31:25 -0800, you wrote: > > >Really-From: DJS > > >> >I probably will get bounced from the GT list once Elana catches wind. > >> > >> She *is* subscribed to the tadream list, is she not? (I gotta > >> admit, I'm amazed that she hasn't defended herself, here.) > >> > >> -- Steven Feldman > > > > > >She has better things to do, like talk to Franke for a few seconds on > >the phone, eat chocolate muffins and make gourmet brewed beer. > > > >Dano > > You must be clairvoyant or something since she hurled your ass off of > Goldtri months ago. Yet... somehow, you still seem to have an > appreciation for what's going on over there... :-) > > Who could be your informant; I wonder... > -- > Mike Livsey Actually, about 10 guys keep me informed. Eli doesn't even have to send me anything heh. I have spies everywhere...hahahaha...even in the music industry heh heh. So, until another list comes along that is dedicated to synth artists other than TD that doesn't have an ego-tripping, chocolate muffin' eatin' list queen.....(& it's comin folks) I'll bide my time here. Cheers pilgrims, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 6:44 pm Subject: Re: Eurock! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > Really-From: 'ashok prema' > > As I am Eurock/Archie Pattterson stocks Champagne Lake releases, I was > interested in S. Feldmans complaints and copied it to Archie.....omitting > SF's name ............his reply is interesting - even if it may not give a > full answer - it's fair to see his point of view in this open arena > Sorry - its long: > > Ashok, > I would say thanks for this email, but honestly it only depresses me to read > such nastiness. I do not subscribe to such lists as this kind of garbage > goes on way too much. > > I know who this guy is - Steven Feldman. He bought 2 Bargain Bin CDs (all > items in the BB were 1 copy only items, offered at a special low price). He > sent me about 10 emails asking questions and trying to get me to drop my > prices, etc. > I am very surprised at the nasty tone of what he writes. He seemed a bit of > a pain, but I very clearly explained my policies, my way of doing business, > and reasons why, then ultimately gave him the option of canceling his order > (this whole email process went on for 2-3 weeks). I held the CDs for him > and could have sold them 2 or 3 times to other more thankful customers. He > finally said he understood and sent payment. Needless to say it was a pain > dealing with him and now to read this makes me wish I wasn't in the business > for all these years. Someone slanders me and I can do nothing. Who slandered him?? It was true! Some thanks > I get... Enough comment. > For your information, Ranjit is a computer programmer who does all his > mailorder work in spare time and has a job where he makes alot of $$$$. It > is possible now he ahs stopped doing it because of all the problems he was > having due to long delays in orders, etc. The Minette Music guy has a > normal job (he used to have a record store but it went out of business). His > wife makes alot of $$$ so it's a hobby for him. Eurock is my only job for > the last 15+ years, promoting this music is both a passion and job for me > for 25 years now. I get much support form customers and artists, and only > occasionally does someone call me names. You can't please everybody. > Enough on this before I do quit the business... Oh no Arch! Don't quit! What would we do without your selection of 25 titles! I tell you, I'm tempted to start my own e-music mail order, as an extention of Super Collector, just to finally please all of these e-music fans who can never get good service or find good e-music. > Archie > A. Patterson / EUROCK Now, I have to complained about this, being in the business of mail order CD's to a MUCH larger degree than Archie. I would say Ash owes Steven an apology. I mean, how obvious to Arch it was Steve that wrote the letter...even after you took his name out...and to send Arch the flame without asking Steve was, IMO, uncalled for & uncool. I certainly wouldn't want my mail forwarded to a business I complain about unless I'm the one sending it to them myself. Not critisizing you Ash, but it might be better, as a courtesy, to ask before forwarding something volatile like that without asking the author. JMO, of course. Regards, Dan Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11993 A New Source (was Re: Eurock!) John M. Poer Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 5:42 pm Subject: [Fwd: Life's Little Insurrection Book] Hope you enjoy it! From: Samuel Reyna Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 3:24 pm Subject: Life's Little Insurrection Book To: Recipient List Suppressed:; Life's Little Insurrection Book A guide to help improve yourself...and only yourself. by Seth Kaplan and A.J. Byrd Whenever you get in a fight with your family and tell them how much you despise and hate their hypocritical, fascist, old-world ways, never forget to tell them that it doesn't mean you don't love them. When life seems to get much too hectic, go deer hunting. You'll be amazed how relaxing it is to toy with mortality. Never use drugs. You can benefit and profit tenfold by selling them to friends who are unfamiliar with the market prices. Threaten someone you love at least once a day. Love the place you are living so much as to overthrow the corrupt, hypocricy-ridden government that is oppressing you, the working proletariat, for their own selfish purposes and that deserves to have its members hanged from your mother's oak tree. Sometimes, in difficult situation, it's best to tell the person you're feuding with, 'And now you must die.' Tape your parents in the hospital. If you go to confession, at least once a month you should add 'And I'm not sorry, dammit!' When you're angry, don't take it out on loved ones. Practice self-control through self-mutilation. Nature was put here to do a job. Man can do it better. If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you ever tried. If that doesn't work, kill all those involved and bury them in abandoned mineshafts. Life is a sport. Go on strike. Always remember: you can erase what you write, but you can't always do the same to the witnesses. Remember that an enjoyable job is the key to a fulfilling life. So is bribing the top officials and crushing those underneath you, all for personal gain. Early to bed and early to rise leaves a man without a social life of any kind, yet still tired and grumpy come morning. Balance is everything; hence, the Antichrist. Bring surgical gloves to business meetings. You can never tell just when a full body cavity search will be necessary. Show respect for all living things. Give them a proper funeral after you kill them for the pure joy of it. In a touchy break-up, sometimes it's just better to remember the good times with the person you loved and to tell them, 'I was using you for sex.' Never attribute to malice what can be attributed to sheer, blinding stupidity. This goes double for family members. Never cook with drugs: the potency is lessened greatly during the cooking process. Whenever you're feeling down, it helps to read the classics, like Mien Kampf or The Communist Manifesto. The underdog never stays under for long. Make it a habit to read the obituaries every day. It's always refreshing to hear yourself say, 'Yep, they're dead and I'm not.' Returned borrowed cars with the gas tank full...of sugar. At least once a week, call a person, greet them, and then remain silent for the rest of the conversation. Positive thinking can change your life: it's not a senseless waste of human life, it's a broadening of the food supply. Birdbaths are a source of free, natural joy, especially when filled with alka-seltzer. Love all children. In the event of a nuclear holocaust, you'll want to be on good terms with them - they'll be the only uncontaminated food supply. If it doesn't fit, use a bigger hammer. If that doesn't work, sue the hammer's manufacturer. No matter what anyone tells you, letters of complaint do no good. Mail bombs are much more direct. When you are on your deathbed, think of your children, your family, and all the organizations that could use your inheritance. Then burn it. Remember: life is too short for anger. A cold, calculating revenge is much more efficient, and much more fun too. Take a warm bath with your spouse during the winter. Then, while they're still in the tub, toss in the microwave. Count your blessings. Then get more. Wage war against littering, ignorance, and the evil capitalist government that is oppressing you and your compatriots. Whenever you find yourself seething with jealousy due to another's possessions, take them by force. No matter what, your parents will always love you. This is a fact that is easily exploited. Thou shalt not commit adultery; thou shouldst break up the marriage first. Conduct family fire drills. Get a bottle of lighter fluid, a pack of matches, and teach the family to 'stop, drop, and roll.' sam reyna, visual arts & technology... sreyna@a... s.a.college, a.c.c.district... 1300 san pedro avenue, s.a., tx 78212.4299... voice 210 . 733.2101...fax 210 . 733.2987... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: REPEAT REPEAT: German cf US Version ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 07:07:13 -0500 (EST) >Subject: Re: German REPEAT REPEAT LP >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Vic Rek > >>Really-From: Steven Feldman >> I bought a German pressing of Peter Baumann's REPEAT REPEAT album >>(for $1.00!) yesterday, and noticed two differences from its American- >>issued counterpart: >> >> o instead of a green border on the front and back cover, there is a >> purple cover >> >> o after about the third track, the rest of the tracks on the album >> are in a different order. > >> Do *you* know about and/or have this pressing of this album, Vic? > >First of all - good deal! I don't have the German copy and no mention in >'Voices in The Dunes' of different track listings. I'm curious as usual. Okay, here's the story. I took a look at the relevant listing in VOICES and it turns out that both the US and the German copies of REPEAT REPEAT have the same track order and track times--but, for some reason, the tracks and their corresponding lyrics (for Side Two, anyways) are are given in the wrong order on the back of the German LP. Have a look: Track Listing from US LP: Track Listing from German LP: SIDE ONE SIDE ONE Repeat Repeat Repeat Repeat Home Sweet Home Home Sweet Home Deccadance Deccadance Realtimes Realtimes M.A.N. Series Two M.A.N. Series Two SIDE TWO SIDE TWO Brain Damage Daytime Logic Kinky Dinky Brain Damage Daytime Logic Kinky Dinky Playland Pleasure What is Your Use? What is Your Use? Playland Pleasure -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Keep on KEEPin' On! ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 22:53:44 EST >Subject: Re: Molasar, Molasar; VOICES IN MY HEAD ;) >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: DAVENTURA > [Re THE KEEP LP from 1984, Dave said:] >Steve, It DOES exist. I am absolutely positive of this fact. Please >don't ask me how I know this, I won't tell you. [. . .] Verrrrrry interesting. X-0 ;) >[. . .] 'Keep' looking, you'll find it. Would you like me to see if I >can find another copy for YOU? Is there a finders fee? *Another* copy?!? This implies that you've already found one for someone else! (Think about it: that's really the only way that the sentence, 'Would you like me to see if I can find another copy for YOU?' can be interpreted.) Yes, by all means, see if you can find me another copy of it! :) And yes, there is a finder's fee. How does $50.00 sound? (After all, I gotta save my dough for the cost of the album itself!) -- Steven Feldman ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'Through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unidentified flying objects are nonsense. To hide the facts the Air Force has silenced it personnel.' --Admiral Roscoe H. Hillenkoetter, the 1st director of the CIA, quoted in THE NEW YORK TIMES, February 28, 1960. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 9:01 pm Subject: Re: Macula Transfer+Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Florine Epure' tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' > > >Really-From: Andy Bloyce > > > > >Macula Transfer (Original) 13.99 > >Macula Transfer (Remixed/Remastered Version) 9.29 > > > >The saga continues ... There are now two versions of this CD scheduled for > >release ... The first is the “original” mix that is coming from Germany > >(due end Feb) and the second version in early spring from the UK and this > >issue is seemingly remixed and remastered by TD. This Froese solo LP sounds > >closest to T-Dream’s mid-70’s music. > > Hhmm, remixed and remastered smells a bit like Tangenized to me. > If it's true then I definitely know which version I'll buy. > > Marcel > Music-page :http://home.wxs.nl/~m1engels > Email :fsp@w... I need same info for the Ages CD - is it identical to the Ages LP or is it tangentized? Florin. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11994 Re: Macula Transfer+Ages Vincent Goudreault Fri 3/13/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 8:58 pm Subject: A New Source (was Re: Eurock!) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' At 10:44 AM 3/13/1998 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: DJS > >Oh no Arch! Don't quit! What would we do without your selection of 25 >titles! I tell you, I'm tempted to start my own e-music mail order, as >an extention of Super Collector, just to finally please all of these >e-music fans who can never get good service or find good e-music. > >Dan > Dan, YES! Please DO start your own. Then we would have a really GOOD source of TD from someone who actually cares about the group. And you're 'local'!!! You will get my business. jp 'I may be old, but I know what I like!' From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Mar 13, 1998 9:14 pm Subject: Re: Macula Transfer+Ages ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vincent Goudreault tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: 'Florine Epure' > > tadream mailing list wrote: > (...) > > I need same info for the Ages CD - is it identical to the Ages LP or is it > tangentized? It is the same, except that one track is missing on the CD. C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 2:44 am Subject: Re: A New Source: Super EM! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'John M. Poer' > > At 10:44 AM 3/13/1998 -0800, you wrote: > >Really-From: DJS > > > >Oh no Arch! Don't quit! What would we do without your selection of 25 > >titles! I tell you, I'm tempted to start my own e-music mail order, as > >an extention of Super Collector, just to finally please all of these > >e-music fans who can never get good service or find good e-music. > > > >Dan > > > Dan, > > YES! Please DO start your own. Then we would have a really GOOD source of > TD from someone who actually cares about the group. And you're 'local'!!! Well, I'm discussing this with the guys at SC so we'll see. We have a lot of connections to the e-music, video game music and soundtrack producers so you can count on the fact that if we do start a new EMMO service it will simply be the best. Just so you know I'm not just ranting I would like to acknowledge that we've recently put out Claudia Christian's (Babylon 5) 2 song single titled, Taboo, for her (woo hoo! the cover is HOT too!). This month will see our release of the soundtrack to Krull by film composer James Horner in it's entirety (2-CDs) for the first time ever. We have some VERY interesting projects in the works I can't mention yet but e-music fans have waited for a specific electronic soundtrack to be put on CD for over 16 years, and we're working on getting it out as soon as we can. We're hoping to work with Franke on some special editions of B5 releases as well. Since Eli has expressed interest in a quarterly newsletter for Super EM (nothing big...just a small NL noting worthy e-music out there & a current list of neat stuff available from the mail order e-music catalog) I'll leave the CD reviews & soforth to him (since he's the writing major). If you are an electronic music wholesaler and you are reading this, please feel free to contact me at supercollector@s... with your catalog of WS items. Also, if you are an independant musician (hey Grant, Paul, Riley!) forward me your info and I'll add it to my catalog. NO new age inquiries please...you can find Tesh, Yanni or Enya at any target, KMart or Walmart. This will be mostly UK/German e-music scene. Sorry Mr. Roach, you can keep playing your zimbabwe flute in Australia..you won't be in our catalog heh heh. Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 12014 Re: A New Source: Super EM! Dave Brewer Sat 3/14/1998 4 KB 12038 New Info on Infinite Horizons Brian E. Kirby Mon 3/16/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 1:46 am Subject: Re: Kraftwerk Tour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600 Saw the list today for Kraftwerk tour dates WHEW>>> Guess they will be really tired after such a long tour. what is it 9 shows, Glad I saw them back in 75 in New Orleans The 'Autobaun' tour Steve Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11999 Re: Kraftwerk Tour Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB 12000 Re: Kraftwerk Tour tangram Sat 3/14/1998 4 KB 12002 Re: Kraftwerk Tour TWeibre361 Sat 3/14/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 2:48 am Subject: Re: Suggestions... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-12 09:43:22 EST, you write: << His only stipulation was that the music 'go somewhere' as opposed to 'meandering about'. I believe you all get his drift. So... I have some opinions of my own, but I'd also like some suggestions from you all for those TD tracks that you feel 'go somewhere' (i.e. 'kick some butt'). >> Definitely I would recommend LiveMiles. Also Tangram, Logos. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 3:01 am Subject: Re: 'Coldwater Canyon' ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland In a message dated 98-03-12 16:51:32 EST, you write: << I've been listening to this track fro the past 3 months and have become not even a bit tired of it! In fact, right now, it's on repeat for the past 2 1/2 hours and I have not tired of it at all! >> I will usually record a favorite track at the beginning of a tape so that I can instantly push the return button to play it over again in my car. I did this so much to this track that I wore the tape out without hardly hearing the rest of it. Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 6:10 am Subject: Re: Kraftwerk Tour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > Saw the list today for Kraftwerk tour dates WHEW>>> > Guess they will be really tired after such a long tour. what is it 9 shows, ^^^^^^^^^ Yeah, they'll really be in serious physical condition after such a gruelling tour, haha. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm referring to the roadies hauling around their equipment and driving the rig(s) and bus, not KW themselves! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Mar 14, 1998 6:44 am Subject: Re: Kraftwerk Tour ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: tangram hi tadreamers! just wanna say hi to all of u as i just joined the list... sriser3600 could you be more specific as to where excactly did u see those dates? i myself saw them for the very first time on Doepfer site but they were removed from there on the next day! later i emailed Doepfer and they told me that KW changed their minds as to posting the dates and demanded that they be removed! ciao! tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: SRiser3600 > > > > > > Saw the list today for Kraftwerk tour dates WHEW>>> > > Guess they will be really tired after such a long tour. what is it 9 > shows, > ^^^^^^^^^ > > Yeah, they'll really be in serious physical condition after such a > gruelling tour, haha. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm referring to the roadies hauling > around their equipment and driving the rig(s) and bus, not KW themselves! > > E-Man