From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 1:45 am Subject: D:Schroyder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek Since this list has been quiet about Steve, I'll at least post a general discography of his. This list does not include 3 cassettes that he released prior to any of these works (as far as I know). Anyway, I really enjoy Steve's music. His later style is techno/trance while the earlier releases are quite diverse (electronic, meditative, ambient). My favorite is the Inter Planetary Ambience and the Phänomene Strk. Good stuff, but not like TD. STEVE SCHROYDER (AKA STAR SOUNDS ORCHESTRA) (1970-1971): Stars Sounds & Colors (Klänge Bilder Welten) - Germany Musicvision Simon + Leutner CD 051, 2 CDs w/booklet, 1990 Best of Augenstern (Augenstern) - Denmark Fønix FMF CD 1050, 1991 Planets - Denmark Fønix FMF CD 1051, 1991 Sun Spirit of Cheops - Germany Simon + Leutner SLCD 553, 1992 Kosmophonon - Germany CMS/Edel 4U 903012, digi-pak, 1992 Phantastische Phänomene Strk. - Germany CMS/Edel 4U 903029, digi-pak, 1992 Hommage À Albert (Acid Test) - Germany Simon + Leutner SL CD 00556, digi-pak, 1993 I.C.P. (I Call Peace) - UK I.T.P. AEOS 010, 12” EP single w/3 versions, 1995 Inter Planetary Ambience (Live in London) - UK I.T.P. AEOS 001CD, 2 CD, 1995 SkyDancing Tantra: A Call to Bliss (Margo Anand & Vinit Allen) - US SkyDancing SKY1, 1995 Psy*Force - Germany Spirit Zone 025 EFA 02875-2, digipak, 1997 His music is not easy to find. If you are really looking for something, drop me a note and maybe I'll be able to help. Also 'Beyond the Horizon' publishes sources for obtaining his music. Vic Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10505 Re: D:Schroyder Vic Rek Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:08 am Subject: Re: tape trees ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... I'm just curious about what kind of quality a leaf would get. I am thinking about copier machines. The first copy looks pretty good, but by about the 8th copy from the 7th copy from the 6th, etc a lot of dust collects to create a spotty copy. Of course, in my opinion, something is better than nothing and I would be glad to get whatever I could get. Just curious what it would be is all. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:25 am Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-01-29 21:25:19 EST, you write: << Apologies to my friends on this list that may differ, but I really don't want to see this list cluttered with tape tree discussions. >> i agree with everything u said and say in ur conclusion...but, once it gets rolling, it becomes second nature...believe me, on the floyd list they say tape tree and two weeks later u have ur tapes...no fuss, no mess...its just something that has to develop and become routine...what has always suprised me of this list was that there wasnt a structure in place already...but enough, ur right...there seems to be some semblance of interest now, and when we start, hopefully itll be a one liner... tom w np: plaid - john peel 98 From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:01 am Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 12:57 AM 1/29/1998 -0800, E-Man wrote: > >I was just wondering....since TD are (presumably) playing the Palace on 4/1 >(hope I'm not missing some inside joke with that date), who on this list >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) >Angel(e)s concert? I would hafta, if no venue is close to Birmingham, say, Atlanta. That way I could kill two birds with one stone, since my dad is bitching that I haven't seen him in 3 years. BTW, I am approximately Edgar's (and David Gilmour's, Jean Michel Jarre's) age. Since we are talking about birthdays. :-) Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:56 am Subject: Re: D:Schroyder ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jeffrey Au-Yeung' Really-From: Vic Rek STEVE SCHROYDER (AKA STAR SOUNDS ORCHESTRA) (1970-1971): Stars Sounds & Colors (Klänge Bilder Welten) - Germany Musicvision Simon + Leutner CD 051, 2 CDs w/booklet, 1990 Does anybody have the _video_ of the above double CD?? I remember seeing it at a record shop in Frankfurt few years ago. Did not get it and never saw it again... Jeffrey From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:01 am Subject: Beyond The Horizon...an apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS I just wanted to publicly apologize to Brian Kirby for lumping him in with the statements I had made earlier this week regarding BTH. Brian's a cool reliable guy & he's not one of the people I was referring to when I made my statements concerning BTH. Rock on big Bri! Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10626 Re: Beyond The Horizon...an apology Sturminatr@a... Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10636 Re: Beyond The Horizon...an apology AOutland@a... Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 1:34 pm Subject: Re: East Berlin '81 & Kiew Mission ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 22:37:16 +0100, you wrote: >> >My nice color-copy also has that long-haired lady, standing >>above the >> >group. She is 'guarded' by 1 or 2 men (must check) with guns. >> >Strange, but fantastic performance, although it would be better >>if they >> >left the orchestra out, IMO. >> >> Guns?!?!? Maybe it was meant to be an ironic joke, since the >>song is supposed to be about world peace. I hope so! > > >Yes, it was part of the perfomance. > >Marcel > The piece showed up on the 'Tapetrax' b**t along with a semi-orchestral version of Mojave Plan. Wierd. -- Mike Livsey mlivsey@n... Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, The courage to change the things I can and The wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they really ticked me off!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 1:37 pm Subject: Re: Apologies to Dano! (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:41:33 -0600, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > >A while back, in a fit of temper, I posted some remarks that >could have been construed to cast aspersions on Dano's character. >Although that was certainly NOT my intent, the mere fact that I >lost my temper demands an apology. > >I want to go on record to having said publicly that Dano's > word is as good as gold. I have positive proof >that he delivers exactly what he promises, when he makes promises. > >My apologies to you, Dano. I am eating crow big time. > >There! I've said it. Now I feel better. > >Kind regards to all, > >Andrew Good, now go say the same thing on Goldtri. Heh, heh! Regards. -- Mike Livsey mlivsey@n... Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, The courage to change the things I can and The wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they really ticked me off!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 1:43 pm Subject: Re: Apologies to Dano! (off topic) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 01:32:43 -0800, you wrote: >Well, thanks for the kind words Andy but no one on this list needs to >apologize for anything. Skepticism is good, for it can keep one from >being ripped off. Also, I wanted to thank everyone on the list for >giving Eli and myself a little room to be humorous at times. Though we >act like kids once in a while we're quite professional with what we do >most of the time. Unfortunately, we aren't truly as young as many on >this list might think. I just turned 29 today and I still feel like a >kid...but I know I'm not, heh. So, thanks to everyone who, unlike other >certain wanna-be-e-music list owners (& no....I ain't talkin' bout >Captain Cool As Ice Dave), tolerate our off the wall humor at times, >even if it does make you cry instead of laugh. ;-) > Hmmm, there's 'gold' in that advice. I seriously hope that people will 'tri' to get along.... -- Mike Livsey mlivsey@n... Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, The courage to change the things I can and The wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they really ticked me off!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 6:47 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > >I was just wondering....since TD are (presumably) playing the > Palace on 4/1 > >(hope I'm not missing some inside joke with that date), who on this list > >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > >Angel(e)s concert? > > I would hafta, if no venue is close to Birmingham, say, Atlanta. > That way I could kill two birds with one stone, since my dad is > bitching that I haven't seen him in 3 years. Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! The same goes for you too (two), Vic R. and Bob G.! We can stack up some Corona and Dos Equis bottles before going to the show! (Boy, that'll *really* improve the TD experience, hahahahaha)....how about Mr. Livsey? btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX (ow, stop shooting rubber bands at me, dude, I was just kidding!!!!!!!!) E-Man > BTW, I am approximately Edgar's (and David Gilmour's, Jean Michel > Jarre's) age. Since we are talking about birthdays. :-) > > Andrew Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10513 Re: TD Live '98? Andrew J. Rozsa Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:25 pm Subject: Re: Happy B-Day, Dan-o! Waay off-topic! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) On Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:52:24 -0800, you wrote: > >Yowza! I forgot! Happy birthday, you old fart! Haha! (Okay, I'm >27....somewhere between, er, Greg Heil and Edgar Froese, haha!). If anyone >needs help visualizing what Dan looks like, imagine Eric Clapton (with his >trademark Clapton-style 5-day old growth) with a buzzed head, and you're >getting close! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Okay, Dan, go ahead and rip me apart! > Hmmm...sounds like one of the bad guys in Robocop. Does Dan look like this character before or after he gets covered in toxic waste? ;-) Perhaps the one of the bad guys in Diva. 'Je n'aime pas les automobiles...'. Sorry, I'm rambling... -- Mike Livsey mlivsey@n... Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, The courage to change the things I can and The wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they really ticked me off!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Wed Jan 28, 1998 10:17 am Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel >Interesting! I think some of the C4 music is really good. Especially the >song played when the background story is being told while showing the >broken headstone of the Count. The delayed organ sequences and strings >that are a little mellotron-ish remind me of some of TD's finest moments. > Dave 'Bellmont' :-) When I first heard the opening to 'At Darwin's Motel' the first thing that popped into my mind was Castlevania 4, listen those first 5 seconds and compare it with the opening song of the first level of C4, if I remember correctly the instrument is the same and the pattern of the notes is almost identical. I even played that song for a friend who's a SNES nut and the first thing he thought of was Castlevania 4 too ;) -Scott (pretty certain he's remembering correctly...) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10545 Re: Castlevania 4 & TD feldon@p... Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:37 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' At 10:47 PM 1/29/1998 -0800, E-Man wrote: >> >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) >> >Angel(e)s concert? I just noticed you didn't use the full name of the city. Repeat after me: El Pueblo De La Reina De Nuestra Senora De Los Angeles Del Rio Porcincula :-) :-) >Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! Absolutely! You kidding? A TD concert would not be real for me unless I had some of the tadream gang grinning right next to me. > >btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX Why not? LAX is about half-way between Fountain Valley and Brentwood (where my folks live). :-) Andrew From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:43 am Subject: US Tour-ra-loo-ra-loura Is the U.S. tour still on? I haven't seen any venues go on sale yet or even mention it... -- Anil Prasad aprasad@i... Innerviews Magazine: Music Without Borders http://www.innerviews.org VCard
< aprasad@i...> Innerviews: Music Without Borders http://www.innerviews.org Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10922 Re: US Tour-ra-loo-ra-loura AOutland@a... Sun 2/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:58 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > >> >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > >> >Angel(e)s concert? > > I just noticed you didn't use the full name of the city. Repeat after me: > > El Pueblo De La Reina De Nuestra Senora De Los Angeles Del Rio > Porcincula > > :-) :-) HAHAHAHA That's killer, man! :-) :-) :-) :-) > >Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! > > Absolutely! You kidding? A TD concert would not be real for me > unless I had some of the tadream gang grinning right next to me. Especially Dan's grin....you know Dan kinda resembles Satan with that goatee of his...I wonder why the tentative title of Dan's first Cd is 'Music For Exorcisms'? (ow...stop it! *Dan putting my head in vise like Joe Pesci did to that guy in 'Casino'*)!!!!! > >btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX > > Why not? LAX is about half-way between Fountain Valley and > Brentwood (where my folks live). :-) Didja hear that, Dan! Fountain Valley! Taxi! Taxi! (FV is where the Super Collector store is located). E-Man np: Vitalij Kuprij 'High Definition' (Vitalij is only 22, but he plays keys like Rick Wakeman!) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:11 am Subject: Re: Oasis video ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: esanborn@B... (Erik Sanborn) > > One side note for those looking for this video in retail outlets like > Tower. If you shake your head in dismay at the way TD and other e-music > artists get categorized into 'New Age' or some other non-descriptive bin, > you may have a fit when it comes to finding videos such as Oasis. I > managed to find ONE copy wedged between a bunch of dumb music videos > from that *%$#&@! annoying UK band of the same name. Just shoot me. X-P It would be much better if we *shot* the Gallagher brothers, so they'll stop releasing albums (and so *that* won't happen again :-) E-Man Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10519 Re: Oasis video Dennis Nigbur Fri 1/30/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:28 am Subject: Haslinger sez ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' A classic quote from Paul Haslinger: 'The people I admire the most are the ones who are sitting at home with just a Casio SK-11, let's say, doing music that sounds so great that I'm ashamed. I know people who own a Synclavier just for the reputation, because they wouldn't get any jobs if they didn't. These are the two extremes, and the Casio guys really frustrate me, because they are doing such good music.' Page 112, KEYBOARD MAGAZINE, Nov. 88 ('Technological Vision: Tangerine Dream...15 Years On The Cutting Edge'). Elias Granillo, Jr. upnsm0ke@g... 'We don't like to be styled, we like to freak out.' PAUL HASLINGER, 1988. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 9:56 am Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > >Interesting! I think some of the C4 music is really good. Especially the > >song played when the background story is being told while showing the > >broken headstone of the Count. The delayed organ sequences and strings > >that are a little mellotron-ish remind me of some of TD's finest moments. > > Dave 'Bellmont' :-) > > When I first heard the opening to 'At Darwin's Motel' the first thing > that popped into my mind was Castlevania 4, listen those first 5 seconds > and compare it with the opening song of the first level of C4, if I > remember correctly the instrument is the same and the pattern of the > notes is almost identical. I even played that song for a friend who's a > SNES nut and the first thing he thought of was Castlevania 4 too ;) > > -Scott (pretty certain he's remembering correctly...) You are sure right, the score you refer to is the Castlevania theme.. and since the themes in a way mix between the game and CD, it's possible TD might have heard this track somewhere. I think TD was the first to sequence the organ sound, and that has a mainstay in the game's music. But it's the perfect soundtrack, I can listen to the short tracks over and over; I'm quite sure the composer was influenced by TD. One track starts with a piano solo which is very acoustic, then a array of synth comes in, with that cool analog sounding brass synth, with flutes, and other wind instruments and organ sounds. Although simplistic and the game itself is from 93, the sound is great. I played a recent Castlevania on a more advanced system, and the music, although good, had switched to a more 90's e-guitar style. Now all I need is to get my brother on Guam to send me the Castlevania music CDs!!! Greg H. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 11:41 am Subject: Re: Oasis video ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Dennis Nigbur On Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:11:50 -0800 tadream mailing list wrote: > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > It would be much better if we *shot* the Gallagher brothers, so they'll > stop releasing albums (and so *that* won't happen again :-) > > E-Man Might not be a bad idea. I remember a friend of mine who asked me if 'Tangerine Dream' was their new album! Someone on the list suggested that they should place Oasis on the 'Oasis' shelves in the Xmas sales, to increase their profits. Not a bad idea. A similar thing happened to me when I was playing 'Rubycon' and had the CD case lying on the table. A friend of mine who is into Indie music asked me if that was the group 'Rubycon'/'Rubicon'? Something like that. I've never heard of them, but I felt a bit insulted. Dennis From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:27 pm Subject: Re: Oasis video ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: esanborn@B... (Erik Sanborn) >Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' > >On Jan 29, 10:03am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Oasis video > Really-From: esanborn@B... (Erik Sanborn) > > Just a quick note to say that I finally picked up a copy of the Oasis > video (about $18, at Tower Records) and highly recommend it to anyone >(...) > >Erik, > >does it say anywhere on the box if this video is available on Laser Disc? > >I assume this is a Miramar/Camera One production, right? It doesn't say *much* on the box. The front side simply says 'Oasis' and there's a sticker in the upper left that says 'Music by Tangerine Dream.' Almost as if an afterthought. The back side credits say something like, 'photography: _______' (I forget the name) and 'music: Tangerine Dream.' Then there's the copyright notice. There's so little information that someone at Camera One decided to put a small sticker on the back side that says, '45 mins., hi-fi stereo.' That's it. This video is a Camera One release. There is no mention of Miramar anywhere. I assume that they are separate companies and do not have a business relationship. Cheers, Erik From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:40 pm Subject: RE: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >I still think that for this list, the best way to obtain TD live music is >just to contact the people that are active on this list for information. I'm Uh, er, um, I think I agree with him. Once I understood how the tree worked, my first reaction was 'What's the point?' Trading one-on-one seems easier. >quite sure that soon you will get to know the people that can provide you >with the shows you want at a reasonable trade/compensation and without all >the hassle with dealing with a tree. In the long run, you will get what you Yes, and I'm one of them. My collection isn't quite as large as Lars' (Large Lars?:-) or Klaus', but, uh. . . I don't know, I'm always happy to help out trading newbies. I don have lots of other stuff besides TD, so if anyone's interested, contact me off list. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:51 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' >>> >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) >>> >Angel(e)s concert? > >I just noticed you didn't use the full name of the city. Repeat after me: > > El Pueblo De La Reina De Nuestra Senora De Los Angeles Del Rio >Porcincula So this is the name of where I was born? I wonder if it will fit on my passport? Anyway, sorry guys, but I will have to pass on the TD 4/1 show. I've already done my share of travelling the last year. But I'll be in LA this summer so we'll hook up then I hope. So I guess you'll just have to relay the experience (and a tape) to me. Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:59 pm Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' While we're on the subject, anyone planning to go to DC? I was planning on driving from Cleveland and sleeping in my van (if the wife lets me have it, otherwise I'm snoozing in the VW!) Perhaps we could meet up early Saturday and take in a few sights, knock back a few local brews. . Scott NP: deadradio.com From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:50 pm Subject: animal logic ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean Actually the group with Stewart Copeland, Stanley Clark(e), and Deborah Holland was called Animal Logic, not House of Love, though that was one of their hits... Truly a great pop act...too bad they have done more than the two CDs.. MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:58 pm Subject: If TD comes to US, I'm going! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean If TD does actually come to the US (and doesn't include Chicago), I intend to make it to at least one show... Fortunately for me some of the dates correspond with my Spring Break... Don't know which ones I would consider yet though... MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:00 pm Subject: MINIMOOGS! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean I just saw a blurb in a music magazine stating that new Minimoogs are now available for $1500.00 at www.moogmusic.com. Apparently they tracked down all the original parts manufacturers and had them make new parts to the original specifications. Oooooohhhhhh!!! MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:10 pm Subject: RE: Oasis video ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Hi Gang, When it first came out I called Camera One to order and inquired about the chances for a laser reease. The saleslady said they had no current plans for a laser release and if they did, it would be after they stopped selling the videos themselves and sold off the rights . I think with the current amount of computer animation dvds out there, not to mention the canyon dreams re release on dvd and the various other wilderness dvd's I've seen this is a better bet. If canyon sells well , and with Planetary Travelor and the forthcoming TD scored animation coming out who knows? Chris NP Tangents CD#4/ #5......Man I love Flashpoint! ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 9:27 AM To: tadream@c... Subject: Re: Oasis video ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: esanborn@B... (Erik Sanborn) >Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' > >On Jan 29, 10:03am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Oasis video > Really-From: esanborn@B... (Erik Sanborn) > > Just a quick note to say that I finally picked up a copy of the Oasis > video (about $18, at Tower Records) and highly recommend it to anyone >(...) > >Erik, > >does it say anywhere on the box if this video is available on Laser Disc? > >I assume this is a Miramar/Camera One production, right? It doesn't say *much* on the box. The front side simply says 'Oasis' and there's a sticker in the upper left that says 'Music by Tangerine Dream.' Almost as if an afterthought. The back side credits say something like, 'photography: _______' (I forget the name) and 'music: Tangerine Dream.' Then there's the copyright notice. There's so little information that someone at Camera One decided to put a small sticker on the back side that says, '45 mins., hi-fi stereo.' That's it. This video is a Camera One release. There is no mention of Miramar anywhere. I assume that they are separate companies and do not have a business relationship. Cheers, Erik From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:10 pm Subject: 'Kiew Mission' live ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: John Burek <72241.2313@c...> Scott P said: >> My tape collection isn't exhaustive, but that seems to be the >>only show at which it was played. It was a one-off, a 'Free Concert for >>Disarmament and World Peace,' held at the Palast der Republik. >> Of course, if you had my book you'd know all that already. :-) >> Scott Hey Scott, Actually TD played 'Kiew Mission' live a lot, all in 1981 as far as I can tell from tapes--it was usually the first encore for the shows of the 1981 October British tour, and it was also played during the Munich 12/81 concert broadcast on German TV (that's the only time it was played live with vocal accompaniment). They also played at the one-off Gelsenkirchen 11/81 concert. John From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:27 pm Subject: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' Just for grins, check out the newsgroup 'rec.music.newage'. There's a discussion spawned from the question why Bauman left TD... Some interesting opinions include: * Froese is a raving egomaniac who only has his son in the group because he knows he'll suck up to him. * Franke's symphonic work is where TD *should* be musically. * Robert Palmer is responsible for Bauman's demise after _Transharmonic Nights_. Makes me appreciate this list even more... - jim 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10531 Re: rec.music.newage Vincent Goudreault Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10539 Re: rec.music.newage Colin Knowles Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10544 Re: rec.music.newage Jim Moore Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10553 Re: rec.music.newage DJS Fri 1/30/1998 4 KB 10554 Re: rec.music.newage DJS Fri 1/30/1998 4 KB 10557 Re: rec.music.newage Sean Montgomery Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10563 Re: rec.music.newage Jim Moore Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10568 Re: rec.music.newage new 5.1 protocol Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10575 Re: rec.music.newage Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:20 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >While we're on the subject, anyone planning to go to DC? I was planning >on driving from Cleveland and sleeping in my van (if the wife lets me >have it, otherwise I'm snoozing in the VW!) Perhaps we could meet up >early Saturday and take in a few sights, knock back a few local brews. . If they don't come anywhere closer to Atlanta, I'll be going to D.C. It'll give me a chance to visit my 1st Alma Mater (USNA) while I'm there... Hey! Maybe Clinton could get me date for the show! (Perhaps I shouldn't have set that...) - jim 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 3:53 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Jan 30, 10:27am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: rec.music.newage > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > > Just for grins, check out the newsgroup 'rec.music.newage'. > There's a discussion spawned from the question why Bauman > left TD... Some interesting opinions include: > > * Froese is a raving egomaniac who only has his son in the group > because he knows he'll suck up to him. > * Franke's symphonic work is where TD *should* be musically. > * Robert Palmer is responsible for Bauman's demise after > _Transharmonic Nights_. > > Makes me appreciate this list even more... Get even with them: start a flame war as to which one is better, Yanni or John Tesh. 8-) C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:14 pm Subject: For the record ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AslanFan1@a... Stewart Copland, Stanley Clarke and Deborah Holland formed the band, Animal Logic and released 2 cds on the IRS label, and they're some of the best pop/rock tunes I have (Over 800) -Alan From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:14 pm Subject: Re: tape trees ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-01-29 22:52:40 EST, you write: << I'm just curious about what kind of quality a leaf would get. I am thinking about copier machines. The first copy looks pretty good, but by about the 8th copy from the 7th copy from the 6th, etc a lot of dust collects to create a spotty copy. Of course, in my opinion, something is better than nothing and I would be glad to get whatever I could get. Just curious what it would be is all. 8-) Dell >> if worked correctly and assuming the source is a master, the worst ull get is 3rd generation... tom w np: dubnology 2 - lost in bass From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:10:10 -0500 you said: >Subject: RE: Oasis video >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > >[. . .] If canyon sells well , and with Planetary Travelor and the >forthcoming TD scored animation coming out who knows? Er, I haven't really been following this OASIS thread, so . . . what's 'Planetary Travelor' and this 'forthcoming TD scored animation' you're talking about? -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10552 Re: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Ani Steven Feldman Fri 1/30/1998 4 KB 10559 Re: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Ani Steven Feldman Fri 1/30/1998 5 KB 10572 Re: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Ani TangerineC@a... Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:40 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 09:57:21 EST, you write: << While we're on the subject, anyone planning to go to DC? I was planning on driving from Cleveland and sleeping in my van (if the wife lets me have it, otherwise I'm snoozing in the VW!) Perhaps we could meet up early Saturday and take in a few sights, knock back a few local brews. . >> why dont u come to nyc the night b4? tom w sp: gerd From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:39 pm Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 09:37:48 EST, you write: << Uh, er, um, I think I agree with him. Once I understood how the tree worked, my first reaction was 'What's the point?' Trading one-on-one seems easier. >> it is one-on-one trading...look at it this way: i have a master of some show...the call goes out who wants to join? the tree gets structured...im the source...i send one copy to the east coast branch, one copy to the midwest branch, one out west and one to europe...those people are the branch leaders...i trade with those people...they send to their leaves and make their trades...were done...the branch leaders will usually be different so u get to meet new friends! discover new worlds! get new stuff! how many times can u trade with the same person without getting new stuff? whatever, tom w np: gerd - this touch is greater than moods From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Hi, Since someone brought up comparing Yanni to John Tesh (a sobering thought, to be sure), I thought I'd ask what the concensus here is re the three TD clones with 'Wave' in their names. Specifically, I mean: o Waveform o Waveshape o Wavestar I have never heard anything by Waveform. I just know that they are a German group. I have Waveshape's first album, SIGMA, and I thought it was a cold, barren TD retread which brought to my mind the outcome of if Kraftwerk did a TD homage. (Why do you like this album, Lars?) I only have Wavestar's first album (on vinyl), MOONWIND, but it is really pretty good, overall: sort of like GREEN DESERT meets STRATOSFEAR meets EXIT. Of particular note is the track, 'Cabala,' which I think has one of the best melodies I've ever heard in an e-music composition. So, how about a vote re how folks here would rank these guys, along with, say, Radio Massacre International, Node, Redshift, and Synco (can anyone think of any TD clones/casualties I've left out?) on a 1-to-5 scale? For example, I would vote thusly: VOTE BAND NAME ---- --------- ? Node* 4 Radio Massacre International 5 Red Shift 2 Synco* ? Waveform 2 Waveshape 4 Wavestar* *indicates a band which is -- for better or worse -- now defunct. Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; INTERNET: , and BITNET: DREAMS WORD: Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, c/o Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. PERSONAL FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, Jonn Serrie, Robert Carty. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE WRONG! | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10538 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Steven Feldman Fri 1/30/1998 2 KB 10584 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Larry E Smith Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB 10598 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Mark Fonda Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10600 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Jens Peschke Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB 10640 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar PhilPDX@a... Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10785 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Gibbons, Conrad Wed 2/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman Whoops. I forgot to mention one other TD clone: The Nightcrawlers. (How could I forget *them*? They're in my *sig*, fer crissakes!) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 5:03 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > Just for grins, check out the newsgroup 'rec.music.newage'. > There's a discussion spawned from the question why Bauman > left TD... Some interesting opinions include: > Some..interesting opinions on there to be sure.. Did you see the Ambient Monkeys:Worst TD album ever thread? Colin From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 5:11 pm Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >If they don't come anywhere closer to Atlanta, I'll be going to D.C. It'll >give me a chance to visit my 1st Alma Mater (USNA) while I'm there... >Hey! Maybe Clinton could get me date for the show! >(Perhaps I shouldn't have set that...) He's using my van! :-) (Hey, I'm not criticizing him -- she's cute!) Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Tape Tree Opinion--One Word: Filipak ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:45:52 -0500 (EST) >From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) >Subject: Tape Tree Opinion >Really-From: Vic Rek > >First of all, the Shepherd's bush tree went on forever and is still not >complete... All the people in the tree could of had the music at least 6 >months ago if we didn't have to depend on people in the tree. Just because Filipak is a dick doesn't mean that everyone else has to suffer from now to eternity re this Tape Tree business. So Filipak decided to withdraw from the world and took all his TD-related items with him, does that mean that we have to throw the baby out with the bathwater? Don't let one bad apple ruin the whole show. (Boy, I'm just filled with trite expressions, today.) >Apologies to my friends on this list that may differ, but I really don't >want to see this list cluttered with tape tree discussions. I don't either. That's why I made the harsh statements about Filipak that I made: so that folks won't continue to skirt the obvious (i.e. the Filipak Issue) and can just get on with life. (Hey, and if you're reading, this, Mark--which I doubt--you deserve it: it's not like you haven't had ample opportunity to redeem yourself. People have sent you checks to cover return postage and you've blown them off. I lent you tapes over a year ago and have yet to have had anything returned--even though I asked for the tape with the long KEEP ending back. While I have sympathy for your bad state of affairs re your work situation, that's no reason to treat the rest of TD-collector- dom like shit, or worse: like none of us ever existed.) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 5:08 pm Subject: tape trees and live recordings ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hammer1612@a... After skimming thru much of the discussions here recently on the subjects of tape trees and the 'unofficial' live recordings that make these trees up, I thought I'd stick my two cents in the mix. First of all, I agree totally that from the fan's point of view, it is all about the music. I know that the recordings I have made and traded for (purely in theory, of course) have been done for the sheer desire to hear and re-experience a particular show I either attended, or was unable to attend. Such trades usually fuel my desire for more material and, on the rare occasion where I may not have purchased the new release of said artist, I may be convinced to go purchase it after listening to the live version again. So, IMHO, the system works as it is supposed to. Secondly, during the '80s when I was in the music biz, whenever our store had access to purchase such 'unofficial' recordings for resale, we tried to come up with a more palatable name than 'bootlegs'. The term we always used, and I think it really applies to the items being distributed thru the trees, was 'non-commercial releases' or NCRs for short. Just thought I'd throw that one out there for use if you like. Thanks for all the great discussion on this subject. There seems to be a lot of NCR product out there just waiting for us to discover. Who knows, I may even 'discover' a tape or two in my own collection...purely in theory, of course. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: RE: Theissen poll skewed ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:14:32 GMT you said: >Subject: RE: Theissen poll skrewed up >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Armin Theissen > >> Aha! *Now* I see: somehow, somebody f**ked-up and my votes were >>never received!!! No *wonder* the votes were so exasperatingly off! >>These vote numbers have pissed me off for years, and *now* I know why! >>Feh! No smileys from *me*! :( > >Do you mean that you sent in your votes and they weren't included here? Yes. >I thought I made it sure that nobody is missing. Maybe a mail got lost >when I moved to Spain mid 95...their computers crashed a lot. Could be. >If I get the time (what???), I might consider starting a new round. Goodie; then, I can give a '5' vote for THE PARK IS MINE and DEAD SOLID PERFECT! ;) :) -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 5:21 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: Colin Knowles >Did you see the Ambient Monkeys:Worst TD album ever thread? Yes. Particularly interesting was the person who wouldn't buy it based solely on one person's bad recommendation. I almost posted a message saying it was the 'best TD album ever' to see if he would change his mind... I would NEVER base a purchase decision according to someone's recommendation on a newsgroup... You never know if that person has the same tastes as you; who knows? They might like the Spice Girls or something. [Oh no, I did it again!] - jim 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 5:30 pm Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 03:17 AM 1/28/98 -0700, you wrote: >Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel > > >>Interesting! I think some of the C4 music is really good. Especially the >>song played when the background story is being told while showing the >>broken headstone of the Count. The delayed organ sequences and strings >>that are a little mellotron-ish remind me of some of TD's finest moments. >> Dave 'Bellmont' :-) > >When I first heard the opening to 'At Darwin's Motel' the first thing >that popped into my mind was Castlevania 4, listen those first 5 seconds >and compare it with the opening song of the first level of C4, if I >remember correctly the instrument is the same and the pattern of the >notes is almost identical. I even played that song for a friend who's a >SNES nut and the first thing he thought of was Castlevania 4 too ;) You guys MUST get Castlevania for Sony Playstation. The music is top notch. Also, if you have a Turbo Graphix with CD (or you are adventuresome and want to emulate this game on a Pentium) get Dracula X. It's a rare Japanese import game and the music is amazing. Morgan feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Hatred for AMBIENT MONKEYS on rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:03:04 +0000 you said: >Subject: Re: rec.music.newage >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Colin Knowles > >> Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >> >> Just for grins, check out the newsgroup 'rec.music.newage'. >> There's a discussion spawned from the question why Bauman >> left TD... Some interesting opinions include: > >Some..interesting opinions on there to be sure.. > >Did you see the Ambient Monkeys:Worst TD album ever thread? No, but I'd love to see it -- to see if my great dislike of this album is as warranted as I suspect it is. -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10597 Re: Hatred for AMBIENT MONKEYS on rec.music.newag Colin Knowles Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB 10667 Re: Hatred for AMBIENT MONKEYS on rec.music.newag Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:23 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > > >I was just wondering....since TD are (presumably) playing the > > Palace on 4/1 > > >(hope I'm not missing some inside joke with that date), who on this list > > >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > > >Angel(e)s concert? > > > > I would hafta, if no venue is close to Birmingham, say, Atlanta. > > That way I could kill two birds with one stone, since my dad is > > bitching that I haven't seen him in 3 years. > > Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! The same goes for you too (two), > Vic R. and Bob G.! We can stack up some Corona and Dos Equis bottles before > going to the show! > (Boy, that'll *really* improve the TD experience, hahahahaha)....how about > Mr. Livsey? > > btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX (ow, stop shooting > rubber bands at me, dude, I was just kidding!!!!!!!!) > > E-Man Heh, I avoid LA like the plague...I really don't even like going there, even when TD's in town...but I do. As for being captain taxi heh heh, I'll borrow the SC van & we can all pile in and get lost in the city of angels. Has anyone noticed that all of the venues are techno joints? Does this mean that Jerome is going to be lowered out on stage in some giant eggshell & bust out with a portable keyboard like Jan Hammer & do a remix of KW's 'Robots'? Only time can tell... Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10551 Re: TD Live '98? Sean Montgomery Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:37 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > > > > >> >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > > >> >Angel(e)s concert? > > > > I just noticed you didn't use the full name of the city. Repeat after me: > > > > El Pueblo De La Reina De Nuestra Senora De Los Angeles Del Rio > > Porcincula > > > > :-) :-) > > HAHAHAHA That's killer, man! :-) :-) :-) :-) > > > >Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! > > > > Absolutely! You kidding? A TD concert would not be real for me > > unless I had some of the tadream gang grinning right next to me. > > Especially Dan's grin....you know Dan kinda resembles Satan with that > goatee of his...I wonder why the tentative title of Dan's first Cd is > 'Music For Exorcisms'? (ow...stop it! *Dan putting my head in vise like Joe > Pesci did to that guy in 'Casino'*)!!!!! > > > >btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX > > > > Why not? LAX is about half-way between Fountain Valley and > > Brentwood (where my folks live). :-) > > Didja hear that, Dan! Fountain Valley! Taxi! Taxi! (FV is where the Super > Collector store is located). > > E-Man Hey dude...I just saw you a week ago! I haven't had a goatee for well over a year, heh. It's a full Snake Plissken thing going on! Pay attention to my face! Hahaha! And which guy from Robocop do I look like Mike?? Oh man, certainly NOT the toxic waste guy...that guys almost as pretty as Edgar! I'm better looking than any of those guys! Speaking of looks...did anyone notice how girly Jerome looks in the new Dream Music video? He's had that same hairdo forever! We need to bring a pair of shears to LA with us. Dan the dude Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10555 Re: TD Live '98? Sean Montgomery Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:43 pm Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Greg Heil' > > > >Interesting! I think some of the C4 music is really good. Especially the > > > >song played when the background story is being told while showing the > > >broken headstone of the Count. The delayed organ sequences and strings > > >that are a little mellotron-ish remind me of some of TD's finest > moments. > > > Dave 'Bellmont' :-) > > > > When I first heard the opening to 'At Darwin's Motel' the first thing > > that popped into my mind was Castlevania 4, listen those first 5 seconds > > and compare it with the opening song of the first level of C4, if I > > remember correctly the instrument is the same and the pattern of the > > notes is almost identical. I even played that song for a friend who's a > > SNES nut and the first thing he thought of was Castlevania 4 too ;) > > > > -Scott (pretty certain he's remembering correctly...) > > You are sure right, the score you refer to is the Castlevania theme.. > and since the themes in a way mix between the game and CD, it's > possible TD might have heard this track somewhere. I think TD was > the first to sequence the organ sound, and that has a mainstay in > the game's music. > But it's the perfect soundtrack, I can listen to the short tracks over > and over; I'm quite sure the composer was influenced by TD. > One track starts with a piano solo which is very acoustic, then a array of > synth comes in, with that cool analog sounding brass synth, with flutes, > and other wind instruments and organ sounds. Although simplistic and the > game itself is from 93, the sound is great. > I played a recent Castlevania on a more advanced system, and the music, > although good, had switched to a more 90's e-guitar style. > Now all I need is to get my brother on Guam to send me the Castlevania > music CDs!!! > > Greg H. Heck, these things are pretty hard to find, even wholesale. We can't even get them at SC & that's rare when we can't find an anime OST. I was kind of bummed when I got C4 for my PSX. The music didn't have the classic Belmont theme that ran throughout the S-Nintendo versions. The music was still very good, however. Maybe SM will release Dracula-X eventually. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:53 pm Subject: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > > > El Pueblo De La Reina De Nuestra Senora De Los Angeles Del Rio > >Porcincula > > So this is the name of where I was born? I wonder if it will fit on my passport? > > Anyway, sorry guys, but I will have to pass on the TD 4/1 show. I've already > done my share of travelling the last year. But I'll be in LA this summer so > we'll hook up then I hope. So I guess you'll just have to relay the > experience (and a tape) to me. > > Vic And if your lucky Vic, Eli & I will take you down to Thousand Palms where Edgar & Co, frequently hang out, drink Cactus Coolers and ride bikes in the sky. and...what better place to start a thread on....tape smuggling! Let's hear some stories on how anyone here got recorders into venues or stories of having your dong grabbed while they searched you for one. Regards, Dano Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10560 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows Plumer, Scott Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10603 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows Michael Fox Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB 10564 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows TWeibre361@a... Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10571 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows DJS Fri 1/30/1998 4 KB 10577 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows Vic Rek Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10580 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows Elias Granillo, Jr. Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10585 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows DJS Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10596 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows DAVENTURA@a... Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 6:49 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Has anyone noticed that all of the venues are techno joints? > Does this mean that Jerome is going to be lowered out on stage in some > giant eggshell & bust out with a portable keyboard like Jan Hammer & do > a remix of KW's 'Robots'? Only time can tell... Now *that* would be funny. Or Edgar and Jerome in identical silver jumpsuits, wearing welders goggles. Are we not men? No, we are TD. Somehow, I can't quite picture them working the crowd up into a lather, pumping their fists, giving each other high-fives and ooh-ooh-oohing. But it does indicate that Edgar's neo-classicism is taking a backseat to Jerome's electronica influences. I wonder if they'll be cranking up the beats another notch, going full-out dancefloor friendly? SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean ____________________________ As of February 9, 1998: 35 McCaul Street, Suite 200 Toronto, ON Canada M5T 1V7 Phone: 416-971-7711 ____________________________ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:00 pm Subject: RE: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Here I'll let the TD page explain: Edgar and Jerome also just finished some final editing for a score to the maybe most interesting computer animated images you«ve seen so far. The producer of the very successful »Minds Eye« series, Steven Churchill, introduced TD to the Japanese Video and computer artist, Yoichiro Kawaguchi. He was called by the National Geographic Magazine the »Picasso of computer animation«. The 60 min. video of their collaboration will be called »Luminous Visions« and will be out on Sony Music Videos in late January '98. A soundtrack release is also planned. Neat huh? CHris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 11:36 AM To: tadream@c... Subject: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:10:10 -0500 you said: >Subject: RE: Oasis video >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > >[. . .] If canyon sells well , and with Planetary Travelor and the >forthcoming TD scored animation coming out who knows? Er, I haven't really been following this OASIS thread, so . . . what's 'Planetary Travelor' and this 'forthcoming TD scored animation' you're talking about? -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:01 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: Colin Knowles > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > > > Just for grins, check out the newsgroup 'rec.music.newage'. > > There's a discussion spawned from the question why Bauman > > left TD... Some interesting opinions include: > > > > Some..interesting opinions on there to be sure.. > > Did you see the Ambient Monkeys:Worst TD album ever thread? > > Colin Like these poeple have anything to even say....they're still talking about whether Yanni should have gotten with Linda or if crystals generate enough energy to inspire a TD album. BTW, don't forget everyone...Eli IS featured on a John Tesh album hehehehhehe. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:05 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Jim Moore' > > >Really-From: Colin Knowles > >Did you see the Ambient Monkeys:Worst TD album ever thread? > > Yes. Particularly interesting was the person who wouldn't buy it > based solely on one person's bad recommendation. I almost posted > a message saying it was the 'best TD album ever' to see if he would > change his mind... > > I would NEVER base a purchase decision according to > someone's recommendation on a newsgroup... You never know > if that person has the same tastes as you; who knows? They > might like the Spice Girls or something. > > [Oh no, I did it again!] > > - jim > Hey, what's wrong with Spice Girls? I think they are hot! Haha! Err..sorry, my babe just hit me on the head so I have to go.. Dano PS: just pray there is never a Spice Men group. Ug. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10557 Re: rec.music.newage Sean Montgomery Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 6:57 pm Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Did anyone notice how girly Jerome looks in the new Dream Music > video? He's had that same hairdo forever! We need to bring a pair of > shears to LA with us. Now here's *another* idea: Edgar and Jerome could do the Orbital thing, and go bald. Yeah! SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:19 pm Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Thats it! If TD comes, I'm going to LA with Dano and the gang! Let me know! I will fly out there. I was planning to go for my vacation this year anyway and that will cinch it! Chris I hear Jerome is going to have a 30' set of Stonehenge lowered from the ceiling and Lil gnomes are gonna dance round it..... ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 2:23 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > > >I was just wondering....since TD are (presumably) playing the > > Palace on 4/1 > > >(hope I'm not missing some inside joke with that date), who on this list > > >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > > >Angel(e)s concert? > > > > I would hafta, if no venue is close to Birmingham, say, Atlanta. > > That way I could kill two birds with one stone, since my dad is > > bitching that I haven't seen him in 3 years. > > Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! The same goes for you too (two), > Vic R. and Bob G.! We can stack up some Corona and Dos Equis bottles before > going to the show! > (Boy, that'll *really* improve the TD experience, hahahahaha)....how about > Mr. Livsey? > > btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX (ow, stop shooting > rubber bands at me, dude, I was just kidding!!!!!!!!) > > E-Man Heh, I avoid LA like the plague...I really don't even like going there, even when TD's in town...but I do. As for being captain taxi heh heh, I'll borrow the SC van & we can all pile in and get lost in the city of angels. Has anyone noticed that all of the venues are techno joints? Does this mean that Jerome is going to be lowered out on stage in some giant eggshell & bust out with a portable keyboard like Jan Hammer & do a remix of KW's 'Robots'? Only time can tell... Regards, Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:31 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > PS: just pray there is never a Spice Men group. Ug. There is. They're called The Backstreet Boys. SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 2:37 pm Subject: Sheppard's Bush plea ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 08:45 PM 1/29/98 -0500, you wrote: >First of all, the Shepherd's bush tree went on forever and is still not >complete... All the people in the tree could of had the music at least 6 >months ago if we didn't have to depend on people in the tree. Fellow Dreamers, Could someone who HAS the SB show contact me off-list. I never got a copy and would love one. I will cover postage both ways and offer extra cs for your trouble. Thanks, Mike (if I get it, I'd glady copy it for anyone of us US folks who similarly missed out) From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:53 pm Subject: RE: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Oh I forgot, Plantary Traveler is the new Haslinger -Scored animated video out on DVD and VHS. It's about alien travels to other worlds. Franke is also on it. CD out soon they say.... Chris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 2:00 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: RE: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Here I'll let the TD page explain: Edgar and Jerome also just finished some final editing for a score to the maybe most interesting computer animated images you«ve seen so far. The producer of the very successful »Minds Eye« series, Steven Churchill, introduced TD to the Japanese Video and computer artist, Yoichiro Kawaguchi. He was called by the National Geographic Magazine the »Picasso of computer animation«. The 60 min. video of their collaboration will be called »Luminous Visions« and will be out on Sony Music Videos in late January '98. A soundtrack release is also planned. Neat huh? CHris ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 11:36 AM To: tadream@c... Subject: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 10:10:10 -0500 you said: >Subject: RE: Oasis video >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > >[. . .] If canyon sells well , and with Planetary Travelor and the >forthcoming TD scored animation coming out who knows? Er, I haven't really been following this OASIS thread, so . . . what's 'Planetary Travelor' and this 'forthcoming TD scored animation' you're talking about? -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:00 pm Subject: RE: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >and...what better place to start a thread on....tape smuggling! Let's >hear some stories on how anyone here got recorders into venues or >stories of having your dong grabbed while they searched you for one. Hmmmm... Phish: Two words: Tapers' Section Fish: I had an aftershow pass, so they didn't hassle me. The Who: Stuck in the back of my waistband, then when it was my turn to be searched, I opened up my jacket, they took a look at me, saw what a normal, clean-cut librarian I was and let me go. Now my buddy, he looks like Zlatko's hairdresser, they practically got the rubber gloves out... Not too exciting. . . Now if you want to hear how I got Cuban cigars out of Canada. . . Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10603 Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows Michael Fox Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:06 pm Subject: Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' I apologize starting a couple of off-topic fires here. It won't happen again. If I happen to do so again, feel free to bludgen me to death with Steve Jollife's flute... - jim 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10566 Re: Apology new 5.1 protocol Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 10569 Re: Apology new 5.1 protocol Fri 1/30/1998 3 KB 16574 Apology Anil Sahal Wed 5/19/1999 1 KB 23274 Re: Apology Gibbons, Conrad Fri 7/14/2000 1 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:54 pm Subject: Jim and Pablo S/T ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael A Jean I am typing this in response to Scott's request, but since so few copies are in circulation, I thought some more of you may be interested... Jim and Pablo Der Meteor Time: 43.04 1997 TDI Label, no catalog number given The first in a series of ten CDs...German dialogue with incidental music... Tracks: 1) Haus der Welt I 2.25 2) Ein Traum 2.56 3) Am Hafen 3.11 4) Unheimliches passiert 5.16 5) Der Professor 3.01 6) Das Buch Midrad 4.23 7) In der Bilbliothek 6.09 8) Der Heliograph 2.28 9) Die Helden der Stadt 5.05 10) Im Labor 1.46 11) Haus der Welt II 6.26 Forthcoming Titles???: 'Das Haus der Welt' CD1 Der Meteor CD2 Der Kristallspiegel CD3 Das Verborgene Land 'Das Buch der Koenige' CD4 Die Eiserne Maske CD5 Die Titanic CD6 Atlantis CD7 Im Land der Pharaonen CD8 Das Grosse Labyrinth CD9 Im Feuer der Sonne CD10 Der Eisplanet Krypton MJ From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:01 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: DJS >PS: just pray there is never a Spice Men group. Ug. They were called New Kids on the Block... - jim (OK, I promise to quit...) 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:03 pm Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 14:10:15 EST, you write: << and...what better place to start a thread on....tape smuggling! Let's hear some stories on how anyone here got recorders into venues or stories of having your dong grabbed while they searched you for one. >> ok ill bite...it was 1977 if i remember correctly, and i was at the old capitol center in washington dc to see supertramp on the breakfast in america tour...had 7th row center, got my deck in no problem, all was very cool...show starts and we get to about 30 minutes into the show when i get hit with massive flashlights...'come here u bastard'...i was able to get rid of the tape,(which i still have i believe) and was escorted to the back of the stage, where one of the goons was instructed to get the cops, while i was gonna see the 'head of security'...so we go to this office down in the bowels of the cap center, knock on the door, enter, and suprise!...here's this 50 yr. old, 300 lb guy with a girl sitting on his lap, naked, that couldnt have been more than twelve...i swear she didnt even have breasts yet...i couldnt believe it, neither could the goon with me, and definately not the cop who entered right behind us...in the commotion that ensued, i slowly backed out, and ran the hell outta there...good enough? tom w np: muslimgauze -united states of islam From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 8:26 pm Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' ---------- > From: tadream mailing list > To: tadream@c... > Subject: Re: Castlevania 4 & TD > Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 10:30 AM > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: feldon@p... > > > At 03:17 AM 1/28/98 -0700, you wrote: > >Really-From: Aured Azhallein Rancuel > > > > > >>Interesting! I think some of the C4 music is really good. Especially the > >>song played when the background story is being told while showing the > >>broken headstone of the Count. The delayed organ sequences and strings > >>that are a little mellotron-ish remind me of some of TD's finest moments. > >> Dave 'Bellmont' :-) > > > >When I first heard the opening to 'At Darwin's Motel' the first thing > >that popped into my mind was Castlevania 4, listen those first 5 seconds > >and compare it with the opening song of the first level of C4, if I > >remember correctly the instrument is the same and the pattern of the > >notes is almost identical. I even played that song for a friend who's a > >SNES nut and the first thing he thought of was Castlevania 4 too ;) > > You guys MUST get Castlevania for Sony Playstation. The music is top notch. > Also, if you have a Turbo Graphix with CD (or you are adventuresome and > want to emulate this game on a Pentium) get Dracula X. It's a rare Japanese > import game and the music is amazing. > > Morgan > feldon@p... I played the Playstation version... I wasn't as impressed with the music as much as the other versions... Unfortunately, when they release the PSX Castelvania CD, a freebe item for preorders in the US was a CD of classic Castlevania toons... I guess the music has quite a following!! There is another SNES Castlevania with some cool toons.. it's the same game as the Turbo Graphix CD Dracula X, but obviously without the CD quality music. I heard as far as the game is concerned, the Sega Genesis Castlevania is the one to get--the music quality though, is much to be desired through the old Z80 chip in the Sega. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 29, 1998 10:07 pm Subject: Re: Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' :I apologize starting a couple of off-topic fires here. It :won't happen again. If I happen to do so again, feel free :to bludgen me to death with Steve Jollife's flute... : :- jim heh heh hheh! :-) instead? {{{duck}}} lol From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 29, 1998 10:24 pm Subject: MOST KICKASS tANGERINE dREAM TUNE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' 1.) -= 21st Century Common Man =- hi, For me, that would have to be '21st Century Common Man' off the Tiger CD. There are too many wonderful TD titles to choose from, this one sticks to mind . it's killer. What a combination, Franke' / Haslinger /Froese together in the same group. Especially played here on this semi-surround-sort-of '8 speaker soundsystem' i've rigged up here in the music room. : - ) Certainly makes a great difference. I only wish that they continued this lineup alot while longer... <> this rippin' tune? Seems to me the classical- esque riff might possibly be Haslinger.. Or Chris? hmmmm.. could be either... That guitar-processed-thru-Scholtz Rockman- tone that makes its appearance near the end part may definately well be Edgar. Or could this be one of Jerome's pieces? 8 - ] on now: the hum of my SVGA monitor and my CPU fan Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10594 Re: MOST KICKASS tANGERINE dREAM TUNE DAVENTURA@a... Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB 10617 Re: MOST KICKASS tANGERINE dREAM TUNE new 5.1 protocol Sun 2/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 29, 1998 10:26 pm Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' :> Makes me appreciate this list even more... : :Get even with them: start a flame war as to which one is better, Yanni or John :Tesh. : :8-) LOL, yea! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 29, 1998 10:58 pm Subject: Re: Apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' ::I apologize starting a couple of off-topic fires here. It ::won't happen again. If I happen to do so again, feel free ::to bludgen me to death with Steve Jollife's flute... :: ::- jim heh heh hheh! :-) would you object to using Zamfir's 'panflute' instead? {{{duck}}} lol From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 12:25 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > Thats it! If TD comes, I'm going to LA with Dano and the gang! Let me know! I will fly out there. I was planning to go for my vacation this year anyway and that will cinch it! > Chris > I hear Jerome is going to have a 30' set of Stonehenge lowered from the ceiling and Lil gnomes are gonna dance round it..... That's funny...I also heard that they are going to show off some new amp gear that goes all the up to '11' instead of the usual 10. Hmm. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 12:30 am Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Really-From: TWeibre361@a... > > In a message dated 98-01-30 14:10:15 EST, you write: > > << and...what better place to start a thread on....tape smuggling! Let's > hear some stories on how anyone here got recorders into venues or > stories of having your dong grabbed while they searched you for one. >> > > ok ill bite...it was 1977 if i remember correctly, and i was at the old > capitol center in washington dc to see supertramp on the breakfast in america > tour...had 7th row center, got my deck in no problem, all was very cool...show > starts and we get to about 30 minutes into the show when i get hit with > massive flashlights...'come here u bastard'...i was able to get rid of the > tape,(which i still have i believe) and was escorted to the back of the > stage, where one of the goons was instructed to get the cops, while i was > gonna see the 'head of security'...so we go to this office down in the bowels > of the cap center, knock on the door, enter, and suprise!...here's this 50 yr. > old, 300 lb guy with a girl sitting on his lap, naked, that couldnt have been > more than twelve...i swear she didnt even have breasts yet...i couldnt believe > it, neither could the goon with me, and definately not the cop who entered > right behind us...in the commotion that ensued, i slowly backed out, and ran > the hell outta there...good enough? > > tom w > > np: muslimgauze -united states of islam HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Holy S%$#! I doubt anyone can beat that story....hahaha...if you can I'll give you a free copy of the Tangerine Dream Collection box set...hahahaha!!! Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 11:52 pm Subject: Re: PLANETARY TRAVELOR; Forthcoming TD-Scored Animation ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC@a... Yeah, Chris. This would be neat if it came out on time. It's now the end of January and like everything else promised by TD, it's not out on time. Tom In a message dated 98-01-30 15:00:00 EST, you write: << The 60 min. video of their collaboration will be called »Luminous Visions« and will be out on Sony Music Videos in late January '98. A soundtrack release is also planned. Neat huh? CHris >> From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 12:08 am Subject: Le parc Carpet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: KRAUSENECKS Just today we got Le Parc the carpet line in at the carpet store I work at. TD reaches all corners of the galaxy! Chris Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10589 Re: Le parc Carpet! Greg Heil Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10605 Re: Le parc Carpet! Michael Fox Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 11:24 pm Subject: Live TD '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Ok...we've heard all about those people going to the NYC, DC, and LA shows..anyone (besides me) planning on attending the San Francisco Friday night April 3rd? Ken Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10583 Re: Live TD '98 AOutland@a... Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10588 Re: Live TD '98 Miami? Robert Grabowsky Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10586 Re: Live TD '98 new 5.1 protocol Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10590 Live TD '98 John M. Poer Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 2:41 am Subject: Re: rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Like these poeple have anything to even say....they're still talking > about whether Yanni should have gotten with Linda or if crystals > generate enough energy to inspire a TD album. BTW, don't forget > everyone...Eli IS featured on a John Tesh album hehehehhehe. > > Dano I'm given a credit under 'additional vocoder effect' :-) E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 2:51 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >Really-From: KRAUSENECKS >Thats it! If TD comes, I'm going to LA with Dano and the gang! Let me know! I will fly out >there. I was planning to go for my vacation this year anyway and that will cinch it! >Chris Alright, Chris! If you fly over, you can stay at Dan's! I'll even share my sleeping bag with you on Dan's kitchen floor! Hey, did you ever see 'Doom Generation'? (hahahahahaha) >I hear Jerome is going to have a 30' set of Stonehenge lowered from the ceiling and Lil >gnomes are gonna dance round it..... The *Solid Gold Dancers* will also be there! Rex Smith will ride a Harley onstage during 'Streethawk'!!!!!!!!!! E-Man np: KERRY LIVGREN: ODYSSEY INTO *THE MIND'S EYE* ---------- From: tadream mailing list Sent: Friday, January 30, 1998 2:23 PM To: tadream@c... Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > > > Really-From: 'Andrew J. Rozsa' > > > > >I was just wondering....since TD are (presumably) playing the > > Palace on 4/1 > > >(hope I'm not missing some inside joke with that date), who on this list > > >(in the southwestern region of California) are going to this Los(t) > > >Angel(e)s concert? > > > > I would hafta, if no venue is close to Birmingham, say, Atlanta. > > That way I could kill two birds with one stone, since my dad is > > bitching that I haven't seen him in 3 years. > > Let us know if you're coming down, Andrew! The same goes for you too (two), > Vic R. and Bob G.! We can stack up some Corona and Dos Equis bottles before > going to the show! > (Boy, that'll *really* improve the TD experience, hahahahaha)....how about > Mr. Livsey? > > btw...Dan is 'Mr. Taxi.' He'll pick you guys up from LAX (ow, stop shooting > rubber bands at me, dude, I was just kidding!!!!!!!!) > > E-Man Heh, I avoid LA like the plague...I really don't even like going there, even when TD's in town...but I do. As for being captain taxi heh heh, I'll borrow the SC van & we can all pile in and get lost in the city of angels. Has anyone noticed that all of the venues are techno joints? Does this mean that Jerome is going to be lowered out on stage in some giant eggshell & bust out with a portable keyboard like Jan Hammer & do a remix of KW's 'Robots'? Only time can tell... Regards, Dano ---------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10593 Re: TD Live '98? DAVENTURA@a... Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB 10611 Re: TD Live '98? Hermes Guzman Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10664 Re: TD Live '98? Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10671 Re: TD Live '98? Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB 10822 Re: TD Live '98? Steve McCready Thu 2/5/1998 3 KB 10675 Re: TD Live '98? mike Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:07 am Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: DJS >And if your lucky Vic, Eli & I will take you down to Thousand Palms >where Edgar & Co, frequently hang out, drink Cactus Coolers and ride >bikes in the sky. Maybe you mean 29 Palms? At least there I can get a tatoo with the TD logo and grab some fast food. Thousand Palms sounds like a retirement community... I think going out at night to the Joshua Tree National Monument on a clear night and playing some TD while watching the stars (with a nice lady) would be great! Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:23 am Subject: Re: tape trees ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-29 03:39:05 EST, you write: << ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Really-From: Neal McAuley Just my two cents... I'd much rather have a CD-R of a concert than a tape for the simple reason >> that tapes tend to get hissy after a few plays and CD's last longer. However, beggars can't be choosers and this beggar will be happy to get anything so generously offered. 8-) Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 4:53 pm Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Marcel Engels' >Really-From: Vic Rek > > >First of all, the Shepherd's bush tree went on forever and is still not >complete... All the people in the tree could of had the music at least 6 >months ago if we didn't have to depend on people in the tree. You definitely got a point there, Vic. I also 'work' with the 'system' you have. If someone contacts me, we make a deal and the material is copied etc. Easier. I have some tapes already, so with a tape tree I would get it twice. (or can I cancel a particular tape, I never participated in trees). Marcel From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:41 am Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Vic Rek >you mean 29 Palms? At least there I can get a tatoo with the TD logo > and grab some fast food. Thousand Palms sounds like a retirement community... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Heh heh, it's much more 'happenin' now, Vic! The pseudo-Mayor talked Arco into putting in a convenience store/gas station off the Ramon Road exit some years ago, haha!!! E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:39 am Subject: Re: 30 YEARS OF DREAMING: TANGERINE DREAM 1967-1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-29 08:50:18 EST, you write: << All in all, it's an excellent book that I heartily recommend. Scott >> Where did you find this book already? Has it hit the States somewhere? Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10665 Re: 30 YEARS OF DREAMING: TANGERINE DREAM 1967-19 Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 4:27 am Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 12:05:41 EST, you write:tom w << .they send to their leaves and make their trades...were done...the branch leaders will usually be different so u get to meet new friends! discover new worlds! get new stuff! how many times can u trade with the same person without getting new stuff? >> Agreed. The one person I know to trade with already has everything I had to offer. There would be no incentive for him to continue the relationship unless I could find new stuff for him. I mean, how many blank tape trades is a person willing to put up with in exchange for absolutely wonderful TD music? Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 5:00 am Subject: Re: Live TD '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 19:26:40 EST, you write: << ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Ken Beal Ok...we've heard all about those people going to the NYC, DC, and LA shows..anyone (besides me) planning on attending the San Francisco Friday night April 3rd? >> No, sorry, not me, but is there anyone else on this list here in Florida? Maybe if we got together and shouted loud enough TD might come to Miami at least. Still hoping. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10588 Re: Live TD '98 Miami? Robert Grabowsky Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 5:19 am Subject: Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: thesmitter@j... (Larry E Smith) Hi Steven, Best question I've seen in ages (rating of TD clones)! My 1 to 5 ratings (5 being the best): Waveform - never heard them but would like to hear about them. Waveshape - (4) - I like Sigma and Polychrome a lot. Zyklus is fairly good and Wellenformen is ok Wavestar - (5) - Steven, if you like the Moonwind album, the cd contains an additional 30 minutes. An outstanding cd! One of my top ten of all time. The other 3 are good also. Node - (1) - A HUGE disappointment for me. Sorry Node fans. Radio Massacre International (3) - Haven't heard the new one and didn't care for Knutsford, but the first two cds are good. Red Shift - (5) - Can't wait for the second one. Synco - (3) - Sometimes too poppy, sometimes outstanding. Nightcrawlers - (3) - I've only heard Traveling Backwards. Frank Klare - (4) - I'm adding this guy though he was part of Synco. I love some of his solo work. Some songs are long and hypnotic (and outstanding!) and are probably closer to KS, but still similar to TD. Add Traumklang for that matter to this rating. Air Sculpture - (4) - All three cds I have are very good and I'm looking forward to the next one. In the end, it doesn't bother me that these (and other) bands are TD clones (or close to), it only matters how good the music is. I'm curious about other opinions... Larry Smith > >Steven Feldman -- 33 Brook Street, Apt. 3, Brookline, MA 02146; >INTERNET: >, and BITNET: DREAMS >WORD: >Electronic Dreams, POB 42385, Portland, OR 97242. The Nightcrawlers, >c/o >Peter D. Gulch -- 1493 Greenwood Avenue, Camden, NJ 08103-2929. >PERSONAL >FAVES: Tangerine Dream, Nightcrawlers, Ozrics, Jonn Serrie, Robert >Carty. >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >| 'THE KEEP' SOUNDTRACK CAME OUT IN 1984. THREE TD FANS CAN'T BE >WRONG! | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 7:16 am Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS > > I think going out at night to the Joshua Tree National Monument on a clear > night and playing some TD while watching the stars (with a nice lady) would > be great! I'm hurt Vic...you mean I'm not pretty enough? What tune would you play? Convention of the 24? Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 7:54 am Subject: Re: Live TD '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' :Ok...we've heard all about those people going to the NYC, DC, and LA :shows..anyone (besides me) planning on attending the San Francisco Friday :night April 3rd? : :Ken I might be up that way, mebbe, yeah.. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 7:39 am Subject: Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... Not to be a stickler for details, but the Chevette was better than the Pinto. Just about anything Chevrolet builds is better than the crap Ford pumps out. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong....David Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10591 Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes Greg Heil Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:03 am Subject: Re: Live TD '98 Miami? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky >Really-From: AOutland@a... > No, sorry, not me, but is there anyone else on this list here in Florida? >Maybe if we got together and shouted loud enough TD might come to Miami at >least. Still hoping. Dell > I live in Florida and the only way I would go to Miami is if I brought my 9mm with me. I think we would be better off in Atlanta. THE HIGHLANDER From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:04 am Subject: Re: Le parc Carpet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' ---------- > From: tadream mailing list > To: tadream@c... > Subject: Le parc Carpet! > Date: Friday, January 30, 1998 5:08 PM > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: KRAUSENECKS > > > Just today we got Le Parc the carpet line in at the carpet store I work at. TD reaches all corners of the galaxy! > Chris Carpet that's called 'The Park?' heeheehe :) Greg H. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10605 Re: Le parc Carpet! Michael Fox Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:21 am Subject: Live TD '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'John M. Poer' Since I just got on the list about a week ago, I seem to have missed the message that revealed all the play dates for this tour. Would some kind soul put up the dates for LA and San Francisco. (San Diego ???) Thanks. jp From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:20 am Subject: Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Greg Heil' ---------- > From: tadream mailing list > To: tadream@c... > Subject: Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes > Date: Saturday, January 31, 1998 12:39 AM > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that > says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the > message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. > The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > > Not to be a stickler for details, but the Chevette was better than the Pinto. > Just > about anything Chevrolet builds is better than the crap Ford pumps out. But > that's > just my opinion, I could be wrong....David Hey! I thought we were comparing 'Tournado' with 'Goblin's Club!' Cars, well, an American car at least, usually all have a smillilar, yet short fate. But then the used 82' 300 TD (Turbo Diesel) Mercedes my father owned had close to 400,000 miles on it's original engine. So my analogy could be wrong too... I just find 'Lamb With Radar Eyes' to be too much of a guitar song with popish drumming and percussion. What I liked about track three off 'Encore' was the almost freeform guitar playing backed by altering sequenceing and a simple tempo beat. The music style has changed to a more 'feeling' composition. 'Firetounges' is in the same way related. But I don't understand how a song such as that can start off with a shroud of darkness and it's first and strained notes of melodies is from a piano or harpsichord. Most of us have all those melodies imprinted in our heads (maybe a bit too much) It just seems odd that they force two very different elements into one track.. certainally you could start off with a subtle ambient opening, begin a mellow sequence of piano or harpsi whatevers.. then build it up into an interesting composition. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:55 am Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Francisco Salgado C.' > Really-From: AOutland@a... > > In a message dated 98-01-30 12:05:41 EST, you write:tom w > > << .they send to their leaves and make their > trades...were done...the branch leaders will usually be different so u get > to > meet new friends! discover new worlds! get new stuff! how many times can u > trade with the same person without getting new stuff? > >> > Agreed. The one person I know to trade with already has everything I had > to offer. There would be no incentive for him to continue the relationship > unless I could find new stuff for him. I mean, how many blank tape trades is a > person willing to put up with in exchange for absolutely wonderful TD music? > Dell Hey, there are other taped shows besides TD's. How about a mix trade. I have traded TD for Pink Floyd, Premiatta, Phish ( I don't specially like it) Alan Parsons, Tori Amos Etc. So be creative. --Francisco From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 9:28 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... If Tangerine Dream are playing in Los Angeles anytime this year, I WILL be there. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 10:07 am Subject: Re: MOST KICKASS tANGERINE dREAM TUNE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... on now....the hum of my svga monitor? Better get that checked out.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 10:10 am Subject: Johannes S letters ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: LADY OF THE LIZARDS Hi, I'm trying to track down the folks who wrote to JS a few years ago. If you did, please contact me privately. thanks riley roden/decapolis online since 93, faves, hyperborea,tangram, first risky bus. td 79-86, 75, 89 does it for me. later From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 10:25 am Subject: Re: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... OK, here's my story and I'm sticking with it. It was not a TD show, but nearly as good. Had great tickets to see YES at the Universal Amphitheater. Went to LA the night before, stayed at the Universal Sheraton. Decided to hit the bar in the hotel, met this interesting guy who said he worked on the tour. Started talking about taping the show. He says, 'No sweat, I'll take care of you'. Got to the show the next day, and there he was running the board. To make a long story short, he gave me a tape of the entire performance including the soundcheck. He even got me backstage and I met ALL the musical heroes of my youth. I'll never forget that show. Almost as good as getting Edgar, Jerome, Linda and Zlatko to sign my '92 World Tour poster after the show in my own hometown. Of course, I was wearing my '86 North American Tour Jacket, which is still for sale or trade.....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 1:15 pm Subject: Re: Hatred for AMBIENT MONKEYS on rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Steven Feldman > No, but I'd love to see it -- to see if my great dislike of this > album is as warranted as I suspect it is. > > -- Steven Feldman For your interest: Colin >Newsgroups: > rec.music.newage >For years, Tangerine Dream has been my favorite artists..I own practically >every album or CD they have ever released. It is this reason I feel >inclined to go on record as stating that 'Ambient Monkeys' is not only the >worst TD album/CD ever, but the worst album I've ever heard. This is a >complete, 100 percent consumer ripoff. It was released on their own TDI >label. 13 tracks are listed, however only one track shows up on your CD >player. After paying over $20 for this Austrian import, you don't get to >find out the little surprise that awaits you after you open it up. A small >disclaimer that states, 'this production has originally been used as >pre-concert ambient music during parts of their European Tour 1997'. I >have heard bad bootlegs that have sounded better than this. Worst of all, >each track is segued by this over-bearing, obnoxious jungle sound effect >mixed with the sound of monkeys squaking! I put these guys on a much higher >standard obviously since they are #1 on my list, 'Ambient Monkeys' is >simply Edgar and Jerome's idea of a bad joke on their fans. I feel >betrayed..stay away from this release! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:07 pm Subject: Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Mark Fonda This is how I rate some of the 'TD Clones': Waveform (3) - Virtual World is good... more 90's Contemporary like Apeiron. Making Waves is just ok. Waveshape (4) - I like Sigma and Live 96/97 best... 80's TD. Wavestar (3) - I don't have Moonwind, but Mind Journey is good... Zenith and Out of Time are ok. Node - (3) - I just got Terminus and it is much better than Node (untitled) which I really don't care for much. Radio Massacre International (3) - I like Republic and Frozen North the best... didn't really care for Organ Harvest or Knutsford in May. Red Shift - (5) - Outstanding debut album!! Nightcrawlers - (4) - Traveling Backwards is very good. Air Sculpture - (4) - They get better with each release. Europa is a classic. Impossible Geometries and Attrition System are both good. Others that I consider to be 70's TD Retro: Foreign Spaces (3) - Dark Star is good, UFO Breakfast and Being Creature are ok. Dweller at the Threshold (4) - No Boundary Condition (only release I think) is excellent vintage 70's TD. Spyra, Jiannis and Otarion are also very good 70's TD Clones. Regards, Mark From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Fri Jan 30, 1998 11:24 pm Subject: KW usw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'FREDERIC YARGUI' >'Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf der >Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren >auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren >fahren auf der Autobahn. . .' You seem to forget 'Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm' (Copy & Paste)? Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred Fred PS : Is there a web site against Repetitive Music? If no, I'll create one (what about Phillip Glass?) (NB : just kidding) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10602 Re: KW usw Vincent Goudreault Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB 10614 Re: KW usw AOutland@a... Sun 2/1/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 3:54 pm Subject: Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jens Peschke' Here are my ratings I´d call the following artists 'influenced by Tangerine Dream' rather than TD-clones: Node - (5) - Their debut is incredible, almost scary organic stuff, Terminus is awesome too. Radio Massacre International (3) - 'Republic' is their best (IMO), the 1st CD of Frozen North and the title track of 'Organ Harvest' are excellent. Even their 'Diabolica' and 'Burned &Frozen' CD-Rs have some great parts, well I´m a sequencer nut ;-) Red Shift - (3) - Only the 1st track is worth to be mentioned, Mark´s just playing with his new toys. His new 'Ether' excerpt is a killer, if the new CD will be as good as that excerpt they´ll get a (4) for sure. Nightcrawlers - (2-3) - Traveling Backwards has its moments... AirSculpture - (4) - AS is surely the best live EM act, Europa was released without any overdubs, editing ! Since they do nothing else than improvisations there´s always the risk of desaster, but if it works, it works bloody superb ! Dweller at the Threshold (2) - No Boundary Condition, well with their equipment u can do it way better. Under the Dome (4) - The Heavens - Awesome melodies and sequences Waveshape (2), mmh, 'Wellenformen' is on my trade list, anyone wanna have it ? Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 6:21 pm Subject: Off topic, and then Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Jan 31, 2:39am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes > Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... > > > Not to be a stickler for details, but the Chevette was better than the Pinto. > Just > about anything Chevrolet builds is better than the crap Ford pumps out. But > that's > just my opinion, I could be wrong....David You are. For instance, the 'Mustang', despite its lower power and slightly higher price, is a much better car than the 'Camaro', which is why the Ford car outsells the Chevy by a fair margin. TD content: So far, I have listened to 2 of the 4 CD of the Electronic Orgy boot. (Don't blame me: I am stuck with a leaky roof and all of last week's evening was spent doing damage control. I'll get back to EC as soon as the &%#@ weather allows) and must say how lucky I feel I managed to get this before it went completely sold out. I only wish that had included that one track missing from the 'Ages' CD... C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10609 Re: Off topic, and then Electronic Orgy feldon@p... Sat 1/31/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 6:30 pm Subject: Re: KW usw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Jan 31, 12:24am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: KW usw > Really-From: 'FREDERIC YARGUI' > > > >'Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf > der > >Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren > fahren > >auf der Autobahn, Fahren fahren fahren auf der Autobahn, Fahren > fahren > >fahren auf der Autobahn. . .' > > You seem to forget 'Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm > Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, > Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de France Hmm Hmm Hmm, Tour de > France Hmm Hmm Hmm' (Copy & Paste)? The real funny bit is to think that those 'words' are copyrighted, so that no one may rob them of their creation. Bet then again, there are some Country songs with actually stupid lyrics (and truly ridiculous titles). C.B. Vincent Goudreault online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 1:57 pm Subject: RE: Tape Smuggling-LIVE TD shows ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 03:00 PM 1/30/98 -0500, you wrote: > Not too exciting. . . Now if you want to hear how I got Cuban >cigars out of Canada. . . > > Scott AWRIGHT!! Some *really* useful info!! Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 7:01 pm Subject: TD US Tour '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD Just to put in my $0.02 I'm planning on attending the LA show as well. Should I wear my TD '86 N America Tour Jacket? My fiance wants to pick up the tab for the tickets for her & myself as a gift. It seems that she really likes TD. When she's staying at my place overnight while I'm at work, she's been pulling out a random TD album to play and fall asleep to. Like the D: threads, this has been wonderful to listen to an album that you might not have played in a while. Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10606 Re: TD US Tour '98 Vincent Goudreault Sat 1/31/1998 3 KB 10607 Re: TD US Tour '98 SRiser3600@a... Sat 1/31/1998 2 KB 10616 Re: TD US Tour '98 new 5.1 protocol Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10621 Re: TD US Tour '98 PENFOLD Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 1:59 pm Subject: Re: Le parc Carpet! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox At 01:04 AM 1/31/98 -0700, you wrote: >Carpet that's called 'The Park?' >heeheehe :) Since we take the dog to 'the park' accross the street--no way would I get this carpet!:-) M From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 7:18 pm Subject: Re: TD US Tour '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' On Jan 31, 11:01am, tadream mailing list wrote: > Subject: TD US Tour '98 > Really-From: PENFOLD > > > Just to put in my $0.02 > I'm planning on attending the LA show as well. > Should I wear my TD '86 N America Tour Jacket? > > My fiance wants to pick up the tab for the tickets for her & myself as a > gift. It seems that she really likes TD. When she's staying at my place > overnight while I'm at work, she's been pulling out a random TD album to > play and fall asleep to. Like the D: threads, this has been wonderful to > listen to an album that you might not have played in a while. > Looks like you found a gem, Pete. Treasure her. C.B. Vincent Goudreault (still looking for that perfect lady) online since early 93, TD fan since 77 first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 8:09 pm Subject: Re: TD US Tour '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600@a... Dream head since 73 Fav cds phadra,rubycon really dont care for Tournado... like the old live stuff when it was always new material with hints of old stuff here and there stigo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 10:34 pm Subject: D: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD what's this one single track? It's certainly interesting to listen to. For all the bad things I've heard about this CD, I've always tried to find something nice about almost all of TD's output. To those detractors of this disc I give a description: Just imagine a jungle with all it's flora & fauna we can't see it, but we know it's there somewhere TD has set up for a jam at one of their more unusual venues the sound check is finished it's waiting for show time but wait! some curious primate denizens come down from the trees and start to explore files accessed, samples & sound forms are played Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10648 Re: D: Ambient Monkeys feldon@p... Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 12032 D: Ambient Monkeys Michael A Jean Sun 3/15/1998 2 KB 12047 D: Ambient Monkeys Tom Gerardy Mon 3/16/1998 4 KB 13174 D: Ambient Monkeys Boneheads1 Mon 4/20/1998 4 KB 13195 D: Ambient Monkeys PENFOLD Mon 4/20/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 11:50 pm Subject: Re: Off topic, and then Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 01:21 PM 1/31/98 -0500, you wrote: >Really-From: 'Vincent Goudreault' > >On Jan 31, 2:39am, tadream mailing list wrote: >> Subject: Re: Lamb With The Radar Eyes >> Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... >> >> Not to be a stickler for details, but the Chevette was better than the Pinto. >> Just >> about anything Chevrolet builds is better than the crap Ford pumps out. But >> that's >> just my opinion, I could be wrong....David > >You are. For instance, the 'Mustang', despite its lower power and slightly >higher price, is a much better car than the 'Camaro', which is why the Ford >car outsells the Chevy by a fair margin. Want pics of my 89 Mustang V8 5.0 Red Convertible LX? >TD content: > >So far, I have listened to 2 of the 4 CD of the Electronic Orgy boot. >(Don't blame me: I am stuck with a leaky roof and all of last week's evening >was spent doing damage control. I'll get back to EC as soon as the &%#@ >weather allows) and must say how lucky I feel I managed to get this before >it went completely sold out. > >I only wish that had included that one track missing from the 'Ages' CD... I was surprised to see how much of Electonic Orgy is soundtrack and solo material, albeit rare material. I haven't listened to the whole thing either. It is nice to have all this rare/unavailable stuff. Someone said the sound quality was excellent... I am considering turning over disc 1 to a friend and have him fix the tape hiss and humming and burn a disc of that. But other than that, yes the sound quality is overall nice. There are some obvious vinyl -> CD transfers... > C.B. Vincent Goudreault > online since early 93, TD fan since 77 > first exposure: Stratosfear, fave albums: Rubycon/Ricochet feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 5:59 am Subject: Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Greetings all! Well, I've had a couple of weeks now to fully digest the aural pleasures contained within the 4 discs that comprise this set and I must say that this ranks as *the definitve* TD rare tracks collection to date! It is unparalleled in both it's content and sound quality! Judging from the track listing, this collection is intended to represent only officialy released (in one format or another) rarities, not including radio or promotional edits ('Dr. Destructo' notwithstanding, apparantly since it is longer than the original track with a unique ending.) This is also literally the best sounding LP/CS-CD transfer I've *ever* heard! Yes, some tracks are still recognizable as coming from vinyl; *but*, knowing the limitations of the software available to perform said transfers, any artifacts still remaining are due to unusual defects in the source material and any attempt to remove or compensate for them would result in significant loss of music data (as many of us know from the now vastly inferior boot collections out there!) It cannot be bettered unless and until Edgar decides to release this material himself, IMNSHO! Now, lest anyone think I'm just here to gush, there are a (very) few quibbles I have with the track selection. First, I'll give you all the pertinent printed info that came with the CD, with all misspellings intact: FRONT COVER: Tangerine Dream Electronic Orgy Close cropped photo of an average-sized breast (covered by an 'In-store play only' promo pastie!;)) BACK COVER: Electronic Orgy The Rare Songs Collection 1971-1995 Featuring music performed by Edgar Froese Christopher Franke Peter Baumann Johannes Schmoelling Paul Haslinger Linda Spa Zlatko Perica Jerone Froese Album Mastering By Digital Domain Released under license by Orbiting Soundbits Gmbh 1977 (R)&(C) O.S. Gmbh. Distributed by Telex International SKU # 077777-0025-22 Close cropped photo of (probably) the same model's lower torso and thighs from the right side, with a purple TD Circle logo on her hip. (All this indicates to me the strong likelyhood that it is indeed a German production, as an American would certainly have used a more...*endowed* model, given the preoccupation with them that is prevelant over here! And I'm sure the production date is wrong...) DISC ONE: 1. 1986-Philosophical Conversation (Legend) :22 2. 1971-Oszillator Planet Concert (Osslach Live) 8:00 3. 1972-Ultima Thule (part 1) (7' single) 3.24 4. 1972-Ultima Thule (part 2) (7' single) 4:21 5. 1975-Overture (V, OST for Oedipus Tyrannus) 10:58 6. 1980-Haunted Heights (Baumann) (70-80 Box set) 5:56 7. 1980-Chimes & Chains (Franke) (70-80 Box set) 4:36 8. 1980-Baryll Blue (Froese) (70-80 Box set) 7:04 9. 1980-Monolight (Remix) (70-80 Box set) 3:06 10. 1981-Dr. Destructo (Thief, 12' promo single) 4:14 11. 1981-Confrontation (Craig Safan) (Thief OST) 5:32 12. 1982-Code Name: The Soldier (Film, Main Title) 1:51 13. 1982-Die Russian Kommen (Baumann, C & G Schnitzler) 3:28 14. 1982-The 4:08 To Paris (Berlin Express = Baumann, C & G Schnitzler) 4:08 15. 1982-The Russians Are Coming (Baumann, C & G Schnitzler) 4:43 Running Time-72:16 DISC TWO: 1. 1982-OS 452 (remix) (Froese, Solo 1974-1979) 5:26 2. 1982-PA 701 (remix) (Froese, Solo 1974-1979) 4:42 3. 1982-Tropic Of Capricorn (remix) (Froese, Solo 1974-1979) 4:34 4. 1982-Pizarro And Athuallpa (remix) (Froese, Solo 1974-1979) 4:10 5. 1982-NGC 891 (rerecorded) (Froese, Solo 1974-1979) 4:33 6. 1982-Das Madchen Auf Der Treppe (Tatort OST, 12' Single) 3:43 7. 1982-Flock (Tatort OST, 12' Single) 2:22 8. 1982-Katja (Tatort OST, 12' Single) 2:47 9. 1982-Speed (Tatort OST, 12' Single) 2:29 10. 1982-Daydream (Tatort OST, 7' Single) 4:31 11. 1982-Moorland (Tatort OST, 7' Single) 3:51 12 1983-Fisherman's Morning (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 3:24 13. 1983-Romanian Road (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 2:55 14. 1983-Sailing Mission (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 3:02 15. 1983-Gloria (The Keep, Virgin promo LP) 3:10 16. 1983-The Dream Is Always The Same (R.B. LP, Dream Scene) 2:24 17. 1983-Love On A Real Train (R.B. LP, Train Scene) 2:15 18. 1983-Chased By Guido, The KIller Pimp (R.B. press kit) 3:04 19. 1983-Joel And The Porsche Take The Plunge (R.B. press kit) 1:02 20. 1983-Catching The Egg (R.B. press kit) 0:12 21. 1983-The Return Of The Goodsens (R.B. press kit) 0:58 22. 1983-Love On A Real Train (R.B. press kit) 3:10 23. 1983-Warsaw In The Sun (7' Single) 3:48 Running Time-73:27 DISC THREE 1. 1983-Warsaw In The Sun (part 1) (12' Single) 4:45 2. 1983-Warsaw In The Sun (part 2) (12' Single) 2:58 3. 1985-Streethawk (Radio Remix) (12'Single) 3:02 4. 1986-Prologue (Legend, film Prologue) 1:20 5. 1986-Unicorn Theme (Legend, WDR-Cologne, 'Schwingungen, 2/23/89) 7:02 6. 1986-Horns Of Doom (KLEM anniversary cassette) 5:41 7. 1986-Dolphin Smile (Dolphin Dance, 12' single) 4:55 8. 1986-Brother Or Stranger (City Of Shadows, closing credits) 4:43 9. 1987-Shy People (Original Film Version) 5:17 10. 1987-Shadow Flyer (Canyon Dreams, video version) 7:14 11. 1987-A Time For Hero's (extended) (CD Single) 6:02 12. 1987-A Time For Hero's (single) (CD Single) 4:12 13. 1988-House Of The Rising Sun (Live 1988 tour) 4:32 14. 1989-Vermillion Sand's (Christopher Franke, KLEM cd) 5:33 15. 1989-Alexander Square (CD Single) 6:16 Running Time-73:50 DISC FOUR: 1. 1989-Lost Tale (KLEM cd) 3:25 2. 1991-Octahedron I (Haslinger, Octahedron sampler) 4:45 3. 1991-Octahedron II (Haslinger, Octahedron sampler) 4:05 4. 1991-I Just Want To Rule My Own Life Without You (Instrumental) 3:28 5. 1991-One Night In Medina (Tatort CD single) 3:42 6. 1991-I Just Want To Rule My Own Life Without You (Vocal Version) 3:58 7. 1992-Roaring Of The Bliss (Private Music Of TD) 4:58 8. 1992-Beaver Town (Private Music Of TD) 4:24 9. 1992-Machiko (KORG sampler CD) 2:46 10. 1993-Purple Haze (Dreamtime CD single) 2:59 11. 1993-Dreamtime (vocal version) (Dreamtime CD single) 3:40 12. 1994-Graffitti Street (live) (Three Phase Video) 4:39 13. 1994-Phaedra (live) (Three Phase Video) 3:44 14. 1994-Oriental Haze (live) (Three Phase Video) 5:36 15. 1994-Love On A Real Train (live) (Three Phase Video) 3:18 16. 1994-Story Of The Brave (Turn Of The Tides, promo CD Single) 5:17 17. 1995-Quazar (Italian CDI) 3:43 18 1985-Sound Sampling of 'No Man's Land' (Electronic Soundmaker And Computer Music, promo Cassette) 4:13 19. 1983-The Dream Is Always The Same (Tom Cruise, film Quote) :30 Running Time-73:19 *whew* OK, Highlights for me in order: ALL DISCS: -*FINALLY* having click-, buzz-, rumble- and edit-free copies of these tracks in one convienient package! (Ultima Thule Pt. 2 notwithstanding, as you can hear the off-center rumble.) DISC ONE: -*FINALLY* having 'Oszillator Planet Concert' in *superb* quality! -*FINALLY* being able to crank 'Overture' w/o hearing tick, pops, etc...! -*FINALLY* having the 70-80 material in *superb* quality and *UN-EDITED FORM*! (Unlike *every* other collection that has included them in the past!) DISC TWO: -*FINALLY* having the _Solo:74-79_ remixes on CD! -*FINALLY* having the _Tatort_ material on CD in *superb* quality! _*FINALLY* having (most of) the RB rarities on CD in *superb* quality! DISC THREE: -*FINALLY* having the 'Warsaw in the Sun' sinlges on CD! -*FINALLY* having 'Dolphin Smile' on CD in *superb* quality! -*FINALLY* having 'Brother or Stranger' in *great* quality! (guilty pleasure) -*FINALLY* having the original version of 'Shadow Flyer' on CD! DISC FOUR: -*FINALLY* having _Octahedron_! (1 of 4 original rarities I don't have!) Now, as for the minor quibbles: -Where is 'Hobomarch'? -Where is 'Golgotha and the Circle Closes'? -Where are 'Lana' and 'No Future' from the RBAK? -Where are 'Timesteps' by Chris and 'Galago' by Johannes from KLEM2? -Where is 'Transcendant Smile or Cough' by Paul? -Why include 'Phaedra (live) when it's available on _Tangents_? -*WHY* include Craig Safan's 'Confrontation' in a *TD* collection? I, personally, would have preferred to see all of the above MIA's replace 'Phaedra' and 'Confrontation'. But as I said, this is a very minor quibble. The persons responsible for collecting and producing the material for this project are to be justly praised for an doing an outstanding job! And if word should reach us that they need to make bail, we should all chip in to help! ;) If you've been putting off getting a copy, for whatever reason, I would *strongly* urge you to find one *NOW* before they're all gone! You *WILL NOT* be dissappointed in *ANY* way! From my many and varied sources I have determined that there are likely more copies available than there are people on this list, so finding one should not be too difficult, if you hurry. And the price *most* people are asking is ridiculously low for a collection of this nature! Now, let's talk about what to do for Vol. II... goozer --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10629 Re: Electronic Orgy Sean Montgomery Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10670 Re: Electronic Orgy TangerineC@a... Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10686 Re: Electronic Orgy Mike Livsey Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB 10981 Electronic Orgy Rainer Rutka Tue 2/10/1998 2 KB 11143 Re: Electronic Orgy BDuke25@a... Sun 2/15/1998 2 KB 11147 Electronic Orgy Tdune@a... Sun 2/15/1998 3 KB 11150 Re: Electronic Orgy Francisco Salgado C. Sun 2/15/1998 3 KB 14398 Re: Electronic Orgy Neal McAuley Mon 6/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 5:59 am Subject: Re: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: goozer@a... (Hermes Guzman) Greetings all- *IF* the tour pans out, and *IF* they don't stop by Dallas (Edgar, Jerome; remember me, hint, hint!) then I'll be attending the NY and DC shows. John B. and I (well, mostly John, seeing as he lives there) will probably try to arrange a pre-show soiree in NY for anyone who'll be there. Hey, maybe we could get our Dream Boobs collections signed...8P goozer --------------------------------------------------- 'Those who believe the world is made up of shades of grey have been staring at the line between black & white for so long that their vision has blurred.' --------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 2:26 am Subject: Re: Live TD '98 Miami? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-31 03:08:37 EST, you write: << I live in Florida and the only way I would go to Miami is if I brought my 9mm with me. I think we would be better off in Atlanta. THE HIGHLANDER >> Let's compromise. I don't speak Spanish well enough to go to Miami anyway. How about Tampa? Beautiful city, clean, great Stadium so I hear. But, yes, Atlanta would be better than DC, no offense intended, just mean it's closer to me. 8-) Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10615 Re: Live TD '98 Miami? Robert Grabowsky Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10668 Re: Live TD '98 Miami? Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 2:35 am Subject: Re: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-31 04:06:10 EST, you write: << I mean, how many blank tape trades is a > person willing to put up with in exchange for absolutely wonderful TD music? > Dell Hey, there are other taped shows besides TD's. How about a mix trade. I have traded TD for Pink Floyd, Premiatta, Phish ( I don't specially like it) Alan Parsons, Tori Amos Etc. So be creative. --Francisco >> If I had those shows I would certainly trade them off since the only group I like is TD, period. I've been called narrow-minded and I'll admit that I am. I have tried JMJ: he's ok but like comparing a daisy to a rose. Yes, the daisy is a nice flower, but the ROSE, ahhh. Dell Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10666 Re: Tape Tree Opinion Plumer, Scott Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 2:52 am Subject: Re: KW usw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-01-31 13:34:25 EST, you write: << But then again, there are some Country songs with actually stupid lyrics (and truly ridiculous titles). C.B. Vincent Goudreault >> Awww, Drop Kick Me Jesus Through the Goalposts of Life is one of my favorite country songs! 8-p Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 5:55 am Subject: Re: Live TD '98 Miami? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Robert Grabowsky Tampa would be nice seeing as I live there but it is no cultural Mecca. I also do not think the Inbreed Family of Malcom Glaser now owner of Tampa (ooopppss ..I mean Houlihans) Stadium would be able to appreciate TD. The big thing in the music scene seems to be Rap and Altenative here. >Really-From: AOutland@a... > Let's compromise. I don't speak Spanish well enough to go to Miami >anyway. How about Tampa? Beautiful city, clean, great Stadium so I hear. But, >yes, Atlanta would be better than DC, no offense intended, just mean it's >closer to me. 8-) Dell > From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 6:04 am Subject: Re: TD US Tour '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' :Just to put in my $0.02 :I'm planning on attending the LA show as well. :Should I wear my TD '86 N America Tour Jacket? well, yeah, it might be col to go nekked & stuff.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sat Jan 31, 1998 6:05 am Subject: Re: MOST KICKASS tANGERINE dREAM TUNE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' :on now....the hum of my svga monitor? Better get that checked out.... uhhhhh.... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 8:51 am Subject: Nico & TD together (at last?) I have a CD called June 1, 1974 which has Nico, Eno, John Cale, Mike Oldfield, and Kevin Ayers, but alas NO Tangerine Dream. It was recorded live at the Rainbow Theater in London, so a Nico/Eno tour was going on at the time. Nico drones the Doors' The End. Bryan Colley in Kansas City. I figured that if no one here at the Eno list knows about whetheror not Nico played at a concert on the same bill as Tangerine Dream at the Rheims Cathedral in 1974, nobody would . . . so I'm forwarding the following for your perusal. (I am not currently subscribed to the Enolist, so please address your replies to the Tangerine Dream mailing list Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10620 Re: Nico & TD together (at last?) TWeibre361@a... Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10657 Re: Nico & TD together (at last?) MCINTYRE@p... Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 12:42 am Subject: Macula Transfer On CD! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Richard Bilek Hello Dreamers, sorry if already mentioned but: one of the web's best music shops, Groove Unlimited http://mcs.nl/groove/ announces Froese's album Macula Transfer to be scheduled for release in March 1998! Price is calculated on DEM 45 (german marks) - not low, not high. Ahhhhh - pity that there's only Ferbruary Richard Bilek ---- from Praha/Prague, Mother Of All Cities Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10623 Macula Transfer On CD! Lars R. Jones Sun 2/1/1998 3 KB 10704 Re: Macula Transfer On CD! Kees Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB 10631 Re: Macula Transfer On CD! Steven Feldman Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10882 Re: Macula Transfer On CD! AOutland@a... Sat 2/7/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 4:30 pm Subject: Re: Nico & TD together (at last?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TWeibre361@a... In a message dated 98-02-01 03:52:36 EST, you write: << I figured that if no one here at the Eno list knows about whether or not Nico played at a concert on the same bill as Tangerine Dream at the Rheims Cathedral in 1974, nobody would . . . >> scott sent me a review of this concert from the nytimes, and it has been established that nico played for an hour during the intermission between tds sets...who played with her, if anyone, is unknown...a tape would be welcome... tom w np: loop guru - sus-san-tics ep From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 4:48 pm Subject: Re: TD US Tour '98 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PENFOLD At 22:04 9801.30 -0800, tadream mailing list wrote: >Really-From: 'new 5.1 protocol' > > >>Just to put in my $0.02 >>I'm planning on attending the LA show as well. >>Should I wear my TD '86 N America Tour Jacket? > > >well, yeah, it might be col to go nekked & stuff.... Riiight.....what do you think this is? Black Rock City?* *Black Rock City - the temporary city that exists during the Burning Man Festival (http://www.burningman.com) Pete mailto:penfold@a... 'We throw each piece of equipment three times out of the third floor of our studio complex. If it's still functioning properly, we'll take it on the road. If not, we send it back to Tokyo!...' -- Edgar Froese (founder of Tangerine Dream), on the easy way TD decides on which instruments to take on the road. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 12:17 pm Subject: White Eagle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Michael Fox Walked into the local Sam Goodies music store the other day....found in the bargain bin an SBM copy of WE--price?...$4.95!!! Then the pimply idiot that 'works' there, gives me a $3.00 off coupon!....so I got it for $1.95+tax! Too bad it wasn't Electronic Orgy! Also picked up Tournado--so far, feh...doesn't really move me much. Mike Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10624 Re: White Eagle SRiser3600@a... Sun 2/1/1998 2 KB 14355 White Eagle Aured Azhallein Rancuel Sun 6/7/1998 3 KB 14419 Re: White Eagle joelm@b... Mon 6/8/1998 3 KB 20460 Re: White Eagle Mike Valant Sun 1/23/2000 1 KB 29991 White Eagle rubyconist@y... Sat 11/10/2001 2 KB 30102 Re: White Eagle Armin Theissen Wed 11/14/2001 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 6:14 pm Subject: Macula Transfer On CD! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> >Really-From: Richard Bilek [...] >announces Froese's album Macula Transfer to be >scheduled for release in March 1998! >Price is calculated on DEM 45 (german marks) - not low, not high. -- what do you mean not high??!! that's about $30US! (then there's postage, at least $5 us) so, about $1/minute. What a f-ing rip-off!! it's cheaper to get a pirate cdr! that's even expensive in the UK! thanks for posting the info richard! lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10704 Re: Macula Transfer On CD! Kees Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 6:33 pm Subject: Re: White Eagle ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: SRiser3600@a... I must agree on being disapointed in Tournado. A bit to popie I like the old live dream where you heard all new stuff with hints of old favs. Stigo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 6:37 pm Subject: Electronic Orgy again ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jed Levin A week or two ago I subscribed so I could ask a couple of questions about the 'Electronic Orgy' set, but was rebuffed, due to too much previous discussion of it or something. Well, I'm going to try again, since I received the set shortly afterwards. My questions are: 1) There ARE a few tracks on it that aren't really rare, right? Some of the soundtrack stuff is readily available, isn't it? I know most of it IS rare, just checking. 2) What is 'Tatort?' A soundtrack I guess, but never heard of it. Very nice tracks from that, BTW. 3) After 'Unicorn Theme,' from Legend, the insert says WDR - Cologne, 'Schwingungen,' 2/23/89. What does that mean? Is the theme taken from the Ash Ra Tempel album 'Schwingungen?' 4) About the set in general, it seems to be a relatively low budget b**t release, with color Xeroxed tray cards, no booklet (just paper inserts, etc. Not complaining, as the content seems quite good, but just wondering about the origin of the set. Anyone know who put it together? If anyone cares to answer these questions, thanks! Jed ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jed Levin JKL@w... ------------------------------------------------------------------- Bad Guy: 'Mercy...' Clint: 'I'm fresh out.' (from the movie 'Absolute Power') ------------------------------------------------------------------- From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 6:54 pm Subject: re: Beyond The Horizon...an apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sturminatr@a... >Really-From: DJS >I just wanted to publicly apologize to Brian Kirby for lumping him in >with the statements I had made earlier this week regarding BTH. Brian's >a cool reliable guy & he's not one of the people I was referring to when >I made my statements concerning BTH. Rock on big Bri! >Regards, >Dano Well, at the risk of this turning into a love-in, let me just state that any doubts or difficulties I may have had about Dano have been wiped away by this gesture. Thanks. Back to TD, B. Kirby Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10636 Re: Beyond The Horizon...an apology AOutland@a... Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Affordable Performance Web Hosting ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 23261040@1... 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Thank you. * Clients must prepay the first six months of service to qualify for one time free use of The Central Registry From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 7:36 pm Subject: electronic orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: cosmos@c... hello could anyone tell me (off-line) or here in this digest where i can obtain this 4 cd set of rare tracks. this is what we are waiting for many years now. best wishes from andre. cosmos@c... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Sun Feb 1, 1998 10:04 pm Subject: Re: Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Sean Montgomery > Now, let's talk about what to do for Vol. II... Indeed! A 'Disk Five' could easilly be made with tracks such as 'Hobomarch', 'Timesteps', plus a few others: Lady Greengrass/Love of Mine Sobernost Quinoa Voxel UX (The Easter Island Track) Fort Worth Runway One Chia Maroon Desert Eleanor Rigby Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal Tracks from 'The Man Inside' Track from 'Rumplestiltskin' The 'Lily on the Beach' remixes SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator T O P I X / Mad Dog http://www.topix.com/~sean From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 17:04:26 -0500 (EST) you said: >Subject: Re: Electronic Orgy >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Sean Montgomery > >> Now, let's talk about what to do for Vol. II... Groan. >Indeed! A 'Disk Five' could easilly be made with tracks such as >'Hobomarch', 'Timesteps', plus a few others: 'Hobomarch' is 'Ode to Granny A' from AGES. 'Timesteps' is merely a remix of material from the first BABYLON 5 soundtrack CD. 'Galago' is merely a remix of a track from SONGS--NO WORDS. >Lady Greengrass/Love of Mine Same (iffy) argument as 'Confrontation': it's not TD. >Sobernost Does a non-glitched version of this exist? >Quinoa Too long. >Voxel UX (The Easter Island Track) Sound quality on this varies within the track itself, but then... that might mean that there is no better version in existence. >Fort Worth Runway One >Chia Maroon Desert >Eleanor Rigby >Thief Yang and the Tangram Seal Sigh. >Tracks from 'The Man Inside' >Track from 'Rumplestiltskin' These seem too much like pirates rather than boots. >The 'Lily on the Beach' remixes The 'ZEO Remixes' probably aren't real, if you ask me... unless one allows that what the Orb did to 'Towards the Evening Star' actually qualifies as a remix rather than a re-recording, homage, or retort. ;) >SEAN MONTGOMERY Animator -- Steven Feldman Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10632 Re: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? David Datta Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB 10634 Re: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? Jim Moore Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: Re: Macula Transfer On CD! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 13:14:24 -0500 you said: >Subject: Re: Macula Transfer On CD! >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: Lars R. Jones <105411.3107@c...> > >>Really-From: Richard Bilek >[...] >>announces Froese's album Macula Transfer to be scheduled for release >>in March 1998! >>Price is calculated on DEM 45 (german marks) - not low, not high. > >-- what do you mean not high??!! that's about $30US! [. . .] Waitaminnit. It's being put out on Mario Schonwalder's label, Mannikin, right? I bought my copy of the Nightcrawlers' TRAVELLING BACKWARDS--which is on the Mannikin label--from Eurock for $25 or $28, and that was a double-CD! My suggestion is to pester Eurock and/or Minette and ask them to pick some up for stateside sales. -- Steven Feldman From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 1:16 am Subject: Re: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta : Really-From: Steven Feldman : >The 'Lily on the Beach' remixes : : The 'ZEO Remixes' probably aren't real, if you ask me... unless : one allows that what the Orb did to 'Towards the Evening Star' actually : qualifies as a remix rather than a re-recording, homage, or retort. ;) They are real. Private had them made and they were rejected for release. They were comissioned remixes of Lily tracks. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 1:43 am Subject: Cds for sale ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: patricdonaghy@w... (Patric Donaghy) I have the following cds for sale. All are $6.00 each except the first one which is a td bootleg ...Mystery Tracks 2 with xlnt fidelity. Tracks include all of Heartbreaker,selections from the 70-80 box set etc. I am asking $25.00 for this one. The other cds (* indicates import ) are:*Phaedra,*Exit, The Private Music of TD, Raven,and Enchanting Nature(digipak) by C Franke, cd-5's of Turn Of The Tides, Rockoon, and Dreamtime.Non TD cds include:*Driftin, *Timewaves and *Paridise by Robert Schroder,*Erzatz 1 and 2 by Moebius, *Fruhling by Roedelius,*1987-1990 by Hiroki Okano, Chronolyse by Richard Pinhas, and * Synth Highlights Vol 3 with tracks by Rother,Schmoelling,Cluster etc. Please contact me off list if you are interested. Thanks. PS..I also have an import double cd by Gentle Giant entitled Edge Of Twilight. This remastered package incudes most of the songs from Octopus, Aquiring The Taste, Giant, Three Friends, and The Power And The Glory. I am asking $25.00 for this . Patric Donaghy Printing Impressions Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11245 Cds for sale Patric Donaghy Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB 11266 Re: Cds for sale feldon@p... Sat 2/21/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 1:50 am Subject: RE: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jim Moore > Really-From: Steven Feldman > 'Hobomarch' is 'Ode to Granny A' from AGES. 'Timesteps' is merely > a remix of material from the first BABYLON 5 soundtrack CD. 'Galago' is > merely a remix of a track from SONGS--NO WORDS. Actually, only part of timesteps is from B5. The rest is not. A pretty 'cookin'' tune, in my opinion. - jim 'Moving out... from the City of Love... to the Valley of Reason...' -- Dream Academy: 'The Lession of Love' 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, GA http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:02 am Subject: D:Solo Week 34 - Feb. 2, 1998 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek This week we would like to hear comments on: Klaus Schulze - any releases ---------------------------- Please make subject heading 'D:Schulze' when replying. Also note: The D:Solo list will end in two weeks or until the D:Live group discussion is ready. Also please feel free for the next two weeks to discuss any other solo releases. One that comes to mind is Chris Franke's 'Transformation of Mind'. Anyway, we will still stick with Schulze for about 2 weeks and this will conclude the D:Solo thread. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10752 Re: D:Solo Week 34 - Feb. 2, 1998 PhilPDX@a... Wed 2/4/1998 4 KB 10760 Re: D:Solo Week 34 - Feb. 2, 1998 TWeibre361@a... Wed 2/4/1998 3 KB 10762 Re: D:Solo Week 34 - Feb. 2, 1998 Vic Rek Wed 2/4/1998 3 KB 10777 Re: D:Solo Week 34 - Feb. 2, 1998 TWeibre361@a... Wed 2/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 1:52 am Subject: Re: Beyond The Horizon...an apology ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: AOutland@a... In a message dated 98-02-01 14:06:09 EST, you write: << Well, at the risk of this turning into a love-in, let me just state that any doubts or difficulties I may have had about Dano have been wiped away by this gesture. Thanks. Back to TD, B. Kirby >> Yes, well, but I still haven't gotten my magazine yet. How long does it take the mail to get to Florida? Dell From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:33 am Subject: Re: Oasis video/Rubicon ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hammer1612@a... > It would be much better if we *shot* the Gallagher brothers, so they'll > stop releasing albums (and so *that* won't happen again :-) > > E-Man Just a quick response for the E-man: While I'm not that big of a fan of the eccentric nature of the Gallagher brothers, I personally find their music brilliant and extremely listenable. It is a far cry from TD but I love the raw energy Oasis puts into their sound and music. Their new record is great. Thanks for 'recommending' it... >A similar thing happened to me when I was playing 'Rubycon' >and had the CD case lying on the table. A friend of mine >who is into Indie music asked me if that was the group >'Rubycon'/'Rubicon'? Something like that. I've never heard >of them, but I felt a bit insulted. >Dennis FYI, Dennis--I guarantee you've heard a couple of the guys in Rubicon. They went on to become Night Ranger. Mike From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Thu Jan 1, 1970 4:59 am Subject: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sounds Between Them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Steven Feldman >Date: Sun, 1 Feb 1998 19:16:05 -0600 you said: >Subject: Re: LILY ON THE BEACH ZEO Remixes: Are They Fake? >From: tadream mailing list >Really-From: David Datta > >: Really-From: Steven Feldman > >: >The 'Lily on the Beach' remixes >: >: The 'ZEO Remixes' probably aren't real, if you ask me... unless >: one allows that what the Orb did to 'Towards the Evening Star' actually >: qualifies as a remix rather than a re-recording, homage, or retort. ;) > >They are real. Private had them made and they were rejected for release. >They were comissioned remixes of Lily tracks. What I meant is that 0% of them is TD: there are no passages from TD music, no samples from TD music (no TD music of any kind!), and no involvement by TD themselves. That makes this the same as the Orb's piece-of-shit 'version' of 'Towards the Evening Star,' does it not? -- Steven Feldman + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + | 'Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence' -- Albert Einstein | + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10639 Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sound Vic Rek Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10652 Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sound Colin Knowles Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10655 Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sound David Datta Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10672 Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sound Vic Rek Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:27 am Subject: Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sounds Between Them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Steven Feldman > What I meant is that 0% of them is TD: there are no passages from >TD music, no samples from TD music (no TD music of any kind!), and no >involvement by TD themselves. That makes this the same as the Orb's >piece-of-shit 'version' of 'Towards the Evening Star,' does it not? I actually think the 'Lily on the Beach' re-mixes are good, in the sense that I enjoy listening to them, if that's what counts. Also, I do like The Orb re-mix of 'Towards the Evening Star', even though you can't identify it with the original. Maybe that's why I like those re-mixes, because it's just 'new' music in a sense. So I have to disagree with you on this topic Steven. But that's fine, we'll agree on something else, like Rubycon :-) Vic From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:42 am Subject: Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: PhilPDX@a... In a message dated 98-01-30 12:08:52 EST, you write: << I have Waveshape's first album, SIGMA, and I thought it was a cold, barren TD retread which brought to my mind the outcome of if Kraftwerk did a TD homage. (Why do you like this album, Lars?) I only have Wavestar's first album (on vinyl), MOONWIND, but it is really pretty good, overall: sort of like GREEN DESERT meets STRATOSFEAR meets EXIT. >> Different tastes. I think Sigma is great 80's-like TD-style e-music. I like Waveshape's Zyklus at least as well, if not better. (4 or 5) As for Wavestar, I think Moonwind sounds, for the most part, like a very bad Pink Floyd clone. Zenith is okay. (2) I've only listened to Waveform's Virtual World once or twice, thought the 'computerized' vocals were extremely cheesy. Sounds like a parody of e-music, IMO. (1) Others: RMI and Node: 4+ Redshift: 5 - maybe derivative, not too original, etc. like has been said, but it is a GREAT copy of classic analog, IMO Synco: eh. a 3. By the way, the email that started this thread listed Node as now defunct. This was much discussed previously, that they are only on hiatus, and do plan future releases. Soon, I hope! Phil Derby Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10785 Re: TD Clones: Waveform, Waveshape & Wavestar Gibbons, Conrad Wed 2/4/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 4:50 am Subject: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS This is exactly what I've been waiting for someone to say. The following is a snippet from a current interview with Shreeve. I have to say that Mark says it perfectly. TD's music these days basically reeks and lacks any human component. The only reason to see them live these days is to have a social event with fellow TD pals. 'I remember seeing T/Dream in 1982(the Logos tour)and > they were clearly miming everything,as does Jean-Michel Jarre.This seems > pointless to me-if you don't play ANYTHING live then you are not going to > feel 'tense'-therefore there will be no excitement to the performance(at > Klemdag 1995 I made a few horrible bum notes which 1000 people > heard!!!).And,despite the fact that we use drum/bass backing tape,I had over > 60 patch changes to remember for one gig! > > >The live versions of your tracks have some more 'raw' power in them than > the studio versions, which have a perfect finish on them. How do you go > about composing a song ? You seem to spend a lot of time both on the basic > melody line as well as choice of sounds, samples and rhythms? > > >One of the major problems with most current E/M is that musically it sounds > so bland. Somebody sent me a tape of a recent T/Dream album > and....aaarrgh!!..it sounds like lift music---totally devoid of any emotion > or daring musical ideas.Even the sounds were crap,they just play the same > old presets as everybody else who can buy the same synths.I'm afraid I think > that they are ripping people off...some people buy it only because it has > T/Dream written on it,very sad. Now, isn't it time to stop buying TD just because it's TD? I think so. Regards, Dan np: Thief Of Hearts (Faltermeyer) Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10643 Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream Mike Livsey Mon 2/2/1998 6 KB 10647 Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream DJS Mon 2/2/1998 5 KB 10650 Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10656 Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream David Datta Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 4:50 am Subject: D:List, Addendum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> dreamers In order to have enough time to run the tape trees so that they can be synchronized with the D:Live! discussion list (eg so that the tapes arrive in time to be discussed), it has been decided that Lawry will also run a short D:List, Addendum covering officially released material that has yet to be discussed (or, like oasis, was never discussed fully because it wasn't widely available last march-april) Here's the addendum schedule (Lawry should post weekly reminders on Thursday or Friday of the preceding week to give everyone time to listen to them): (VIc, I hope I got the start date right!) The week of February 15: OST: Oasis (all versions: TDI, Miramar, & Video) Feb. 22 : world tour cd 1997 / das maedchen auf der treppe March 1: Tournado March 8: OST: Jim and Pablo: Der Meteor March 15: Ambient Monkeys March 22: Timesquare Since 'The Keep' has yet to see widespread release, it will be saved for the next d:addendum or the next run of the d:list whichever comes first info on the tape trees will follow shortly lars From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 11:59 am Subject: Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) Hey! How did you find about that Goldtri post since you got tossed from the list!!! (Mike, speaking philosophically since he's in self exile from the same list. Looks like we have mutual snitches forwarding us messages... ;-) ) I agree with Shreeve's sentiments completely. My best TD buys of the 90's have been b**ts of TD stuff from the 70/80's. I usually give a band three consecutive bad releases before I call it quits. With TD, I've relaxed that standard to encompass one pound of useless CDs. I'm getting close to that amount now. I'm hoping that AM will reduce the load a bit, but not much. While I can appreciate that there are many fans who've only discovered TD recently and love the current style, some of us die hard's are horrendously disappointed by the stuff coming out these days. As usual, it's all a matter of personal taste, but I'm on the precipice at this time of being forever consigned to TD's past. Oh yeah, Shreeve. Grab Legion and Red Shift and tell me the guy's opinions are worthless. Shreeve rules!!! (uh, sometimes) On Sun, 01 Feb 1998 20:50:49 -0800, you wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that >says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the >message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. >The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. >------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Really-From: DJS > > >This is exactly what I've been waiting for someone to say. The following >is a snippet from a current interview with Shreeve. I have to say that >Mark says it perfectly. TD's music these days basically reeks and lacks >any human component. The only reason to see them live these days is to >have a social event with fellow TD pals. > >'I remember seeing T/Dream in 1982(the Logos >tour)and >> they were clearly miming everything,as does Jean-Michel Jarre.This seems >> pointless to me-if you don't play ANYTHING live then you are not going to >> feel 'tense'-therefore there will be no excitement to the performance(at >> Klemdag 1995 I made a few horrible bum notes which 1000 people >> heard!!!).And,despite the fact that we use drum/bass backing tape,I had >over >> 60 patch changes to remember for one gig! >> >> >The live versions of your tracks have some more 'raw' power in them than >> the studio versions, which have a perfect finish on them. How do you go >> about composing a song ? You seem to spend a lot of time both on the >basic >> melody line as well as choice of sounds, samples and rhythms? >> >> >One of the major problems with most current E/M is that musically it >sounds >> so bland. Somebody sent me a tape of a recent T/Dream album >> and....aaarrgh!!..it sounds like lift music---totally devoid of any >emotion >> or daring musical ideas.Even the sounds were crap,they just play the same >> old presets as everybody else who can buy the same synths.I'm afraid I >think >> that they are ripping people off...some people buy it only because it has >> T/Dream written on it,very sad. > > >Now, isn't it time to stop buying TD just because it's TD? I think so. > >Regards, > >Dan > >np: Thief Of Hearts (Faltermeyer) -- Mike Livsey mlivsey@n... Grant me the serenity to accept the things I can't change, The courage to change the things I can and The wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they really ticked me off!!! From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 5:03 am Subject: Shreeve on TD... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jim Moore I found that comment by Shreeve humorous in that the first time I heard Shreeve, I thought I was listening to Jarre... - jim 'Moving out... from the City of Love... to the Valley of Reason...' -- Dream Academy: 'The Lession of Love' 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, GA http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10649 Re: Shreeve on TD... Elias Granillo, Jr. Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10659 Re: Shreeve on TD... Jim Moore Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10684 Re: Shreeve on TD... Mike Livsey Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 5:08 am Subject: Dream Mixes II ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Jim Moore Been listening to this one for a week... But I can only find 3 remixes: #1: Twilight Brigade (actually a little more tender feeling than the original!) #3: Towards the eveing star (duh!) #6: Iowa (from the first DM... this shoudl ahve been the original) Does anyone detect other remixes in the other songs? - jim NP: 'Moving out... from the City of Love... to the Valley of Reason...' -- Dream Academy: 'The Lession of Love' 'jimbo@v...' is Jim Moore, Atlanta, GA http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 11039 Re: Dream Mixes II Dennis Nigbur Thu 2/12/1998 4 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 5:54 am Subject: D:LIVE! Tape Trees (proposal) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Lars R. Jones' <105411.3107@c...> Dreamers Here are 19 proposed live tape trees to be synchronized with the D:LIVE! discussion. The planned tape tree schedule is being posted now for three reasons: 1) To clutter up the list for those of you who are uninterested in live material & tape trees or who are more concerned with off-topic non-td discussions ;-) 2) to encourage participation among listees -- even NEWBIES ARE WELCOME; you do NOT need to have anything to trade; if you do, that's icing on the cake. 3) Your master and lo-gen tapes are hereby solicited for tree use, either for the dates listed below and or for different concerts for which you have lo-gen tapes or have a compelling reason for their inclusion. Your comments will also help the select from the various choices below; appropriate filler material will be included by sources if possible. The first tree should start in about 1-3 weeks... the trees will run about every 2-3 weeks and include 2-3 gigs on about 2-4 tapes; this method will allow easier & faster dissemination & it will save everyone about 50% to 75% on postage (over doing 1 tape/tree). Source & branch-level participants will probably have to make tapes or cdrs for no more than 2-3 people. Priorities for organizing these trees are: 1) the complete concert whenever possible 2) concerts with the best material 3) a broad chronological range of material 4) concerts with better sound quality 5) masters and lo-gen tapes If you can't make up your mind about whether to participate, perhaps you should consider the advice of Joel Goodson: 'Sometimes you just have to say `what the fuck'.' This list gives the longest tape length & lowest generation tapes available at the moment: ------------------------------------------------------------ Tree 1 (3c90s): .72/.73? Unknown location - live 35 min. (SB) MC /7- (really unusual, sound effect rich) 11.29.73 Berlin (Deutschlandhalle, RIAS-FM) 'Deutsch Rock -Music portraits von der Inlandscene' 45 min. (FM) MC/7+ (post-Atem, pre-Phaedra; unlike GD) 5.25.73 Les Ponts de Ce 84 min. (Au) MC/8 (correct version; 2nd generation?) 12.13.74 Rheims (Broadcast Interview & Encore) 17 min. (FM) MC/8 Rare Trax 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Tree 2 (2 c90s + c100): 8.18.74 Chichester (Festival Theatre) 45 min. (Au) MC/ (aka 'Festival'; ** does anyone have this or a copy? **) 12.13.74 Rheims (Cathedral) 85 min (Au) 2CD /8 (Live! Improvised!) 4.2.75 London (Royal Albert Hall) 115 min. (FM Trans.) CDR /9 (Coefficient of Aural Expansion 1+2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- tree 3 (2c90s + c100) 8.16.75 Orange (Festival Pop d'Orange, Theatre Antique et Gymnase) 59 min. (Au) MC/7+ (4th generation; Oranges From France; Seekers of Dreams; excellent; a classic show) 9.23.75 Reims (Opera House) 85 min. (Au) MC /8+ (great, real mellow) 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) 100 min (Au) MC/8- 10.16.75 Liverpool (Cathedral) full encore 20 min. (Au) MC/8- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- - tree 4: (2c90s + 1c60) 2.9.76 Brussels (Jansen University) 105 min (Au) MC/8+ (2nd gen? & 3rd gen; the whole concert ; excellent material) 11.22.76 Paris (Palais du Sport) 109 min (Au) MC/ 8+ (1st gen? & 2nd gen.; a superb show!) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- tree 5: (4c90s) 3.31.77 Detroit (Ford Auditorium) 103 min. (Au) MC /7+ (excerpted as Acoustic LSD / Emerald Beyond) 4.4.77 Washington DC (Lisner Auditorium / WGTB-FM) 105 min. 1st gen. (Au) MC /8+ (fantastic; includes 'Monolight'; encores are great!) 4.10.77 Montreal (Place des Arts & CHOM-FM) 109 min. (FM) MC /9- (a must; excerpted on Patrolling Space Borders; Laserium) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- tree 6: (2c90s) 2.19.78 Berlin (Eissporthalle) 135 min. (Au) MC /7 (3rd generation) 2.24.78 Hamburg (Audimax) 45 min. (Au) MC/7 ('Festival') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- tree 7 (c90 + c100) 1.31.80 E. Berlin (Palast der Republik) Afternoon Show 71 min CDR /8 1.31.80 E. Berlin (Palast der Republik) Evening Show 100 min. (Au) MC /9 (White Cloths Ia & IIa; 1st gen? from FM source) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- tree 8: (2c90s + c60) 10.13.80 Brussels (Cirque Royale) 120 min. (Au) MC/8 (a fantastic concert!) Plus *ONE* of these shows: 10.16.80 Hamburg (Congress Center) 110 min. (Au) MC /9- (excellent material!) 11.5.80 Preston (Guild Hall) 116 min. (Au) MC /7 (excerpted as Undulation/ Soundtrack For Fantasy) 11.22.80 Santa Monica/LA (Santa Monica Civic Auditorium) 105 min. (Au) MC/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- tree 9 (2c90s + c60) *TWO* of these shows: 1.26.81 Berlin (Internationales Congress Centrum) 110 min. (Au) MC / 2.2.81 Paris (Bataclan Palace) 105 min (Au) MC/8 (dig proc or 3rd gen) 2.8.81 Florence (Apollo Theatre) 1st show 105 min. (Au) MC/8+ 2.8.81 Florence (Apollo Theatre) 2nd show 110 min. (Au) MC/8+ 10.25.81 Newcastle (City Hall) 110 min. (Au) MC (Spaces & Spheres) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- Tree 10: (c60 + 3c90s) .82 OST: [Codename] The Soldier [c60] VHS HiFi/ 8+ .82 Berlin (Internationales Congres Centrum? or Polygon Studios?) 71 min. (SB) CDR /8 (Logos Type; soundboard-rehearsals / not live) (** there is also an 85 minute tape version) .83 OST: The Keep (unreleased material only; 2CDs + alt ending) .84 OST: Vision Quest / Crazy for You 17 min. (session/demo tape) CDR/ 8 (material made for but not used in film) ------------------------------------------------------------------- tree 11: (4 c90s) 2.22.82 Sydney (Regent Theatre) 120 min (FM) MC/8+ (1st generation) Plus EITHER: 11.5.82 Birmingham (Town Hall) 135min. (Au) 2CDR / 8+ (dig. proc) OR: 11.6.82 London (Dominion) 118 min. (Au) MC /7- (** does someone have a better version?) AND: 11.26.83 Dresden (Hygienemuseum, Kongress Saal) 102 min. (Au) MC /7+ --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- tree 12 (c90 + c100): 3.29.86 Cologne (WDR-FM 'Nachtmusic'; Sendesaal) 103min. (Au) MC / (a great show) 3.31.86 Paris (Olympia) 76 min 2CD /9+ (IMO the best of the Euro '86 concerts; Parisan Dreams 1+2; Teknicon; 3TD+3TDO; Paris Edge) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- tree 13: (4 c90s) 6.8.86 Albuquerque (Kiva Convention Center) 106 min. (Au) MC/7+ Plus *TWO* of these shows: 5.30.86 Vancouver BC (Expo '86 Open Air Theatre) 105 min. (Au) MC /8- (4th gen.; contains unique material not played in other '86 gigs) 6.6.86 Irvine / Laguna Hills (Irvine Meadows Ampitheater) 109 min 2CDR (Sonambulistic Imagery) /7+ 6.21.86 Toronto (Massey Hall) 117 min. (Au) MC/ (a highly rated show) 6.27.86 Providence (Performing Arts Center) 110 min. (Au) MC (1st+2nd gen. composite) /8+ (good show & good recordings) 6.29.86 Washington DC (Warner Theatre) - 2nd source 120 min. (Au) MC / (2nd generation) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- tree 14: (c90 + c100) 8.1.87 Berlin (Reichstag) 138 min CD (Antarktis + 20th Century Seranades) /9+ .87 OST: Canyon Dreams 45 min. (Studio master tape) MC/9 (only unreleased material from demo tape) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- tree 15: (3c90s) 9.9.88 New Haven 110 min. (SB) 2CDs /8+ (Spherical Harmonics 1+2) Plus *ONE* of these shows: 9.7.88 New York (Radio City Music Hall) 113 min. (Au) MC/ (Master) 9.8.88 Washington DC (Kennedy Center) 120 min. (Au) MC/ (Master) 9.18.88 Dallas (Arcadia Theater) 120 min. (Au) MC/ (Master?) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------- tree 16: (3 c90s) 2.20.90 Berlin (Werner-Seelenbinder Halle) 106 min (FM) 2CDRs /8 11.6.90 Bristol (Colston Hall) 110 min. (Au) MC (2nd gen. from digital master) .91 OST: Metropole Berlin 19 min. (TV) MC/ 8+ (no background noise or dialogue) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------- tree 17: (2 c90s) *ONE* of these shows: 10.9.92 New York (The Beacon Theater) 120 min. (Au) MC/ (master) 10.13.92 Washington DC (Lisner Auditorium) 125 min. (Au) MC / (master) 10.17.92 Chicago (Old Vic Theatre) 120 min. (Au) MC/ 11.01.92 Ventura (Ventura Theater) 120 min. (2CDRs) dig. proc. /9 PLUS: 7.12.95 Los Angeles (SIR Theatre) 'Xsess Living Magazine' premiere 45 min. (CDR) dig. proc. MC /9 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------- tree 18: 4c90s *ONE* of these shows: 4.11.97 Bonn (Beethovenhalle) 135 min. (Au) MC/8+ (2nd generation) 4.16.97 Berlin (Hochschule der Kuenste) 150 min. (Au) MC/7+ (2nd gen.; this show has extra encore material) 4.20.97 Amsterdam (Melkweg Max) 135 min. (Au) MC/8+ 1st generation MC from DCC master --> perhaps someone will volunteer the masters for one of these shows? PLUS: -- ONE show from the uk 97 tour (lots of lo gens are floating around) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------- tree 19: (2c90s) 1998 north american tour, 1 date (to be determined) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- Calls for participation will be sent to tadream shortly so that the trees can be organized ASAP, please contact either tom or myself if you have questions, comments, whines, masters, lo-gens, or proposals for other dates, etc. Other than the calls for participation, **further discussion of these tape trees should move off-list.** The calls for participation will require such information from you as: 1) your geographical location (for organizational purposes) 2) at what level you wish to participate (eg source, digital branch, analog branch, leaf) 3) can you provide masters, lo-gen tapes, CD boots, etc for that particular tree? 4) what resources you have (eg: a cdr burner--if so, can you do analog->digital?; DAT cloning; analog dubbing deck or 2 MC decks; or only digital->analog [ie: CD to MC]) ciao lars Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10751 Re: D:LIVE! Tape Trees (proposal) AOutland@a... Wed 2/4/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 7:34 am Subject: Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DJS tadream mailing list wrote: > > > Really-From: mlivsey@n... (Mike Livsey) > > Hey! > > How did you find about that Goldtri post since you got tossed from the > list!!! (Mike, speaking philosophically since he's in self exile from > the same list. Looks like we have mutual snitches forwarding us > messages... ;-) ) Heh, exactly. I'm only actually tossed from the list in the sense that friends filter out useless whining on Elana's behalf & forward me informative things. I actually find it pleasurable to not have to listen to her egotripping & I only get info that is useful or interesting. This list is far and away the better of the two. Besides, now that I found out that Datta helped put the Men Without Hats discography together I have even more respect for this list and it's owner, heh heh. > > I agree with Shreeve's sentiments completely. My best TD buys of the > 90's have been b**ts of TD stuff from the 70/80's. I usually give a > band three consecutive bad releases before I call it quits. Hilarious...those are my standards too. With TD, > I've relaxed that standard to encompass one pound of useless CDs. I'm > getting close to that amount now. I'm hoping that AM will reduce the > load a bit, but not much. I'm already there. I listen before I buy now. Goblin's Puke was the last straw in my book. What utter crap it was. There was nothing there...no melodies or anything (see Shreeve's opinion). I especially agree to the fact that they use the same old shi% sounds & patches that any joe who has the synth can use. All this money & equipment & they produce super crap. I'm looking so much more forward to hearingn the Goldtri CD than ANYTHING TD has released in the past 5 years. > > While I can appreciate that there are many fans who've only discovered > TD recently and love the current style, some of us die hard's are > horrendously disappointed by the stuff coming out these days. As > usual, it's all a matter of personal taste, but I'm on the precipice > at this time of being forever consigned to TD's past. > > Oh yeah, Shreeve. Grab Legion and Red Shift and tell me the guy's > opinions are worthless. > > Shreeve rules!!! (uh, sometimes) I felt Nocturne was a little too commercial but I really think he's almost unsinkable. The guy knows melodies & harmonics, that's for sure. Dano From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 7:37 am Subject: Re: D: Ambient Monkeys ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: feldon@p... At 02:34 PM 1/31/98 -0800, you wrote: >Really-From: PENFOLD > >what's this one single track? >It's certainly interesting to listen to. > >For all the bad things I've heard about this CD, I've always tried to find >something nice about almost all of TD's output. To those detractors of this >disc I give a description: > >Just imagine a jungle with all it's flora & fauna >we can't see it, but we know it's there >somewhere TD has set up for a jam at one of their more unusual venues >the sound check is finished >it's waiting for show time >but wait! >some curious primate denizens come down from the trees and start to explore >files accessed, samples & sound forms are played > I have mentioned my dislike for random sound effects, even so much as expressing upset at track 3 of the 1983 Poland 2 disc set. This track, which most people love, has various sound effects that are out-of-tune and sync and drive me BATTY. I can't imagine what Ambient Monkeys would do to me while I am straining to hear a snippet of White Eagle when I hear the splattering of bird shit hitting a tree limb. Talk about Ambient, huh? feldon@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 9:00 am Subject: Re: Shreeve on TD... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: Jim Moore > > > I found that comment by Shreeve humorous in that the first time > I heard Shreeve, I thought I was listening to Jarre... Ah, you must have caught one of the Bruton Library Discs such as 'Power House,' 'Riding The Edge' or 'Energy Fountain,' each containing original music specifically reworked for film or advert. accompaniment. Once you hear Shreeve's live album, 'Collide' or either of his *staples,* 'Legion' or 'Crash Head,' you won't be finding much to compare to Jarre. Jarre's music is great stuff (esp. 'Oxygene 7-13' and 'M.F.'), but it's smooth, rounded, non-abrasive edges would be very sore after an altercation with Mark's hook-laden, buzzsaw-melodics brand of EM. Anyone who hasn't heard Mark Shreeve hasn't heard 'instrumental *electronic* ROCK.' E-Man np: it should be obvious From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 9:06 am Subject: Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' > Really-From: DJS > > I'm already there. I listen before I buy now. Goblin's Puke was the last > straw in my book. What utter crap it was. There was nothing there...no > melodies or anything (see Shreeve's opinion). I especially agree to the > fact that they use the same old shi% sounds & patches that any joe who > has the synth can use. All this money & equipment & they produce super > crap. I'm looking so much more forward to hearingn the Goldtri CD than ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ For those who aren't subscribed to GoldTri, check out this 2xCD extravaganza when it comes out within 8-10 weeks (it should be hitting our shores in April, right, Jens?)...some familiar and not-so-familiar faces will be contributing tracks to this gem, and it will be a sh*tload of new electronic music priced at a bargain. Nobody should pass this up :-) > ANYTHING TD has released in the past 5 years. I'm in agreement here (except for Oasis, which is way cool). E-Man From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 9:01 am Subject: Off topic: GT 2CD was Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: jpeschke@s... Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >For those who aren't subscribed to GoldTri, check out this 2xCD extravaganza when it comes >out within 8-10 weeks (it should be hitting our shores in April, right, Jens?)... Well our deadline is March,the 21st, when the Alfa Centauri festival will happen. Many of us will meet there having a most excellent party... :) > some familiar and not-so-familiar faces will be contributing tracks to this gem, > and it will be a sh*tload of new electronic music priced at a bargain. > Nobody should pass this up :-) Yep, don´t miss it. As soon as we have more details, a confirmed contrib list, prices, exact dates et all... we (maybe) will offer it here too ;-). (Hey, maybe we´ll include a 'Rubycon in the 90s' remix to sell more copies to all the TD collectors ;) Just kidding !) Watch this space :) Sorry for the non-TD content. Jens From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 10:47 am Subject: Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sounds Between Them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles > Really-From: Vic Rek > > >Really-From: Steven Feldman > > > What I meant is that 0% of them is TD: there are no passages from > >TD music, no samples from TD music (no TD music of any kind!), and no > >involvement by TD themselves. That makes this the same as the Orb's > >piece-of-shit 'version' of 'Towards the Evening Star,' does it not? > > I actually think the 'Lily on the Beach' re-mixes are good, in the sense > that I enjoy listening to them, if that's what counts. Also, I do like The > Orb re-mix of 'Towards the Evening Star', even though you can't identify it How 'available' are they? Hadn't heard about either of these and would like a listen Colin n.p. 'Powerslave' - Iron Maiden From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 12:02 pm Subject: Turn of the Tides ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Colin Knowles Hi all, Thought I'd listen to TotTs over the weekend and see why I didn't like it when I first heard it. Last time the problem was I heard straight after GC. Love GC, but TotTs is *so* different that I just wasn't in the mood for it. Well, I know this will contradict some of my recient posts but I actually found it quite good! Once you get past trying to decode the linner notes, and just listen to the music it works quite well! I can even see connections between the songs and the various parts of the 'story'. Not sure whether I prefer the re-mixes of 'Firetongues' and 'Jungle Journey' or the originals.. the originals fit the album better I suppose (what a supprise!). I think this going to be my favorate instrumental *narrative* album for a while (it would normally be Bo Hanson's 'Lord of the Rings' but this isn't on CD :-( ) Cheerio! Colin Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10673 Re: Turn of the Tides Patric Donaghy Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 20647 Turn of the Tides Todd and Julie Tornow Mon 1/31/2000 1 KB 20651 Re: Turn of the Tides Sean Montgomery Mon 1/31/2000 1 KB 21042 Re: Turn of the Tides Todd Tornow Mon 2/28/2000 2 KB 21057 Re: Turn of the Tides Szatmari, Pal Tue 2/29/2000 2 KB 30148 Turn of the Tides Scott Fri 11/16/2001 2 KB 30149 Re: Turn of the Tides tom807@a... Fri 11/16/2001 2 KB 30150 Re: Turn of the Tides rubyconist@y... Sat 11/17/2001 2 KB 30179 Re: Turn of the Tides Armin Theissen Mon 11/19/2001 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 10:44 am Subject: Tape tree? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: sypower@o... Sorry for being stupid, but could someone explain what a tape tree is? Thanks, Glynn From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 12:47 pm Subject: Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sounds Between Them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta In article <6b3e8k$fee$1@n...> you wrote: : Really-From: Steven Feldman : What I meant is that 0% of them is TD: there are no passages from : TD music, no samples from TD music (no TD music of any kind!), and no : involvement by TD themselves. That makes this the same as the Orb's : piece-of-shit 'version' of 'Towards the Evening Star,' does it not? Not that I disagree about how bad they are. But they do have some snippits in there somewhere. I happen to like the Orb remix. But then, I like the Orb also. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 12:52 pm Subject: Re: Shreeve trashes T. Dream ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: David Datta In article <6b3rg4$lht$1@n...> you wrote: : Really-From: DJS : Besides, now that I found : out that Datta helped put the Men Without Hats discography together I : have even more respect for this list and it's owner, heh heh. Thanks! Actually, I wrote the Hats discography, when I stopped maintaining the hats (and Jarre and Kraftwerk) list(s) Lazlo converted my discographies to his format. All of those were my discographies as well. From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 12:55 pm Subject: RE: Nico & TD together (at last?) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: MCINTYRE@p... >Really-From: 'Bryan Colley' >I have a CD called June 1, 1974 which has Nico, Eno, John Cale, Mike = >Oldfield, and Kevin Ayers, but alas NO Tangerine Dream. It was recorded = >live at the Rainbow Theater in London, so a Nico/Eno tour was going on = >at the time. Nico drones the Doors' The End. Bryan Colley in Kansas = >City. =20 There was no Nico/Eno tour. The June 1, 1974 show was a one-off performance as evidenced in the mistakes in 'Baby's On Fire' and 'Heartbreak Hotel.' John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@p... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 8:16 pm Subject: Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: hk@m... (HK) Hi, well, here I am a little groggy after listening to Jerome Froese's Radio Show last night / this morning. It started at 1:00 am and I have to confess I bailed out at 4:00am and could not bring myself to stay awake until 5:00, but it is all on tape, my friends... First of all, Jerome promised to have a full tracklist of what he played on the tadream homepage shortly, which is great cause it saves me a lot of work. Just look it up there, ok? He stated that some of the tracks were put together for the show at the last moment, some minutes before the show began... There was practically no talk about TD or Jerome's involvement or anything, no interview etc. Jerome only talked about the music he played and only did some 5 minutes wrapup of current TD projects that are in the pipeline. One small sidenote: He mentioned 'Luminous Visions' and stated that to the disappointment of many fans, there will be practically no new TD material used for the soundtrack, but instead music based on Dream Mixes 1 material. That's all he said...sounds like sort of a remix of DM1. The music will be available on a CD as well as the video... Now about the music. Jerome had layed out his show in 4 parts. Fist hour: various of his favourite tracks of drum'n'bass, jungle and similar styles, and some (non-rare) TD. The 3 TD tracks turned out to be 2 tracks from Timesquare DM 2 and also the 1983 remix 12' of Warsaw In The Sun. My opinion on the other material: Not being too familiar with D'n'B and Jungle etc, I have to say I really enjoyed about half of the stuff and found it awesome music, the other half was so-so and one hardcore track (by 'Allied Force') was *extremely* hard to digest for this D'n'B newbie here. Second hour: Jerome's 50-Minute Nonstop Vinyl Turntable Mix of Drum'n'Bass tunes. Again, I suppose for someone into D'n'B it must have been an awesome trip. For me, I found some very nice segments in it, particulary three appended tracks starting around 25 minutes into the mix were really spaced out, but all in all it it got a bit tedious for me... Third hour: The TD rarities, all concentrated in one hour. As far as I recall (I did get very tired at that time and have to relisten to the tape) it contained some of the following: 1) An unreleased early demo version of one of the tracks on Goblins Club (don't shoot me, you know where to find the tracklisting) recorded direct to ADAT in one session at their Vienna studio. (I found this version much better than the official one since it is less 'overloaded') 2) Brighton 1986 live, 10 minute excerpt containing the guitar part of Ride On The Ray (Awesome version!!!!) 3) Brighton 1986 live, another excerpt, based on music from Legend 4) A track called 'Mandala' (I missed the introduction to where and when this came from) Nice song in the style of the Canyon Dreams material. 5) Unicorn Theme, alternate demo version with Susanne Pawletzki on vocals instead of Jon Anderson. This version was turned down by Universal due to her German accent (yes, I can understand that decision). Is this the one that's on Electronic Orgy??? 6) A long live excerpt of Brussels 1997 live containing 'Maedchen On The Stairs' and 'Thief Yang'). AAARRGHHH....Jerome, why did you play this??? It is not rare at all since it sounds exactly like the CD-singles and like Tournado. Some 10 minutes wasted where you could have played some really rare stuff... 7) A really nice track from 1980 (!) recorded 'live in Dresden's Hygiene Museum'????? Maybe I misunderstood because it was getting close to 4:00 and I had to fight hard to stay awake, anyway it sounded clean as a studio recording and was quite good . Fourth Hour: Jerome annouced he would play stuff similar to the first hour, but more ambient and slower in style. I haven't heard it yet, but sounds like it could be interesting... Well, that's all for a first report. You have my email address in case you NEED MORE (hint, hint). Hilmar hkraft@c... Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10660 Re: Jerome's Radio Show Jim Moore Mon 2/2/1998 3 KB 10661 Jerome's Radio Show Hilmar Kraft Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 1:49 pm Subject: Re: Shreeve on TD... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: 'Elias Granillo, Jr.' >> I found that comment by Shreeve humorous in that the first time >> I heard Shreeve, I thought I was listening to Jarre... >Ah, you must have caught one of the Bruton Library Discs such as 'Power >House,' 'Riding The Edge' or 'Energy Fountain,' each containing original >music specifically reworked for film or advert. accompaniment. Once you >hear Shreeve's live album, 'Collide' or either of his *staples,* 'Legion' >or 'Crash Head,' you won't be finding much to compare to Jarre. Actually, it WAS _Collide_... I found some of the songs enjoyable, but I didn't care for a lot of the others... _Nocturne_ didn't do a lot for me, either... Yes, it was electronic rock, but there's a reason that rock bands use guitars, too. I'm sorry, but I just not as taken with Shreeve as everyone else on this list seems to be. - jim 'There's no shame in being a pariah...' -- Marge Simpson jimbo@v... is Jim Moore, Atlanta, Georgia, USA Home Page: http://www2.vivid.net/~jimbo Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10684 Re: Shreeve on TD... Mike Livsey Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Re: Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Jim Moore' >Really-From: hk@m... (HK) >the other half was so-so and >one hardcore track (by 'Allied Force') was *extremely* hard to digest >for this D'n'B newbie here. Drum and Bugle? Oh! Drum and 'Bass'... Wake up, Jim! >5) Unicorn Theme, alternate demo version with Susanne Pawletzki on >vocals instead of Jon Anderson. This version was turned down by >Universal due to her German accent (yes, I can understand that >decision). Is this the one that's on Electronic Orgy??? Does it start out, 'I dreamed a dream, what can it mean?' If so, it's NOT on EO, but it is on the Soundtrax CD-R that came out a couple of years back... >6) A long live excerpt of Brussels 1997 live containing 'Maedchen On >The Stairs' and 'Thief Yang'). AAARRGHHH....Jerome, why did you play >this??? It is not rare at all since it sounds exactly like the >CD-singles and like Tournado Not everyone has these, though... >Well, that's all for a first report. You have my email address in case >you NEED MORE (hint, hint). (hint taken...) - jimbo From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:08 pm Subject: Jerome's Radio Show ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Hilmar Kraft Sorry...the last email was sent from another account. If you want to get in touch with me, please mail to this address! Hilmar hkraft@c... From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:48 pm Subject: The Shreeve Chronicles I can keep silent no more!! All this flak about TD's current output after Mark's comments. Mark is a great composer/musician and a good friend - but I for one disagree that ALL of current TD output is only good for the bin, Admittedly, Turn of The Tides, Optical race, Rockoon were not good - and I didn't buy these cd's - but 220 Volts is pure genius......and I DO like Tournado and Goblins Club......at the end of the day, I went to see them live and after the initial disappointment - looked back at what a good concert it had been. As for the Logos concert - that remains one of my all time favourite concerts - the lighting ws superb - and the music?? well we all generally agree that the music was unsurpassed. - regardless of whether it came off backing tape or not. At the end of the day, does it really matter whether notes are played live or not mimed?? As long as you enjoy the music, and the atmosphere afforded by a concert situation, and the lighting show is good - I really don't see that it makes a difference - what we want to see is our idols up there in real life - and we get that with TD - and not a half a mile away like in the larger venues. Long Live TD and their developing styles!! Ash Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10663 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles DAVENTURA@a... Mon 2/2/1998 2 KB 10688 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles [loooong post] Gabe Yedid Tue 2/3/1998 9 KB 10715 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles Plumer, Scott Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB 10726 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles Elias Granillo, Jr. Tue 2/3/1998 4 KB 10843 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles DJS Fri 2/6/1998 4 KB 10900 Re: The Shreeve Chronicles Lawry Simm Sun 2/8/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 2:58 pm Subject: Re: The Shreeve Chronicles ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: DAVENTURA@a... In a message dated 98-02-02 09:52:11 EST, you write: << but 220 Volts is pure genius..... >> I must agree whole heartedly...And a video to go along with it...Heaven should be so nice....David From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:22 pm Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >Thats it! If TD comes, I'm going to LA with Dano and the gang! Let me know! I will fly out there. I >was planning to go for my vacation this year anyway and that will cinch it! >Chris >I hear Jerome is going to have a 18' set of Stonehenge lowered from the ceiling and Lil gnomes >are gonna dance round it..... Do you know how big they are? The triptychs are 20 feet high! You can stand four men up along them. Four very short men. . . Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:31 pm Subject: RE: 30 YEARS OF DREAMING: TANGERINE DREAM 1967-1997 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' ><< All in all, it's an excellent book that I heartily recommend. > Where did you find this book already? Has it hit the States somewhere? No, I traded him a copy of my book for it. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:35 pm Subject: RE: Tape Tree Opinion ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' ><< .they send to their leaves and make their > trades...were done...the branch leaders will usually be different so u get >to meet new friends! discover new worlds! get new stuff! how many times can u > >trade with the same person without getting new stuff? > > >> > > Agreed. The one person I know to trade with already has > everything I had >to offer. There would be no incentive for him to continue the relationship >unless I could find new stuff for him. I mean, how many blank tape trades is a >person willing to put up with in exchange for absolutely wonderful TD music? Ha ha ha!!! That wouldn't be me, would it?!?!? :-) 2:1 trades (i.e., sending an extra blank as 'payment' for services rendered) is standard practice for equipping newbies. Most tapeheads with enough time are more than willing to do this. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:41 pm Subject: RE: Hatred for AMBIENT MONKEYS on rec.music.newage ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' (edited for brevity) > >simply Edgar and Jerome's idea of a bad joke on their fans. I feel > >betrayed..stay away from this release! > Open arse, insert head. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 3:37 pm Subject: RE: Live TD '98 Miami? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >> No, sorry, not me, but is there anyone else on this list here in >Florida? >>Maybe if we got together and shouted loud enough TD might come to Miami at >>least. Still hoping. Dell > > > > I live in Florida and the only way I would go to Miami >is if I brought my 9mm with me. > I think we would be better off in Atlanta. > Can't be any worse than DC or NYC. Scott From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Tue Feb 3, 1998 3:43 am Subject: LOTB remixes and stuff ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Tom Coppens >'Timesteps' is merelya remix of material from the first BABYLON 5 soundtrack CD. 'Galago' ismerely a remix of a track from SONGS--NO WORDS. > Hmm, I wouldn't call Timesteps 'merely' a remix, it's IMHO much better than the entire Babylon 5 soundtrack. Galago is indeed a remix (of Jester's Nightwatch if i remember correctly) but is very interesting and I actually prefer this version to the original one just some thoughts, Wave ~~~ Tom From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 4:16 pm Subject: Re: Electronic Orgy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: TangerineC@a... In a message dated 98-01-31 20:56:33 EST, you write: << Now, let's talk about what to do for Vol. II... goozer >> How about music from Strange Behavior and some other rare miscellaneous soundtracks they have done? I also noticed on this set that each cd had solo material from each main member of TD except Schmoelling! I'd like to see that on the next set if there is one. Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10686 Re: Electronic Orgy Mike Livsey Tue 2/3/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 4:42 pm Subject: RE: TD Live '98? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: 'Plumer, Scott' >*IF* the tour pans out, and *IF* they don't stop by Dallas (Edgar, Jerome; A quick check of Miramar and TD's web site revealed no new information. It's now less than two months before the shows. It looks like another false alarm. I'm not getting my hopes up. Scott Replies Name/Email Yahoo! ID Date Size 10822 Re: TD Live '98? Steve McCready Thu 2/5/1998 3 KB From: tadream@c... (tadream mailing list) Date: Mon Feb 2, 1998 4:42 pm Subject: Re: ZEO REMIXES & The Orb's TD Remix: No TD Sounds Between Them ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To remove yourself from this list, send a message to majordomo@c... that says: 'unsubscribe tadream' and 'unsubscribe tadream-digest' in the message body. You MUST do this from the address you subscribed with. The List owner does not read this list. Complaining here is useless. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Really-From: Vic Rek >Really-From: Colin Knowles >> I actually think the 'Lily on the Beach' re-mixes are good, in the sense >> that I enjoy listening to them, if that's what counts. Also, I do like The >> Orb re-mix of 'Towards the Evening Star', even though you can't identify it > >How 'available' are they? Hadn't heard about either of these and would like a >listen Lily on the Beach re-mixes are found on the 'Rare Trax 2' CD-R and 'Towards the Evening Star' Orb mix should still be found at better EM music stores. It is a CD single. Vic